How do you know if you're attractive? Do women throw themselves

>>41580013
>How do you know if you're attractive?

You either asking this or not.

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>>41580013
>tfw pic related happens to me regularly

WHY

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>>41580013
Have you ever been kissed?

oh my god I just realized he has cancer...

Get a tinder account, swipe right on everyone and wait to see how many non-bot matches you get.
Alternatively, post your picture online somewhere, maybe body down if you don't feel comfortable showing face, and ask for a rating out of 10. Pretend to be a third party and dont say its you or else people will launch personal attacks for shits and giggles. Just say "rate this body" or "what do you think of this person?". Aggregate the scores to get close to an objective rating on looks. Take this with a grain of salt though because personality will quickly outweigh looks if you're a cunt to be around.

>>41580013
girls will keep eye contact with you
I am a fat guy that used to be attractive

you just know

it sounds cliche but that is it, if you EVER have to ask, you are not, or you're just a bit above average. Sorry to break the bad news to you, buddy

>>41580013
>How do you know if you're attractive?
if you're truly attractive, you wouldn't be worrying so much about the opinions of others
>Do women throw themselves at you?
no, there could be many reasons for this; classic example the fat old rich guy isn't getting bimbos on his dick from being attractive
>ow do I know if they're too shy to do that or how would I know if that's not the case and in fact they're not throwing themselves at me because I'm actually unattractive?
you're overthinking it. if someone seems interesting, then approach them and get to know them as a friend. dont get all pervy on it ASAP, that way there's less fear of rejection; you're just getting to know them as a friend, romantic attraction isn't necessary. and there's a bonus to this as if your personality is attractive, you will overall seem more attractive to them and have a better chance of starting a successful relationship. and if you have a shitty personality that repels people, well then you need to work on yourself being trying to begin a relationship anyways.
tldr; dont go in thristy for the vajayjay, just get to know them as people and see where it goes.

>>41580013
Only way to know is if you post your face on lookism

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Yes, girls come up and talk to you. Pic related is me and I used to have girls coming up to chat me up at parties when I was 8%bf

>>41580320
1/10 bait

>>41580053
Legit took me like 5 minutes to get it

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>>41580427
For real, it's probably because of my hair and chad jaw

>>41580517
Youre about a 6 desu

>>41580054
You know that is not that much accurate case, I mean you need to take good photo of you,
like actually have a good camera, angle, lightning - even a model can look way worse than he does in real life and not slay on tinder

>>41580517
look like heath ledgers ugly step brother

>>41580058
Is this true? Anyone else noticed this?

>>41580517
Shave that head bro

>>41580517
I have some hair to contend with your locks. Are you ready for hair battle because you have just been challenged my tripnigga

>>41580054

This.

OP try the Tinder thing. Make sure to use good pictu of yourself though, because shitty selfies will not get you matches no matter how chad you are.

>>41580517
What the fuck you doing on fit...

>>41580013
Women check you out and random strangers are nice to you even if they don't have to. Random women in public transport or public places might hold eye contact longer than people do normally. Female coworkers start stupid conversations with you all the time.

>>41580058
Can someone please confirm this?

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First thing i got when i moved out of my parents house was a dog. He helped me stay off the suduko route.

Having a loving and supporting dog also helped me with my depression, which in turn made me start going to the gym.

>>41580569
Yes you idiot. Girls staring is 70% of females idea of """being forward""""

>>41580603
God tier dog choice, had a Siberian husky that was goat. Well done sir, I'm proud to call you a fitizen.

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>>41580617
thats not a husky, anon

>>41580063

>hard to get pussy

This anon is correct. Best approach is start thinking of getting the vajayjay as a bonus, not an objective.

>>41580605
fucking this, for example
>yesterday
>at grocery store
>get to register
>there's a cashier and a bagger
>bagger is qt3.14
>make eye contact
>she holds eye contact
>smile after a sec
>she smiles back
>bant with cashier and bagger
>bagger offers to help take bags to car
>sure
>get to car
>get her number

Holding eye contact is as forward as most girls get, m8.

>>41580641
Samoyed

>>41580517
It's because you look like you could make a good gay bff.

>>41580658
I'm good at eye contact. It's the conversation part thats the problem. What kind of banter was it? Like what did you say to her?

>>41580696

Im not the poster of the greentext, but if you lack skills in small talk / bant you must learn and practice it. Everytime you have a chance to make a funny / witty comment to a stranger in public, just do it, no matter if its a she or a he or 20 years old or 70 years old. Just practice bant. Smile at people (e.g to the cashier at the super market) make a funny joke about something thats relevant to the location or otherwise relevan, but keep it light and non-creepy.

>>41580603
why did you post this

are you so desperate to post a picture of yourself?

>>41580696
Just random bullshit based on the context. It wasn't exactly this but something stupid like "They keeping you busy in here today?" then lead in from there, relating to work being stressful or boring, made a joke. I wasn't thinking about it, honestly. I did make sure to talk to both the cashier and bagger, make sure they're both included. Ask questions about it or something they're wearing. With the bagger I asked about her necklace, led into a conversation on the way to the car.

>>41580737
I have 7 threads open and posted it in the wrong one. Are you okay?

I'm >>41580739>>41580658
and completely agreeing with this >>41580735
Keep it light, fun. Treat it like it's no big deal because it's not. The more I think about it the less likely I am to actually just engage with other people.

>>41580013
Attractiveness is, even if jealous people (mostly fat women) said otherwise, objective. It is demonstrated we all found the same face bone structure attractive. They did these with little children (between a few months to 1 year old), they showed them pictures, the people we consider as most attractive people (people like David Gandy) the children looked the longest, in 100% of all cases, little children who has no Idea about society constructs, that proofs that attractiveness is not a matter of taste, it's objective.
So the best way to know if you're attractive is to compare your bone structure with male models, because they are without any doubt objectively attractive.

