I'm a girl and I would like to join a practical martial

>>41417885

id take muay thai over kickboxing

choose one that is good for cardio and as a sport, because you will always be weak as shit.
Krav Maga is probably the worst for a woman. Kickboxing and muay thai will at least make you cute.

>>41417929
Why is krav maga the worst?
It's not about being cute

>>41417885
get trained with a knife. never act tough and bait in attackers. end fight with knife. honestly you'll get rekt out there by giant guys, which is unfortunate for you. Do you want to learn grapples? Learn Jiu Jitsu. Want to have scabby knees and elbows? Do Muay thai. Want to marry a nice jewish boy? Do Krav Maga

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>>41417885
mma or one of it's components. So boxing,jiu-jitsu,muay thai or wrestling

>>41417965
>get trained with a knife.
don't, you don't need training to stab someone and the winner of knife fight usually ends up in the hospital. If you're worried about getting harassed by random people just get pepper spray, knifes cross the threshold into homicide and once you pull it the other person will try and kill you. Whereas pepper spray is dangerous enough to incapacitate them and not put you in court trying to justify lethal force

>>41417885

Krav maga will get you "street ready" versus common untrained thugs in the shortest amount of time.

Other arts might be better versus more skilled opponents at higher levels.

1)learn how to run fast
or
2)buy a gun

>I want to learn how to fight and defend myself
You ain't going to "defend yourself" against a man twice your weight even if you get black belts in five martial arts. It doesn't work like in movies. Self-defence courses for women are scams.

>>41417885
i'm a typical fat guy who was recently shopping around for a martial art. I had no problem manhandling black belts girls in a hilarious fashion.

As for boxing... just go to a boxing gym some day, and listen to the heavy bags when the dudes whale on them. You don't want that to be your face.

>>41418096
>manhandling black belts girls
Jiu-Jitsu?

>>41418121
judo and bjj.

Also, please be in the city I am in so as to that I can imply that we will have sex.

>>41418096
How exactly do you go about that?
Must be awkward walking into a gym demanding to fight their best women

Muay Thai would be the way to go.
I did Kram Maga for a year. It's good for knowing how to finish a fight quickly, but the fear of getting punched in the face is still there.
Muay Thai has sparing and you'll learn to take a punch.
Better yet do Bjj, its the master race of martial arts desu

>>41417960
>It's not about being cute
it is. you're never going to be dangerous.

>>41417885
Bjj all the way.

>>41418153
>go into gym
>point at female who thinks she's hot shit
>ask her to prove it to you
>manhandle her

>>41417885
none of those. what you want is a wrestling discipline, largely so that you can escape from being grappled, and it will let you wreck untrained people who are roughly your size. Striking is not practical for women, elite female boxers get destroyed by average male amateurs.

Invest in a rape whistle. It will actually be more useful and cheaper too!

>>41418153
Sparring practice. Everyone got in two lines, did a round, shifted one to the right. Got some black belt girl, tossed her down, grabbed both her wrists with one hand, eventually grabbed her ankle she kept trying grab my neck with.

Rubbed my belly on her boobies and smelled her hair. Was pretty deluxe.

>>41418225
Little slut probably got wet as fuck. My gf loves when we wrestle and I overpower her effortlessly

>>41417885
>Black belt TKD (17 years, trained for 6 years, stopped when I got BB)
>Black belt BJJ (4 years, 11 years to get BB)
>Blue belt Judo (been going sporadically for 5 years to work on take downs)
>Muay Thai (7/4 amateur)
>MMA (been doing it once a week for past 4 years)
You are a female. You will never be able to stand against a man; not even a manlet. Hollywood is not real life.
Where you can at least reduce your disadvantage is on the ground. You need to know how to get a man off of you and stand up, so you can run. You need to know how to get a man to the ground, so you can run. That is something you can achieve.
While your upper body strength, even if you train, will always be comically inferior to a man's, the same is not true for your legs. You should train BJJ, so you can learn how to sweep a larger opponent who's on top of you and to stand up quickly. You'll also learn how to avoid ground and pound. You'll learn how to use leverage to compensate for your lack of strength.
Krav Maga, while largely a meme, can be useful for the same purpose i.e. you can learn how to stun your opponent (disable them if you're lucky) for a brief time in order to make your escape. If you don't succeed with the initial element of surprise though, you're likely to eat curb shortly afterward. BJJ is still the way to go...
Know that despite what Joe Rogan might say, almost every mma gym has a dude of comparable weight to Ronda Rousey (or any other female fighter) who would fuck her up on any given day. That guy probably isn't even pro, but he's probably a decent fighter...There are only a handful of woman who could actually mix it with an average sized man, and they're all built like average sized men.
I don't mean to demoralize you. I mean to stop you getting yourself seriously hurt in the future because you think you can go toe-to-toe with a man.
On the bright side, you *will* be able to fuck up other women if they piss you off.

