Anyone here ever tried to get into their country's special

>>41390862
Fucking terribly! Hardest shit I've ever done.

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>>41390862

Oh mate! I am actually training for basic physical training for the French Navy.

But the Special Force in France (Commando) has a very special training and very selective training, I am about to train this as well.

A small video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhM8vS2WMcc

The image is the basic training for the Legionnaire. Special part of the French army.

>>41391308

An other video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ONUxS_O4co

I got absurdly close to that green beret. I was training as a communication sergeant, got 90 goddamn weeks into training and then ran into health issues during the final exercise, which led to a medical retirement after 2 years in service, while never being MOS qualified.

>>41391387

How old was you when you start training?

>>41391422
21

>>41390862
>Anyone here ever tried to get into their country's special forces?
Yes

>How did it go?
I was a Batt Boy. It was /fit/ before /fit/ was a thing, anime et all

>>41391308
Hope you do well, but
>The image is the basic training for the Legionnaire. Special part of the French army.
The FFL's basic training is the same as the rest of the French Army, they just have a more rigorous selection.

>>41391387
Robin Sage? Sucks dick, anon. X-Ray?

>>41391438

So you are definitely out of Army?

>>41391456

I will do my best, I have to meet the Marine to give him my engagement document - I can't wait

Mine would be the german KSK.
Fuck that.
Since it's a special force therw isn't much known about what they do.
But what is publicy known is:

The test you have to pass to get accepted consists of:
A week long "hell-march" trough german mountain and woodland, no matter the weather.
120 kilometers, climbing, rappeling, swimming through icecold water, severe lack of sleep, constant hinger because of low food, constant marching, carrying your comrades like they'd be injured, and many many random challenges and other tasks you have to complete such as simulated combat situations or simply mathematcs tests.

At the end of this week, you'll be undertaken the interrogation and torture resistance test, they do not really say what they do to you therw but it's supposed to be "the worst thing you can do to a person in a modern democracy".
I've heard from some people who know a guy that tried to join ksk that they keep you awake, hurt you, blast loud ass fuck metal musik, pour you with either hot or cold water, and show you actual videos of rape, murder, violence etc.

Then you have to perform a math and general knowledge test to get accepted.

If you make it, they training will take a few years, you will be on training for about 300 days a year, all over the world, in the jungle, in arctic regions, in the desert etc.

So you basically have no private life anymore from that point.
I wonder what kind of human beeing can do this shit for long.

>>41391456
Yup. During like the 4th day of Robin Sage (which is 4 weeks for those who don't know) I collapsed and they pulled me out. I kinda felt like a bitch for several months after, but it also turns out I could have prevented it by going to sick call when I first started feeling unwell, but I didn't want to, and the untreated problem became both worse and permanent. Somewhere in my brain are still all the makings of an 18E, but mostly the stuff that's with me still is a bit of Arabic

>>41391504
I didn't have a girlfriend for years in Batt. Most of the guys got their pussy through one night stands, most of those were with fatties. I remember several instances of the platoon sergeant kicking out crying fatties from the barracks while we laughed. The original training cycle was supposed to be a year, but with the GWOT it was compressed into 6 months. For a cycle I think I'd only have like 3 weeks at home with my family. We'd do shit like go to a range and instead of driving there and back every day, we'd sleep and shoot all day. Then our we'd be told "alright, fellas, time to pick up all the brass" and we'd be crawling around, filling our patrol caps. Iraq was a vacation compared to training, I got a lot of time to sleep, eat, and lift, had a pool with a slide for life, all that good shit. It sounds like it sucks to normie, but 99/100 Rangers, probably more, would tell you they'd go back and do it all over again. These men became my family, like actual family, and even in civvy land, we've dropped what we were doing to help a battle buddy in need. I compare my time there to working in the civilian world, and I see a bunch of self-serving people willing to sabotage the group to prove a point, while there were guys throwing themselves down to cover a guy they didn't like or maybe didn't know at all in a firefight. And this relationship carries over with those that came before me and after me

>>41391523
>it also turns out I could have prevented it by going to sick call when I first started feeling unwell
I remember them trying to hammer it into us, nothing wrong with seeing a doc. It's like going to the gym as a DYEL, kinda

>>41390862
75th rgr rgt in 2003. It was tough but I would've done anything to make it.

>>41391504
I signed up for the kommandofeldwebelanwärter program starting in october.
I'm lucky if i make it to EGB though

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>>41391972
Which batt? Prob one of the gay ones

>>41392009
What the fuck is this immigrant shit you're talking about?

>>41392165
I'm talking about german masterrace special forces senpai

>>41392191
Do they accept non-Muslims?

>>41392274
know that they are cracking down on right wingers i don't think so. I was the last one

>>41392291
Hello goyim look at this false flag by these evil white men while ignoring these legitimate muslim terror attacks all over yurop

>>41392009
Wo bist du stationiert du nigger?

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>>41392291

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>>41392328

>>41392328
werde in pfullendorf stationiert sein

Doubt it, most people here love their bench press. It dont mean shit in the military, just exhausts you.


Running, more running, more running, more running. Then once you puked you get to run some more.

Push-ups/curl-ups/pull-ups.

Thats the beauty right there.

Weights once a week. (Squats probably the most useful, and lower back)

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>>41392614
This

You'll be able to do 500 push ups every day because it's all combat specific.
The SEALS on the other hand tend to do more Direct action missions so there bodies look more linebacker style

Went through US Army infantry OSUT with a bunch of 18x guys, so many that half my cycle were them. Another 30 or so had RASP on their contacts. Me, I only had Airborne.

I graduated airborne easily (shit's a joke now) and moved on to my duty station, I think most of the 18x guys went on to selection but didn't pass. The few that I know pass didn't make it through q course, either due to personal reasons or otherwise. One of the RASP guys I was close with ended up not getting selected and got stationed with the 173rd and got out asap.

Now, I would love the opportunity to try out for any kind of spec ops shit while I'm still in, but I know for a fact that I am nowhere near fit enough to make it even half way through a selection. I hear rumors that getting into batt is relatively easy if you have the tab, but I won't be able to attempt the school until like a year from now. Gives me something to train for, though.

>>41392614
>>41392760
Jesus fuck this is retarded

>>41392614
Doesnt your bench increase your push up count?

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Wish I had the body for it, I'm only working on getting in the Navy as a METOC officer.

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I wanted to join Rangers, but my dairy allergies disqualify me from service altogether, which sucks ass. I have no idea what i'll do after graduation considering that was my life's dream but I did get some college acceptance letters so I have that going for me.

>>41392869
>I hear rumors that getting into batt is relatively easy if you have the tab, but I won't be able to attempt the school until like a year from now.
The figure that was going around was that School has a 40% pass rate overall, meanwhile Rangers had a 99.X% pass rate at School. It's not easier to get in if you're tabbed, then you have to compete against their tabbed guys and their E4s and 5s would wipe the floor with you. Most of regiment were Op40s that grew up in batt. I think they're building a pipeline now with RS in there, and they're gonna have more tabbed privates, but we'll see where that goes. Talk to the recruiters, train (learn to ruck and treat it like deadlifts, shit fries your CNS, don't get goaded into doing dumb shit like ruck-running), and put a packet in for selection. Life in regiment is the best preparation for School, you'll do much better and it'll suck a lot less. I dunno what rank you are, so maybe the "relatively easy" comes from the fact that the Officer/NCO RASP is shorter and doesn't have the level of hazing as enlisted RASP. I'd still say get to regiment if you're not an E5 yet

Most of my OSUT was 40s and some 18s. Pretty clear that the military uses the "shot at selection" to fill airborne positions. Must suck when a guy fails selection and then comes to his unit with a shitty attitude, which may be why your buddy from 173 didn't wanna re-up

>>41392919
All the endurance shit means most guys look DYEL.