Rarely girls will hit on you or otherwise give you attention. Generally they will naturally laugh to things you say and aren't too funny, keep a conversation going even if it's one that should rightfully die down etc.

>>41580034

Auto rejection is a thing. If a girl senses that your way above her league she'll purposely ignore you

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>>41580591
let's see it brah

>>41580766

yeah, and the more you do it the more it becomes "automatic" and you will improve in it over time.

i have a friend who is an absolute slayer - he used to talk to ugly and fat chicks to step up his bant game. he felt more comfy talking to less attractive girls but the principle is still the same whether its a 4/10 or a 8/10.

>>41580569
>>41580058
>>41580013
This right here.
I have damn near staring contests with women and you can actually watch their demeanor change from standard eye contact to fuckmeeyes in about 5 seconds. Granted some people just state, but a good bit of it has tension.

The biggest step up for me was not even doubting that I'm attractive. Don't let that shit pass your mind, the second it does push that thought out with something positive.

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>>41580920
>>41580517
>not having wavy locks that rival high tide

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Do I lift or delusional

>>41580517
you look like a woman

>>41580013


Little kids usually stare you for a long period of time and they wont be disgusted by you

>>41580320

1/10 bait>>41580517

FUCKING BAIT

GUYS DO NOT TAKE IT

PSL 1/10

Looks like an incel in that pic

Not sure OP honestly but I know I'm unattractive atm since I question myself and have posted a pic of me twice on /fit/ in those facial threads. Not sure if I have potential once I lose my obese status.

>>41580045
what a dorky little loser

>>41581388

You face can change a lot when you lose weight. I went from an 3/10 unattractive moonface to a 8-9/10 just by losing weight, getting a good haircut and growing a decnt beard. Have women approach me now and sleep with me just because of my looks. It's insane how much difference losing 110 lbs can make.

>>41580970
Non-attractive girls are just disgusting for me, how can I practice with someone I feel not comfortable even looking at?

>>41581472
>It's insane how much difference losing 110 lbs can make

Nah, losing the weight of a child is bound to make a big difference, I don't see how you're surprised by this.

>>41581472
you just can't, where is the pic?

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>>41581472
Really anon? Currently I'm 261lbs at the moment, will I lose all this disgusting fat face and get gains?

>>41581555
Probably won't fix your irish nose

>>41581555
yes
stop shampooing every day too

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>>41581555
YOU ARE A DISGUSTING FAT BODY GOMER ANON

>>41581567
Na I don't mind about my buster nose, come from an irish line so good eye there.
>>41581568
Every two days? Don't want to be a grease ball.

>>41580058
Well shit

Call me chad-autismcock. Eye contact with anyone but my grill is weird.

>>41580053
damn bro ive been looking at wojacks since i saw that meme like 6 years ago

>>41581589
Your hair will balance itself out, stop.

>>41581597
Mine didn't. I didn't use shampoo for two weeks but my hair was always looking as greasy shit every morning

>>41581627
Probably because you eat like shit.
There is no reason otherwise after that long.

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>>41581597
Thanks mate I'll stop, I will wash it every 3 days and see how much it improves, when will I notice improvements?

>>41580013
you fuck (hot) women regularly. Attraction is more than just looks.

>>41581654
When you notice improvements? I don't know man everyone is different, if you're eating healthy and drinking a lot of water you will see it start to maintain a healthy level of shine. Your hair needs it's natural oils to keep from breaking, so even if it looks a lil greasy that's just normal.
Super dry, shiny hair is a meme perpetuated by ignorant beauty standards.

>>41581678
What about to do with sweating though? It's hot here at the moment so I'm constantly sweating, do I wash my hair everyday with shampoo then or just let the water run through my hair and that's it?

7's and 8's throw themselves at me because I look gud
9's and 10's won't cough in my direction because not enough social status/trust fund

>>41581552

Not ever going to post a pic on 4chan. I may be overrating myself but I'll put it this way. I started the year after I lost all the weight as a 22 year old virgin. By the end of the year I'd slept with 13 women, had a threesome (not the shitty kind), slept with a stripper and a model. Some of us really can make it. In my case I had really good genetics it was just hidden under a massive layer of fat that seemed to all congregate around my face.

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I got invited to participate in a beauty contest today

Apparently there was a scout dude at my church some day who saw me and said to my mom that I should enter the contest

Does that mean I look good? I'm not quite /fit/ yet (still a bit skinny) but I'm pretty tall (6'5") and I think my face is a 5

I have basically no self esteem so I was very surprised by that

>>41580058
I literally can't make eye contact too people so I would never know

>>41581813
so weird, I'm the opposite.

I can stare anyone down all day and it doesn't really bother me, I am never the one to look away first and only mimic to make them feel at ease half the time.

But I'm pretty autismo in most other ways

>>41581827
dude, too much eye contact is just as autismo as not being to maintain any

>>41581827

Damn.If I look at someone and they for dinner reason look back at me I instantly look away

I wish I wasn't so beta

>>41581844
for some reason*

fucking autocorrect

>be fat
>friends insist I'm good looking despite being fat
>tell me girls do check me out
>that the girls that come up to me don't hide their interest
>do the tinder thing
>club hoes want me
>only hotties want me


Feels nice, I started losing weight because of that realization

>>41580735
>make a funny joke about something thats relevant to the location or otherwise relevan,

Nothing is relevant to a cashier. They're doing exactly the same job in every single location

>>41582118
Nothing ever really...CHANGES right?
HAHAHAHAHA

>>41581555

Hope you turn out liking the way you look. I was definitely an outlier as I had a good bone structure and my body wanted to store half my fat in my face.

