How do you become more //macho// fit? Is the man's, man's

you might as well become a trap

>>41568448
sounds fine man, masculinity is more than MUH METAL and MUH WEIGHTLIFTING, fully realized masculine men are able to appreciate fine art

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>>41568448
Trying to follow trends will just make you look like a tool. Just do what you like and don't worry about dumb concepts like masculinity.

Be fit, be a gentleman, be self-reliant and the rest doesn't matter.

you're insecure because you're not sure what a "masculine" upbringing is like since you were raised by all females.

its fine man, you sound better developed than most boys. dancing and piano can be badass and a high level of hygiene is always good

ur fine brah keep doing you

>>41568448
>>tfw raised by lesbian mothers one of whom biological (F r i e n d s style ) and big sister

jesus christ i cant imagine the nightmare that is having some fucked up nonstandard family like this and now tens of thousands of kids are going through it.

murder and suicide rates sure aren't going to skyrocket over the next few decades!

Well lift for strength obviously.
But seriously, don't get cucked by "masculinity", which is 99% a meme and 1% sadomasochistic. What people don't usually tell you is that being secure about your masculinity (or lack thereof) is just about the most masculine thing you can do.
Just be yourself.

>>41568448
>beard, joe rogan podcast, bacon
yeah all those things are memes. the most important part of being a man is being who you are regardless of whats fashionable in the eyes of others. whether those people are telling you to be a "traditional" manly man or a metroseual fag. tell them to fuck off. the only trait you need to be a man (or a worth while person in general) is self reliance like >>41568645 said

Hey OP, if youre going to take any advice from this thread, this should be it.

>>41568733

I was raised too pretty much only by my mother and sister so i have some feminine shit stuck in my head.

And it has fucked me in every relationship i had because i acted like a pussy. At least i learned from my mistakes but theres still much to learn.

The hygiene, neat apartment shit etc. are the good sides of it, most people like like trash.

the only position lesbian boys can play in football is kicker

>>41568448

There's nothing macho about bacon. Steak is way more macho than bacon. Porterhouse is probably the most macho steak, as long as it's not cooked beyond medium rare. Anything beyond medium rare is for faggots and nancies.

>>41568726
My mom's friend is a lesbian and she and her partner have a couple kids and they seem perfectly well adjusted.
Just one data point, but there you go.

>>41568776
alot of the advice itt seems to be in the same vain t b h

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Manliness is an attitude, not your interests.

>assertive
>dgaf
>confident
>self reliant as others have said

Be a good friend and BF, value family

>>41568726
tons of kids already come from one parent broken home (usually just a mother) so it doesn't matter, being two just means there's more time for the child, better fincial situation etc.

>>41568825
Not him but everyone on this board should be strength training.
Squats and oats.

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>>41568448
I grew up in a country side drinking bourbon, shootong guns, playing football, and hunting and recently lifting. Trust me anon, you're man enough dont feel insecure about your shit.

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>>41568486
>>41568645
>>41568709
OP do NOT listen to these faggots. If you have thought about being more manly extensively enough to make a thread about it, you probably DO need to improve. You'll never change the way you want if you just make excuses for why everything is okay. You need to be who you want to be. I'm gonna give you some advice in greentext now.

>Start lifting for strength with bodybuilding accesories (greyskull lp, PHUL, Reg parks 5x5 etc)
>Start listening to Sabaton if you want to try something new. You can also try Two Steps From Hell if you want to stick to music that has a classical feel to it.
>STOP WATCHING FRENCH MOVIES
>Don't waste time ironing your shirts but other shit you stated is okay.
>Stop lighting incense, only time you should be smearing yourself with something is when your're fucking a girl, jacking off, or taking a shower.
>Go to a few boxing or wrestling classes, force a friend or relative to come with you if you want
>Lastly, Don't get too hung up on it or think about it too much. Just do what I said and you will feel confident in your manhood.

