>"do you really have to check the number of calories

>>41491878
>not guesstimating
>not doing the ground work beforehand
>not checking the calories while you "got the toilet"

>>41491878
yes I do

Don't respond.

>>41491894
shouldn't have to hide checking your calories. shouldn't have to subject your goals to 3d roasties

>>41491878
>anon when we go out to eat for mothers day tomorrow just eat something and don't ask how many calories it is

>>41491878
>estimate before you go somewhere real quick
>keep it in mind for when you work out to balance it with your diet
>don't bother bringing it up

>>41491878

Because normal people are fat and weak.

>friends want to go to bar
>do a light lunch
>order diet soda and liquor drinks
>avoid fries/chips/shit that is all carbs
>get a burger and some wings
>don't give a shit because 1 day of eating kinda shitty won't kill you

Seriously not hard to control your diet and body while eating out if you just account for it and don't do it every single day

>>41491878
>every time we eat out
>implying
what is with this burger obsession of eating out? do you have any idea how much better quality food I can get for the same price?

>>41491927
>not making your success look effortless

Never gonna make it

>>41491979
Depends where you go, eating out is what girls like because there is no cleanup and you can relax. It also shows you have money and women can brag about where their man took them. That's most of what it amounts to.

>>41491979
what is with this europeans obsession of going to pubs? do you have any idea how much more and better beer I can get for the same price?

>>41492025
eh mate I have to say every single person I know prefers drinking outside or at someone's apartment/party over bars for this exact reason

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>>41491878

>>41491878
*grabs her by the throat
Back the fuck offf!?!?

>really? asking the server for a glass of milk?
this one actually happened

>>41492009
I guess it's just another reason to be glad I never associate with women

>>41491878
why is her head so fucking big

>>41491878
Its crazy to think that this creature shits, probably diarreah shits after her morning coffe too, can you imagine shit hanging out of her pretty face_ why are owmen so digsuting0

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>>41491878
I was hoping to see the .gif of that girl at in n out who was wearing a tube top and her friend pulls it down exposing her perky Californian titties

please deliver fit, you know what I'm talking about

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>"so i bought all this pizza home and you're not going to have any?"

>>41492775

I'm sorry dobby but I'm on a cut right now

>>41491878

BECAUSE I LEFT HUMANITY BEHIND YOU STUPID BITCH

>>41491878
>*look at her with a blank stare*
>*return to menu*

>>41492398
This is simultaneously disgusting and hot.

>>41491878
But my abnormality and above average qualities are the very reason you love me.

>>41492945
Low test

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>>41491878
No

>>41492025
Better than the beer made by friar Hansen, the german trappist monk with a blind eye?
I don't think so.

>>41491909
not gonna make it

>>41491909
Shouldn't be a literal autist who thinks one (1) meal will throw off your entire progress as well

>>41492074
Yeah, keep believing it's your choice

>>41491878

You guys do realize calorie counting is fucking stupid, considering that energy expenditure varies throughout the day and considering that the amount of "calories" that are stored into fat is dependent on the type of food you eat?

Like I can't believe you assholes are this autistic. Just eat food that makes you not compulsively crave.

>>41493604
CONT.

Not to mention that the body adjusts its metabolism in conjunction with food consumption.

At first it'll seem like you're losing a lot of weight fast but then metabolism adjusts to the amount eaten.

It's far more important to eat shit that makes you actually full. The golden rule is that it's easier to overeat on high-carb diets just as it's easier to under eat on high-protein diets.

>>41493604
>one calories
>two macros matter more
>two amount of calories you burn is fairly average on days you do and do not workout

if your way is so perfect post a current body pic you cocky ass...