>>41582244
I hope so as well, I've never seen myself slim as an adult so heres hoping that I have a good face underneath.

>>41580696
just ask them their opinion on the fact that the jews are manipulating public opinion to be more and more anti-white and bro brown/black/muslim/etc everyday which combined with growing anti islamic sentiments in europe due to the constant stream of crime and attacks perpetrated by muslim refugees has put us on a fast track towards a race war which will envelop the whole world while Israel remains untouched due to their connections and money then while everyone is weakened they stab all their allies in the back and complete the greater Israel plan on an even more massive scale turning their Zionist ethno state in the one world government as Jews now become the majority people on the planet


if she says anything positive then she's not the one m8

>>41582177
I bet you get all the pussy

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>>41580561
jesus dude

>>41580597
I get random women talking to me about dumb shit all the time. I'm kind of a dick and totally not interested in the gas station clerks day, so I always blow them off. Can also say, asking for favors usually elicits a response, and I'm probably just an average 6/7 out of 10. Maybe. 6'4 though, and not obese...

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>>41580920

>>41582279
>when the bant goes from light to medium

I would only recommend this during the first date.

>>41580599
dont overthink everyday things anon. im not attractive (i know i could do a lot better, but currently i have outstyled glasses and im overweight) but i get a lot of girls looking at me and holding eye-contact i think (no, i dont stink you cunts)
i think its a lot more about your personal vibe than attractiveness. if you look friendly, interesting or seem to have a strong persona, emotions on your face, unique style, girls gonna look at you. these threads are all about neckbeard fantasies about girls eyefucking them. good confidence booster i guess but dont read too much into it.

>>41582286
You must be a terrible gambler

>>41581844
Heres a fun exercise to do when outside:
Stare down people who get near you when walking
Keep a unwavering eye contact untill the person pass you, no frown, no smile, just look at their eyes like its a dare
Avoid staring at hobbos, ghetto niggers and children tho

>>41582118
>nothing is relevant to a cashier
I can't tell if you're serious or not. Every location is different, every day is different, every person is different. Don't comment on the "act" of cashiering unless there's a good reason, just be a person talking to another person.

>no matter how hard you workout your face will still be ugly

its not fair, why is there no exercise to make me better looking? i would fucking do it in a heartbeat no matter how hard it was

>>41582279
alex jones pls go

>>41582537
>it's not fair, why is there no exercise to make me better looking?
Try bulking up your bank account, make money in multiple countries. Gotta confuse the currencies, right babe?

>>41582537
Low bf% makes your face more masculine and prettier as long you are not going skelly mode
Read the facial care threads you faggot, at least get all bases covered

>>41581978

post pic, interesting to see attractive fat people

>>41580034
because you are a poorfag who rides a bus

>>41581842
which is why I mimic people and look away after they do as I said

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>>41582817

>>41582406
>Every location is different

Nope

>every day is different,

I'm not going to ask a fucking cashier how their day went

>every person is different.

I have no way to know a cashiers personality because I'm just saying "hi" and "thanks" to them

>>41582901
It must be nice to be such an egocentric piece of shit.

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If you look like me, you're probably good (I'm a 10/10)

>>41582912

I'm not

If I asked how their day went they would say just "like a normal day"

That's what I would answer

>>41582401

Seems like a good way to get a the cops called on you

>>41580013
Women look at you.
When you make eye contact they look away coyly rather than out of maintaining civil inattention.
When presented with the opportunity they may go out of their to have a conversation.

However, for the most part it's an indescribable and subjective vibe inperceivable to autists such as yourself.

>>41582401
holy shit. i had to laugh so hard, ahaha

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>>41582917
LMAO

if you're 10/10 I'm 11/10, get on my level nigger

> Do women throw themselves at you?
This simply doesn't happen unless you have Hollywood-tier good looks or is very wealthy while socializing with working class women.
I don't understand where do you retards take these false ideas from, movies, the internet, music?

Attractive guys must play the game just like any of you, they might have an easier time approaching because of their looks but they still need to have game, they still need charisma, personality, a good sense of humor and intelligence if they want to be constantly picking up and slaying attractive women who have other options. The only kind of women worth investing effort into.

Unless you look like Paul Newman in his youth, prime Brad Pitt, James Norton or David Gandy women will NOT simply "throw" themselves at you based on your looks alone. At least not the kind of women worth picking up.
You have to WORK.

>>41580058
>girls will keep eye contact with you

I caught a chick mirin me at a stop light then I hit my vaporizer like a fag and that was pretty much the end of that

>>41580013
They will complement you, laugh at stupid shit you say, make eye contact with you. Stare at you, smile at you, make idle conversation with you. All around more positive interactions.

t. Ex fatty on his way to bearmode.

The change in how well most people treat you is astonishing. It's like I'm wearing a mask and the sad bullied fatty is still there.

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>>41580603

>tfw when my shitty living situation will not allow me to have a doggo

>>41582929
If you answer like that you're an egocentric piece of shit. If you don't realize this behavior is severely antisocial, you're disassociative or autistic. Work on that.

>>41582997

You should give classes on confidence since you are ugly as fuck and some how don't see it lol

>>41582917

You look like a cuck.

Why do /fit/izens like to overrate themselves? You guys are disgusting. At least lookism incel fags can rate better than you gymcels.

>>41583061
>tfw my dog is living with my mum right now halfway across the country

I legit save up my spare money and spend it on a plane ticket to fly over and see him every week

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>>41580889
This. Both men and women do it. Kinda sad.