>>41393009
You've talked to a recruiter? There must be something you can do depending on what your allergy is and the severity

>>41392871
>t. Airman

>>41390862
Spent 5 years as a Royal Marine Commando in the British Army. Not technically SF but I spent a year of that attached to the SBS.

I considered going through the selection process but it didn't line up with my career plan.

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>>41393047

Yeah I did, on his recommendation we handed over my medical record. I took a skin and RAS test with a doctor and he said I'm definitely still allergic and he could not give me a waiver. I tried everything in my power, but it was doomed with the results of those tests.

>>41393110
What advice would you give a young lad joining the armed forces? Also do you get to pick/prioritise what you'd like to go into at the end of the tests or do they just assign you? Its very vague on the site

>>41393076
No, actually, I'm this anon >>41391456 >>41391899

>>41393209
I'd like to hear more on this too >>41393110

>>41393191
Maybe talk to a different recruiter at a different recruiting center. I remember one guy in airborne had fucked up hearing, and he said they just tested his good ear twice. This was when they were desperate for bodies when Iraq and Trashcanistan were hot, but you get my point. Talk to a physician about your allergy, get a specialist, whatever it takes. Even if you can't kick doors, you can still do something. Even our cooks were high speed

Signing an 11x op 40 contract this fall. Anyone have any advice other that the obligatory "don't quit"?

>>41392009
Na denn.
Auf auf!

>>41392274
Although germany in it's current state is nithing but a sad joke, the KSK is something different it seems.
There have been multiple report and cases of Nazi sympathizing within their ranks.
They actually even used nazi insignias once and some of them got fired for it.
I think some of them once said that they see themselfes as the heirs to some Nazi-era special force "kommando Brandenburg" or something like that.
Also their bragadier general repeatly sais that he is concerned about the current mis-management of oir minister of defence.

They seem based desu.

>>41390862
Yes.
Passed.
17 years SAS.
Now retired.

>>41393805
I'm the Ranger anon that's been lurking this thread. What do you wanna know? I know there will be some variance since I went through RIP and you've got RASP.

You need to internalize "don't quit", and think of why you aren't going to quit every time they make you hold your rucks over your heads "until someone quits", or when you get into the back of a deuce and drive from Cole Range only to find yourself back there 'cause you drove in a circle for 20 minutes. Plenty of guys quit there. Make a friend, mine was my bunkbuddy through OSUT and jump. This is especially important, making friends, because unlike RIP you guys can get peered out - but you also get to learn shit, while we were just beaten for a month. And remember that selection is only a measure of if you can survive at Battalion. When I saw new Seals, for example, they had just gotten their tridents and were treated like one of the guys. Meanwhile I was hazed for 18 months before I went to Ranger School. Of the 10 or so guys I came into Batt with, half were gone after a year - there was this constant platoon sized element on the way out.

Know your job, and know it well. They're going to test you, and if they want you to fail, you will. But you need to put just as much effort and do the best job you can. But it's not just going to be smoke sessions until people quit. Obviously you need to be in great shape to get in, especially rucking - some guys were 120 and carrying their own weight. They play mind games, they make you cover your eyes and tell you that you can still be a great American if you're not a Ranger, and that no one is gonna know if you quit because they can't see you. Don't tell them "you won't break me", don't be a tough guy, they're all tough guys and they'll snap you if they want.

What really helped me was getting /fitlit/. Having poetry to repeat to myself on a really shitty ruck kept me sane.

>>41393854
From when to when? Stories? I remember SOCOM loved you guys in Iraq.

>>41393854
Do you rotate the designated man who was in the SAS pub roles or do you stick to your local? ;^)

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Training for BUD/S. My cousin is in Phase 2 rn and is feeding me info. Gonna enlist in May. Feeling good about it but I know it is gonna be a dick dragger.

>>41393047
I'm currently an e-4 thats been a bit of a shitbag for the last year. I wont get asked to be sent to ranger school until I hit 5, but still can volunteer to go as a 4 with my unit. I'm currently in one of the last few LRS units and they like to treat us as if we are training up to go through to get our tab. And for the record, the guy who told me that it's "relatively easy" was a ssg who said it was mostly paperwork, pretty sure he meant at that point in the career for the difficulty. I'm starting to come to the realization that I should at least try for something a little bigger so I can at least say I did something with my time in. Going in to be airborne infantry and getting nothing else really accomplished is gunna sound fucking stupid when I'm out, especially since deployments are becoming a godsend.

>>41391523
Got any tips for anyone wanting to go 18X? I'm well aware of the odds but I'd like to hear from someone who went through.
>>41391456
>Batt Boy
Ricky?

>>41394309
>Ricky?
Trailer Park Boys reference?

>Got any tips for anyone wanting to go 18X?
Get a copy of Get Selected by Col Joseph Martin (RIP) and Rex Dodson

>>41390862
I have a friend who was in a special force unit for guerrilla warfare. They basically get trained to walk extremely long distances behind enemy lines with very little equipment and supplies. Each member of the unit carries backpacks of around 100-110 lbs, and they're specialized in something, radio, explosives etc. My friend said the most successful guys in his unit had good stamina, refused to succumb to fatigue and bad weather conditions, and always put their team first before their own needs. Also this is a nordic country.

>>41394508
>Trailer Park Boys reference?
Was wondering if you were RickyRecon, trip from /k/. I'll definitely check that book out. Also on a bit of a different note, what do you think of Mat Best?

>>41393962
Thanks for the advice. Do you have any reading recommendations? Just finished black hawk down.

>>41391523
Yo, do you have the field book that was made like 40 years ago that all the echos pass around to each other?

>>41394518
Your friend is dead on

>>41394578
Not much of a gun guy besides the stuff that carried over from service.

Don't follow him, I know he's a celebrity, seen him referenced/posted by some other SOCOM guys. Doesn't seem like my style of entertainment, and I'm weary of former Been There, Done That's that try to self-aggrandize and become celebrities after guys like Brandon Webb. If you find him motivating or funny, keep on keeping on.

>>41394653
/lit/ has the "start with the Greeks" recommendations. You get a new perspective when you realize that the greatest minds of ancient times were distinguished soldiers and sailors, and the people "debating" their ideas and concepts don't fully appreciate them because of it. If you're into the war stuff, there war poetry too. Seriously, get into reading, Battalion life has plenty of downtime, I'd think that would be even more relevant now. My care packages were full of books, and sometimes protein powder and food when the S4 decided to "save money" by replacing our protein powder with Otis Spunkmeyer muffins.

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>>41391387
>>41391456
>>41392869
>>41393962


What's up, boyos?
Joined up 11x in 2015. I was the first in my basic training company to score a 300 on a PFT, so they gave me a choice between going to RASP or SFAS. I chose 18x at my drill sergeants behest and ended up not getting selected.
I've spent the last year as SOCOM's bottom bitch cleaning latrines at McKall. I fucked up hard.

For the rest of you guys wondering how to get into American SOF, DO NOT GO 18X.

Went through USMC scout sniper school, not SOF obviously but the hardest thing I've done so far. Shit took me two tries to pass, failed unknown distance shooting my first time.

If I decide to stay in the military I'm gonna try to get an 18x package, most of my buddies are going to MARSOC but I'm pretty sick of the marine corps. I don't know many snipers nowadays that want to stay with the conventional military, which is too bad.

>>41395090

I've met a lot of former Marines here on Bragg.
Unfortunately, you've missed the 18x boat. If you don't make it all the way through the 2 year course, you will be reclassed to some shitty pog ass MOS for the remainder of your contract.
I know former 0311's with multiple deployments getting reclassed to shit like parachute rigger and trucker driver for 4-5 years.

>>41395129
Yeah I figured they would pog me out if I failed but that would be enough motivation to stick it out for me.

