Whoa! HOL' the FR*CK UP! This 5'5 garden gnome with

i've been lifting for many years and have to admit he's one of the best fitness youtubers in the game right now, only an opinion though

>OP is salty that he's weak
oh look it's this thread again.

Until someone posts a download link for the NE Overhaul stop making threads about him.

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>>41426924
who was in the wrong here?

>>41426924
>1/2/3/4 at 3x5 within 6-12 months of lifting!
I don't get this meme. I know a lot of people who lift and look good and literally none of us did this. I'm still nowhere close after 2.5 years

My own fucking pic for reference

>>41426924
he's right though. 1234 is nothing special and is easily obtainable in <1 year for those with some sport background. for absolute weak shits it shouldn't take you more than 1.5-2 years. if it does you are doing it wrong

>>41426964
Naturally enhanced:
> mega nz/#!igYwwAZC!n_rmAr0bO68_pYpDGiGFDygUImklvA4K8MvwMDsE50Q

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>>41426981
forgot pic xD

>>41426974
He still hasn't accepted the Blaha Chanllenge, right? Fucking scammer... I knew it.

>>41426989
This is how you look and cant 1,2,3,4 for reps ?

Wow, just wow.

>>41426981
it's for strength athletes. One of the only thing I disagree with ADs general mantras is that heavy weight = bigger. While progressive overload is indeed needed to get big, one can add volume at high repetitions without ever needing to step into intermediate+ numbers, nor will he fastly progress towards it unless he's roiding while training in such a rep range.

I know plenty of big(ish) guys that lift bitch-weights regarding /fit/ standards and are still bigger than people with twice the numbers posting in CBTs

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>>41426999
See, this is the reaction I get every time but it doesn't help me. Why is everyone so strong compared to me???

>>41427047
What is your training routine/program like? Also, are you a manlet?

I know a couple guys who look like that doing 1pl8 bench and such, but they're 175cm tall or under, short limbs etc...

>>41427047

HEIGHT?

>>41427047
If your nips were any smaller they would be non-
existent

>>41426924
he's right tho

>>41426981
those are baby lifting stats. You gotta to be kidding. The claim in OP is perfectly reasonable for any dedicated person and reasonable in 18-24 months for casual lifters, no matter the height.

>>41426974
Ironically Blahino is more of a man than beta destiny. He's actually filmed himself doing those lifts without bands and shit.

>>41427072
if anything, short limbs help you lift more

the guy just did his hypertrophy right

>>41427047
maybe it's frank medrano effect. He looks swole as fuck on pics but compare him to normal sized adult and he looks like a swole baby

>>41427072
>>41427073
I am 5'9" so 175cm on the dot haha. Even my friends who are 5'11-6'1 and are decently fit cannot hit all of 1/2/3/4 for reps after just one year. I swear it's a /fit/ meme

>>41427097
my stats
B: 190 for 3
S: 245 for 3
D: 280 for 3
OHP: 135 for 3, my only 1/2/3/4 stat

>>41427105
>the guy just did his hypertrophy right
I did hypertrophy training for over a year straight so you're right

>>41427109
strength=/= size, see >>41427002 for a better explanation.

>>41427105
How do I into doing my hypertrophy right?

>>41427120
Care to give more details on hypertrophy training you did from start?

>>41427047
why is your right nipple smaller than your left? also looking like that and being so weak. shame on you

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>>41427137
I did Candito's Upper/Lower Intermediate routine using the strength/hypertrophy template

Now I'm running madcow because I'm tired of being weak

>>41427153
Shame indeed :/

>>41427126
sets of 10
if you're doing e.g. SS as a beginner don't forget to incorporate a few accessory lifts in moderate 8-12 rep range if you want to optimize volume too

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>>41427120
Im 22, lifting on and off for a year and a few months, i have had a history of manual labour, I'm 5 foot 9 too.

My
-Squat- 3.5 plate for 3
-bench 2.25 pl8 for 5
-OHP- 1.5 pl8 for 3
-Deadlift 3 pl8 (i don't train it)

I am no where near as muscular as you though, but i am fat as fuck so maybe its underneath mah belly kek.

>>41427120
i feel like you can deadlift more or maybe i just have a crazy strong back? i have roughly the same stats as you except my OHP is lower and my deadlift is 345 for 1 and i know i can probably rep it out 3 times this monday since i did that when my legs were sore as fuck from doing squats a few days before

>>41427162
candito is a great program and those lifts should be at least your 1rm after 1 year on it. my bet is you never wanted to lose your abs so you never ate enough

>>41427120
What's you're bodyweight? You look very lean.

