>be me >work mostly with women >lunch time, bring home

Yeah, it's called self-loathing

A healthy woman has more fat and less muscle than a healthy man, a much lower TDEE, very different hormones and the complete lack of willpower and discipline you'd expect after being coddled by society for their entire lives.

So yes, it's probably harder.

>>41333649
Seriously though,
Do hormones matter much?

>>41333487
No but don't try to tell them that
Any effort to educate a female will come across as beligierent criticism
Insecure cunts

>>41333721
Yes. Yes they do.

>>41333721
Yes. It's probably even harder for single women to lose weight because they are fucking crazy.

>>41333721
Yes when your a nigger and have have that much more tesosterone flowing through you, you can just keep going and going

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>>41333832
Elaborate

>>41333893
Testosterone is a literal muscle production hormone, and aside from general increased activity is a primary driver for men to be able to consume significantly larger TDEEs without becoming fatasses.

Estrogen and progesterone on the other hand are very present in regulation of bf% and a hormonally healthy woman who is not working her ass off would have a pretty hard time falling below 25% bf without intentionally starving herself because her reproductive functions (which are genetically generally prioritized over "aesthetics" or what have you) will stop working much below 15% bf.

That's not to say the same general rules don't apply to women, calories in calories out and watch your macros will still get you into the right direction. Hormonally healthy women will just lose fat at a lower rate generally because fat retention is key to keeping ovulation and fertility going as normal.

People have spent significantly more time under evolutionary scales being scarce for calories rather than drowning in them, and reproducing is a fairly calorie intensive job, so it is just a bit of intuitive sense really that the ones who naturally do that calorie intensive job tend to store energy in the most calorically dense form more easily.

>>41333893
Again, that's not to say that women can't lose weight through consistent effort and dietary impulse control (which most lack).

If women do the diet and excercise bit consistently and eat a healthy tdee along with a multi-vitamin and all that, it shouldn't be much harder to keep the weight off than men, but men having testosterone factories in there nuts and women having oestrogen which prioritizes fat retention during caloric deficits is a bit of a hurdle.

It's a shame that most women have the drive of a wet bag of socks and just say "it can't be done" just because it is a wee bit harder for them to lose it, but once it comes off it isn't really much harder to keep it off.

women are often discouraged from playing sports or exercising during their teenage years, thus the habits of a healthy lifestyle are not ingrained in them

>>41334030
Ah fuck off mate. Nobody was discouraging girls when I went through schooling.

Women just aren't as competative in where biological aptitude plays a major role except looks.

Men figure out through play very quickly who is good at this game vs that game, and that dynamic just doesn't come into play for girls who generally spend most of their play doing nurturing roles.

Socially women have been conditioned to be useless in quite a lot of ways by the so called "womens liberation" re-orientation of life roles, but that whole "we tell women they can't be active" bit is horse shit.

Girls play with boys in a physical matter all the time, boys just tend to wipe the floor with them in competative play so they go play other non-competative things

>>41334030
>what is Title IX

>>41334068
this tbqh. And we can see the affects that women who want equality have on our society. They want to be all but useless. They don't want to cook or clean, they want to be like "the guys." Only problem is they fucking can't. They are physically and psychologically different than men. And what happens when they can't be like men? They get their feelings hurt. What happens when they get their feelings hurt? They start bitching until either A) someone helps them (which won't work) or B) keep bitching until the standards are significantly lowered so that their weakness can be accommodated, thus lowering men's standards of performance. option B) is usually what is chosen because it is easier. If neither option can be fulfilled, then women become fat useless disgusting gender queer feminists.

>>41333984
This, thread is over and we can all go home

>>41333487

Yes, its called biology. Also, our modern western society doesn`t help it either.

>>41333487
Test does help with weight loss (although it also increases appetite, not sure which one has the bigger effect). They also have lower TDEEs because of less muscle mass, and higher essential bodyfat. A woman at 20% bodyfat is going to look pretty good, a guy at 20% is chubby.

>>41333511
Kekd and checked

>>41333487

insulin.