It's just a pipe dream of mine, basically a choice between getting out and going to college like I know I should or staying in the gun club and living a life of adventure.

I probably won't end up going for it

>>41395058
sir, yes sir

>>41391308
legionnaire here
you think you're gunna make it, but it'll still be hell, especially the la ferme and kepi blanc walk.

also don't talk about money during the interview process, the superiors hate that shit.

>>41395058
What's the best way to go SF then? I just want to jump out of airplanes and teach third worlders how to do proper jumping jacks.

>>41394309

stretch a lot so you don't get stress injuries..

>>41395637

you pretty much need to get air born when you enlist. to get sf you need to be hot shit and ask for it when you re-enlist ( assuming you don't want officer )

from what I understand 68w is one of the best ways to get an sf contract

>>41395202
Enlist, at least then you'll have money. I wish I would have before college, now my ass is dick high in debt and I'm just as dumb as I was before I enrolled.

Got a friend who wants to join the military, but she is female. She wants to be an officer i think. Good idea for her?

>>41395838
How the fuck would anyone here answer that? We don't know shit about her

how to into Special Activities Division or Task Force 6-26?

>>41395838
no, they ruin the military

>>41392009
>kommandofeldwebelanwärter
Never change, German.

>>41396119
just b urself

>>41396285
I guess if that fails I can try and become a cartel sicario.

>>41392274

/pol/?

any of you fellas have any advice on how to avoid getting caught lying at MEPS? Especially if you were to try for a clearance.

Asking for a friend.

>>41395828
We'll I'm already enlisted my guy so I can either take my gubbmint money and run off to college or continue to live a life of misery

Why is this such a difficult decision....

>>41395838
Good idea for her? Absolutely
Good idea for the military in the long run? Nope

>>41391504
>ass fuck metal
>rape
>murder
>math
>general knowledge
That sounds well rounded.

Anyone here a Royal Marine?

You can't get in the SAS without prior military experience right?

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>>41398039
I usually just buy a ticket.

>>41392322
NADSIS IN BLACKFACE xD

>>41390862
Yeah. I was in the so called special forces called spade. We would be in korpo position daily in front of the great MUKE and would eat soup there, it was awful. Then we would run to the ampumarata and sometimes if the instructor wanted, we would go through the motivationmäki. I graduated on top of my class, packaging makkaras and such in total darkness in the cold forests. On sparkle shift I was always alert and not eating the leftover makkaras at all. After my half year deployement, I was free.

Yup. Kinda.

Had a contract to go SARC during field med school, but dropped myself because I didn't think I'd be good enough to be the recon doc I wanted to be for my marines. Got my orders to Tanks as an FMF Corpsman instead and been here since.

Shit's a gut check, that's for sure. The worst part is having your mates think of you as less than what you are and appearing incompetent.

My advice for those who want to go that route; make sure this is what you REALLY want. Like you would trade your family for this job kind of want.

Hoping to try out for 2nd Commando Regiment (Australia) through the direct recruitment scheme (civilian straight into SF through an accelerated program)

Any Ausbros got advice?

Australia here

Here's a documentary of our SAS-R's selection process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY08ZXSO1CI

Don't know what they're actual training is. But the selection looks fucking grueling.

>>41398298
Brother is a commando. Learn to swim and a learn to run. A lot.

>>41398206
Huutia

>>41398298


I was in the 2nd Commando Regiment in Aus for a couple years after being in general infantry for a lot longer, but I suffered a knee injury (nothing serious at all, I can still squat heavy and do everything I used to do) by falling out of a moving vehicle while deployed.
So now I'm a chef full-time in South Australia for the army. Nothing exciting, I know. But they won't let me do a general infantry role for another 5 years because of my injury, I don't even think I want to be back in infantry in that time, cause I'll be 38 when that happens.

It's tough work, much tougher than any infantry I've ever seen. But I swear to god you get the respect of everyone. I get free gym membership at the fitness club down the road from my house because of it, I'm pretty sure the manager was in the air force a long time ago.

But yeah, do a LOT of swimming and running if you wanna join the commandos. Practice your pull-ups too, every single day until you can hit more every day.

Also, don't ask about the pay and don't tell anyone about your pay. All I can say is you can earn up to nearly double what the pay says on the website.

U.S operation not forces

2011 Made it thorough selection and several months of training. Lost something during an exercise and got washed out. Spent the following 3 years behind a desk.

>>41398360
The SAS recruitment is brutal in every country that has them. Those guys left humanity behind before they were born. True weaponised autism

>>41398391
What sort of numbers do I need to hit?
I'm watching a doco on them rn, and there seems to be a lot of bodyweight +10ish kg exercise

I feel i need to mention that I started to like the desk job that I had and am even going to college to start a career in the same field.

>>41398269
Shoulda gone for it man, the worst they can say is no. Honestly though, like not even trying to be a dick honestly, if you dropped yourself like that you probably didn't have what it takes in the first place. BRC is no joke though especially if you're new to the grunt life.

Swiss Grenadiers

It was fairly intense, real rigorous accelerated training. I wouldn't know how it stacks up against other special forces, but we basically use all the NATO/American handbooks slightly modified for most of the basic training so I imagine it is pretty much the same as any other western army.

However, I went the Sniper route and from what I've seen from other armies I am wholly convinced that the Swiss have the most precise and effective sharpshooting system in the world.

>>41398457
Pay says 80k a year on the .gov website ;^)
But thanks man. Should i aim for 100? 200? 500 pullups/pushups?
4min kilometer? 3min?
2k swim? 5km?

>>41398534
>swiss have the most effective sharpshooting system in the world

As a USMC scout sniper gonna have to ask you to back that up

>>41390862
i did. got rejected because they actually have height requirement which is 6'1

>>41391308
>serving anti-French Macron

you're an idiot

>>41398546

I was able to hit reliably at 1200m regardless of weather conditions using only a simple ballistics chart and windrose.

Granted it only works on a specific rifle with a specific scope using specific army spec ammunition.

We had a US sniper who came in to exchange ideas and methods an he was telling us you guys basically record all the conditions of the shots you take in a notebook if they hit and then flip through it to find the most similar conditions and use those scope settings on a new shot.

Correct me if i'm wrong though please.

That's a silly requirement. Most IIRC most guys were ÷ -2 5 foot 9. The problem with the tall guys at an age wherevmost folks join the service is the lack of coordination. This is a non issue for individuals who are undergoing retraining because they have had more time to grow into their frame.

I do see the benefit of having service members of the similar heights because it would make life easier when they need a partner to jump with.

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Was rejected because of bad knees. Best thing of my life. I served as an APC driver for 3 years instead.
Got payed to lift and save money so now I'm in school for 1 year and I'll work less hours and double the salary.
Thank you armed forces!

>>41398703
New job after 1 year will be less hours and double salary*

For you guys who are trying to get in shape for selection, check out Stew Smith. He has a lot of good programs for free (+e-books if you got the bucks). Been doing his 12 week program myself and it has been a huge help in transitioning from a "powerlifter" into a more endurance based athlete (still run a Texas Method on the side though).

IDF Special Forces reporting in

I was attached to an sf unit as a signal interceptor. Walked around with a big antenna on my back and a terp next to me. They tried to shoot at me first all the time. I wasnt sf but ive done stuff parallel with them. I only did 3 years and went back to desk jockey because it was fucking exhausting. Still the dudes you know while doing that will be closer to you than your fucking spouse.

>>41390862
wasn't allowed into special forces, wasn't allowed into the army.

>>41398782
Why not

>>41398039
SAS is minimum 3 years service or the rank of Sergeant before you can attempt selection, then you have 2 tries and thats it.

Im not sure but I think Marines can only go SBS/SFSG/Arctic & Mountain Warfare Cadre, could be wrong though.

