You nattys don't roid for two reasons One your too much

i'm poor

Second one only

>>41493746
dont know what you talking about, i just pinned my quad 1cc tren ace.

>>41493782
They're not expensive

>>41493746
i can barely afford gym membership as it is. if i had the money i'd do it instantly

>>41493746
I don't roid because I don't want to, faggot.

>>41493746
I have naturally low level of testosterone (family thing, shit genetics), so I could probably get prescription and legal source, but I don't want to...at least not yet and not anytime soon. I will start considering it, when I hit major plateau. However, as long as I can progress naturally I don't even see a viable reason to inject myself with anything, that my body produces naturally.

>>41493746
2 is right mostly.

Also don't give a shit about that, just want to feel good doing some exercises that will keep me healthy and getting an otter mode physique

>>41493746
health buddy, im not a professional body builder.
my job doesnt require me to do that shit.

>>41493746
I dont want to shut down my natural testosterone production.. Read about it its a real risk. Just google shut down after cycle. A lot of young guys who fucked them selfes over (some of them even did pct and took ai and everything)

>>41493901
Yep.. Id ratger be smaller and healthier

I have nothing against steroids, but I will not consider using before I deem I reached my genetic limit.

>>41493746
I dont want to rely on it. What if im going on a vacation, how will i pin? I cant bring it with me. Also, i wanna see how big i can get natural

>>41493746
Don't want to be a drug addict.

Also don't want to scramble my balls.

>>41493746
Using steroids is bloating yourself temporarly. After cycle when your test is low you shrink.. The people you see who are always big are abusing it and will surely pay the price when they come off. They will be shutdown with low test

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Because lifting is not about instant gratification, its about the journey. Its about not being reliant on certain things. 99% of us dont want to be pro bodybuilders or are pro athletes, so there is no need to roid. Also you can get pretty big without roids

Something you roidheads will never learn

>>41494035
>says as he meticulously portions his meals and supplements his diet with whey protein and creatine

It's all about maximizing results. If we can do the same amount of work and get better results in a safe manner, then why wouldn't you?

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>>41493746
>Two you cannot get a reliable source
yes....

do you know where?

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I love road cycling but I don't look like and train like or use EPO like pic related because I'm NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT as in I'm not a professional athlete.
Exactly same with steroids. My source of income isn't bodybuilding so why take the health risks that come with steroid use?

>>41493901
I've blasted for a year straight and came off with no pct and been fine

>>41493911
Pin before you go

>>41493746
>you cannot get a reliable source
This I find hard to believe, getting a source is pretty easy. My first cycle came from a friend, I know a few guys who can hook me up, and legit internet sources are fairly easy to find. If you don't trust them, buy something for a few bucks and see whether it's a scam.


>your too much of a pussy to stick yourself with a needle
3 cycles on, still hate needles. Not a big deal though.


I'm going to have to go with "being poor".
Sure, some test and a few pins are dirt cheap, but add in your AI, cycle support, pct, maybe some orals to kick start, it starts to add up.

>>41493746
i don't roid because i'm not a little fuckboi tryhard faggot with ubermensch genetics

nice try though

>>41494051
Because I like the process of developing

>>41494191
Your choice in which tools to use is rather arbitrary.

>>41494181
How are try hard or ubermensch insults, dumbfuck?

>>41494196
The cheapest ones with the least attached responsibility and health or legal risk. I also don't believe in recreational or ped. I don't even drink alcohol.

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>>41493746
I do roid though desu

>>41493746
you damn right about reliable source

>>41494181
t. little fuckboi

Redpill: no source is reliable

>>41493746

Im living with parents and couldnt get away with it

also im poor

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are legal alternatives like anvarol from crazy bulk even working? I am a female with 20.1 bf % looking to achieve 15 bf% at 50 kgs. I would try anavar if it wasn't difficult to find in my country.
I want to look like this given a couple years, I figure this isn't achievable natty unless good genetics...

>>41494316
protip: they're not actually alternatives they're a complete waste of money

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>>41494355
thanks for the tip. I am researching unbiased reviews, since most reviews I find come from affiliates...I think I will come to the same conclusion as you, in the end.

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Because there are no roids where I live. Would hop on the bicycle immediatly if it was available.

2 with a side 3; it's illegal as fuck here in Cuck-straya

>>41493886

Lifting yo be a little twink otter mode bitch. Don't ever call yourself strong. The natty limit takes Decades of proper diet sleep and GENETICS. Ie not low testosterone most natty numales have terribly low T. You think your plateu is anything admirable you have no idea how bad it really is.