>>41493623
cont your roast then

if your happy with your current BF cont on same calories
if your a lard ass lower calories continuously as you diet more.

you originally burn weight fast because 1 your losing water and 2 differentials.
if you are currently 220 lbs and are eating 250 calories below maintenance and drop to 200 lbs but continue the same calories you will not be 250 calories below maintenance anymore

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>>41491878
>because if I was a normal person you wouldn't be with me right now

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>>41491894
hol bitch I gotta toilet

>Look, if i don't try my best at what i'm doing, i'll feel inadequate, and frustrated. I won't be able to give my best to you either, and i want to treat you right, because i love you. I want to be there for you, but this is a two way thing.
Go home and fuck, then contemplate breaking up with her because she's a gains goblin.

Nobody can tell me I need to count calories if all I eat is omelette for breakfast, chicken tits for lunch, fish for supper and a proton shake.

Calorie counting is for people who just got into dieting to understand how much is too much.

>>41493703
>using legendarys
>not going to make it

>>41491878
Why the fuck does she notice?

This is classic anon
Talks. You never talk anon. He talks about fit shit. It backfires.
Depressing

>>41493624
>>41493643

People lose more weight on a low-carb diet with NO calorie restriction than on a reduced calorie no-fat diet.

It's almost as if your body processes different substances differently, even when comparing them on an isocaloric scale.

>>41493908

low-fat diet*

>>41493908

Example:

There is less energy surplus from digesting 100 calories of protein than digesting 100 calories of carbs.

I basically assume 1k cal or 1.5k if fast food anytime I eat out. Then you either don't eat anything caloric for the rest of the day, or you can eat normally and slowly drop the pound or two you got from eating out over the course of a week.

"In biochemistry, a calorie is a calorie. In nutrition, not" - William Lagakos

High-protein diet = leaner without a negative energy balance.

>>41491878
TOOT TOOT NOT GONNA MAKE IT

Total energy expenditure is increased in high-protein diets as compared to high-carb diets. Which makes sense.

Takes more to digest protein and, in turn, protein activates the satiety signal with less calories than high-carb diets which reduce levels of leptin (critical in telling the brain that amount consumed is enough).

Example: by changing diet composition from 17% to 23%, subjects lost two pounds of fat and gained a pound of muscle.

Citation: Larsen, Dalskov, et. al 2010

>>41493982
protein diet composition from 17% to 23%*

This of course is over a period of 6 months.

Now fucking tell me how a calorie is equivalent to a calorie when the body acts differently according to macro composition?

>>41491878

Who are you?

>>41493942
>Eating out
>Drop one or two pounds from the food you ate

So it is true: this site really is just full of fat shots that don't lift.

Yes because it tells me how much more protein and how many more calories i'll need to take in later on

>>41493725
He is on to something here

>>41493992
They mean calories gained from, right?

"The people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active"

(Castelli 1992)

Study began in 1950s and is still running.

>>41494021

Yes. So 17% of calories from protein to 23% of total calories from protein.

The "Spanish Paradox"

Increasing consumption of red meat and fish while decreasing consumption of wheat, whole grains, and carbohydrate -rich foods resulted in reduced mortality from heart disease and stroke.

>>41493999
I think we forgot to take into consideration that some food take more effort to digest. E.g it harder and requires more energy to digest meat then cooked soft potato or flour.
Even when preparing identical food like raw vrs cooked and blended apples. Cooking and prossesing the apple before your eat increase the ease of digestion and cost of unlocking the calories. I think its almost 30% more for said apple

>>41492398
Lol at all the cellulite and that flabby mess. And to think this is what all those muh high test grill threads are about. Lol get fucked. This picture clearly shows that there is a difference between a squat grill's bubble butt and a fat chicks lard ass.

Get cucked betas

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>>41491878
"Be a normal human being" she says...

I hope she has a nice feminine penis.

>>41493942
>gaining a pound or two from eating out one time
u wot?

>>41493703
good team

>>41491973
As usual the only sensible reply in the entire thread is ignored

Stop being such a little queerfuck and get a haircut you homo!!

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>>41493170
>trap monks
Thats my fetish

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Are carbs truly that evil?

Pic related my macros for Wednesday. Is this bad that carbs are an equal proportion?

>>41491878
Shes looks like one those those girls that gets 90% of her calories from Starbucks then eats salad all day anyway.