Or you could join R Sigs, do 3 years, become fit as fuck and go for the SF Communicator course and have some tip top clearance and trade skills for when you get out, but thats neither here nor there...

>>41390862
>all these people claiming to be in the military let alone special forces
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Sat Komando

aka Turkish Navy seals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TAxFC08mbk

>>41399005
Youd be surprised how much /fit/ - /k/ crossposting there is. Also most guys who take the army as a serious career consider SF at some point. Note that most people ITT said they tried and failed, or are aspiring to try.

>>41398549
>because they actually have height requirement which is 6'1
What country is this? Not even the SAS has min. height restrictions. In fact I've heard more that being too tall can be a disadvantage.

>>41399038
Some of the best Blades are apparently under 5'7, just short wiry blokes who can keep cracking on. The last thing they want is some 6'8 bloke built like a brick shithouse because hes easier to spot, easier to hit and requires more calories to keep going

>>41393047
Ruck-running. Haha, oh how my L4-L5, and L5-S1 thank life in the 10th MTN infantry for that every day

>>41398594
Hitting reliably at 1200m is pretty impressive not gonna lie. What kind of rifle/ammo were you using? Our standard issue guns and ammo are complete shit, at least in the marines. SOF guys like SEALs and army SF have way better gear.

Recording data is huge for us. I know pretty much by heart the specific scope data to put in for my rifle in given environments but I still use a atmospherics device (kestrel) with a built in ballistic calculator to refine my shots. You can input all your previous data into it so you don't have to flip through a notebook, but we still use notebooks to record data for future use.

Pretty shocked if you guys don't use this. Especially in certain environments like the mountains with gyroscopic wind gusts that are completely unpredictable.

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>>41399048
Yeah that's why I find anon's min. height requirement so bewildering. A friend of mine who was a US Army Ranger tells me that most of the guys he served with were around 5'8 and back in my country we have a max height requirement though I'm not sure what it is.

>>41392291
>cracking down on right wingers
Literally every armed forces is overwhelmingly right wing... with special forces being the most right wing.. how do they even find people then?

>>41399024
Does it make you less of a man if you don't make it though

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Air Force pararescue drop out reporting in. Made it through Indoc course and then got my shit mangled on a ruck. Tripped on a root and snapped my tibia and separated just about every ligament in ankle. My foot was sideways for about 3 days waiting for surgery. Also landed hard on shoulder due to ruck. Greatest time of my life was when I was on Team. If anybody is interested in SpecOps I would look into AF PJ. A lot of prior SEALs and SF guys go into it later in their careers because the mission isn't as harsh psychologically (saving people vs killing people).

>>41399127
Fuck no it doesn't make you less of a man. Most SOF dudes are literally insane. They enjoy misery and thrive on pain. That shit isn't for everyone. I have more respect for someone who tried out for SOF and gave it their best effort but ultimately didn't make it than guys who never even tried.

Anyone know if the Royal Marines give a free ride to uni when you finish? Or is that an American thing?

>>41399127
people die trying to make it

>>41399173
Just look it up.

>>41399173
Google is your friend

https://www.reddit.com/r/britishmilitary/comments/2ety9a/does_the_british_military_offer_anything_like_the/

>>41391308
I dunno about just running for an hour in month 1 although I suppose there are assumptions here.

You're better off imo starting with c25k (timed, i.e. run for half an hour) and doing speed work on the off days, then following a generic timed 5k210k (which more or less means run for an hour). If you need more time efficiency, switch at week 5 or 6 and that'll get you comfortably running good distance with decent speed in a little over 2 months. Running for an hour and a half by the end of the third month would be no biggy then either.

Really generic 5k to 10k timings:
All slow intervals are between 1 minute and 5 minutes. Earlier weeks usually have shorter slow intervals so try 1 minute slow on week 1 and increase to 3 if needed. When the intervals are similar to your last c25k lengths you can add a minute a week as needed (many people will want to run week 4 with a two minute longer break than earlier weeks).
Week
1: run 8 mins x 5
2: 12 mins x 4
3: 18 mins x 3
4: 27 mins x 2

Hopefully you can see the pattern here, by week 5 you could run for an hour. Again this is the point where you could choose to increase time or continue getting comfortable running for an hour.

There are better programs, this is like the absolute bare bones tho. Tweak it as you like. Compare it to whatever.

>>41398965
>Im not sure but I think Marines can only go SBS
SBS is commonly known as SAS + boats and water. Navy lads are often more comfortable with that side of things anyway.

The other bit of confusion comes from Sandringham, obv Navy has their own places for officer training but a lot of people conflate officer training and special forces.

Nothing would stop someone applying but how many people from such and such branch go into whichever special forces is not publically available information.

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>>41392009
Ich bin vielleicht im Oktober oder Januar auch mit dabei, hadere aber noch ob ich mich nicht eher zum Offizier ausbilden lasse, und dann als Quereinsteiger am EFV teilnehme (habe zivil studiert).

Wieso willst du zum KSK?

>>41399173
You attend officer training for 2 years post degree regardless of branch iirc. There's also been some TA type stuff where they pay a good chunk, you just go training for a few weeks a year. The TA training seemed to freak more people out tho.

Training for it right now, and I need advice on running and legwork. I did a 23' 5k two weeks ago and this monday I couldn't manage more than 16' at my 5k pace - my legs were giving out because of fatigue, mostly felt around my shins and the front of my ankles. Anyone has an idea on what could be causing this?

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>>41399358
For legs do high bar squat and dead
For ankle mobility , mobility..

>>41399358
Sort out your diet and take it easy for a week or two. Sub running for cycling and drills like spidermans, the wall push thing, duck walks etc

If you aren't doing those do them as part of your warm up.

Most likely culprit imo is too low a cadence/too long a stride length which leads to landing harder than your ought to be. Should be 180-220 steps per minute roughly.

>>41399296
EGB is just a status some units like Fallschirmjäger have or not?
Don't the KSK with their far superior training and skills always have EGB anyway?
Or is there actually an EGB status for KSK?

>>41398555
Legionnaires only pledge their loyalty to the Legion.

Anyone else training for the new Rhodesian army?

>>41399552
EGB is kind of similar to the US Rangers but not really. They have their own selection but are still part of of a Fallschirmjägerregiment as a company-sized element. The KSK is completely detached from all that and doesn't have anything to do with the paratroopers.

>>41390862
spec forces is a joke, and the physical reqs are doable for any average physically active 18-21 yo WHO DOES NOT WORK OUT (some random sports playing is more than enough)

also, in any random crossfit comp they would come in last place

and crossfit is as we all know it absolutamente shit tier

ALSO

in any serious running comp (any distance) they would come in last place

AND
even in any speed walking comp they would come in last place


the nutrition in the field they get is also shit tier for gains, you will constantly lose muscle during service if you go in as a fit dude

as you can clearly see in >>41391308 they have absolutely no idea what they are doing

>>41392760
lol, what DYELS

>>41392760
>in army
>wearing fucking kneepads on MUH KNEES

kek do they also have tampons in?

>>41399601
This most military guys would get absolutley destroyed on the track or ob the trail by most highschool athletes

>>41399625
Aren't SEALS in the Navy? That's why they require the knee protection m8.

>>41399627
>>41399601
Seems you're making a stronger argument for the irrelevance of track and field more than anything.

>>41399625
Where else would they be wearing kneepads if not on their knees?

>>41399598
yes that's what i thought.

>>41399662
how about they don't wear any kind of pussy pads

takes <2 weeks to get used to falling down/standing for long periods on your knees without protection even in rough terrain

>>41391438
You actually got through selection outta basic? Though the whole enlisting "18x" was a meme to get people to sign up for the infantry

>>41399088
You haven't read the news?
They're doing thorough searches of all military bases in search of far right personnel.