I'm pretty much the same, 5'9, I look really big but I'm only doing 175 lb for 5 right now.

>>41427162
>>41427162
No abs work?

>>41427186
I can definitely deadlift more weight, but my grip strength gives out. If I have straps I can pull 315 for a single

>>41427193
I only weigh 160

>>41427188
I did a good bulk last year and got fat, was still nowhere near 1/2/3/4. I'm much stronger now with abs

>>41427211
you don't get fat on a good bulk. i've been bulking since i started lifting and i never lost my abs

>>41427120
the fuck ?

I've seen girls deadlift more. I'm at 365 DL after 6 months of deadlifting. How did you get so big lifting so little ?

>>41427173
it probably isn't - I'm not that guy but hypertrophy training has its place. If you only train for strength (and thus achieve submaximal volume each session unless you train 2 hours each day), you will get bigger but compared to someone that focuses on hypertrophy you will get comparatively stronger but smaller

rolling for spushups cos i'm bored

>>41426989
What are your maxes?

>>41427219
strength=/=size

you have a higher neuromuscular efficiency due to your style of training. If the other guy started powerlifting, he could probably quickly pick up strength gains given that he already has a large amount of muscle mass

>>41427047
question is how did you look before you started lifting?

>>41426924
Who is this and whats his youtube channel? Always see these threads, never know his name

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>>41427219
I can't into strength. Until recently I used to see girls who could outsquat me at the gym

>>41427249
Pic related

>>41427238
I posted em, scroll up

>>41427270
i guarantee you you will be able to into strength if you start madcow as stated - you have an awesome base musclemass-wise, just gotta learn and train how to make your muscles more efficient

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I've started March 16th (left) and did a pretty hypertrophy routine for almost 2 months (right)

0.5/1.5/2.25/2.5

6'3, 87kg to 89kg.

>>41427285
You are right. I've been on madcow for a semester now and I've made more strength gains in 4 months than I did in the past 1.5 years

>>41427120
You are weak as fuck nigga wtf

>>41427002
I know that's the case and to be honest, I would like to drop the weight (for joints health) and train with more volume/baby weights, but it gets retarded by now. I look like a skelle, but bench 250, OHP 180 and deadlift 405. But when I try to drop weights I'm starting to do like 15+ reps on each exercise.
How to get bigger benching 1pl8 (which feels really comfy for my joints)? Impossibru. I refuse to bench it 25 times per set or whatever.

>>41427242
Yeah I guess. I wish I was half as big as he is. But his numbers are honestly surprising. I mean, even if he added only 5lbs to his lifts every month, (which is extremely slow progress for begginer/intermediate), lifting for 2,5yrs he would still probably have bigger lifts. Even on purely hypertrophy focused programs, you could probably add weight on the bar faster.

I mean no hate tho, I'm mirin that body hard nohomo

>>41427120
What the fuck!!??

I look like shit, but my lifts are heavier and i've been doing this for only a year.

Like I dont want to be a dick, you look fucking good. But it just doesnt add up.My chest is literally maybe even less than 1/4 of yours but i still bench more wtf.

This is confusing the shit out of me.

>>41427289
What routine?

>>41427322
above 15 is endurance area - I think you should be able to drop the weight towards the 8-12 rep range without it affecting your joints as much.

How the fuck can you guys do 4pl8 deadlifts in like half a year i dont even have that many weights what the fuck.

>>41427002
>it's for strength athletes

For a 181 pound athlete, 2/3/4 plates for a 5 rep MAX (not 3x5), is somewhere between "proficient" and "advanced" according to symmetrical strength. If you hit those numbers in under 12 months, you are extremely gifted, or have a background in sports where you probably lifted, just not as a primary focus.

If you weigh like 165 or less, trying to hit 2/3/4 for 5 reps on a linear progression program will be like running into a brick wall over and over again.

There's no fucking reason to stay on a beginner program once you've stalled out a couple times.

Periodization is still progressive overload, and you probably progress just as fast on something like the Texas Method or Madcow as you would sticking to a linear program when you account for all the stalls and deloads.

>>41427327
if you want to increase I'd advise you to look into scoobys old home training videos - he was one of those lifters that train with comparatively low loads at controlled tension time etc. to maximize hypertrophy.

Another one I stumpled upon recently is Jeff Nippard, which is what you're looking for if you want more hypertrophy as well, all backed with publications

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>>41427331
similar to what
>>41427162
is doing except I never squat and dlift on the same day and do more accessory with more volume (pretty much everything 5x12)

also I don't have rest days at all which I know is retarded but if I don't go to the gym I go back to being depressed & eat like shit that day.

isn't the first time I'm lifting, I just had a pretty depressed phase where I wouldn't eat or sleep for 2-3 days straight for roughly half a year during which I lost all my gains.