P.S. Go to church.

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>>41568867

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>>41568877

> lifting for strength

JUST LOL @ this powerlifting cuck

>>41568448
if you have to try to be "macho" or "manly" everyone can tell you're just faking it

>>41568448
Buy a gun and start playing hockey.

>>41568900
t. bro split dyel that has been stuck at 1 pl8 for 2 years

>>41568877
OP, this guy is posting on 4chan. Now ask yourself: Is this someone from whom you're going to take advice on being macho?

>>41568952
w-with the gun?

>>41568877
>try Two Steps From Hell
Why would you take advice from someone that says this

>>41568877
>Unironically listening to Two steps from hell after 8th grade

hahahahaha

>>41569002
Yeah you've never seen that before?!??!

>>41568877
>STOP WATCHING FRENCH MOVIES

This is the most important part, OP. The French are literal cuckolds.

>>41568981
So is OP, so are you. 4chan has become pretty mainstream if you haven't noticed.

>>41569140
Yeah but we're all telling OP to NOT be macho. Macho people posting on 4chan is a contradiction.

>>41568448
dude, being cultured like being able to play the piano gets bitches wet as fuck. You keep that shit a secret unless it comes up in conversation, and then you bust some shit out on a piano when you're with a woman you're trying to bang (or are banging). They'll be hella impressed

>>41568486
this anon is right
>>41568709
so is this one

>>41568448

literally everything you're doing is fine you faggot
your problem is being an insecure fuck, which is the least manly thing you can do.

>>41568835
this

ITT:
>masculinity is all about being yourself, maaan
>it's all subjective
>I'm a sissy crossdressing chastity cage BBC slut but I'm more of a man than you because I'm secure with myself :^)

>>41569236
This guy gets it.

>>41569281
Double posting to say that (((postmodernism))) is cancer.

Ask yourself the following questions at the end of each day:
>Did I make any money today?
>Did I get any pussy today?

If the answer to either is no, then you have work to do

>>41569213
4chan isn't your Uber secret nerd club anymore oldfag.

>>41569281

masculinity is simply doing what you want while being confident in it, its not conforming to a norm that you don't agree with or that makes you uncomfortable

The concept of "masculinity" changes throughout history and culture. The most accurate description of it would be at the very basis, independence and confidence

>>41569281
Where did anyone say it's all subjective?
The other two though, yeah basically.

>>41569400
Your post made me genuinely sad.
It SHOULD be, normies OFF MY BOARD.

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>>41569337
>wasting your precious life force nutritious semen on the vaginal Jew
>not transmutating your sexual energy into other aspects of life by not spilling your elixir of life

Never gonna make it

>>41568448
What is wrong with classical music, dancing and playing the piano? All of those things are dominated by males at the highest level (like everything else, really)

>>41568877
>Start listening to Sabaton if you want to try something new. You can also try Two Steps From Hell if you want to stick to music that has a classical feel to it.

dont listen to this girly faggot listen to some industrial instead bruh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCaqr84o3Y

>>41569213
Umm no sweetie, 4chan is for normies now

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>>41568448
Dude, you just keep being you. I personally don't care for any of that crap but if it makes you happen then why change? Just be secure in you and bee yourself.

>>41568448
Op listen to this Anon
>>41568709

Also, wasn't it the Irish who said something like don't give a man a sword until he knows how to dance. Basically, an appreciation for beauty and the finer things is the mark of a mature man. At the same time, maybe you just want to buy an axe and maul and just split like 10 cords of wood.

Vivaldi's the bomb, btw

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>>41568448
>tfw raised by lesbian mothers
move to israel, join the idf

>>41568448
join a fraternal group

the world is full of betas or narcissists, and this is your way out of it

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>>41568448
>joe rogan
>man's man

>>41568709
Yes buddy ur perfect listen to this anon ;)

>>41568448
It's all about self confidence darling! When they say, you can't be a female because you were genetically born a male you tell them, "At least I'm confident in myself enough to change my gender appearance!" Traps are not gay!