>>41399724
They finally getting the right wing death squads organized? It took long enough.

>>41397167
>being this removed from the world's politics.
whew lad

>>41399724
guess they're scared of a military coup, kek

>>41398298
I did this program years ago. Was challenging and met some lifelong mates. I hope for your sake they have cleaned the process up a little. Shit was a mess back then.
Run/swimming is hugely important. Get your body weight exercises down pat as well.!

MARSOC selection and training is definitely the hardest shit I've been put through. Its not about being fit, its all mental bullshit fueled by pure hatred of yourself and your life decisions.

>>41399836
Thanks man, I'm just hoping I'll be able to do all the tactical and firearms stuff because I'm a civvie

>>41399769
>being this removed from reality

>>41399697
>pussypads
>voluntarily fucking your knees to be a MAN
Fuck off retard

>>41399601
Dude you clearly have no idea what you're talking about or are baiting hard or just have a chip on your shoulder or something. SOF guys are pretty much in peak physical condition in all things relating to military fitness. They're probably not going to beat someone who's specifically training for a certain event but that's far from the point. They probably wouldn't do very well in the NFL either. Their missions require them to ruck long distances with heavy weights with minimal sleep and nutrition, there's no sport for that but if there was they'd probably be the best at it.

I don't know what you're trying to imply but if you're implying that your average civilian can compete physically with your average special operator you're pants on head retarded. The minimum standards you mentioned are well known to be bare minimums and if you're just meeting those you're going to get eaten alive. On top of that I've seen olympic-tier athletes break down in the middle of rucks when they tossed CS gas at us with no gas mask, so to a certain extent it doesn't even matter how physically fit you are, if you don't have the mental toughness to go along with it.

Am I being trolled?

>>41399697
>do that shit every day with heavy ass equipment
>have to walk 23492049380 km
>bursitis out the ass

You enjoy your unnecessary injuries m8.

>>41391504
C-can you be raped for real?

I come from a shitty third-world country with a shit millitary, so nah.
I did seriously consider it at one point though.

>>41400055
yes

>>41399923
Agreed. I'm the PJ candidate from above. We had collegiante swimmers and track guys on my team and they dropped out. It's not about the physical capabilities in single units. It's the cumulative effect of all the smoke sessions. We were training for about 10 hrs. every day. 2 hour pool sessions followed by soaking wet ruck runs then calisthenics then another pool session all while being mentally fucked with. Yet again most fun I've ever had

>>41390862
Shit, anon. That's actually the only reason I'm on /fit/. I've got one more year of uni, then I'm off to BCT and Jump School. If things go well, I'll be dropping my SFAS packet in the next 5 years.

>>41392614
THIS. RUN.

My old man is retired 5th Group and it's funny hearing how high the attrition rate is for SEALS at Ranger School because they're so big and bulky but can't run as well as the kids from the 82nd.

>>41395058
>Don't go 18x
I'm happy you say that, gives me some more validation for wanting to take the long route. Thanks, Amon!

>>41395637
>enlist 11x
>be pt stud and good leadership skills at basic
>kickass at jump school (not a difficult task from what I've heard)
>try to get 82nd or 173rd
>put your time in with airborne unit, really learn your light infantry tactics
>seriously, that shit should be second nature for you
>Get to Ranger School (read: not "RASP")
>if you have the option/timing, go for Jump Master, but you can get that when you're in Group, just don't show up with no Ranger Tab, that's frowned upon.
>drop SFAS packet when you're able to
If you're officer, that won't be told you pin O3.

>>41399869
what was it like? i dropped from recon from pneumonia, im debating either going back to recon or to try A and S

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>>41393962
>What really helped me was getting /fitlit/. Having poetry to repeat to myself on a really shitty ruck kept me sane.

Fellow /fitlit/ here. What poetry you like, senpai?

>>41400297
>>41399869
also wondering, been gathering info on this for a couple years now while in college.

>>41400055
Now that we have so many muslims and africans here, i'd count on it mate!

Also KSK, doesn't actually stand for "Kommando Spezialkräfte" but for "Koran Siegeskämpfer which translates into "quran victory warriors"

The more you know bud

>>41400115
>>41400605
Details?

No but I washed out of basic after two weeks.

>>41390862
In two more years i'll be 1LT (P)
W-wish me luck at SFAS, /fit/.

>>41390862
>first round of selection
>have tattoos on my hands and throat
rejected.jpg

>>41400838
Which group would you most like to end up in, assuming you get selected and make it through the Q course?

>>41391308
Hey, i made this image :)

Glad to see someone saving it and using it!!!

The workout plan here is based on Charles Stoengs legionnaire fitness program, pre-selection for the foreign legion in France

The only things I added were
>lifting
>swimming

A bientot mon amie!

>>41395428
hey legionnaire

not him but, what other advice can you give me for selection? I am leaving for paris in 6 months, currently cutting now and abandoned all my strength work for 12 rep sets, bodyweight excercises, rucking and cardio.

any advice is appreciated

i already know im setting myself up to go through hell... i accept it. I love getting the shit beat out of me.

>what company are you with?
>have you seen many deployments?
>do you think the legion is likely to be called to war soon, due to frances current political climate?

Merci, a bientot!

I'm shooting for CRO and going to Phase II in a year, here's the tips that I got from people who gone through phase II, actual CRO's and SERE guys

Swim and Run, do either one every day. A CRO told me that the number one thing he regretted when preparing for Phase II is that he did weights too much over swimming/running

Ditch the weights and start doing calisthenics up the ass and focus on practical strength that can help with long rucks

Swim some more and run some more. Do rucks run/marches every saturday.

Also the biggest thing he told me is take as long as you need to prepare, don't go until you are absolutely ready and when you actually get to the indoc course just look for small things to keep you going and even if you do fail try again. The CRO I talked to failed his first time going to indoc because he fractured his ankle during a ruck however got through the second time.

Is 31 too old to start all this? I have a degree and have been in the gym for 8 year. fantastic shape.
Would it even be worth it?
I crave purpose

>>41400055
Depends on your definition of rape. If you go by the current "any physical contact that isn't 'yes means yes'", then yeah, you're gonna get raped a lot. SOF docs have been known to probe assholes then leave the probe in during the following exercise for the lulz

>>41400958
> I have been in the gym for 8 years, fantastic shape

Youd hope so! But in all seriousness, what do you mean by fantastic shape? Massive and bulky, wiry and functionally strong? I can tell you now, if youre massive and bulky you wont make it unless you can somehow run like a cheetah

>>41391384

Does it look like we speak frog language?

>>41400887
10th. I speak German and French so Europe would be a good AO for me.

>>41401076
If you join the legion then you must croak the frog language.

>>41401056
natty, strong lean and mean. Alot of reps, well defined.

>>41401101
>10th
My nigga

No joke, I'm after the same thing. Currently minoring in German and my gf is a French major, lel.

Make sure you focus on German, though. French is more likely to end you up in Africom somewhere.

>>41401175
its your joints that are going to be truly tested my friend

>>41401251
yea 31 almost 32. I'm still just as strong and workout just as hard as I did at 23.
But I am starting to feel my age a little.
Can I be on TRT ?

>>41401043
But you wont be raped by a gang or getting your dick milked against your will right?

>>41399296
Wenn du als Offizier reinkommst klar, warum nicht, ausser du suchst mehr action dann würd ich es als Feldwebel machen. Was hast du studiert?

>Wieso willst du zum KSK?
War sowas wie ein Kindheitstraum und bin jetzt noch in der Blüte meiner körperlichen Leistungsfähigkeit. Außerdem ist die Ausbildung geil und natürlich auch die Einsätze danach

>>41401247
Deutsch kann ich schon fließend. Ich war damals Austauschschüler. Französisch fällt mir ein bisschen schwieriger.