>>41494027
>>41493900
Testosterome it's self is healthy you are misinformed.

>>41494256
You're not natty then, are you?

>>41494517
>producing test naturally after injecting it

good luck

2,
Don't wanna order on clearnet bcus german customs seizing shit and me losing money

>>41494442
Samies. I have to settle for birch bark and moss for all my bodybuilding needs.

>>41494316
>>41494379
me here, so I did some research and I could actually get steroids from a nearby country if I get them delivered there - I know someone there with an adress- the company is zaralone international. Is it a decent company? has anyone been in contact with them, had business with them? I'd like a second opinion before I go on my smuggling operation (I thought of taking orals and putting them in vitamins and supplements bottle, there's not so much looking at at the border of the two countries).

I'd love to cruise but don't know how.

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heres my current stack plus some dianabol not in the picture

I'm too lazy to bother with buying gear and everything that comes with it, doing regular check-ups and worrying about eventual consequences

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can someone please tell me where to score some in america? these damn fucking jews banned it here

>>41494126
Check your bloods homie.. You are not fine

>>41494517
But what happenes after cycle? Low test.. You loose muscle.. Flappy dick. Cant do simple math

>>41493746
Nope. In my case it's because I gain an enormous amount of satisfaction and well-being from knowing that my hard work is just that - my hard work. No fucking boosters, no shit doing the work for me. Just all me.

Some people can cheat and make it (Arnie) but I can't help but see it as a form of weakness. Plus who the fuck wants acne, dry skin and a cock that a toddler laughs at?

>>41493860
I want to do a cycle with EQ test and HCG. Shit runs in the 300-400 dollars easily.

>>41493746
Because I don't like the idea of being reliant upon it. Also makes you less flexible for /trv/ and /out/

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>>41493802
On week 5 of babby's first test e cycle, and I feel like a new human.

pinning yourself is a rush after the first few shitty nervous times :^)

>>41494753
so by that logic you dont use any pre workout or protein powder or anything like that either?
>>41494725
that is if you dont know what the fuck youre doing, all of that can easily be avoided.

all these excuses are built on not knowing enough

>>41493860
I live in eastern europe and as a student too I definitely can't afford it.

>>41493746
Pretty much almost exactly that.

If the source was reliable etc, imagine like medical uses, it would be great.

I'm too pussy to stick with a needle and wouldn't think twice about oral.

I'm fearful of accelerated hair loss or making my acne even worse.

Also a little stigma within family.

>>41494303
what? I live with my parents and it's easy. pin yourself in the bathroom on wednesday mornings and saturday nights - it's not like it takes three hours of screaming to get it done

>>41494823
yeah me too. i think that's one of the things i least expected but pinning actually feels sort of cool now.

Oh boy, ill bite

Maybe, just maybe, i dont want to deal with host of health problems and concerns that accompany roiding?
Maybe i dont need to look like roidmonkey because im not this insecure?
>hurr roids are safe just dont overdo it
>durr its totally fine to boost your hormone levels to 10x its normal value
yeah sure

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>>41494968
>Maybe, just maybe, i dont want to deal with host of health problems and concerns that accompany roiding?

pls post health problems that come from a 10 week test only 500 mg/wk cycle with proper pct?

>>41494985
i might slap your cunt face

stop shitting up this board

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>>41494992
Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

Im getting my bf down before i roid but this is what im going to do as a 1st cycle

C4 Test E 300
Nolvadex
Airmidex

>>41493746
Honestly don't care enough about how good I look to waste money on it.

>>41493746
I don't know where to get pharma gear.

Ugl seems risky longterm.

>I don't want my happiness and health dependent on a needle.
Why are /fraud/fags so hard on their shilling of roids? Seems kind of depraved to me.

>>41494843
If you google "shut down after pct" you will find hundred of kids who got swole only to shut down and return to skelly no boner mode.. A lot of them followed correct pct

>>41493746
>you cannot get a reliable source
Absolutely right
If I had one I'd want to be cycling

>>41493746
Yeah, I can't get a reliable source. I wouldn't mind pinning to get YUGE

>>41494517
Something happened to your brain while roiding at least, you can't spell for shit.

