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What is the ideal age to move out of your parents house? I'm

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What is the ideal age to move out of your parents house? I'm 21 and living with them is getting unbearable. They are preventing my gains and any sort of quality of life.
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Love your parents, they might not do a good job but they still care about you
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must suck to have shit parents
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>>41488763
This, but also, it's time for you to move out.
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16 If you're smart.
If you're not smart never ever since you save so much on rent and probably food it's not funny.
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Im still at home at 25 and it feels good tbhfam
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>>41488756
20
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>>41488756
i feel you man
>25
>no license
>no car
>still live at home

my self confidence is so fucking low now. I used to live on my own in a different town but came back because I have a 3 year old sister and I help take care of her now.
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>>41488756
18 if you are financially well enough to do so 21 is pushing it.
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>>41488778

i think you meant to say ever if you are a plebian cuck and never if you are a elite superior gentlemen
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>>41488756
I'm working from home at 24 and it's fine tbqh. I'm saving money though thinking about moving out with my gf
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>24
>well paying job
>own a car
>still live at home
Fucking California even on $25/h it's not worth moving out.
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>>41488807
Dont feel bad. I make 50/hr and i still live at home. Cali is expensive man
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>>41488807
what you dont like paying $1200 a month for just rent? you dont like paying 2x as much for your food,gas,utility,etc? gosh you lazy mellanials WORK A JOB YOU BUM
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>>41488807
>tfw scraping by at $25 in CA
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>>41488832
Fuck I could afford it but at this point why bother. Instead I'm saving 25% of my paycheck in various ways like Roth IRA, 401k, ESPP, and normal investments. Might as well live at home forever.
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>>41488876
yeah for me moving out was also a mistake i can already move back they said but mom is dating black guys and dad is divorced....so im just gonna not do that
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>>41488832
Where is rent only $1,200? I want to live there.
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>>41488756
Do girls care if you still live at home? Like if you're hitting it off with a chick but she lives with her friends and you live at home, will she care?
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I live near Washington DC and pay 1700 a month
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>>41488908
It probably doesn't look too great.
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I pay 900 a month for a studio with roaches in the ghetto in California. Make $13.70. Kill me.
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>>41488909
>ma nigga
I'm at $2k per month in the DC area. Worth it, right?
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>>41488908
One night stands who cares. Girlfriend though, yes, it matters
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>>41488896
last i heard from my gram it was that a couple years ago
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If you aren't a poor cuck or a dumb cuck 18 when you go to live on campus
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>>41488908
Depends entirely on the girl. I live at home and still have a gf.
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honestly, moving out at 18 and having to struggle to pay the bills for years made me the man i am today -- gave me a lot of drive to kickstart my career
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>>41488967
Why do all Americans go to live in campus? Here they literally don't exist, I go to university in public transport
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>>41488985
Because most states in the US are bigger than European countries and students move to whatever university accepted them.
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Im turning 26 in less than a month, honestly where i live, house prices are ridiculous so living at home with rents a little while longer is not really frowned upon. However, i just finished a fuckton a school work, and got into a same field as my rents, but its driving me absolutely insane dealing with my mom, im legit losing sleep over it because she still thinks she can control my life, i absolutely have no say in anything and disregards any opinion i have so i grew up without a voice to heard. I just learned to ignore her as much as i can and save up enough to move the fuck away. After that i can definitely try rebuilding my relationship with her, but right now it is a nightmare and want to cover her face with a pillow every night
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>>41488967
and what happens when you get your degree, genius?
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>>41489056
You use your degree in engineering to get a well paid job
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>>41489037
dude, just move out and get a roommate or two if necessary -- roughly where do you live?
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>>41488756
I moved out at 25. I am miserably poor as a result.
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>>41488756
just one or 2 generations back it was normal to move out at 16-18.
Now all 30 year olds stay home and talk about their "shit" parents on 4chan and reddit.
What is this world coming to?
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>>41489012
I think what he means is the campus vs specialized student houses thing
in europe, normal family homes are converted to "student houses", which house around 4-8 people. Each room is basically converted into a bedroom, and kitchen and bathrooms are shared
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>>41488756
Currently living with them now. Getting my master's and working at 23 isn't too bad.
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>>41488896
>>41488930
Live in cheaper areas, the catch 22 is generally there are no jobs