>>41401385
Ayyyy, ein Deutscher, der in seinem Special Forces reinkommen möchte. Ich bin >>41401536.
Hoffentlich sehen wir uns eines Tages auf derselben Seite des Schlachtfeldes.

>>41399724
Just saw it now... Germany is fucked

>>41400605
KSK stands vor Kreissparkasse

>>41393209

You can list your preferences, but there's no gaurantees even of you make the grade. They only need so many sappers for example.

As far as military life goes, it's not for everybody, and that's fine. It's hard but try and remember it is still just a job. They try and wrap you up in a lifestyle that takes up your whole existence so it's important to maintain your relationships with civilians to keep your perspective correct.

Also most people go in the military because they're dumb as fuck and can't do anything else. You're now part of these dumb fucks so expect to be treated like a child or mild retard because of it.

And have a get out plan, proper soldiering is a young man's life. Once you're in late 30s and 40s you will start to fall apart. I know NCOs in their late 40s who can barely walk. Personally i always knew I wouldn't stay in long term, the plan was to get some tours under my belt, go private and get out completely by the time i turn 30.

>>41399601
>and crossfit is as we all know it absolutamente shit tier
Wake up, it's 2017!

>>41401385
Int. BWL und Management. Bist du jetzt schon beim Bund oder startest du im Oktober?

Mein Bedenken ist dass man als Offizier recht wenig im Feld ist bzw. wenn dann in einem Zelt während die Kommandofeldwebel die tatsächlichen Einsätze ausführen. Einer vom PwTCalw meinte das Kommandooffiziere nach wechsel keine weitere Spezialisierung erhalten; anders als die Fw die ja eine Kompaniespezifische Ausbildung + die Spezialisierung im Trupp bekommen.

Das hört sich zwar blöd an aber ich möchte eigentlich Kämpfen und mich nicht in erster Linie um Ausrüstung oder Planung kümmern. Hast du da vielleicht mehr Einblick wo denn genau die Unterschiede zwischen Offizier und Feldwebel im tatsächlichen Einsatz sind? Als einer der noch nie bei der Bundeswehr war tue ich mich schwer.

Falls du Lust hast mir noch ein wenig über deine Erfahrung mit dem PwT oder auch der tatsächlichen Verpflichtung zum Anwärterprogramm zu erzählen würde ich mich über eine Mail freuen:

[email protected]

>>41391504
>>41400055
I saw an interview with some us special forces guy who went through that type of "training" and he said they locked him in a tiny box for literally 24 hours.

>>41401876
Yup. They also put you in a big cage with like 20 other people where you all only have standing room for about 3 days.

>>41401876
That's ho af desu

>>41401876
>>41402019
can you quit?
What is the point of that? To make sure you would rather die than tell secrets?

That would be where I quit. Claustrophobia would give me a panic attack and I would die

>>41402555
you can't die from a panic attack

>>41402555
You have to be able to do whatever it takes as the moment demands as well as be psychologically strong enough to not be a total wreck when captured or stuck somewhere.

You probably wouldn't get as far as anything like that tho. But part of it is also desensitization, you become someone who doesn't just panic.

>>41402679
>>41402764
you two went through something like that?

>>41402810
Yes and now i'm a med student telling you: You won't fucking die unless you have heart issues but in that case you wouldn't even make it to SERE-Training or even joining SOF

>>41402848
i would panic tho and passout freak the fuck out. could i not pass out and choke on my tongue

>tfw no one will ever kidnap you and then will force you to millitary rape torture sex

>>41395058
SIR,YES SIR

>>41402938
Tongue choking is a lot rarer than we are generally led to believe.

>>41402848
Training for CCT. Any tips?
My 1.5 mile time is 8:30
Can do 60 pushups in 2 minutes and 80 situps in 2 minutes, 15 pullups in 1 minute
Only thing I cant do is the 50m underwater.

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>>41403431
Try this.
Someone else posted it in the last SOF thread. This book will get you through BUD/S so it might get you through the CCT pipeline. With this program you will do 50m underwater easily.

Most important thing is willpower though. Just don't be a pussy

>>41390862

I was thinking about it but minimal sleep fucks me up far more than the average person.

I turn from "good tactical thinker mission on the mind yadda yadda" to "Ughhhhh". Lack of sleep makes me a retarded person.

I'm jealous of people who can function on low sleep.

>>41403431
>My 1.5 mile time is 8:30
That's good. How about distance and weighted work?

>>41403431
Also do exercises for your shoulders as most people got dropped because of shoulder related injuries. So if you have a suspension trainer in your gym do specific workouts to strengthen your rotator cuff etc.

Read into it here: https://www.trxtraining.com/train/trx-for-rotator-cuff-tear

All the responses to how to become a Green Beret, assuming you pass, are very confusing. What should I do with the belief that I wont wash out in order to get there?
What order of enlistment should I do, how do I do it, and what should i avoid?
18x seems like a mistake based on a couple anons but what is the chance assuming I pass SFAS that I will earn the beret, and based on what?

no, only room temperature retards who cant hack it IRL join the army

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>>41403735

>>41403594
Thanks will look into it. If not cct I want to anything Frontline.
>>41403658
I haven't trained for weighted I dont know where to start. I havent read anywhere that CCT needs to do ruck march
>>41403704
Got it will do, I stopped lifting weight and have gone full body weight, cardio and swimming

Must be good to be from a country whose army doesn't do shit

You can get fit and act like a tough guy protecting the queen's palace or something and never be at risk of getting killed

>>41403735
T. Office wagecuck

>>41403875
You do realise the Queens regiments do combat tours, and are on rotation so whilst one company/battalion is doing ceremonial duties the others are doing military shit? Or are you talking more like the Swiss guards at the Vatican

>>41398734
Puts the "special" in special forces

>>41390862
It went OK until swim qualification. I was a strong swimmer but not strong enough.

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>>41403727
Chances are very low desu.
Obviously I don't know your stats, you could be a total stud.
The issue is that you can get selected, but that's only the first road block.
You still have to make it through the 2 year Qualification Course it takes to earn the beret and your "long tab".
I washed out last June and have been stuck in a purgatory battalion waiting to be reclassed to some pogey job.
It hasn't killed my dedication however and I'm trying out again in August.

people here are saying don't do 18x, but Get Selected says they have a higher pass rate, and there's an 18E on /k/ who did 18x, i think its just a matter of preparation (physical fitness, mental resoluteness, and land navigation which is very important)

There should be a /SOF/ general for anons trying to get fit for selection

>>41405387
It would probably be full of anons who somehow participated in the Iranian Embassy Siege, LRRP in Vietnam and Bravo Two Zero all at once

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I wanted to go because my dad threatened to send me to a military school during my last months of middle school. So I thought that in order to have no problems I had to get into the army

But when I told him that I wanted to go to that school he told me not because according to him in his time several soldiers came to torture and rape other soldiers


>He never threatened to send me to the army

>i only had bad grades
mfw i dat niqqa didnt make his word

>>41405296
the army and the navy needs to stop offering 18x and BUDS contracts to kids fresh off the street

that recruiting demographic has historically the lowest pass rates going through those and similar training pipelines

>>41393009
>dairy allergies disqualify you from the military
>the military is getting less and less White every year
How does this happen?

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>>41405296
The game has changed in the last year or so.
Rumor has it, about 500 guys went up for selection but got stuck in summer hold (myself included), 30 made it through it the summer and got to go to actual SFAS.
Of those 30, only 18 were selected.
The sergeant in charge of student company was a hard ass tab protector that told us multiple times he'd rather have us die during our smoke sessions than see us earn a beret.
Two different dudes fell into comas during those 15 weeks of summer hold. One got rabdo and had a portion of his leg amputated.
That SFC has been under investigation as far as I know and will probably face a court-martial
eventually.