>>41495043
Hard truth right there

I would if I knew anyone who could get me some, but I am homegym master race, so I am totally lonely and have 0 contacts.

it's a subcutaneous shot right?
no faffing around trying to find a vein

>>41493746
Three: People who roid look unnatural and are often considered less attractive than people with a fit/athletic physique

Stay mad roid monkey

The one's I know who roid are fucking mental and fucked in the head.

>your too much of a pussy to stick yourself with a needle
I'm considering doing 40mg/day dianabol for 4 weeks as baby's first cycle. Fuck needles.
>you cannot get a reliable source
Really nigga? This is not hard at all with some research.

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>>41495655
> t. jealous faggot who wishes he looked like me

pic related

>>41495677
Nice fupa, and this is achievable by eating pizza and lifting for a few months

>>41495650
IM mate

>>41495677
yeah but you're a nigger

Roiders are literally deformed. The human body isn't meant to look like that.

>>41495677
lookin good achievable natty tho

>>41493746
- It's expensive
- I don't have to worry about taking/injecting shit as if I was 70
- I'm fit, happy, and look good without roids

Why bother?

>>41495744
>- It's expensive
Test E costs $20.00 for a 10ml vial.

>- I don't have to worry about taking/injecting shit as if I was 70
AKA you just admitted you are either scared of a mosquito bite, lack responsibility, or both. You just admitted to major character flaws.

>- I'm fit, happy, and look good without roids
If you really think so. But I doubt it. If you are so happy and fit then why don't you post a happy picture of your happy satisfied body with a time stamp?

>>41493746
I do competitive sport.
If I only trained for 'muh gainz/muh aesthetics' then I would probably roid, but the fact is that I train because I want to challenge myself and see how I can fare on a level playing field.

>>41495677
>roiding for this

>>41495760
So not wanting to take medicine when I can choose to live without them is a character flaw?
That's a fallacy, by the way.

>>41494517
It is not a fucking race, roided moron. I am patient enough to train until I die, so that's about your 'decades' argument. Also, I don't train for mires, but to be the best self I can be at any given moment. There will always be someone stronger or leaner.

>>41495760
Enjoy having no natural test production..

>>41495857
>I'm 70 and finally reached half the bodyweight that a simple steroid cycle would have helped me reach 30 years ago
>It's a good thing I'm natty because I have the remaining 2 years of my life to enjoy this body I worked for!

Or maybe, just maybe I take pleasure in my natural tesosterone production and am confident enough in myself to where I can be alpha without having to fraud my way there.

>>41494843
nope, just boiled eggs and/or chicken after weights.

Got my first cycle of dbol and test e ready to go with ai and pct in hand.

Anyone done a similar noon cycle? I'd like to know what I can realistically expect.

>>41495760
whoa whoa whoa, $20 test e?! are you homebrewing!?

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>>41495824
>>41495693
>>41495699

bunch of natty faggots all around. enjoy the cuck shed while i fuck your white women, cunts

>>41495890
I don't know about you, but I don't think of the process as a sacrifice. I enjoy lifting, running, calisthenics, sports in general, you name it.

I feel great and my health is great all the time. I'm agile and strong.

Why would I roid?

I exercise for health.
Steroids won't improve my health.

OP is, as usual, a faggot.

>>41496086
If you have low T it would be beneficial.

>>41495699
yeah won't be able to marry natsoc qt's, still can black them though.

>>41493746
Second.
If I found a reliable source, I would punch my natty v card.

>SIS Labs
>Reliable source

Fucking lol, legit SIS labs gear is underdosed without a doubt

>>41494794
eq is crap for how expensive it is
because it's so mild as a noob you'll notice fuck all gains from it, it's favoured by pros for maintenance at huge bodyweights that's where it's valuable, but plain gym rats with average bodies will see barely any results

>>41494055
you buy them where you buy everything else

I am twenty two. I'm still paranoid about being too young for roids, and am nowhere near my natural limit. Are these good reasons to not hop on for another few years?

>>41493746
I don't know where to get roids, and I graduate high school in a few weeks so I have no income to sustain a cycle. Besides I'm 19 so I'd fuck up any chance I have to grow a few more inches.

>>41494968
>host
>maybe acne if you already have crap genes, maybe balding if you already have crap genes, hypertension if you're already hpb
heart enlargement is reserved for lifetime users who bnc, cyclers are safe babby boy

>>41493746
honestly, the side effects sound scary
that is pretty much the only reason
also some kind of sene of pride for personal accomplishment but that is more of a minor secondary thing,

>>41496389
Nope

Im 18
Gonna start around 25 i think

>>41495267
if you're taking 300mg per week don't use arimidex
get aromasin since its milder, and you might not even need it at 300

>>41493746
bitch i donate plasma. I don't even feel those baby needles anymore

but yeah the second part is true.