I wonder what kind of faggot your son is going to grow up to be. Hahaha.

God when will /fit/izens learn to recognize /pol/ bait. Op is clearly a fag.

>>41569002
>play hockey with a gun
>tfw the gun wins

How does it feel to know they probably let out their hate for men on you by emasculating you as a man.

>They let me be a boy growing up

Then why don't you feel like one?
Two genetic deviants that aren't naturally meant to reproduce let alone raise offspring of the opposite gender to be healthy adults. I kek everytime.

>implying that maintaining a clean home is unmasculine

KEEP

YOURSELF

SORTED

Sell heroin. It will teach you a lot of life lessons. You will either, or, And

>End up a junkie
>Get killed in a robbery
>Get killed by junkies
>Be hated by entire communities
>Become paranoid
>Become violent
>Become incarcerated
>Make a lot of cash money
>Become insanely more smart
>Become insanely stupid
>Become the shame of your family
>Never be able to work a normal legitimate job if caught
>Destroy families
>Destroy communities
>Get otherwise perfectly healthy adults hooked
>Constantly hiding from police
>Won't be able to tell people about your problems or risk being snitched on
>Develop trust issues among everyone

Then you can flaunt your cash and listen to rap music. But I bet you won't jump in the water.

>>41572320
wtf does this have to do with being macho. TL DR

Why can't you just ask your "dad" mom how to pretend to be a man

>>41568486
That’s just what feminised men tell themselves to feel better.

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>>41568645
>be a gentleman

How does it feel to know sane adults most likely declined your mentay I'll faggot parents attempt at adopting for legitimate reasons so they bent the rules to have a child by getting a sperm donor.

>>41568877
>Start lifting for strength
Not relevant, stop shilling for strength training, lift accordingly to your goals
>Start listening to Sabaton
Very specific music taste is not relevant, but the point is valid, quit listening to girly shit
>STOP WATCHING FRENCH MOVIES
Absolutely must, stop right the fuck now
>Don't waste time ironing your shirts
I don't iron my shirts but I don't see how this is relevant
>Stop lighting incense
Absolutely, what kind of faggot uses incense what the fuck
>Go to a few boxing or wrestling classes
Relevant

But in all honesty OP, I think you are doomed to be a feminine man forever. How old are you? You didn't have a masculine figure but had your whole life to understand masculinity through other boys and men in your social circle, like I did.
I didn't have a strong masculine figure but it worked out, I don't have guest towels and god damn incense in my house

>tfw I wasn't such a pussy of a man my father abandoned me with my dyke mother

>>41568448
Just ask your dad
Oh wait that's right

>>41572689
Fuckin got him

>>41568448
>>usually end my day by lightning some incense and listning to chill RnB while smearing myself in moisturizing cream and doing yoga

u gay as hell nigga

>>41572689
R O A S T E D
O
A
S
T
E
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Put this post on Reddit OP you will get better help than here.

>>41572749
t. Femanon

>>41568803
Bacon is so reddit dude. Literally most overrated breakfast food. Yeah it tastes good but I'd rather have sausage, more filling and just as tasty anyway.
>>41569461
>>41568448
>dancing

Yeah OP, remember that Hugh Jackman dances on Broadway

>>41568726
Literally doesn't even matter. Half of men are numales anyway and lesbians are usually pretty cool, a woman can have and inspire masculine values, increasingly so these days. No I'm not talking about trans people. I said MASCULINE. VALUES. When it comes down to it that's really what masculinity is - just a set of values.
>Physical ability
>Confidence
>Assertiveness
>Passion
>Ability to provide
>a lot of others

But all of which can easily be taught by a woman. I know my mom taught me to stand up for myself moreso than my dad

>>41572792
>Looks down on numales
>Thinks a woman can raise a perfectly mentally healthy male by herself

Bad news for ya, bud.