>practical martial art

There's no such thing. Learn to shoot.

>>41417885
If you're at least over 5"6 you can stand a chance in a fight, if you'd rather fight than use a weapon such as pepper spray or something, try Muay Thai.

>>41417885
Just get /fit/ and get a concealed carry license, it's win/win.

You have to realize that as a woman you will not be able to physically defend yourself against 98% of men, just get a gun instead if you want to defend yourself.

You'll get seriously hurt anon, same goes for men, running away from an actual fight where somebody has the intention to hurt you is the absolute best option

>>41417885
C L O A K. A N D. D A G G E R

Literally a woman will never be strong enough to defend herself in a face to face 1 v 1. Need an equaliser, carry a knife and draw him in with charm, stab him and play up your helplessness to the police.

If a bish pulled a knife on me I would crack her neck tout sweet.

>>41418542
The whole point is to lul the assailant into a false sense of security by co operating clumsily and then sticking a knife in his back.

>>41418351
It's just that BJJ doesn't seem as fun. I wanted some hand to hand combat. Also, lifting will make me stronger than the average untrained guy

>>41418594
The back is a shitty place to stab desu. Too many ribs. Better to stab softer areas of possible

>>41418469
t. never fought.
Defending yourself isnt about some martial art, unless youre high level youll get(and score yourself) simple punches, so either learn boxing/kicking or the art of intimidating(hard for a woman)

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>>41417885
Ay bby. Do MMA with a focus on striking. Muay Thai/Boxing training will help the most in terms of self defense. Grappling is also helpful, but you don't want to rely solely on grappling. Incorporate a good lifting/cardio program alongside the martial arts training if you aren't already. Also, go to /asp/ and browse the /mag/ threads, they tend to give good advice.

>>41418761
Nope , typical fat guy off the street can pull 315 on day one. Good luck if you can by year 3.

>>41418921
Fat guy off the street can bench 165-185. Rough and tumble sorts can go high as 225.

>>41418224
If I heard a loud whistle I would ignore it, I assume most people would too.

Smaller women sure won't gain much in terms of self-defense from martial arts since and average guy can basically throw them around with one hand, but there are some big, fit girls in my judo dojo that do give the smaller guys a run for their money. And yes, they are cute. Though apparently most of them trained more frequently a few years ago and now only drop in occasionally, it's a sausage fest now except for this tiny 17 year old, she's super consistent and skilled but she's far too small to spar with her without restraining yourself.

>>41418479
Unless you live in America, then maintain safe distance, and shoot until late badguy stops doing bad things.

>>41418799
that pic is funny as fuck and very accurate

This one time, I defeated an entire high school of girls and was crowned the queen of berlin

>>41418225

It sounds to me like you did a line drill and got matched with a white belt

How do I not get an erection when I have to spar with a girl?

Seeing a cutie lying helpless on the ground completely under my control just gives me a raging erection. Then I get banned from the gym.

>>41420369
same but with men
n-no homo

>>41417885
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>>41417885
wing chun, the ONLY fighting style designed by a woman to combat and subdue multiple and stronger opponents

>>41417885
lol at hobbit body

>>41417885
Do a Krav Maga for some months, then switch to Muay Thai. Learn some BJJ & Judo from someone at the Muay Thai school. Grappling for defense on the streets is a meme unless you have friends with you to back you up - or if you don't STAY on the ground. Knowing some will definitely help though. And get familiar with this website: https://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com

>>41417885
carry a knife bra

>>41418761
As a woman you'd have an advantage with your lower center of gravity and lower body strength. If you're serious about defense, take advantage of it.