>>41496389
its pretty commonly overdosed acutally, if not its at a minimum 95% if the stated dose

>>41493746
Aren't you supposed to maximize your natty potential before you get on gear?
Honestly considering it when I hit my goal lifts

>>41493746
I'm too much of a fatty, every time I ask for roid advice, all the /fraud/'s tell me to lose weight first.

:( But I wanna be thicc

Doing steroids with Ankylosing Spondiolitis a good or bad idea?

>>41496607
I wanna be like Hank Hill in that episode where Peggy is spiking his coffee.

plz help

will succ for dnp and melanotan source

>>41494675
A PO box and bitcoins my nigga

>>41494992
What a shitty, hollow response. You have no fucking idea how to answer his question, because you don't know anything about any which cycle, do you? Didn't stop you from railing against it, though. You are the true image of /fit/

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>>41493746
I have genetic heart problems :( can't basically do anything beyond preworkout

>>41495043
>Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others
Why do you assume that's the ultimate goal, and not simply a byproduct? Mental well being and improved physical performance are a far greater lure to some.
Why so butt blasted, anyway?

>>41493746
>because Im retarded and don't know what Im doing

>>41495865
Do you have any idea how much bullshit you have just chewed and spat out?
You cannot make absolute statements like this when it comes to roids, you ignorant, dancing monkey.
Some will come off worse after a cycle, some will return to their natty levels, and some will even have improved baseline test

Because I was born a fully functional male with no need to supplement. Once I 30ish and start declining I will reconsider.

>>41493746
I dont wanna lose my hair and im paranoid ill destroy my natural test production, red pill me

>>41497113
>mental well-being

Mate your mental well-being would be a lot better off if you cared not so much for attention and recognition, to the point of abusing your endocrine system .

>>41497237
Why be afraid on shuttin down natty test? If you go this route you stay on test forever.

I don't want the side effects.
Enjoy your acne and hair-loss bro.

>>4149725
What, until im 70? If I make it to 70.

>>41497254
Thats retarted and unhealthy
Cycling once in a while is better

>>41497260
You wont have those from running low-moderate doses.

>>41497283
>what is TRT

>>41497243
>f you cared not so much for attention and recognition
Did you even read my post, man?

>>41495043
lmao I roid and this is unfortunately true

>>41497293
but what if I do lol?
>decent natty gains, nice hair, nice skin, nice balls, nice mood
>try a test cycle
>bigger
>bald
>acne freak
>no balls
>bad temper
>bitchtits

>>41493746
#2

>>41497324
>bigger

Thats it. You dont get sides from test or mild compounds if you run em propperly.

>>41496528
Will do, thanks for the advice

>>41497305
its something that leaves you without natural test..

>>41497406
its better to stay on test anyway.

>>41497309
Yes I did. It read like being physically larger would somehow improve your mental well-being. To me it sounds like you are describing a positive mental effect from gathering more external attention. I don't know how else to read what you've written. Maybe you can help me here, I do want to understand.

>>41497614
no its not better to take test forever you fucking retard.

your supposed to cycle once in a while otherwise enjoy your enlarged heart, bladness , achne all over and ass cancer

>>41497615
I was speaking to the mental changes brought on by more test. As in, the physical impact on the brain. Increased confidence, more energy, greater memory and what have you

>>41497650
Oh, I will look more into that as Im not familiar. Thank you.

>>41497694
Alrighty, Anon. Stay informed

>>41497636
Ever heard of TRT you informed fucktard.

>>41496429
I value it for the low androgenic sides, quality gains and look it gives. Once I finish studying and get a job I will def run it.

>>41497709
ever heard TRT is supposed to keep your test levels at around natty?, anything above that is sides territory

also coming off if need be without shutting down is not gonna happen

>>41497786
Yeah you come "off" and stay at trt dose. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

And no sides if you go little above natty levels.

>>41493794
same

>>41494545
>>41494725
>>41495592
>>41495857
and that's why nobody will remember your name fags.

I'm scared of side effects and don't know enough to execute a perfect beginner cycle, and everyone says you should only rid to get passed your natural limit, and not to just speed up your results by a year. Plus yeah the sources thing.

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>>41495655
>Stay mad roid monkey


FUCKING KEK

>>41493996
This

>>41495695
subq works too