I'm also on 5g creatine and 3g BCAA a day

most of my gains happened in the first month, pic related

>>41426981
>>41426999
>>41427047
i know this feel. I posted my physique once in cbt thread and people started assuming that my lifts are big

>>41426981
What your program?

>>41427388
unless you're horrifically deformed its by far the easiest one on the list. hard to imagine anything more natural than picking heavy shit from the floor wheres the other three have learning and hammering down the form component draging out the process

>>41427219
>I'm at 365 DL after 6 months of deadlifting

Are you a lardass, a lanklet, or a tall fridge?

>>41427418
>5g creatine and 3g BCAA

Im not taking these.

How important are they? I never understood if all the supplements other than whey are just meme tier of if they actually have a significant effect.

>>41427418
>>41427331
oh yea also 25 min cardio a day

>>41427394
Im trying to increase both strenght AND size.

Started doing the reddit PPL about 3 weeks ago after not being on a program for about half a year.

>>41427388
>How the fuck can you guys do 4pl8 deadlifts in like half a year

They are lanklets

>>41427473
This tbqh
On the other hand my bench/ohp are lagging af.

>>41427432
>hard to imagine anything more natural than picking heavy shit from the floor

Billions of people literally squat every time they want to take a shit. There is nothing more natural than that.

>unless you're horrifically deformed its by far the easiest one on the list

Except that a 405 deadlift is proportionally much stronger than a 315 squat, 225 bench, or 135 OHP. Unless you have freakishly long arms or just suck ass at pushing.

>>41427449
First time using creatine and obviously it's working well, but idk how much of that is just lifestyle change and what is creatine. People seem to say it works though and I'm not gonna try fix what's not broken, especially since creatine is pretty cheap.

ran out of BCAA last week and haven't felt any difference so idk probably wouldn't recommend it but we'll see

>>41427442

Dunno. I'm 6'2 at 180 lbs. 12-15% bf maybe. I have pretty long femurs. My DL started at like 200 lbs and I added 10 lbs every week I could do it. That's theoretically 160 lbs (-->365) gained in 16 weeks, or 4 months.I obviously stalled and deloaded sometimes, skipped gym sometimes etc. so it took me 6 months instead.

>>41427449
creatine will increase your bench by like 5%
its overrated

>>41426924
He's right though if you can't squat 3 plates for 3x5 within 12 months you failed big league

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>>41426924
If you can't do this after 1 year of focusing on it you're doing something wrong, I don't know how this BetaDestiny fuck is in any way relevant to 1/2/3/4 though

>>41428599
>>41427644

Holy fuck /fit/ is delusional as hell

ITT dyel boys discover hypertrophy training

Cute

>>41427270
now you are white

>>41426988
Overhaul nigga that's the old one

>>41426924

im pretty convinced the guy in the pic is posting all these dumbass threads to boost his sales

>>41429094
>>41429094
nah just fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Umejp-YdQ

I watch him for lifting motivation and advice along with Eric Bugenhagen, Clarence and Brian Alsruhe

>>41429114

wow. a roided up manlet with no range of motion. how impressive.

>>41429131
>ROM
Why does everyone bitch about his ROM on above the knee rack pulls? The whole point of the lift is the hold he does at the top do the actual movement part. He says this literally all the time.

Also
>Roids
He is against roids to the point where it's autistic. He doesn't even use supplements lmao.

>>41429165
not* the actual movement part

>>41429165
>He is against roids to the point where it's autistic


>actually believing that

>>41429271
if anyone on yt is natty, alex is. plus he had a huge back from calisthenics when he was like 17. plus manlet proportions obviously

>>41429271
Yeah I believe it. Everything about him screams natural lmao, he'd be way bigger than he is now.

>>41427002
steroid use is so much more common than you know, seriously

>>41426981
>2.5 yrs
>nowhere close to 1/2/3/4

wtf are you doing?

>>41426974
I'm not a Blahino fanboy but he honestly btfo betadestiny's fanboys

>>41426924
Assuming you start at a normal and healthy weight, yeah that's absolutely attainable in 6-12 months of lifting with proper dieting and programming.