>>41420193
Nah senpai the belt was quite black.

>>41417885
there is nothing you can do to defend yourself against a man who is even moderately stronger than you or has basic combat training unless youve been training consistently for years. learn how to use a gun if you live in america. if not, good luck.

>>41418927
lol. I've known several non athletic, slightly overweight, couch potatoes bench 315+ on their first day. The average non lifting male that comes in benches 225-250 on their first day

I've NEVER seen a women bench over 150, including girls who've been training for 10+ years. This is at a gym that has top ranked olympians, powerlifters etc.

The average slob on the street could easily take on 3 trained, professional level, elite women at once

>>41418066
Of course you're better off knowing how to fight with a knife if you plan on using one. Wtf are you stupid ?

You aren't even supposed to stab people with it you stupid piece of shit. You're supposed to constantly wave it in front of you in wavy unpredictable motions so people can't get close without cuts on their hands that make them unusable for grabbing said knife from you.

You also get the bonus of it being less lethal and not getting stuck in some person.

>>41417885
Why not just get a strong boyfriend?

>>41417885
just go for a straight mma; ignore the asian bs, unless youre just looking for a dance class

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-39853374

Look lady you're gonna get your ass beat by a dude unless you're some kind of freak of nature martial arts ninja, which since you're posting on this board we can assume you're not. Buy a gun if you want self defense.

>>41417885
Look lady, the most roided girl in my gym squats what I bench. And I'm a fucking fat dyel. You know whats the best option for you? Don't fight. Unless you're planning on giving Laqueesha the beating of her life there is no one else you can beat. Any average bro can probably wreck your shit with one arm no matter how many fancy moves you learn. So, just buy a gun or learn to run real fast.

But if you insist on learning a martial art then go for Muay Thai. A lucky elbow to the face will disable even the strongest dude for a bit, at least enough for you to fuck off.

>>41417885
Jiu jitsu...

>>41417885
If you're a girl and want to learn how to defend yourself buy and gun and get lessons on how to properly and safely practice and maintain it.

You aren't going to judo flip a bunch of gangbangers trying to mug you in a bad part of town, that's just asking to get stabbed.

This also applies to men but at least they have a better chance one on one to incapacitate an aggressor before getting away and calling the cops. Don't try to be at fucking hero.

If you live in the third world like Europe or California then get a knife instead

>>41420654

Mm, still just a line drill

>>41421050
Women don't have the physical strength or dexterity to fire a gun well enough to be useful.
The oldest, fattest DYEL I know could still beat up a trained, armed woman.

>>41417885
>I want to learn how to fight and defend myself
learn MMA, everything else would be stupid. Or buy a gun

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>No real interest in ancient asian culture desu lol
Where do you think you are? Fuck you.

>An average man can beat a trained woman at an-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjBBBiIaz4

>>41421501
Jesus fucking Christ. Look at that fucking monster.

>>41421501
only talented men can achieve that kind of speed, agility, and explosiveness. even talented female boxers move like they're under water. Ann Wolfe was probably the best female boxer of all time, but watch videos of her fights and you'll see that a journeyman male would shit on her.

>>41417885
DO YOUSUCK DICKS

>>41418351
Useful answer there.

>>41420685
Ik men are stronger than womeb but the average untrained man can't lift lmao2pl8 on day one. 1pl8 on first try is the average.

>>41421351
So I'm just bound to get raped or have my ass beat?

Can't really speak from experience, but logically your legs will probably be stronger than his arms. So the best thing to do is take advantage of that, so BJJ. It also teaches you how to fight effectively from your back, which is the position you will probably be in if you're about to get raped.

If you try boxing and he walks through your punches, then drags you to the floor you'll be fucked, in more ways than one.

So in order:

1. Gun Fu
2. Jamaican Run Jitsu
3. BJJ
4. Krav Maga
5. Muay Thai
6. Kickboxing

>>41417885
From someone who has done both, kickboxing is just karate with less techniques and more bagwork.

>>41417885

/fit/ are you this insecure?
>hurr durr woman is just for cardio
>hurr durr a female in MA can't do shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKNiEU-xr_0

>>41421748
In a real fight the guy would spear tackle her and rip her head off

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>>41417885
If you are a small woman concerned about your safety, concealed carry is the answer.