Anyway, I've been told personally by the cadre that they're looking to start shutting down the x-ray program. GWOT is slowing down and there's no longer a need for the "off the street" approach to training.
SF wants to start recruiting more from within Big Army, like pre-2004.

My advice is go for RASP. It's easier to get than 18x enlistment anyway.
And if you wash out, they just send you to the 82nd as airborne infantry.

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>want to join the army
>If i join now, ill get out at 27 with no qualifications
>My country army mainly does peace keeping missions in Africa
>The special forces are supposed to nigh impossible to get in
>Just want to serve my country

>>41405754
Then join a trade, i.e engineers, signals, mechanic, cyber.

>>41405754
>Just want to serve my country
>a bloo bloo bloo but only if everything is exactly how i want it

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>>41405807
i'm sorry im not strong enough ok?
I'm just scared of being late 20s with no prospects

>>41405796
I considered that but I'm heading to college in steptember and i dont even know how to get in for the cyber part of the army

>>41405854
> do degree in cyber security
Or
> download Kali linux and fuck about with Armitage
Or
> join Signals and go for Electronic Warfare
Or
> join Intelligence and go for cyber

>>41403840
I think CCT do have to do a timed ruck march, but don't take that as gospel. I only repeat stuff I've heard and I have misremembered such things before now.

>>41405754
>The special forces are supposed to nigh impossible to get in
Faggot, no, hold up, you're a quadruple faggot, you're on /fit/ nigger, there's training and fitness advice all over you, fucking read them and train by them, then go enlist

you've got nothing to lose

also, which country?

>>41405890
Ok, fair enough anon, Ill try. desu i think i'm just lazy/scared
>>41405951
[spoiler] Ireland [/spoiler]

>>41405994
> Ireland
> military

Welp, just hop across to Blighty and join a proper army (no offense). A lot more job choices, opportunities and possibilities, especially in cyber. Also, you may be lazy, but cyber is literally the laziest possible job in the whole military. A medical officer literally told me they could wheel you into your med exam and as long as you werent deaf or blind theyd pass you, thats how low the physical requirements are.

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>>41406199
No offense but from the amount of shit i would get for joining the brits, it wouldn't be worth it.
Its almost totally unfathomable to some people to do that.
Especially the "Up da ra, Chucky ar al" retards

>>41406334
Theres plenty of Irish lads in the british army. Everyone gets ribbed for something, the worst youll get is the nickname 'Paddy' and a few potato jokes. If you were going infantry the banter would be more severe but you arent planning on going infantry so it would be light hearted. If youre going to join ANY army, you need to develop a thick skin.

>>41401385
>>41401756
Eyyy, ich dachte, Bernds hängen nur auf /int/ und /b/ ab?
Aber geil, wollte selbst mal zum Bund, aber mit -12 Dioptrien geht das halt schlecht. Außerdem hätten die mich sofort mit einer 14 von 88 bewertet.

>>41401553
Aber klar doch! Erbfeind hin oder her, wir sind alle weiss, Europäer und (hoffentlich) Christen.

>>41406434
Nah, i can handle bants with the lads with brits, I dont mind the ones I've met
Its just back home, it'd be different.
Some people here think being patriotic means hate the british and i would be excelled from some parts of my community for it

>>41406471
Well then those people are stuck in the past and clearly dont remember the IRA blowing up irish civvies and generally acting like a mafia, making it hell for people who lived in N. Ireland.

Up to you though mate, your life, your home, your choice.

>>41406510
What a total wazzock posting.

>>41406510
Its mainly young lads who never lived through it
plus how its taught in school uis basically "history: How the english raped ireland"
I say the reason they teach it like that though is to control the opposition so no one will notice how the government is importing cheap labor

>>41406529
I got taught economics by an Irish bloke who used to work for Guiness as a lease rental collector. Guiness would lend X thousand pounds to pubs and bars in return for a percentage of their sales output, i.e they have to stock and sell a certain amount of Guiness. He said the worst part about his job was the IRA going in and telling these small pubs that they wanted a cut or outright took the pub over, hence the pubs would be unable to pay or he would have to negotiate the pubs debts with IRA members. He had to deal with this a shitload, it wasnt an isolated one time thing, and this guy is as patriotic about Ireland as it comes, and even he says all the IRA did was fuck over their own people.

Say what you like, its subjective, but the whole 'hurr durr brave irish lads fighting off the ebil english invaders' is woefully naive. The only people who really liked the IRA was Al Qaeda because the IRA bought guns from them.

>>41393110
>Spent 5 years as a Royal Marine Commando in the British Army. Not technically SF but I spent a year of that attached to the SBS.
You need punching int he back of the head for being a mong.

>>41407003
Waltenkommando or a few cans short of a six pack? Cant believe I missed that

>>41407035
He claims to be in the Army but also a Marine, you can be an Army Commando or a RM Commando but not both at the same time.

>>41407346
Yeah im aware, I just scrolled past it without registering it, hence the question; walt or a few cans short of a six pack?

>>41391308
>50 chins (overhand)

?

>>41407580
Both usually, he probably walks around with a replica VC.

>>41407631
Probably also best mates with John Macaleese, Andy McBlab and was the first man on the balcony at the embassy siege

>>41407720
The SAS had a peak strength of 230,000 in 1980

>>41407720
He was all 3 of those, he just changed his false moustache between signing books.

>>41407760
Wouldnt surprise me, at least 1 per pub, not to mention a few thousand handling their social media...after Call of Duty 4 came out, the Army website had to change its FAQ because the most frequently asked question was 'can I join the SAS?!?'

>>41407770
Well at least he was in the most ally time for tactical moustaches the world has ever known

Thinking about CCT or Special Tactics Officer. Just worried my fucking RETINAS aren't good enough to pass MEPS.

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You military types have a real special way with curse words and acronyms and I always enjoy reading your threads.
Much respect boys, I know everyone is sick of the "thank you for your service" shit but respect for living a disciplined and often dangerous lifestyle, whatever your reasons.

>>41407975
Tea and medals mate.

Mostly just the tea though

>>41408129
Plus the breakfast rat packs, not the veggie ones though since even my pet rats spat out those veggie "sausages" and I have seen those mental fucks eating candles.

>>41408151
No way, I was the bloke in a thread a few weeks ago talking about the minging veggie sausages, what a coincidence

How you holding up mate?

>>41407975
>reasons
Does being too retarded to do anything more mentally demanding then milking cows or being yelled at count as a reason.

>>41408129
You UK lads are alright, but you should try fighting the local brown people more.
>>41408208
Thats a reason, yes

>>41408258
In the past few years we've been a bit preoccupied fighting foreign brown people.

Lets not go there broseph, you dont mention the muslims and we wont mention the hispanics..

>>41408274
Hey we elected a guy pretty much entirely based on BUILD WALL.
You guys elected a muzzie mayor of
London
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>>41390862
No, I'm a Marine, I'm satisfied with that. Special forces would kill me.

>>41408274
Same shits happening in New Zealand, I live Deep South so it's not really bad. But last month a white person fish and chip shop got sold to some Asians. Did you notice a runaway effect once the fish and chip shops started turning muddy?

>>41408291
Anon, the UK is still 87% white. The US is 56%. And the majority of your newborns aren't white. Its a bit late for that wall.

>>41408320
The wall was never to keep them out, rather to keep them in.

i was physically and mentally fit for applying but i got denied for having eaten accutane

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>>41390862
I want to but I'm getting fucking old brehs.... 24

Is it too late? How late is too late for SOF?

>>41406806
You don't know what the IRA is or was, stop talking shite m8.

>>41410740
Very few people can just go untrained civilian directly to SOF. Chances are you aren't an exception.

It's not too late, I know guys that joined at 28 and ended up being special operators. But you gotta put in your time as a regular grunt first.