>>41431073
Getting swole with minimal strength gains

>>41427121
strength=size

what do you think, physiologically, makes someone stronger? you think it's nuclear power moving the bones? electricity?

no, it's parallel sarcomeres working together aka cross sectional area of the muscle aka size. a bigger muscle is always stronger.

the only reason some big people are weak:

1) amazing genetics visually - bone structure illusions, muscle belly fullness
2) amazing genetics with training response (huge variation among natties) or with body chemistry like testosterone levels (huge variation as well) - never had to lift heavy to grow
3) people with great genetics or steroids who never had to lift heavy weight don't know the correct form to optimize numbers (pressing overhead at a 45 degree angle with a loose body) + never lifted heavy so never had to practice activating muscles in the correct order (called neural adaptation)

>>41427270
holy fuck dude, mad progress

I'm stronger than you but look worse after 3.5 yrs

>>41427270
mirin privilege gainz tbqhfam

>>41426989
Honestly dude this shouldnt worry youm you look great and you are less prone to injury training with low weights

>>41428687
It's more like "ITT people realising SS+GOMAD meme is pretty suboptimal if you're doing it for the aesthetics"

Yeah he rite but I still barely look like I lift

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>>41426924
1/3 are in the bag (1.5, 4.5) but no 2/4, so i'm still a novice? most manlet yt trainiers are so shit, like him and fictional patterns

>>41427270
you've put me on suicide watch

>>41427120
holy shit. I lift in kg what you lift in pounds and I look worse than you.
you should become a bodybuilder. you could get enormous without bothering your joints and connective tissue.

>>41433897
So you mean you do 1.5pl8 OHP but can't bench 2pl8? Fuck off

>>41427461
>rebbith
get the fuck OUT of here

>>41434344
It's literally impossible to OHP 1.5 pl8 and not be able to atleast bench 2.5 plate (rather 3 plate, even). I swear some people on /fit/ don't even lift and make shit up

>>41434284
>pulling those numbers in kilos
Meh, if you really lift what he lifts in kilos (highly suspect) I doubt he would look more physically imposing standing next to you, aesthetics notwithstanding. It's not hard to look good at low %bf even if you're fairly skinny, especially in photos where you have no reference point.

>>41432573
Honestly, this.

I feel like /fit/ did a total 180 on the strength/hypertrophy thing as little as 1-2 years ago.

>>41427047
You look small pussy

>>41426958
i think the same lol. he sometimes speaks true things

>>41435426
not really - if anything, the "muh strength is an absolute requirement for hypertrophy" retards are more prevalent these days (been here for almost 8 years). What the guy you quoted says is essentially correct, and strength will equal size compared amongst lifters that all train in the same rep range, but as he also said you can grow big without ever touching heavy weights. 8-12 reps for hypertrophy has been preached since the beginning for pseudo-bodybuilders

>>41435933
hehe ty men

>>41432573
Hey, anon, you know your shit.

Care to throw out a quick list of books/sites where you've learned some of this? Got any good info on nutrition?

t. someone who is innundated with broscience on /fit/

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>mfw weak but also fat and look like shit

>>41426974
blahino btfod strapondestiny

ooooh wow im sure loading the spine with 1000lbs to stimulate the traps for 1 sec is a good idea. if only there were alternative exercises

>>41427120
>1/2/3/4 for reps after just one year. I swear it's a /fit/ meme
Nobody on /fit/ actually lifts. And the ones lifting 1/2/3/4 for reps within two years probably all weight 225+ lbs, so it's not even an impressive metric.

>>41436415
lol this coping, it's really not that hard of a goal to reach as long as you do a strength focused routine. Most people fall for the fuckarounditis the first months though which ruins a lot of potential progress

>>41436616
>lol this coping
t. "powerlifter"

>>41436313
If we were all doing this to be kind to our joints this board would be about swimming and nutrition.

Pussy

>>41436732
Nope, push/puller

>>41426989
>>41427047
you roid... r..right anon ? There is no way a natty that looks like that cant bench 2pl8 for reps.

>>41436980
enjoy your herniated disc

>>41437035
>he fell for the "everyone that looks better than me despite putting up lower numbers is a roider" meme
lmao

>>41426988
old version lol, irrelevant. new version is like double the amount of pages and completely redone.

>>41427206
can be done in optional exercises bro

>>41437124
honestly I am very surprised because I always thought for nattys strenght = size is basically true more or less.

>>41437284
I'm natty, a bit lanklet but generally quite big and my lifts are shit

>>41427449
if supps like that were actually beneficial in any meaningful manner they would be illegal

>>41426958

No matter what he says I can't get over the fact that he is a complete fucking loser and I in no way aspire to be like him.

Yes, I know he makes youtube money but it doesn't make up for his personal and physical flaws.