Despite what Movies depict, size matters a hell of a lot when it comes to fighting.

If you insist on training Google BJJ studios near you.

>>41421748
she might as well have been fighting a wavemaster

>>41421687
Yes, women aren't meant to defend themselves
Do yoga, pilates, sunbathing. Stuff that women were made for

>>41418295
Go back to commenting on porn videos, deepak.

>>41421687
Literally why I would rather wake up at 2am to pick up my /fit/ gf from two blocks away or 2 hours away.
A friend of mine who is a New Zealand rep for judo tells everyone the best way to win a fight is to diffuse the situation entirely.
Things like if your walking at night and see a dodgy person, cross the street and talk to someone on your phone. They're less likely to cause problems if your not isolated.
Be smart about what you do, learn self defense sure, but don't fool yourself into thinking you can take on even one man who could be twice your weight.

>>41418799
How are boxing, kickboxing, muhay Thai and kyokushin Karate homophobic?

>>41421923

No grappling. I touch a lot of dicks in judo and if you wanna be any good you gotta be willing to grab dick like your life depends on it.

>>41421501
cocaine is a hell of a drug.

>>41422042
Ok I know this is going to sound really absurd for foreigners but Capoeira is not actually a Martial Art, at least not in a sense that its for self defense. Capoeira was created for ambushing and Assassinating people.

What most people don't know is that there is a part of Capoeira that teaches you to use knifes and machetes, the plan is to have explosive high kicks so that the slaves could knock the slavemasters off their horses and quickly shank the motherfucker while he was on the ground or simply drop a heel kick on an unaware target, so powerful that there would be no chance of the guy getting up after it. The dance part was just a way of practicing it without getting caught and the weapon manipulation part of Capoeira is dead, not taught anywhere. So its not a martial art anymore, its just tricking. But in a sense, Capoeira is probably one of the deadliest compilation of movements ever created, as it was created solely to guerrilla warfare and assassination.

>>41422766

Nigger martial arts.

No thanks.

>>41420685
lol the average non lifter cannot bench two plates on their first day.

315 + on their first day is also fucking ridiculous

>>41417885
Kick box or muai thai if you're more focused on the learning to fight.
Krav maga if you're more focusing on raising your chances of actually defending yourself in real life scenarios.

Now for some reality check. Unless you're top 1% hulking amazon with couple black belts. You'll always be weaker than the average street thug. There is no fair match making on the street and Krav maga works around that. Muai and kickbox are great help to your fighting ability when it comes to throwing fists. But as someone mentioned. Krav Maga will get you street fight ready in the shortest time.

>>41418030
>trained women trying to wrestle a grown untrained man

Never do this OP

>>41418351
Joe rogan?

>>41422836
>You'll always be weaker than the average street thug
what, even if you can KO them with one punch?

where does BJJ fit into this equation

>>41417885
>I want to learn how to fight and defend myself

Kick them in the balls as hard as you physically can. You win

>>41422778
My point is that its not even a martial arts and people should stop even talking about it in this threads.

Peekaboo boxing / tight defense. You will be dangerous in just a few weeks.

Wow. The level of muscle beats everything idiocy is stupid high in this thread.
Just do kickboxing OP and ignore the cavemen.

I'm pretty sure bjj was invented by a couple of old guys to maximise the advantage of technique and leverage over strength.


That seems like a good basis.

Contrary to popular belief, the best self defense there ever is or was is always vigilance.

learn to assess threats before it could happen, and believe it or not it all starts with eye contact, not a stare down, mind you, but that split second eye contact.

The point is you let people know that you 'know' that you are aware of them, this reduces their willingness to 'jump' you, not only this but you should and always try to avoid fights, but you do not deny them, you do not tell yourself that 'I'm never gonna be in a real life and death scenario anyway', you should never live in denial, no matter where you live, it doesnt matter that youre living in a first world country, shit will always try to make things happen.

Heres a basic rundown how to survive

1. is always Vigilance, assess them before it happens, and always do your best to try and avoid fights, steer confrontations from fist fights, apologize if you must, a slightly scratched ego is better than getting stabbed.