I'm in Canada Windsor and rent is 550-600/mo you go north of Toronto and its 1500-1800mo
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>>41489037
Dude leave immediately. Start taking necessary steps, like fucking tomorrow. You don't want to resent your mother more than you already do. I went through similar shit and after moving out we are much much muuuuch cooler with each other now. Save your relationship now dude or will you face the ultimate regret.
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>>41489112
no government grant if you have a lower income? could save you like 200 a month
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I did it at 16, your way late.
be ashamed.
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>>41489112
I might do that. It might be good to not be paying $2k per month in rent but have a longer commute. Maybe.
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>>41488756
>Left home at 26
>Not proud of it but things happened and I lived at home for a while
>Thing is the earlier you move out the harder and actually healthier your life begins
>Living at home with parents and siblings keep you in a childish mentality
>I learned the most about life moving two thousand miles away from home and starting my life on my own
>Successful these days, and I think its only because I was forced to be alone and figure it out
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>>41489189
pretty similar story here famalam
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>>41489067
>implying everyone who goes to uni is employable
not the issue but living at home is fucking fine, your parents are probably dreading the day you leave them (unless you've got hallow murkan parents). only downside is you can't bring girls back to fuck and have to adhere to house rules.
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Guys I get the "save money on rent" meme but this is pure suffering me. I fuxking hate it!

I need a new fresh start.
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>>41489258
What's up, whats your current situation?

Do you work, go to school have any short and maybe long term goals for life?

When you wake up, what do you do?
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>>41489267
Work min wage job and lift.

I do nothing else.
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>>41488756
I'm about to be 23.
No degree and work a whatever job.
I sort of don't really care anymore.
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You should move out as soon as you start full time work. Currently 22 and waiting to start my postgrad degree, then I'm gone for good.
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>>41488756

I'm 23. I'd say the last straw would be 27-29. You wouldn't want to be a 30 year old man living with his parents.

I don't know why I'm compelled to write these useless comments. Is it altruism? I fucking hate this website. God dammit I can't leave. I can only limit myself a few minutes a day.

Hopefully I can finally let go.
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>>41489703
I turned 30 3 months ago. I work 40 hours a week doing construction at $14 / hr. I live with parents, havent been laid in 10 years. Dont turn out like me bros. All I have is masturbation and jogging
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My parents said I can stay with them until I get married/settle down.

Probably gonna keep living them even when I make 100k+ to help put my siblings through school and help out around the house.

You guys really should consider helping out at home once you've made it financially.
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>>41488788
you don't even have a license? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>41488908
It doesn't matter if you're Chad. Women really would rather fuck Chad living in his moms basement than some ugly gymcel with his own apartment or house.
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I moved out at 17. I lived with my grandmother for a year then lived in dorm at uni until I could afford my own place.
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>18
>thinking about joining military since I have no clue what I want to do with my life
>parents tell me to go to school
>forget to tell me that they can't pay for school
>drop out 2 years in because parents refuse to help pay
>join national guard to pay for my tuition
>away from home for a year doing training
>enroll in classes
>parents now hinting that I need to move out
>literally making college unaffordable again
>both older siblings got college done with, no worries
>last child gets shit on because parents literally cannot think 4 years into the future
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My parents house is a fat 6 bedroom place.
I could move out into some squalid apartment more centrally in the city but why? The air quality alone is better here and my gym is a 15 minute run away
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>>41488756
18 at the latest desu. If you aren't physically or mentally retarded then there is no fucking reason to stay at home after 18. Why would you even want to? I love my parents but I couldn't stand having them controlling my life so I left a few weeks after turning 18.
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When you guys say you can't bring women back to fuck at your parents house, do you mean the woman won't want to go, or do you mean your parents won't allow it?

My parents are all for that and wouldn't mind at all if I brought a woman home to fuck.
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>>41489237
If you aren't employable after Uni there is no fucking hope for you. Either your grades were shit which is your own fault, or you picked a useless degree which again is your own fault.
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>>41489999
You moved out at the point where parents stop controlling your lives. I'm 29 and still at home and they stopped telling me what to do the day I turned 18. I haven't moved out because there's no point. I'll move out if I get married to a good girl, until then I'm hoarding money so I can buy a home in cash.
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>>41490027
even a 'useless' degree can get you a job if youre even the slightest bit confident in an interview. I have a degree in history and I work in financial services
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>>41490038
How much do you have saved up already?
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I'm 26, moved out at 22

My parents are cool and sometimes I wonder why I moved out. It seems like all I've done is throw away thousands of dollars in rent and bills
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>>41490055
Little under $250k.