>>41494376
sounds like IIFYM to me

>>41494365

The problem is that most western carbs are shit. Syrups and grains = shit.

Fruit = okay.

>But my whole-wheat bread...

is fucking shit which promotes insulin resistance.

>>41494422
Fugg

Are rice and beans shit carbs?

>>41491878
why the fuck would you diet to the exact calorie. fuck me

>>41492775
is this photoshopped?

>>41491973

This guy gets it

>>41494444

Rice = shit carb unless you're SEA because they process it differently than most other groups.

Beans = awesome. If you're vegan/vegetarian, it should be a daily staple. Along with mixed nuts.

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>>41494463
What if i buy completely whole black rice which hasn't had the husk removed?

Thank god i love beans, i try to avoid carbs, end up having them mostly by coincidence. Like I onky had beans for the slight protein increase it made to the meal.

>>41494454
t. brainlet

>>41494488

1 slice of bread, small cup of rice = tolerable levels of a shit carb

Waffles with syrup = ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>41493908
>low carb
>no fat
>keto
>gluten free
>vegan
>paleo
>this week's women's magazine diet award

HOW ABOUT YOU FUCKING EAT PROPERLY NIGGER?

>>41493919
Converting protein to stored energy burns about 20% of the calories but you're not converting the food you eat on a cut into stored energy so it doesn't fucking matter. Get 0.9-1g per lb bodyfat protein to make room for small miscalculations, eat 50 grams of fat and the rest carbs, however many calories you have left.

>>41493604
post body or kys

>>41494540
>HOW ABOUT YOU FUCKING EAT PROPERLY NIGGER?

What is proper in a society which feeds everyone shit food and shit advice?

>>41494422
>fruit
>okay

100% simple carbs

>whole grain bread
>promotes insulin resistance

Contains fibre, and almost 100% complex carbs.

Shut the fuck up. You can get diabetes from fruit just as easily as if you ate sugary garbage instead. It's happened countless times.

>>41494444
Eat your fucking rice, legumes and potatoes and don't listen to these retards. If you want to get big, eat buckets of that shit. If it say complex carb on the packet, you eat, if it says sugar, you don't eat. It's that simple

>>41494569

There's a tribe called the Kitavans. Their diet is 70% carbs BUT the carbs are low in (raw) sugars and grains. They stay lean because of two factors: No (raw) sugars and grains and far less imbalance in omega-6 to omega-3 ratios in their diets.

They maintain a very high insulin sensitivity and remain lean despite 70% carb diet.

>>41491878
Sarah Snyder probably starves herself

>>41494540
>paleo

Pisses me off so much. Your diet would be mostly meat and some fucking berries and nuts.

>>41494561
Figure out your macros, hit your protein and fat goals, fill the rest of the calories with complex carbs. This is all you need to make gains.

To keep yourself healthy, don't touch trans fat, eat a good amount of vegetables in order to get your micronutrient requirements, supplement if you have to, snack on fruit, or don't snack at all and get some quality omega 3 fats somehow so that your joints don't hurt, the amount you should eat per day is in the sticky, again, supplement if you have to.

As long as you fit your macros and eat clean you will almost always be fulfilling all these requirements. Eating clean means you eat lean meat, complex carbs, zero foods containing trans fat, and a decent amount of fruit and vegetables. If you overdo fruit you'll have low energy because you'll be consuming simple carbs as most of your carbs. If you overdo vegetables you'll shit 3 times a day because too much fibre but that's not really a problem unless you really fucking overdo it.

>>41494612

And in high-protein diets, you don't need as much before leptin signals satiety.

How could this piss you off so much?

>>41494623
CONT.

Hell meat, nuts, and berries. that's a fantastic diet. What is pissing you off so much?

>>41494605
That's exactly what I'm fucking advocating for nigger. Eat your damn rice, beans, lentils and potatoes. You will have a solid slow burning energy source and you will not experience insulin spikes.

I don't know where this fucking white rice is bad for you meme started but to this very day my babushka makes her own damn rice and I'm telling you for a fact she doesn't have the resources to create anything "processed". I'm pretty sure they just grind the brown casing off it.