2. learn Boxing, I dont give a shit what people say around here, but Boxing IS the best striking art there is for a normie, enrolling in almost any boxing class will give you balance and coordination which is very important more so than power when it comes to life and death

Note; I said 'normie', there are alot of more complicated striking arts which are arguably better than boxing in most cases, but to attain that level you must be a competing fighter, so for people with jobs and only have a few time per week to spare, boxing is actually your best bet, you benefit so much for so little time.

2.5 If its a boxing gym with only a couple of sparring PER MONTH, quit it ASAP, its a fucking boxercise gym, a good way to know if youre in the right place is if your place is having sparrings ATLEAST once or twice a week.

cont.

3. Ground work Bjj, Judo or wrestling, this will almost 80% of the time allow you to come on top in a street fight (aspalt and all) but is very situational compared to striking, you use this when you want to skip all the bullshit and just end the fight as quickly as possible, BUT you do not use this when your aggressor is with a group, you dont want to get your head kicked in.

Note; You do not prefer one over the other, train them together.

4. EDCs, knives, whistles, tasers, sprays, the works. Almost any knife with at maximum 4 inch of blade length can be passed off as a 'tool', if you ever decide to bring an EDC, YOU MUST ALWAYS bring it with you, it doesnt matter where, you must have it at all times, its always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Also, it doesnt mean that you carry a knife that you must personally SEEK confrontations, just go fuck yourself

>BUT WHAT ABOUT /fit/? CAN I INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WITH MY MUSCLES?

As Mike Tyson once said "weights have as much resemblance to punching power as a cheesecake"

For the reason for this, you have to go deep on why being buffed doesnt necessarily scare people

the main reason for this would be; Ego. especially for criminals or people with ill intent, they are not scared of your muscles, they see it as a challenge, and will make them want to confront you as a group instead, having a big physique intimidates them but doesnt trigger a flight response, but rather the opposite, these people will want to see you fall, they want to humiliate you, especially when youre with your girl, they want to assert dominance.

dont get me wrong, being 6'6 has its perks, but people will bleed out the same when slashed in the thighs, people will fall the same when their knees are pushed in, or their throats smacked

5. maybe redundant with #1 but, NEVER LIVE IN DENIAL

I want to say that you should never get comfortable, ever, but that maybe pushing it, just get this, never live in denial

>>41417885
Muay Thai & BJJ

Sports is not self-defence.

>Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

6. motivation

http://www.mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

actually just read this once in your life, should touch you in a weird kind of way.

7. guts

When everything is all said and done, when you've trained enough, you've started to carry a knife, or have decided to finally be more aware, it still comes down to whether youre willing what to do what it takes to survive, and 'what it takes' doesnt always feel nice.

>Are you willing to use your skills to bring down your aggressor?
>Are you willing to use these skills to hit the throat, the knee, the shins, the eyes, the ears, the balls in order to put yourself in an advantage?
>Are you willing to put these skills aside and just apologize to avoid a physical confrontation?
>are you willing to get your ego a bit damaged?
>are you willing to use that knife when it comes to it and never pull it out until the body stops twitching?
>are you willing to take down your aggressor on an aspalt ground?
>are you willing to run for your life and leave a crime scene?

obviously this applies to the most extreme of cases but should be treated the same nonetheless

99. GET A FUCKING GUN

>>41421748
i don't think you "get" jackass

What would be a good sport for someone 6'3" but a normal frame ?
I kinda want to learn a martial art cause i should put all that lifting to use.
I'm 25yo and i played basketball for years, living in France( north).

Boxing sounds good but boxing gyms are full of dickheaded big ego arabs.
Muay thai sounds a bit scary, i'd rather not get even uglier.

>>41418351
>You are a female. You will never be able to stand against a man; not even a manlet. Hollywood is not real life.
99% of men are fat and weak as shit tho.

>>41423501
Same with women

>>41423166
>Also, it doesnt mean that you carry a knife that you must personally SEEK confrontations, just go fuck yourself
This is clearly derived from shittest tier legal ianal legal advice.

Nobody ever knows your intention. The question is does it look plausible that such a thing was your intention.

Anyway OP why are you scared of rape? It's not like you haven't already sucked 30 dicks; what's one more?