>>41568850
>people this dumb are allowed to vote

>>41568804
There was a really weird guy at my old job raised by lesbos

>>41568867
>grew up country side playing football
>Recently lifting

You're a fucking bench warmer faggot boy you have no say in what makes a man macho. Even girls shoot guns and drink Bourbon faggot.

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>>41572689

>>41572792
Sounds like your daddy was a cuck I wonder if he passed that onto you or if he actually taught you anything.

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>>41568448
>beard
Personally I go with the "I shave every few days and let it build up because I'm lazy" look
>bacon
Used to be a massive fan but now I prefer steak, BBQ ribs etc. It's still really good though.
>disney princesses, dancing and piano lessons
>piano sonatas, guest towels, soaps
dude this shit is gay, stop doing all of this and go wash your car or something. By yourself, not going through one of those godawful machines that scratches up your paintjob.

>>41572689
I mean, he has to be out there somewhere right?

But then again I don't know if you want to meet him, the type of man that would rather let his sons be raised by two dykes than raise him by himself must be some kind of queer too.

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>>41572865
Either that or he got screwed over horribly by his wife, considered suicide because he couldn't bear to tell his friends and family that his wife left him "for another woman", and is blackmailed/guilt tripped into never seeing his son even though he desparately wants to.

>>41572792
I doubt your mother has felt the unbridled retarded energy of male testosterone as a young adolescent. All she can do is tell you what she "thinks" a man should be.

Btw your dad sounds like a bitch.

>>41572886
>Screwed over by his wife
Man up
>Considered suicide
Man up
>Couldn't bare the embarrassment
Man up
>Blackmailed and guilt tripped into never seeing his son

Any man that doesn't take pride in his own offspring doesn't have pride in himself and is a pussy.

>>41572792
>mom taught you man stuff

I highly doubt your mom taught you how to ride a motorcycle or shoot a gun.

>>41572847
>>41572889
Not a cuck, just didn't really care, he's obsessed with his work

also come to orlando and fight me faggots

>>41572915
>orlando
go north and find some real men

>>41572792
Look up statistics for fatherless males
Have a lol and then thank God your mom was able to trap your father who obviously didn't want anything to do with you since he didn't even teach you basic values that every boy learns from school age of learning to stick up for yourself and dealing with other asshole kids

>>41572915
But what would mommy say? Pucci boi
Go fight your dad for not being a role model for you and letting you develop feminine emotional systems.

>>41568486
No it's not

Masculinity is exclusively muh lifting and muh metal

>>41572915
How does it feel to know you think like a woman and your father would rather focus on his work rather than what he's supposedly working for

>>41572944
lifting yeah, but modern metal tries way too hard.

Some of it is good, but a lot of it is literally "im 13 and edgy" bullshit

>>41572943
>>41572933
>90 replies
>45 posters

Someone's passionate

>>41568448
jocko podcast

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>>41568448
>Vivaldi

You should work on your shit taste

I don't blame u I blame yo daddy it was how you were raised - Gucci Mane

I had the exact opposite of you, raised by a single father, no siblings. I feel like the lack of female interaction at home, really crippled my social skills, because they were so alien to me. I'm also terrible at opening up my feelings. I feel cold, and hard like there is a wall built up.

>>41568448
does /fit/ realize there are other male role models apart from the dude who stuck his dick in your mom? oh wait, 4chan doesn't go outside

Part of becoming a man is acknowledging your insecurities and overcoming them in different ways so you are confident in yourself

>>41572991
You're in a thread about stereotypical masculinity, the fuck do you expect?

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>>41568448
>beard

You think a beard is manly? The thing that literally appears on your face with zero effort as long as you can suck down oxygen long enough? Every fat, effeminate faggot-ass liberal in America has a beard right now. EVEN FEMINIST MEN ARE GROWING BEARDS.

A beard is not a mark of manliness.