>>41580013
Because you are asking this you probably aren't attractive

>>41582936
As long you dont turn your head to look at them is all good mane, otherwise you are gonna get shanked and maced real fast
Make a dare to yourself, when you catch a stranger looking at you, make the first person to bitch down from locking eyes lose
Then try your best to not lose even more at life

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>>41580053
holy shit

>>41582917
you have a nigger nose. you probably subconsciously only attract part-time coalburners

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Is there any hope for me if I drop my bf%? Am I beyond salvation? 6'1", gone from 235 to 211 in like a month and some change. Be brutally honest.

>>41584097
>part time coalburners


kek

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>>41580517
>this is what women want, why even lift.

>>41582917
Filthy Serbian posting from his moms house

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>>41580013
if you have to ask, you aren't. Also, even if you think you are, 90% chance that you aren't. Lmao.

>>41580889
tfw a girl in the office is mirin me every single day
get rejected rudely when i approach her directly

yes, i'm attractive but also autistic

>>41582886
still wouldn't

>>41580320
>>41580517
>good eye area
>good lips and chin
>looks to be quite tall
>no buccal fat
>decent zygos

You're clueless if you think this is not attractive. This guy should get a hair transplant though if he really wants to go into the 7-8/10 range.

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>>41584616
>the day a gymcel learns that face matters infinitely more than muscles

>>41584722
And this guy is what is considered attractive?

>>41584748
>good
>good

Despite trying to quantify beauty and failing fantastically you're right. He's decently attractive with his biggest flaws being the hairline combined with the long hair, the pale color and blonde hair, and the general thinness-gauntness.

He's not instantly get every girl wet kind of goodlooking but he's decently so and would slay with a decent personality.

>>41584783
Yes. Chris Carmack is pretty much the Chad prototype.

>>41580013

What the fuck is wrong with y`all? Y`all are beta faggots, take your shit to /r9k/ or /b/ or whatever place that is more relevant to your "feels", you insecure beta shits

>>41584797
Eh

>>41580013
You know you're attractive when you know you're attractive

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>>41584811

>>41580045 So handsome that his beauty killed people

>>41583098

You are a good person

>>41583098
maybe, just maybe, you could save the plane ticket cash to upgrade your living arrangements into something that allows your dog to stay.

>>41584224
brutal honesty:
>nothing is gonna fix that button nose except surgery
>fat chin, small mouth
>negative cantal tilt, weak eyebrows
positives:
>looks like you got some nice cheek and jaw bones hiding under that face fat
>thick neck, robust male look overall
Keep at it anon, things will definitely keep improving fro you as that bf% drops

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>>41584224
you'll be fine when you stop looking like a pampered 15 year old who spends all his spare time tearing wings off flies and chasing ants with a magnifying glass but is still mom's favorite.
10/10 neck genetics tho

>>41584969

Button noses are cute (strong no homo)

I'm the ugliest person at walmart. I see people avoiding the things they want to buy just to keep away from me.

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>>41582584
I miss this meme

>>41585228

im not the hottest guy alive by any means but walking around walmart usually makes me feel like a 10/10

>girls have been hitting one me since my teenage years
>my friends honestly admit I'm good looking
>can't fucking look at myself without feeling down afterwards, can't stop feeling utterly inferior and hit on girls, can't stop feeling envy towards other people who do better in life than I

>>41580013
She might just have been intimidated. Sometimes when a girl is insecure they will avoid attractive men.

>>41585274
I do the same with women, I'd probably sit next to this greasy creep than a hot Wojakette

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>friends admire you
>gf says you're hot often
>parents admire you
>siblings admire you
>etc etc
= you're hot

i was born hot i guess, i have always been 'mired by people around me.

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>>41580013

>>41585300

Why the unrelated pic tho?

Also

>relatives being nice

wow really a huge sign of attractiveness

>>41585305
Sometimes I wonder how long it'll be until facebook and twitter ruin Wojak like how they did to Pepe.

>>41582886
fucking gross man

>>41580013
>>41580013
Women, particularly average women, will literally tell you to your face how hot you are. I was a lifeguard once and one of my female coworkers once came up to me and asked me if she could grab my butt. I let her and then she said, "you're the hottest guy here" or something to that effect and giggled. Strangers obviously won't do that which is why it's essential to get involved socially if you want to get laid.

Also try smiling slightly at women you don't know and holding eye contact

>>41580013
>How do you know if you're attractive?
If you have to ask, you're not
Or just post your picture on /adv/ along with
>am i attractive enough /adv/?

>>41585300
omg is that leanice44 from bodyspace!?

>>41584728
>get rejected rudely when i approach her directly
Sorry to break it to ya buddy but she wasn't mirin

>>41585463
no need to be sorry since you're wrong anyway

I feel sick every time I look in a reflection.

Why is it that sometimes when i see myself i think i am a hot shit, but the other time i think i look like a regular shit ?

>>41584728
Assuming you're not just delusional, one of the great paradoxes is asserting value.
If you're cold towards a girl (or anyone), then there's a natural psychological desire from them to want to demonstrate value to you to prove you should like them. But as soon as you acknowledge them and stop acting coldly (by say asking them out), then that desire disappears because you've just lowered yourself to their level.

One way to potentially get around this is to carry on acting cold in your interactions and acting even colder to other people in front of them (so that they think they're breaking down your shell and are special). But it has to be done slowly.
This isn't dating advice btw, just something to ponder

>>41580013
only unattractive girls throw themselves at me

>>41585404
Wojak will be the normie face of cancer sufferers

>>41585929
>Assuming you're not just delusional, one of the great paradoxes is asserting value.
>If you're cold towards a girl (or anyone), then there's a natural psychological desire from them to want to demonstrate value to you to prove you should like them. But as soon as you acknowledge them and stop acting coldly (by say asking them out), then that desire disappears because you've just lowered yourself to their level.
>
>One way to potentially get around this is to carry on acting cold in your interactions and acting even colder to other people in front of them (so that they think they're breaking down your shell and are special). But it has to be done slowly.
>This isn't dating advice btw, just something to ponder

this only applies to average and ugly looking guy
game for attractive guy like me is different, something you would never know or need to know

and i'm not in the US where every girl is practically a slut, i'm in asian country where most girls are still virgin before marriage

now, why are you seeking approval by giving game advice as if you know my whole situation based on 3 sentences?