>>41423508
In other words there's like a 1% difference.

If you're a 1% man, you can beat up pretty much everybody. In fact it'll be barring some of the 1% you're a part of.

If you're a 1% woman you can beat up everybody except some other 1% women and that 1% of men.

By beat up I mean come out of a fight alright.

>>41423410
Go ride a bike pierre

Seriously tho my judo gym is full of sassy frenchies

>>41423526
Im a virgin

>>41423544
Someone who has never stepped into a gym detected.

>>41417885
>I'm a girl and I would like to join a practical martial art
dropped

>>41423558
People who go to the gym are a vanishingly small amount of the population.

>>41423578
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/men-are-stronger-than-women-on-average/

The top 10% of women are weaker than 95% of men.

Put down the anime son, it's giving you a warped sense of reality.

>>41417885
I'd take judo. Most of the broads in my academy are very well built and all they do is judo and some strength programs mixed in.

>>41417885
Jiu jitsu is best for girls I'd think. Or may Thai if your set on striking. Knees and elbows always hurt

>>41418096
You must be going to soccer mom mcdojos then cause the girls at our judo academy that are shodan or compete will most likely fuck up a male who is untrained.

>>41418225
Yeah that girl wasn't a black belt you must be colour blind

OP, it's true that you'll still lose a full fight against most men, even if trained vs untrained, but some basic self defense like BJJ or even boxing to stun an opponent to get away can be useful. A lot of women train at my local boxing gym. They can hit hard enough to break a nose or stun a guy, which should be sufficient to get away or get help. But as others have said, it isn't hollywood, most males will blow out females regardless of training.

As has been mentioned before, most men are easily stronger than even athletic women.

But a woman's legs will be stronger than a man's arms, that's the key here, if you can grab a wrist then use your legs as leverage around his arm then you can get even a strong man into an armbar and wreck his shit.

https://youtu.be/e7NpXQkw5pU

This also demonstrates some other anti rape techniques.

>>41421783
Senpai, what states have concealed carry laws?

>>41417885
BJJ

>>41417929
I know BJJ is known for levelling the strength differences a lot. A semi-athletic woman trained in BJJ could easily beat an average untrained man.
I don't know much about Krav Maga, but I always assumed it was a self-defense martial art that was also pretty good at dealing with strength differences

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>>41420685
>The average non lifting male that comes in benches 225-250 on their first day

>>41423160
>>41423166
>t. Jason 'Hemingway' Blaha

>>41417885
Muay Thai

>>41422042
>boxing cucks
Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnm6VyFcel0

>>41418351
I disagree a bit.

Obv im a noob with MA but when i spent a week learning some basic muai thai i sparred with a woman that was a bit older than me and about 140-155 lbs (50 less than me).

I would guess that if it was life r death i might still have won, but an untrained guy vs a well trained woman is a closeish match generally. Her knees and kicks were pretty fucking strong just to hold pads against.

Punches not so much but conditioning helps too.

>>41417885
>practical martial art that's not stupid like karate
I believe that you're a girl

>>41417885

Am I the only one to notice that ass?

>>41424719
>not doing both

>Women can't possibly beat guys cause they're weaker
>A woman with like 5 black belts is still going to get her ass rek'd by redneck couch potatoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvSTVp6a19A

>>41421531
breh that was judo

add striking and she'd be toast

>>41424922
Go to bed, joss whedon.

if you get super jacked and 5 black belts, you might be able to beat the creep harassing your counter at the GameStop, maybe even the AMV booth. Probably not though.

>>41424922
>takes world champion and a surprise attack to beat russian drunkard

>>41425073
What, are you going to go "Hey, I'll fight you now" when some drunkass is harassing you on the street?

>>41425124
He wasn't harassing her. She came to him

>>41423544
Dude, no. My roommate for a couple years and his girlfriend were regulars at this MMA gym not too far away from our house.

They were both tiny people and thought they were hot shit because of the MMA training and she mouthed off to some big drunk local hick one time. Dude threw her "blackbelt" ass to the ground in like 2 seconds.

Physics > Martial Arts famalam

>>41423938
I watched a 14 year old girl armbar a 28 year old man twice a couple of weeks ago.