Manliness is self-evident. It's charisma, composure, strength of body and character, and willful gentleness despite your brawn.

>>41572980
I know that feel. Even now at 22 saying "I love you" to someone feels fucking awkward.

>>41573024
It still does. I have a daughter now, and I have to force myself to say it... like its my kid and I really do love her, but I feel uncomfortable as shit expressing it.

>>41572865
What is op is a sperm donor baby?
>Tfw Thinking of donating sperm so two dykes play with your seed!

>>41573024
>>41573038
I'm pretty sure this is normal. I was raised good by normal mom and dad and I still find all that shit awkward.

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>>41573162
Same here 21 raised by mom and dad.
>Be me girlfriend at the time tells me she loves me I hesitate.
>It's over like That.

Stop american movies, you'll get your chromosomes back, then realize you're already a man
But then you can start lifting and shove that fact to people's faces, It is maybe what you need right know

>>41568877
>u must become wut u want
>u must become me
>heres a list of stupid things to do to become me
m8 pls

>>41573162
>>41573219

I never had anyone say it to me including my father so it carries a different kind of feel. One time I remember I was younger like 6 or 7 and for some reason I tried saying I love you to my dad before he went to work, and he just said Yea and didn't even look at me and left. It didn't hurt my feelings but I felt stupid for saying it. It's more like there's no place for emotions to be expressed.

>>41573024
>>41573219
I'm 18, and say i love you literally all the time, to my Gf.

Am i .. less "manly" for not having this be more exclusive? Its long distance so we barely see another, but i think i honestly do love her... and she says it back so its super comfy.

>>41573340
lol I can imagine if I was a dad I'd probably just say "y-you too" and sprint out the door or something.

>>41573361
Nah I think it's alright if it's your loveulongtiems gf or wife. I'd probably only ever say it before hanging up the phone to her or leaving the house for a long while though.

you probably sit too much, try moving all day for weeks.

Being manly is an aesthetic property, and whether or not it is good is up to taste. There actually good things to be, though, and one of them is confident in your tastes, yet open minded. Other good traits to have are honesty (with yourself, being honest with others comes naturally afterwards), empathy, and skepticism.

Be confident in yourself and your tastes, that's more manly than being rough n tough.

>>41573388
>be confident in your tastes
yeah but also that doesn't work if you're a long haired skinnyfat kid watching my little pony

there are like, boundaries.

nice doubledubs

>>41573376
Thanks, this is pretty much spot on.

>>41568448
I can kinda relate
>grew up only next to my mom
>parents separated
>the way I am feels as if having been nurtured mostly by a female has developed my feminine side and even over to the masculine side >>41572980
similar case to this guy as well

>>41568448
If you need to ask how to be more masculine, you don't understand what the fuck it is and never will.

>>41569454
Please teach me master, on how to transmute sexual energy, and never feel that one feel
>tfw no gf

>>41569002
>ahmed in canada

>>41568448

>tofu is gay
>wine is for fags
>roid
>chicken is for chics, real men eat beef
>only gays and women enjoy arts
>dont emotionally attach yourself to women, its a key to success
>walk over others to climb up the ladder
>lift heavy weights
>don`t run, running is for fags
>know how to wrench cars, fix stuff at home
>watch boxing, mma or other fighting sports
>don`t be afraid to be a douchebag - you can be nice guy only to your sister or your mom

Thats from the top of my head, I know I could list more, but these are basics

go in army

>>41568448
>listen to piano sonatas or Vivaldi while lifting
fucking
B A S E D

>>41568448
>>listen to piano sonatas or Vivaldi while lifting
>>enjoy art, literature and french movies
>>apartment fully neat and clean, ironed shirts, guest towels, expensive soaps etc
>>usually end my day by lightning some incense and listning to chill RnB while smearing myself in moisturizing cream and doing yoga
This makes you far more attractive than the vast majority of /fit/
Enjoy it.