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Gonna post this cause i am happy af
>Be me
>Really fit ( 2.5 years if lifting)and it shows with tshirt on
>Friday night and walking in the streets
>See this super beautiful girl like really 100% qt3.14
>Look at her eyes
>She looks at me
>we lock
>"Why she is still looking at me. wtf ?"
>She starts to smile
>I smile back
>She passes me with her friends
>"whaaat ? What was that ?"
>Then i realised what happened

This never happened to me before like this

It might be just another game of gods to mock me like they usually do

24 yo, 186 lbs 6'1 and virgin

i was thinking that i was unatractive but this little thing changed my mind again.

She was looking like pic related and i cant stop thinking about this today

>>41586144
if this only happen once in your life then i wouldn't put that much thought into it
are women always mirin you in general?
but if they do, you must've realized before that you're attractive right?

What should I do if I am 6'6" and not sure if attractive

>>41585980
I sometimes forget that intensely autistic people browse this board too. I don't know how I manage that though

>>41586144
this happens to me regulary youa re nothing special

>>41586205
continue reading game field report and never approach in real life, faggot
this thread is for attractive people only

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>>41585944
this is how i know im somewhat attractive but on the lower end, where turds feel confident enough to ask me out

>>41580569
I lost over 100 lbs and random qt3.14s make eyecontact when passing now so anecdotally seems legit to me.

>>41586190
since i got fit i see girls mirin me very often yes but not with a smile and with long eyes lock. This was something else.

>>41582998
Well this isnt true, its about giving women acceptable openings- im actually good looking and tall and i get a lot of looks but no approaches on the street unlike the studs posting here- instead you put me in an acceptable setting like a club, and poof - women are trying to talk to me

for attractive people, take note:
being good looking is the highest value there is, you don't have to demonstrate value by negging, acting cold, or any other retarded pua tactic designed for 7/10 and below
negging when you already have the upper hand makes you a jerk which is an instant turn off for girls

people that says otherwise most likely ugly and only reading theory that works for ugly and average guy, they can't comprehend the game of attractive people since they've never been attractive themselves ever in their life

>>41580013
Would u rather sit next to an average girl or a model tier girl.

I wouldn't feel as comfortable near a model tier girl if you ask me

>>41580320
ayy

>>41586228
Yeah I kinda noticed the same thing happening to me but I was asking specifically about talking to a woman I already know. Can I know whether she likes me from her staring in my eyes when we talk?

>how do you know that you're attractive?

It depends on where you live and shit. In third world countries, people are attracted to fat people because it insinuates that you're rich, and many see it as being healthy; just because most people there have problems with putting a single meal on the table for themselves.

However, if you want to know what is viewed as "attractive" in a country like the United States, then you should read stuff on Wikipedia like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States.

If you research a little bit about eugenics regarding your nation, then you'd get a fair understanding of what was viewed as being the epitome of attractiveness in a certain time period. Even though the public's views regarding eugenics has changed, most of the views regarding what is and what isn't attractive hasn't changed much in regards to your stature; although, much has changed in regards to race & gender.

If you read that article, then you can easily point out what has and hasn't stuck in regards to attractiveness.

Ie. Many Americans will subconsciously view a male who is of ~6' tall, athletic build, and conservatively dressed as being part of a higher socioeconomic status. Even though the guy could be dirt ass fucking broke.

>>41586305
>In third world countries, people are attracted to fat people because it insinuates that you're rich

Lol what ? Are you sure you are not mistaking it with 16th century ?

>>41580013
It's all about the eyes. Your eyes show happiness, confidence and strength.

A girl can take a quick glance at your eyes and decide if you're happy or uncomfortable. The same way guys can quickly decide if the girl has great tits and ass or not.

It's hard to tell the difference unless you've gone from unattractive to attractive (or somehow vice versa) but the tells are:

>Everyone is just nicer, except insecure men who will try to banter at you awkwardly
>People tend to trust you more easily
>Women don't throw themselves at you but they're much kinder
>Average girls (or girls with self esteem issues) will spill spaghetti at you, say awkward things, giggle sharply, etc
>women that you're "just friends" with will engage you in flirtatious banter, trust you with lewd secrets, etc

>>41586199
join a basketball team with the other lanklets that made it past the 6'5" lanklet cutoff

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>>41580058
This. The few girls I've been with I notice a few things. They keep eye contact and they actively try to engage you. When I say actively, they are turned and thier body is facing you while you talk. No checking their phone or anything, just face to face, engaging conversation.


Sadly I'm a huge autist so this doesn't work out for me alot and I fuck up.

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hey, sup?

>>41586368
shave your face pubes

>>41583086
Not him but how do I work on it?

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>>41586430
no

>>41586305
However, the main sticking point still applies. In America, security is the main source of attractiveness.

What do I mean by security? I mean being able to provide and protect for a future family. Even though our social standards have changed in regards to the 1960's nuclear family (i.e. The man works at a modest job, the woman cooks, cleans, & takes care of the kids, and they own a home with a white picket fence), the views of attraction governing this hasn't.

The root of it all: independence; it's the American way of life. So you're a 5'4" tall guy with what you view as an ugly face? Well don't fucking worry about it. Just focus on gaining an athletic build, dressing in a sharp and conservative style, placing yourself into a position where you can practice public speaking, having a well paying job that you love where you work your ass off at and have goals set on climbing the company ladder/starting your own business, hang out with male friends who are socially active, physically attractive and are goal-oriented, and strive to be the first out of your graduating class in owning shit. Own a home, own a nice car, and own as much nice shit that appreciates in value as you possible can. On top of it all, make time for a hobby and wear that shit on your shoulder. Post you going to events pertaining to your hobbies on social media and shit.