>>41494641
>don't know where this fucking white rice is bad for you meme started

Did you read the part where the Kitavans eat virtually no grain?

What do you think rice is?

>>41494634
Because thats not what they fucking eat on a paleo diet. They eat shitloads of vegetables that weren't even available to us during the paleolithic.

>>41494607
she is /fit/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR6kB8HF9xf/?taken-by=kirkmyersfitness

>>41494654

Stop being autistic. Paleo is less a reproduction of a single culinary culture than the wisdom that sugars and grains are shit for you, in general.

>>41494653
CONT.
Tubers, Fresh Fruit, Coconut and Fish.

Notice the lack of grains in that list. SEAs may have different metabolic and digestive adaptations to rice consumption.

>>41494653
I'm sorry, I misread your post because I didn't think you were retarded enough to tell me rice is a fast burning energy source. Read the label, it's common knowledge that rice is made up of complex carbs.

If you want to debate glycemic index numbers I'm out, I don't subscribe to autistic min-maxing. Even if you find some criteria that makes rice marginally worse than potatoes and legumes, it makes no practical difference to anybody and you're just doing it to make yourself feel smarter.

The fact that you genuinely believe berries cause less of an insulin spike than rice given equal calories makes me believe you were dropped at birth. Paleo and all your shit meme diets are cancer because someone not doing paleo can eat exactly the same food you eat and more. Your shitty arbitrary fad diet rules do not include every beneficial food source on the planet.

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>have fwb
>she used to be like OP, skinnyfat is too
>Convinced her to start counting calories and lifting
>Can now squat 1.25 pl8 a bit past parallel, diddly almost 1.75 pl8, bench is still .5 pl8 though
>she is probably more autistic with counting calories than me
>seems like she actually cares now, is visibly frustrated when she fails a set, see her on /r/fitness sometimes on her phone
Should I just GF her. I've been friends with her for a year now and fwb for a couple of months, it'd be weird just suddenly changing up the dynamic.

>>41494696
see
>>41494687

But other than that, Papau New Guinea should be nuked because the cultures are the embodiment of some nightmarish tribal dystopia where virtually everyone gets raped at some point in their life.

>>41494713
Fresh fruit will give you diabetes if you eat it as a primary source of carbs. If you were to replace tubers with rice nothing would change.

>>41494738

Wouldn't tubers have substantially more fiber?

>>41494744
Sure but almost 10% of the carbs in brown rice are already fibre, and you overstate the need for fibre anyway. If you're eating any bananas or veg you have more than enough of it, it's not like fibre is some magical nutrient that gets more powerful as you eat more of it.

>>41494762

Well fiber helps moderate the glycemic spikes that one would expect in a high-carb diet.

Brown rice though...hmmm. Need to do more research.

>>41494801
Citation? Foods that contain fibre usually have that effect when switching from a typical american fatass diet of simple carbs, but I've never heard of fibre explicitly reducing insulin spikes when consumed as part of a diet exclusively containing complex carbs. The whole point of eating rice, potatoes and legumes is to not have spikes in the first place.

>>41494850

No citation but the more I think about it, the more I intuit that a certain dimension needs to be added to a diet.

That since humanity has been through a world of seasons, diets may need to be "cycled" every few months. Please tell me if I'm being retarded for pointing out the obvious.

But now I have to do research on that facet in case it proves fruitful.

>>41492792
Kek

Once you free yourself from the stupid marketing idea that is "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" you can start to eat properly.

By skipping breakfast (doing IF) you;

>reduce the amount of carbs you get (from shit like cereal, bread etc.)
>have one or two meals that are high in calories that keep you full
>avoid eating shit

Basically if you skip breakfast, you don't really need to count calories as long as you don't eat like shit. Added low carb is a bonus

>>41493749
>proton shake
No worrying about carbs if you turn all your carbon into nitrogen amirite buddy

>>41494490
It's a meme you dip

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>>41491878
>Year of our lord Jesus Christ 2000 + 17
>Dating entitled roasties when you could date someone who gets you, your goals, and supports them

"I already accounted for this one today. Go ahead and have a few more if you want, we'll burn it off later ;) "

>>41494712
Do it

>>41491878
She is so beautiful.
I want her to look at me with disdain forever.