I've saved about 25k/year for a home, and made extra contributions to my retirement fund.

Been thinking about buying investment property but I can't be fucked dealing with that shit, so I'm just gona keep saving and buy in an area ill wanna live for a long time.
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>>41489999

Nah, not these days.

You're already guaranteed student debt, to have difficulty finding a job, and then should you achieve a job you'll be paid significantly less than the previous generations.

Then you consider the housing prices are skyrocketing but aren't scaling with wages. That the majority of millennials will never earn enough to actually buy a home.

Basically, you're fucking yourself in the ass if you willingly put MORE financial stress on yourself.

Our generation has taken the punch for the one before it, we're cut off and expected to fund social services and to do so with no support, act accordingly.
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>>41490088
Oh yeah, my parents have never charged me rent or anything. They love having me around and love the idea that I've made myself financially secure. I could literally become a NEET for 20 years right now before the money runs out.
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>>41488756
Never. Just inherit the house when they die.

>Wasting ~$300k of your lifetime earnings because of a social stigma

I have a full-time job and will continue to live with my parents as long as they let me even if my income improves. With all the extra money I save, I contribute to the family by buying groceries, paying for home improvements, buying new appliances when something breaks, helping out with my sister's college, helping with my parents' medical bills, and being essentially an "emergency fund" for my family because I built up a huge cash buffer and can put down thousands without warning.

It started out as temporary arrangement to get established and pay down some student loans, but I don't see a reason to ever stop. Maybe one day if I have a student loan paid off, car paid off, and enough cash to buy a house then I'll consider moving out... but other than that it's just a flat waste of money.

Multi-generational households are the way to go and are a hella efficient way to live. Humans are a tribal species. Don't fall for the housing jew. American baby boomers are the only generation in human history to just up and leave their families behind at 18 and somehow they've convinced us all that that's normal and expected of every generation. They're an exception, not the rule.
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>>41490154
Although I agree with what you said about staying home, what you said about multi generational households is incorrect.

Historical records show as far back from 1700s to early 1900s that the most common house hold was single generation. People moved out of their parents place and started working very early. By 16-18 most people had already established their own home and family,
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>>41488756

I moved out on the day of my high school graduation. Haven't spoken to a single member of my family since. I am 32.
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>>41490154
This also requires having a cool family. Best of luck to you guys with raging narcissists or controlling Christian fundamentalists for parents.
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>>41490154
Kind of retarded how you downplay it as merely a "social stigma" issue. There's loads of other reasons to move out.
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>>41490201
>these are the kinds dysfunctional people from dysfunctional homes making fun of happy people for still living at home in their happy families
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>>41490220

I'm not dysfunctional. I worked and got an engineering degree, married with 2 sons and a daughter, and perfectly happy. My life is great.
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>>41490154
>>41490215
In my case: I have to pay for my own food and share of utilities, so I'm only really saving on rent - which is essentially rooming with a bunch of people I don't get along with. We've literally gotten into an argument every week or two for the last few years.

Also my parents house is in a shitty area with little economic opportunity for decent jobs in my field, so I have to commute a long time to work when I could be living closer.

Tell me again how living on my own is "le boomer jew meme"?
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>>41490234
And your kids will never know your side of the family and it will forever be an awkward and sensative topic and your kids will forever feel like they're different to everyone else for not knowing half their family. I can only imagine how bad it will be for them if your wife has also done the same as you by cutting all contact with her family aswell.
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>>41490237
Well?

Give me one good reason why I should live with my parents when it harms my social life, raises my stress and cucks me in terms of economic opportunity?

>inb4 u save money
Tell me what fucking good money is when I can't spend it to enjoy myself.

Am I going to get buried with millions of dollars? Why work at all if spending some money to vastly improve your quality of life is bad?
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>>41490262
this is true. my dad went no contact on my grandmother after my grandfather died and when she passed last year I was actually pissed off at the fact I didnt even care. I should have cared goddamit!
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>>41490262
What is your point?