Women will always seek a provider who exudes self-confidence. Need an example? Look up Gabe Newell's wife.

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>>41586329
https://youtu.be/zEN4hcZutO0?t=154
Watch this video, and skip to 2:34 if it doesn't do it for you. People in certain places in the world think problems like obesity in America is healthy because they have the money to gain fat. These people even view that owning a chocolate bar is a sign of luxury, which will also be viewed as being attractive since it means you'll be able to provide for a woman.

I know it sounds fucking crazy but it's the truth. There's areas in the world where shit like that is attractive. What is seen as attractive and what isn't is NOT the same everywhere in the world. If you look up what's viewed as being attractive in certain cultures, then you'll be bewildered as to why one would view that as being attractive. Check pic related, there's a society out there where the men finds the woman with the most rings around her neck as being the most attractive.

Hell, you can break down what is attractive to certain social cohorts in your area alone. It's all about identifying cliques and the factors which drive women in that clique to view the men in it as being attractive.

>Tfw told by people I look like sam hunt
Aw yeah

>>41586469
You look like your name is craig and you always talk about cashmere sweaters.

>>41586717
In industrialized societies, money & power will always reign supreme in regards to attraction.

>>41586753
I have a friend named Craig who talks about clothes a lot...

>>41586801
>>41586717

Bullshit. I have money and stability and women fucking loath me.

>>41580054
>get a few matches every time I swipe
>barely no girl ever initiates conversation
>Im too autistic to initiate

does that mean im average ?
If someone is attractive on tinder, will girls initiate the conversation ?

>>41583088
top fucking kek I havn't laughed out loud from a post in a while, thanks man

>>41585433
P A U L D E N I N O

>>41584975
What the actual fuck? Everyone says I look like a serial killer. I even threw the shitty smile on so I wouldn't look so menacing. Is there anything I can do to look less intimidating? I don't want to look unapproachable.

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>>41580013
say i have a big nose, but still pull some poon
is it worth it to get the surgery and get a normal nose? or is the fuck up ratio too big/new nose will bring out my other flaws?

>>41580013
If you're not attractive you're just kind of invisible to most women.

>>41587531
Dont do it bro. Fuck the mens magazines telling you to get plastic surgery

T. Big nose crew 4 lyfe

>>41582936
It ain't illegal to stare at someone. It may make the other person uncomfortable but they have the option of leaving. It's just common courtesy to not stare too long.

>>41587279
Then you don't have any social standing. You're essentially a rich loser. You need money and power. Not just money.

>>41580517
You look like a frizzy ball bag.

>>41587358
Can't help you, but I relate to this. I'm not even fit, just starting but I get about 5 matches every time i go on tinder but too virgin to talk to any of them.

>>41582279
thanks for the advice anon

>>41585891
lol happens to me too. I have my good days as well as not so good days. I think it's just the mood you're in, how you're feeling. I generally love looking at my face in the mirror after a workout, always look great.

How to look confident but un-intimidating? I'm not sure if this is my issue but I a fairly confident person face to face but I feel like I also come across as intimidating, I don't smoke naturally only when something funny, good happens, i have largge narrow eyes and tend to stair down people if I don't think about it. Any tips?

Any way to fix resting bitch face without being happier? I'm shit at looking anything but upset.

>>41581116
PULL UP YOUR FUCKING PANTS

>>41588086
Always keep good posture + look in mirror and find good smile face. Keep that face in real life. After while it will become a habit and chances are you will be happier too.

>>41588162
Aight cheers I'll give it a go

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You're not attractive if you can't pull this off

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>>41585980

Jesus Christ you must be retarded

>>41587995
try smiling more right off the bat to demonstrate friendliness.

>>41580561
If he was Heath Ledger's step brother, he would probably not look anything like Heath Ledger. Unless you are referring to some actual guy...

>>41584722
this guy should be typecast as a serial killer because that's what he looks like

>>41585300
>that face
>being attractive
Pick one

>>41588636
shut up faggot he looks like adam quardero

>>41588511
you must be ugly

>>41588636
i'm 6'4

>>41580320
Lul

>>41588782
ice is actually 6ft2 in case you didnt know
he even said himself on stream that he tells everyone hes 6ft3 cause he always wear shoes

>>41580617
Kill yourself you massive Reddit faggot cuck sjw

>>41584224
You. Got Chad potential . Just go to 11% bf baby

>>41588848
i know we're just having fun but that's like a REALLY mean thing to say.

you guys are all faggots

irish dutch alpha male here, buff and muscular. if you look the same as you did in high school, that should give you a good gauge whether or not you're attractive. if you see girls looking at you not nastily, theres a good chance they think you're hot. if in high school you ever heard through the grapevine people think you're hot, you're hot, no more questions.

most importantly is recognizing your hot, if you look at yourself in the mirror and think you're hot, you're hot. if you're gay, if you want to fuck yourself your hot.

>>41582817
Johnny Flamingo, is that you?

>>41586144
why the fuck are u still a virgin

>>41580053

Is that why Wojack's so sad all the time?

Shit...

>>41587995
Someone strong/creepy and anti-social would seem intimidating
Look up on body language and how to appear more friendly
Im sure you would feel more welcome with the person smiling and talking clearly than with the one dude with a huge frown, constantly mumbling with his arms crossed and staring at you

>>41588892
>"you guys are all faggots"
>proceeds to tell us how he knows he's hot cause he wants to have sex with himself

>>41580517
You aint Chad, youre Tim the surfer bro who played jv football with Chad for one season.