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>>41493703
>hitmonchan
>gen 3 elemental punches

big franchise restaurants where i live are required to put calorie counts on their menus

Who knows how accurate it is but that's secretly why I always suggest those places when people ask me to go out anywhere

>>41495222
Jeremy pls go

being healthy and getting in shape caused my gf to break up with me

it was worth it though

>>41494712

Of course you should you idiot. You not doing so is what leads to broken women.

>>41492068
>bitching about you getting milk
Dodged a bullet there m80

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>>41495223
How the fuck do I bring it up
Nervous af as she is my first kiss, fug and probably gf if it works out, at fucking 24 (not counting online shit that doesn't count), she also knows all this.

>>41491878
>I don't, baby. I can roughly tell how much calories everything has by eyes.

>>41495846
Be honest and dont bull shit her. Just put it all on the line.

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>>41495846

If she knows all that and is still with you she wants to be with you. Don't even bother talking about it or putting a name on it. Just fuck her the way a man should fuck a woman, spend time with her, be her friend, and at some point tell her you love her. It's literally that simple. Do all that, and you'll be set for life. Speaking from experience, pic related.

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>>41492068
>really? asking the server for a glass of low-fat milk?

>>41491973
>>41491943
Obviously you don't have to be totally autistic about it. An imprecise day here and there won't kill you.

BUT I'm not going to be unfit just because it makes some bitch feel bad about herself. This is important to me and part of who I am. If she's regularly a pain in the ass about it I'd have an adult conversation with her when we're home about it. My counting calories literally doesn't affect her at all. If she can't accept that I want to better myself and that self-improvement takes work our values are not compatible.

I've had that exact convo with a few girls and dumped them for being lifestyle goblins (not gains goblins per se, but definitely dumped bitches for not being able to accept that I work hard). Fortunately found a supportive waifu.

>"do you really have to have me pay for you food every time we eat out? why can't you just be a normal human being?"

>>41494712
If you like her make it serious. Girls eventually leave guys who jerk them around. Why do you think Single Ladies was such a big hit?
Just have an adult conversation with her and say you want to be a real couple. It will sound silly and be awkward but it'll be good in the long run.

>>41491878
For some reason her arms bother me

>>41491973
So many autists need to understand this.
Having a feeding schedule is fine, but if you treat it like some sort of holy law then you're retarded. Just change shit around, skip breakfast or lunch and gobble down a burger with friends at night.

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>>41491878
>>41491950
came here to post this
DO I LOOK LIKE A "NORMAL HUMAN" TO YOU?
DO YOU WANT A SOFT CHUBBY BETA?
OH THAT'S RIGHT YOU LOVE MY RIDICULOUSLY LOW BF AND SICKENING DEFINITION SO STFU

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>>41492775

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>>41491973
>Planned on going to buffet on Mother's day
>Starve myself until buffet
>End up eating around 13 pieces of sushi, some chicken teriyaki/parm/bbq, small amount of lo mein, fried rice, 1 piece of lamb & steak, 3 pcs calamari, salmon, and ice cream.
D-did I overdo it.

>>41491878
But I don't - I take a small portion and taste it first, analyzing the possible ingredients and their amounts, then (over)estimating their caloric value.

I'm only exact when cooking for myself and/or eating out alone

>>41493003
>t. beta

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>>41493725
>Listen little baby, you're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that aint what I'm about.

>You're perfect the way you are. You hear me, sugar? Perfect. You deserve everything and anything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>MFW thinking about you hurting

>>41493999
We say this to obeast and skellies because they don't need to focus on anything in particular, just eating more/less.