What if his family is degenerate as fuck?(which it likely is - people don't cut contact with their family over nothing). Should he be associating with his degenerate family or branching out on his own with his wife and kids?
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>>41490309
He left at 18 as a bitter angst faggot. Then 14 years went by and he stopped seeing his family probably because of some shitty teenager reasons and now since he knows he fucked up he has to rationalise his decision.
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>>41490262

Oh no, my children will never have terrible people in their lives despite the fact they share blood. How tragic. You're a fag dude. I'm not some edgy teenager. I had my reasons, and I'm happy. If I'm happy, I did the right thing. Also, why would my wife cut her family out of her life? My wife doesn't come from a shitty family. It's actually really nice. No bitching and complaining about who's parents we spend Christmas or thanksgiving with, life is pretty simple that way. My kids know why they will never know their uncle or grandparents on my side. You make it sound like the end of the world, or that life can't possibly be worth living without your family in it. Were you breastfed into your teenage years? It seems you are taking the NEET never leaving home meme a little far.
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>>41490344
You're on 4chan despite having a wife and kids.

Something about that tells me you're not entirely happy with your life. How fat is your wife?
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>>41490342

>bitter angst faggot

See, this is why you're dumb. You have no idea what I have been put through. You think you do, because your life has been easy. Not everyone has an easy life or parents who treat their children like they are actually human. You must be very sheltered.
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>>41490362

Not fat at all. I leave home for work. 2 weeks on, two weeks off. It sucks being away from home, but the money is over double what I would make coming home every night, so we will put up with it for another 5 years. Plus my union pension is getting really fat. That will be nice to fall back on.
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took me until 23. was ready at 22 but it took a while to find the right place.

if you're done with school and well employed, then you should be all set.
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>>41490342
You don't even know his situation, you're a huge faggot just like the rest of the retards ITT saying "I get along great with my parents and live in a place close to my job! I don't get what the big deal for you guys is!"

Is it that hard to imagine some people don't get along with their parents? Parents can be cancerous and hold you back too. There's many cases where there's no way you would ever speak to a person if they behaved like one's parents. So why is cutting them off so bad?

Seriously how are you guys so fucked that you don't realise that people have different families? If living with your parents at 35 works for you, COOL DUDE I'm glad. But what is with this "Assuming everyone's family is like theirs" crap?
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>>41490237
>>41490277
Well?

Can someone chime in. Explain to me why I should live with my parents.
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>>41490402
I don't really trust the opinion of an 18 year old faggot. Maybe you were just a little emotional shit and your view of your family was coming from that perspective of a little ignorant shit.

An 18 year old will have a completely different relationship with their parents at 21 and 25 etc. if you were 18 and just booked out you were still a kid and had no real perspective of your family because you were still a angst teen.
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>>41490477
You're an adult at 18 and have lived with your parents for nearly two decades. I think you can make a decision whether they're harming/holding you back or helping you.
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>>41490384
>union pension at 32
Dude try harder
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>>41488794
This. I began buying odds and ends for my apartment when I turned 17. Silverware, towels, toaster...basically anything that you forget about when you move out. When I turned 18 I left and didn't have to spend what very little disposable income I had on that stuff. Time to get planning, OP.
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wtf are idiots doing going to post secondary without scholarships its like you want to have arrested development and become a debtcuck
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>>41488756
whenever you get into university so probably 18-20

if you don't plan on going to university you're white trash and>>41488756
I can't give you advice
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>>41490648

Are you regarded? How do you think people get pensions? By paying into them. I'm paying into my pension, just like everyone else who has one. When I retire, I will collect it, just like everyone else who has one. You're pretty stupid, huh?
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>>41490744

This might be the dumbest post in the thread. People with a mountain of student debt they can't pay picked degrees with little or no job opportunities. Anyone who's not an idiot would look at the job market when deciding what they will study.
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>>41490797
>calls a post dumb then says exactly the same thing I did but more autistically


thanks for the input adam lanza
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>>41490438
just move out already you idiot. if it's a stupid decision to live with them then don't do it.
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>>41490776
Show us a picture of your wife's titties, cucknigger
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>>41490776
you're pretty optimistic about your pension. hopefully it isn't a shitty insolvent one.
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>if going to college & parents are "rich"
Milk them for all their worth

>if going to college & parents are "poor"
18

>Not going to college & parents are "rich"
16

>Not going to college & parents are "poor"
ASAP
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27 kissless virgin.