>>41427270
lmao u were black before

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You have to follow the program to be repping 1/2/3/4


U mirin brah? fuark im mirin myself

Inb4 skinny hater boys real men have MEAT bones r 4 le dogs :)

>>41438516
What the fuck did I just read... Do a fucking cut you fat ass

>>41426924
Fuck this guy looks abysmal. Genetics truly are everything.

>>41438516
tfw no arms no chest only lats and a big nice belly

>>41434284
>I lift in kg what you lift in pounds
No you don't

>>41438140
what

you're fucking retarded mate

>>41438516
you must be trolling

god damn you spent 2 years to look that retarded when all you had to do was work on your frame and arms a bit

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>>41435176
>literally impossible
How come I can OHP 1.5pl8 but can only bench 90kg?

>>41439464
>90kg bench
>80kg OHP
90% sure you're lying but the rest 10% offchance is that you're physically retarded

>>41438740
>abysmal

come on anon he's not that short

>>41431073
looking better than you, apparently

>>41439603
100% truth m8, I just really like OHP. I aimed for 2pl8 bench but never really bothered with it.

>>41439464
>>41439603
It's kind hard to grasp the proper form on bench if you do not put effort into it. So yea your bench will be shit despite great ohp.

First place your foot behind your knees and try to push the floor away. Clench your butt and contract your abs like you're trying to make the line from the navel to the anus the shortest possible. Lastly, start pressing. When you hit the bottom of the movement, push it like you're pushing yourself away from it.

You should hit 100kg on bench in no time, if not at 1st proper try.

>>41427120
b-but strength=size, right guys?

>>41440327
No, of course not.

The thing is: if you lift BIG weights (think of 2/3/4/5 if you're tall or 1/2/3/4 if you're short) you will look big no matter what your program diet is, and you'll probably won't be bothered the looks; however, if you're scrawny guy and your goal is only look good, not to have big lifts, there are better ways to reach your goal, that is, by proper dieting and doing lots of volume programs (PHUL, Candito LP, PPL etc). If you opt for the latter, you'll likely won't get to 1/2/3/4 in under two years, but you will look somewhat good in a year tops.

The strength=size meme is getting out of hand. The strength-base for most beginners looking for hypertrophy should be 1pl8 for bench and 2 pl8 for squats/dl, not 1/2/3/4, but something you get in a couple months or so in worst cases scenarios (ie a BASE).

Honestly, his body isn't bad, but his face ruins the entire deal.
He has baby face and pubes beard.
If he was like white with a good beard and manly face (also some body hair), he's be good, but right now as he is, he just looks like another cringy manlet.

>>41426924

He's right though.

>>41440459
this should be stickied, because it's legit

>>41426924
what's his shoulder routine if natty? can't be just basic shit

>>41437087
I'll enjoy my gains faggot

>>41438477
You're griping over the arbitrary random shit that literally doesn't matter lmao

>>41440737
>Shoulder routine
Oh anon, you have so much to learn.

>>41427270
Routine?

>>41426924
anyone watch bushbud? he rips into this dude

>>41441567
test e 500mg/week

>>41429405
newfag alert

>>41442103
I just watched his video. That guy is a fucking retard.

>>41427289
How'd your hips get so much smaller in 2 months?

>>41442103
Hey bushbud

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>>41436248
some of my information is from watching a lot of youtube videos and reading articles and forums. when you do reading online, it's hard to know what to trust because people will say things with no references and no credentials or experience. you don't know if someone is a doctor or someone who just started lifting and has a lot of confidence. you have to cross reference sources and see what the smart, experienced people agree with

most of my knowledge is from my university's exercise biology classes. a lot of the info in the slides is directly from figures/graphs taken from various studies.

knowing basic physiology is a prerequisite but one of the books we followed for exercise physiology is "Exercise Physiology: Theory and Application to Fitness and Performance" by Scott Powers

Since this thread is about alphadestiny, I have to say that I watched a lot of his videos and can confirm that the vast majority of the things he says are supported by the books and studies, he definitely did his reading. He's one of my favorite channels because he has a ton of good knowledge and it's funny how people fail to realize that because of his attitude and appearance.

for training principles, you can explore these:

"Science and Practice of Strength Training" by Vladimir Zatsiorsky

"Special Strength Training: Manual for Coaches" by Verkhoshansky

"Strength and Power in Sport" - Paavo

"Science of Sports Training" - Kurtz

"Managing the training of weightlifters" - Laputin

"Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning" - Baechle

"Supertraining" - Verkhoshansky (difficult book)

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I'm not going to take anything serious from a hideous pasty dwarf anyway

>>41442115
I do not roid fucking lmao