>>41493725
Underrated.
Also you gotta leave gains goblins behind. They don't just gobble your physical gains but stop you from being your best self. First it's "come on, don't count calories," then it's "come on, you don't have to work so hard," or "it's just a little debt, baby."

Yes, 5-10 minutes of enjoyment is worth ruining something I have to walk around with 24/7. Food should be looked at as fuel, not just for gluttony

>>41493541
>one (1)
lol

>>41496480
fucking beat me to it

>>41496671
As my Italian SIL says: a minute on the lips, a lifetime on the hips

>>41491878
>restaurants not telling you the calorie count on the menu

>>41491894
>"got the toilet"
You ESLs crack me up sometimes.

>>41491878
>he doesn't check the number of calories every time he eats her out

>>41496510
You underdid it if anything. A buffet is a challenge to bankrupt the restaurant pretty much.

>>41496705
It's always fatasses who say that.

>>41496805
Yep, was going to say this

>>41496510
Done goofed.

>>41493703
>legendaries
>hitmonchan gen 3

Put this up on /v/ or that pokemon board and people will roast you to oblivion. Other than that quite solid. Not amazing but solid.

>friends or girlfriend want to go out eat
>be cutting
>fast the night before and the entire day of so I can eat whatever the hell I want at the dinner
Feels good.

Intermittent fasting with one cheat day every 7 days allows one to do anything.

>>41491973
I think it's less an issue of autism and more that most people lack the discipline to practice moderation. They are only capable of either following their cut down to the last calorie or binging until they're fat.

>>41493908

> tfw that wouldn't work with me
> Would consume 8000 + cals if given no restriction.

I-I'll just stick with my calorie counting then..

>>41497488
Start IF you dummy head.

>>41496356
They're emaciated. No muscle tone.

>>41494376
>>41495243
>>41494661
She looks so much like my ex in the OP image, it was starting to be uncomfortable. It's good to know she's not that similar.

>>41491973
>diet soda
kys my man

>>41497610
can you fuck off with this meme
>>41497488
just do what you know works, instead of doing some momscience meme diet

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>>41493703
Rate my party /fit/

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>>41493695

>>41491878
>telling people about calories or macros
>actually actively counting calories and not just estimating based on your experience
You're either a noob, someone who didn't get the memo that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference or a professional bodybuilder. Either way don't be a fussy bitch and participate in social events without looking like a total autist.

>>41491878
Top 1% is not normal.

>>41500173
Noob here. I've gotta count so I can get a solid idea of what's what in the future.

But yeah I get what you're saying. You can adjust for social situations if you're not a retard.

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How the fuck do normies live without counting calories and nutrients? My body would be totally fucked up if I didn't.

>>41496805
don't you mean very much, mr. vollmer?

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>>41499945
>Aggron
The most alpha of Pokemon

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>>41491878
>2017
>NOT LEAVING HUMANITY BEHIND

>>41491894
>got the toilet

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>>41491878
Human being?!?

>>41491894
>bill arrives
>gf reaches for her toilet
>no babe
>i got the toilet

>>41494621
>Eating clean means you eat lean meat, complex carbs, zero foods containing trans fat, and a decent amount of fruit and vegetables

Outdated bro-nutrition, the post.

>>41499945
>Flygon
my man

>>41501842

no retard when you go to buy a toilet it comes with a book containing the nutritional info of all foods including restaurants so you can plan ahead of time for optimal shits

>>41494634
People have an autistic fixation on the 'paleo' name.

"CAVEMEN DIDN'T GET TO EAT STEAK EVERYDAY!!!11!!1!"

They will never understand that it's not about recreating ACTUAL dietary habits of cavemen. It's about eating pre-agricultural foods, but it's lost on them.

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Never understood A) why shit like this bothers some women, B) why they don't comprehend the idea of just letting it go instead of stirring shit over something harmless, and C) why dudes choose to date chicks that nag them about inane bullshit that doesn't affect the woman in the slightest (or even affects them positively, such as you staying in optimal/most attractive physical condition).

No puss is worth your dignity.

Fucking gain goblin, they Dont want you to make it