>>41582279
So whats our plan? Can we please come up with a plan?

>>41580013
You would know if you're attractive lol
Ive been on both sides, was average looking as a kid.
Older women love me and always say dumb shit like
> my granddaughter is single want her number
>If only I was 20 years younger..
>Youre a good looking man, haha I can say that cuz im old :)

>>41586469
>>41586368
beard looks like shit, trim it up

it isn't doing you any favors

>>41581116
you need to lift them pants

Step 1. Receive an honest evaluation of your appearance from close friends of the opposite sex
Step 2.. Completely ignore whatever they tell you in favor of a terrible self image and body dysmorphia

I have had multiple female friends admit to me while drunk that they found me attractive and even made out with an acquaintance who said I was hot and I still don't actually believe them because of how negatively I view myself.

I was ugly and underdeveloped for the vast majority of my life so now that I'm older and actually decent looking I have trouble believing people instead of just assuming they're messing with me.

Being a late bloomer sucks, 2/10 would not recommend for long term mental health

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>>41580053
woah

>>41588162
Same here dude. I've always looked scary, and been told so many times. My friends tell me I either look like I'm high or I'm giving them a murder stare. Is it even possible to fix my gaze?

>28 khdv
>5'10 king of manlets
>251 lbs, been overweight since middle school
>used to be 315 over a year ago, weight loss seems to be working

Is it too little, too late?

>>41589701
>Step 1. Receive an honest evaluation of your appearance from close friends of the opposite sex

This is like the 13 step, you have to first explain how to get friends of the opposite sex.

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>>41580013
>Wanting to be a pretty boy.

Just start on the hormon pills already faggot..

No but on a serious note, drop the insecure thoughts, as long as you're not deformed, you're good, as a guy you only have to be bang-able when it comes to most girls.

>>41584224
That's a sick bird you've got.

>>41580053
WHAT

>>41581530
now you know how the girls you're trying to talk to must feel

>>41590131
B-but height face frame..?

>>41589705
Jack

>>41580013

I've heard from my peers that I was crazy to not take initiative with certain girls where they claim the qts in question wanted to be "closer" to me for a lack of better word

I never understand what is happening during these encounters that signals their interest, but then again I am a literal autist(diagnosed and all that)

If people you know claim they notice how people treat you in a flirtatious way, OP, then there's a possibility that you are attractive

>>41580053
I don't get it. Can someone explain? Is it because he is bald?

>>41580735
How about when the roles are reversed?
I'm a male cashier and the closest I've ever gotten to flirting is realising that 'how are you' and 'how's your day been' are two completely different questions.
I've just started eye contact tests but I'm too nervous to ask girls out in case I get someone who complains to my boss, I don't care about the job but people talk and within a day the entire town would know.

>>41589337
yeah im hot

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>>41590732
Earlier Wojack memes show him with a full head of hair, until one day the original author posted one of those hyper real images of Wojack sitting in a doctors office and crying. Shortly afterwards his memes showed him without hair.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/the-real-reasons-you%E2%80%99re-attractive-according-to-science/ar-BBByKnV?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

>>41589701
I'm the same desu, except that I was a fat fuck all my childhood and was bullied because of it

as a result I literally can't tell if someone is messing with me or if they're geniune in their compliments

>>41584224
T b h the least attractive thing about this photo is everything except your facial features.

The angle, flash, dark room, weird expression on your face make you seem very weird, almost creepy.

It's usually stuff like this that make men unattractive as far as I've seen.

>>41590798
Do you pictures of this? I couldn't find anything.

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>>41590873
I do have this (pic) but sadly I don't have the hospital photo

>>41590939
He looks like shit with hair. Thanks anyway.

>>41580060
>body dysmorphia/low self-esteem don't exist

>>41580063
Can confirm. Best advice so far.

>>41580320
H-Heath Ledger?

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>>41580053
What is this bullshit.

>>41580320
Layne Staley?

>>41581748
R U RETARDED

>>41586718
I think ya look more like his brother Mike

>I am a comedic god

>>41588162
ok david byrne

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>>41590732
>>41590798
It's just a reference.

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>>41594263

>>41580517
Kenny G looking motherfucker

>>41580517
You look like Michael Bolton if he had klinefelters

>>41580013
Honestly just be confident, I'm pretty average older women always say I'm good looking, I get hit on by MILFs a lot but younger girls not really, but at my work they always stop and chit chat with me people always think I get a lot of dates and girls love me because I'm confident and they talk to me, but really I just sit at home and wish final fantasy girls would be my wife

>>41584224
just by being 6'+ and 200lbs+ but not fat, bangable girls will want you, always keep that in mind. yea style, physique, social media pictures, confidence, personality etc etc all help, but just always remeber some bangable women will want you for being 6+ 200+ and not fat

>>41585891
I'm like this but half the time I look sub-average, the other half I look hideously ugly.

I had a 7/10 twerk against my crotch at a halloween party.

She might have been drunk though ;_;

>>41580058
Sometimes I feel like it's "Oh god why is he here" or "How can someone be so unattractive" or even "Stop looking at me"

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>>41594263

>>41582886
10/10 face on a 220lbs/10 body

>>41580054
I did this a few times on /soc/... oh my god, I got absolutely DEMOLISHED. I mean if were an SJW I'd be calling rape on how hard I got assfucked. Fortunately I'm not a massive puss, but god damn. I've never had a cellphone so Tinder isn't even an option.

That said, I had some people give me as high as 6/10 but that was rare. I figure I was about a 4/10 objectively. This was a few years ago that I posted my pic and since then I've lost my hair and I don't have a face that goes well with being a hairlet.