>>41395428
I went to Aubagne slept in a dorm with like 50 Greeks, Italians and eastern europeans and then got kicked out on the second day after they said I had shit knees. On reflection I'm glad, it didn't look like the best set up, full of gooks too.

Any ausfags here?
Has any anons made it into 2CDO, and was it via direct entry?

>>41392009
Kleiner Tipp : laufen laufen laufen. Keine Kilometer machen, sondern stunden. 90 min mindestens durchlaufen. Und mach jede zweite woche nen 15-30km marsch mit 20kg.
t. Anwärter hier

>>41399601
youre a moron

special forces and military training isnt about being the best athlete. its about being able to perform under extreme mental and physical stress of battlefield conditions

they arent trying to set the next 1500m world record you utter idiot

Anyone in the RAAF here? Joining up in june

>>41410740
It's never too late bitch my friend whose 24 as well just went to SF selection 2 weeks ago. Haven't heard from him since but he's probably still in the program.

>>41410740
you are the perfect age bro, not too young and stupid not too old or broken

>>41411141
I work on a RAAF base seems like a pretty good job

>>41410740

Nah, it definately isn't too late. 24 isn't old, you are a young man. I recall one of my countrys SF officers lamenting the fact that they can't get older guys to try out. I guess they also value the wisdom (debatable) that comes with age.

>>41411392
Tier one officer here. Won't identify which or where. Won't provide proof.

I'm 28. Unit's average age is about 25, officers about 30.

If you want to get in, you need to be able to do the following:

>Run
>Navigate
>Carry a heavy pack/load for long distances
>Think quickly and clearly
>Pass the good bloke test

You need to do them always. Under massive fatigue, day or night. Don't be a cunt either. You will get rejected if dudes hate you.

The unit can train pretty much everything else. Follow the training programs the units provide. They are accurate, if you do them and can exceed them without cheating and while doing normal pt you will give yourself the best chance you can have.

There's always a chance you get injured on selection so good luck with that. Mobility and flexibility helps. So do some fat reserves because they will starve you on the course.

Fit, fat, flexible. Best way to go.

I'm happy to answer general questions.

>>41410740
>is 24 too old

Is this bait?

I'm certain that they give age waivers too, there is 30 year olds who go in

>>41401361
Just pay a mistress for christ's sake.
Or get into the local bdsm scene. Or do neither of the above. Just make sure to leave my board.

>>41411441
Any tips for surviving demarcation/extreme sleep deprivation?

>>41411484
Work for the lads around you. Forget about you. Work for your team. You'll get broken up into sections. If you go into your pain cave, you'll be selfish and they won't select you. Selection is about picking someone who will be a part of the team. Someone who will stay calm with their team in the most testing, frustrating and fucked up environments and situations.

If you're on your own, there's not much you can do but try and get through it. Don't try and cheat/break the rules if you think they aren't watching. There is always someone, something watching. If there's not, they will follow your position via GPS trackers.

>>41411441
What would you say is the maximum age someone could be and become an Army Ranger or something of that nature?

Do you already have to be in the military for a large number of years for that to happen?

>>41411519
Unsure on rangers specifically.

Beyond 35 you'll be up against the wall physically. I've seen 38 year olds pass selection though.

Depends on the service and country. I had 7 years service when I passed. Most requires some kind of prior service. The time is almost always good for you though.

>>41411441
Do you think I'll have a better chance to make it if I enlist after graduating uni or should i go in while i'm still 20?
t. aussie

>>41411564
Enlist as commando?

You won't get in most likely, not saying anything about you personally you're probably a top bloke but right now the Army does not need more SAS/Commandos that's why the acceptance rate as Assessment Session alone is 4% let alone when you actually get in and have to be tested to become one.

They want older people I think too.

>>41411564
What unit are you considering?

Graduate. They will drill down on you leaving things incomplete in life during your psych and selection if you don't.

Also, the army and SF will always be there. You have plenty of time to do that stuff after you graduate. SF units like people with unique skills and knowledge too. Smart people make smart organisations.

Also, if you join and want to go SF, don't tell anyone that ever. Don't discuss it with anyone until you're ready to apply for selection. Train quietly and keep it to yourself.

>>41411585
>don't tell anyone that ever

Why's that?

>>41411592
Because people will think you are a retard for wanting to do something you know nothing about.

People will think that you think you are better than everyone else.

People will give you shit about it every day.

You will become a joke. No matter how fit or smart you are. Imagine being called 'sas cat' or 'commandoooo' before you've even graduated recruit training

>>41411592
Because your ass is getting fired if your mum talks about how proud she is of her SF son on Facebook. Don't trust people, they like to gossip.

>>41411658
Not really that. That's only if he makes it.

>>41411611
nice dubs

makes sense though, thanks for the answer.

>>41411675
No worries anon.

I'm getting on the beers now. If the thread dies I'll post in future ones.

>>41410845
> t. Butthurt paddy who doesnt want to accept the truth

>>41411584
>>41411585
alright thanks mates, sounds like I was about to make a bad decision
Guess I'll finish uni and see if the situation's changed by then, then see how far I get.

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>>41390862
>tfw you want to be in special forces
>tfw myopia and light atopic dermatitis

>>41412234
Bitch just lie. Obviously you don't want it very badly. Never gonna make it

>>41412234
get eye surgery

>>41412234
Just go in and ask the recruiters what the armys policy is. If youre in the US, youre lucky, they can help streamline getting laser eye surgery. In the UK and other places its a 12 month wait afterwards to make sure your eyes have adjusted properly, but its still very attainable. If you wanted it that bad, youd be looking for any and every opportunity.

>>41412234
You're special to me anon :')

>>41395058
SIR, YES SIR

>>41390862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6pSe3Kv0U

not very "special", but a lot of blisters and muscle pain.

>>41395058
SIR, YES SIR

I'm really good at running
does this make me a desirable candidate for any special ops running assassin type stuff? (idk I was thinking we could chase foreign politicos until they passed out from exhaustion a la african hunters)

>>41409845
Wait this is a DQ? What if it was years ago?

>>41412658
Are you pants on head retarded?

>>41412658
Start running with 75 pounds on your back then we can talk

>>41412255
>>41412286
not allowed in my country, also with dermatitis you 100% out of army

>>41399724
What is the point of this? Left winger types do not want to serve in the military, aside from women
If they kick a right winger out, another right winger will take his place

>>41390862

I've had three friends get close to Green Beret

First one tore his hamstring so bad the tendons had to be surgically reattached, was booted from the program after taking longer than a few months to recover. Deployed with my unit.

Second one had shin splints so bad that in recovery bone began growing outward. Needed surgery to correct it, during surgery there was a freak accident and they cut a whole bunch of tendons and ligaments. The guy contemplates having his leg amputated below the knee every day because it slows him down. He was a semi-pro rock climber before he joined and he is pound for pound the strongest dude I knew at 255, even with the injury.

The last one was a former college football player who got as far as Robin Sage but had some medical condition arise that pulled him out. I can't remember what the condition was but it involved his intestines.

All 3 guys were sent to my unit after washing. All 3 of them were absolute PT monsters, but their bodies just couldn't take it anymore.

I get it, push people to the point of breaking to see what they're made of - but honestly, there comes a point where you're just losing quality potential. The fuck do I know though? I'm just a basic ass line medic.

I've thought about going SF through the National Guard. Maybe in a few years idk.

>>41412752
>>41413088
FUCKIN BAITED

>>41414282
> post like a fucken spastic
> get called out for being said spastic
> le 'LELELEL I WUS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE DUMB HAHA' attempt to get out of it

We know it, you know it, lets dispense with the silly games shall we.

>>41411441
What are you doing on /fit/?

>>41415024
Aussies are drawn to 4chan like moths to a light