Could probably buy a modest house in cash now but what's the point. It would help me land a 6/10 gf that is nearing the wall and looking for security but I'd rather live at home and eat mommies tendies and support my gambling addiction.

It does get hard living with other adults though, but you just got block out the emasculating feelings and desire for independence among other things and think of the benefits.
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>>41488756
thera is no ideal age. move out whenever youre ready
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>>41491033
kys

Your mother is dying a slow death, watch her seed waste.
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>>41488756
>not moving out at 18 like a grown ass man who can handle being an adult.
Pathetic.
Although, im not sure why i expect anything more from people of the chan.
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>>41489703
It's easier to let go if you only start going to boards that peak your interest and come to realize soon thereafter that 4chan is a shitty place to get information.
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>>41488756
18-19
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>>41489999
The question is when you want them to control your life. Moving out at 18 sounds nice and all, and it is. But unless you secure yourself a stable job/income/partner/spouse it's more or less guaranteed you're going to have to rely on your parents again financially.
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>>41491054
I can't tell if this is the case or not.

On one hand she always gives me shit for not having a gf, practically on a daily basis she will tell me a story about some fat fuck she met at Walmart with a 9/10 girlfriend. But whenever I hint that I might move out she gets really upset and asks me not to leave.
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>>41489760
I'm like you bro just hang in there.

33 living at home with parents
work construction but at $30/h
haven't had a gf in over 8 years just escorts once in a while

the only upside is that I'm saving to buy a house all on my own.
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>>41491033
>Nearing the wall
What? You're a man you spineless faggot. You can pick up barely legal women for the rest of your life you useless piece of shit.
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>>41488756
I think it depends on if you go to college or not. You should be moved out by 22 at the absolute latest, probably earlier.
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Is renting with a roommate friend more efficient than just renting alone? We each pay half of the rent, and can keep more of our own income, right?
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>>41491196
sounds like you two have some boundary/dependency issues
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>>41491379
probably, but if they're wasteful and you upgrade to a nicer and bigger place that's more expensive, you might save less than you expect. should still save unless your roommate is a useless financial goblin.

personally, I'm willing to pay a small premium to live solo. less hassle, more privacy for me and my anime body pillows.
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>>41491259
You that same cunt who puts his parents in a nursing home lickety split, aren't you.
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>>41488756

personal decision and also depends on the cultural customs in your country.
If they are unbearable that's a good sign you should move out if your financial condition allows for it.
I lived in the dorms during college (17) and moved into my own apartment after college (21).
I moved back home recently (22) because I broke up with my gf and living alone was shit.
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>>41488876
crypto coins my dude. You will own Cali in 10 years.
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>>41490980

I'm not relying on it. In 5 years, we will have enough to buy a bigger house to move into and rent the house we have now. My wife's parents gave us $100k to buy a starter home as a wedding present, and we bought in 2009 when the housing market crashed. Even with prices in the gutter today, it's still worth over $200k. So we wait until we have $250k saved up, and as soon as the market crashes again we will buy a new house. I make a shit ton of money, and my wife's parents are loaded. She is also an only child. Even if I lost my pension, we will be fine. I'm doing better than most.
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Hopefully I'll be able to move out when I pass the bar
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>>41488852
With that wage, I would own a house.
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Lots of meme fucking answers in this thread

>move away for college
>didn't plan well so move back home after
>19
>apply all over the nearby city and school city
>don't find much
>go through a couple temp jobs and one in my field by 20
>the one in my field didn't work out
>about to be 21 at home
>haven't worked at a non temp job outside the one in my field

Sidenote if you're thinking about IT the users make it completely unbearable. You can be relatively shit at problem solving but if you can handle people well you'll do well out of school for IT at a heldesk position
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3 years ago loser
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>>41490477
this is a fantastic troll, bravo
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Mother a crackwhore? Dad a violent alcoholic? Move out!

Live in an expensive area but have a great job? Stay, save, and invest.
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A lot of my friends moved out as soon as they turned 18. I'm 23 and I still live with my mom, but its only because I have to help her with the bills and also taking her to the doctors and translate everything they say.

Is this the only time when living with your parents is fine?
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>>41488780
>tfw 24 and still at home
Rent is just too damn high yo
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