>>41568448
You will never be a 'man' because you already think that listening to certain music or appreciating literature makes you either gay or a woman. Jesus Christ, mate, just have the fucking balls to like what you want.

Certain people are probably more stereotypically manly than others; others likely put on a show for the same insecurities you have.

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>>41574705
this, part of being a man is losing the fear of not looking manly, and having the balls to like what you want

>>41572337
drug dealing is manly idiot

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>>41568877
>>41569464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxZpEFJhO6k
try this for RADICAL

>>41568448
Smoke cigarettes or cigars. They keep the blood flowing. Nicotine inhibits estrogen.

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>>41575301
>Nicotine inhibits estrogen
Is that true?

>>41575451
No, it fucking isnt.

Stop even considering it.

Stop.

Stop

>>41568448
If you have to ask, you'll probably never be a man

>>41568448
Get into reading Hemmingway

For whom the bell tolls was the father I never had

>>41568448
Being a real man is all about being independent and not giving a fuck. Just being a badass at whatever you do and stoically indifferent to others. And being strong.

Look at Hugh Jackman. By normal bro standards he would be a huge faggot--his wife's fat and he does musical theater. But he lifts big and seems to be happy and doesn't care what others think. So he's a real man.

One thing that can disqualify you from being a man is being skinny fat. It's almost impossible to be a real man if you're skinny fat

>>41568448
Key elements that differentiate men from women:

--High testosterone levels (most of the following differences follow from this)
--strength and muscle mass
--risk taking behavior (that means having balls, doing cool stuff)
--excellence at a skill that can be displayed publicly (often this is a sport but it can be anything--rock climbing, computer programming, whatever)
--respect from other strong, risk taking men
--leadership, the ability to get others to do what you want by suggestion or command

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>>41568448
Dont listen to all the plebs saying French film/piano/literature is not manly. This is the biggest problem within the fitness community, they are all uncultured plebs with no interest or hobbies beside lifting. It is just as important to be cultured as to be fit otherwise you are just an empty shell.
This is Why is miss /fitlit/.
Go read a book dumbfucks.

>>41574174

yeah if you want to be mindless drone with restricted freedoms and obeying orders, then yes. But that army isn`t masculine.

>>41575551
It's Hemingway. Start reading John Updike, then. Rabbit, Run, The Centaur.

>>41568448
i'm jealous bro. if you lift and become aesthetic you're pretty much slayer material
>girl sees chad, pussy gets wet
>thinks he's just another one of the 127 chads she's spread her legs for, douchey, uncultured, no interests outside the gym
>"hey, do you want to light some incense, listen to chill RnB, smear ourselves in moisturizing cream and do yoga?"
>bitches fall in love

i swear girls fall in love with the contrast between really masculine and really feminine traits in a guy. look at russell brand as an example

>

>>41569464
>tfw you unironically listen to electro industrial

>>41568448
i dont become, i am

Is being masculine really that important?

>>41568835
Any recommendations on how to develop this mindset?

>>41574042
Practice Bhramacharya

>>41573024
I haven't told anyone I loved them in years but I don't really know anyone and I don't love anyone.

Chad SETS the mood with DRAKE PANDORA on an iDOCK while you guy LATHER yourself in FRAGRANCED MOISTURIZERS listening to PIANO

>>41568448
If you can do all that and not feel self-conscious, that's pretty macho. The least manly thing possible is to hide what you enjoy in order to appear better towards others. That being said, you could take up some stereotypically manly stuff, liking drinking whiskey, smoking cigars, shooting guns and handywork. All of which are pretty fun, desu. In fact, I'm almost in the opposite situation, since being a 24-year old student and smoking cigars makes it seem like I'm overcompensating for something.

Also, beards are cool, unless you make a big deal about having a beard. Grow it, groom it, but never talk about how manly and "badass" it is.

>>41568877
>Don't waste time ironing your shirts
my man

never post here again