>tldr - JUST

>>41589701
iktfb

My self esteem is so deep in the gutter that when I receive compliments from women I assume they're fucking with me. I even have a gf that I'm considering breaking up with because she's constantly hit on by guys and is obviously more attractive than me.

>>41595742
>My self esteem is so deep in the gutter that when I receive compliments from women I assume they're fucking with me.
Oh god damn, this feel. If a legit 3/10 came up to me right now and was hitting on me I'd still think she was making fun of me. I honestly can't fathom some woman being serious.

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>>41580920
You drink the yerba, you're alright in my book

>>41588482
>her reply to being given an order

I don't even need to ask about how much of a cuck you are.

>>41595765
Someone out there who understands. Good luck getting your self-esteem up, anon. We're gonna make it some day.

>>41580013
I think i'm not
I am 6'4'', friends say i have a nice chin and that i look good.
I get asked out by 9/10 women but i always reject because i am a fucking autistic nigger that can't speak to women.
I really need help, not sure if i should see a psychologist or something.

>>41589952
>khdv
kissless
handholdless
d???????????????
virgin

>>41580013
Your personality shows in your face and stature, and it is by far the most attractive/unattractive thing about you.

>hint: if you're constantly worrying if you're attractive you're just going to come off as insecure and kind of creepy.

>>41596338
dubsless

>checkem

>>41582401
>avoid staring at hobos, ghetto niggers, and children tho

why? those are the most fun.
>stare down regular people
>predictable, boring

>stare down big niggers
>half of them glare back like we're about to kill each other
>1/4 look away immediately, shocked that a white guy is daring to look at them
>1/4 glance away casually because you're just some guy staring at them on the sidewalk

>>41585404
Who cares?

>Finnish memes are literally too retarded for normies to use
>spurdo will always be there for you

>>41586305
Fucking thanks, this has changed my view on how to look good a LOT.

>>41590154
Bird flu? How can you tell?

>>41586343
Thanks for the confirmation anon, I am one sexy devil

>>41580517

Dude, are you even trying to look like Weird Al yankovic?

>>41597894
fucking end it all

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>>41580013
>tfw women always sit next to me because I live in an area full of drug addicts and weirdos and I look relatively normal

>>41598049
same, looking well adjusted is what actually matters I think.

>>41580320
heath ledger, but i feel this is bait.

>>41582917
Oh look, its the kid just back from his freshman year at a C-Tier state school with two one night stands and six months of lifting to back up his claim of being a 10/10

>>41580063
>getting to know the flesh bit surrounding your fuck hole

>>41581842
I try to break eye contact every 10-20 seconds

>>41581116
Fug ya u do

>>41584975
Corpsegrinder is cool af

>>41597894
>sorry autocorrect

kekarino

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>tfw girls only find you attractive when they're drunk

>>41581699
On the off chance you see this or it helps anyone else, god do not wash with shampoo every fucking day. It's a filthy meme. Wash with shampoo twice a week, tops. Only wash more if you somehow get crap in your hair.

It will start off terribly, and you will be more oily than usual for a couple weeks. This is because when you wash everyday your hair takes notice and produces a lot more oil to compensate. After it realises it has adequate levels, it will level back out and your hair will stop becoming oily. It will become a lot more healthier looking, have a much nicer natural shine and will never frizz. Look it up, it's the best way to take care of your hair. I personally shampoo once on wednesdays and once on saturdays, never use anything else and my hair is fucking fantastic. It also helps with acne, because your hair doesn't produce as much oil when you sleep.

>>41585972
If he ends up in mainstream media that's the way I'd want him to go

>>41580320
I thought you were in prison

>>41585980
well rucky you

>>41597894
>twitch emotes in text form
>autism/gibberish
>"fucking nigger kys"
>"wanna bang"

Truly incredible

>>41581542
This

>>41595687
Kek

>>41595765
I find alcohol helps

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>>41598640
i literally just gave my phone to my memespouting friends and let them have at it

the first thing she did on snapchat was send me underwear picks and i just felt bad bc im pretty sure she was 16 and just wanted someone to tell her she was pretty

>>41580517
For some reason you reminded me of the killer from silence of the lambs

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>Be total skelly
>Rarely wash
>Literally condition my hair but not wash it out afterwards
>Dress like I'm about to go full Columbine
>Still get mired on occasion
>Got some attention and snagged a few qts over a few years

>Start lifting
>Start washing
>Up to dyel mode
>Dress in clothes that actually fit
>Haven't even kissed a girl in about a year and a half
>Never get mired by anyone
>Ever

I don't know what happened. I don't understand.

>>41599111
You used to be mysterious and alternative. Girls would see you and want to change you or hang with you to prove that they were alternative too. You represented something different to the standard
Now you're just a boring normalfag

Keep going

>>41580058
lol, when girls stare at me at the eyes i freak out and instantly turn like she aint nothing to me.. I'm trying to do better, so i practice with family, literallty eye fucked my aunt. She looked uncomfortable.

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>>41599262
You may be right. I made the old Elliott Rodger mistake of moving into an overpopulated demographic. I suppose its back to rock n roll. Thanks, anon.

>>41599276
>She looked uncomfortable.
Because she secretly wanted it, anon. You know its true.

You guys know that gif where at a baseball (?) match some guy pulls the ponytail of some blonde basic bitch and she turns around and has that look in her eyes?

I kept making eye contact with this girl for like 4 times and I instantly recognized it (still too beta to make a move tho).

It's ALL in the eyes.

>>41590798
I often get a captcha with a freeway filled with cars asking me to select vehicles..

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>>41591179
No they don't you fucking tumblr whale

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>>41580045
you offering?

>>41580920
Is that mate? Why do you retards carry it around everywhere? It's not that good. Really fucking grinds my gears. Love argentinians otherwise, especially the chicks