>bulk >the more weight you gain, the less muscular you

When you bulk you actually have to lift

>>41309028

There's a point where you look like shit in your bulk. After about 18-20% bf.

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>>41308879
This is me atm op.. im cutting and look way smaller than when i was a fat bulker.. now i look way better shirtless but look dyel with clothes even normies ask if i still lift... fucking normies are stupid...

Just clean bulk and take your time. Gains are all about consistency and time

Clean bulk

>>41308879
when you start doing cardio

Cut to below 15% before you bulk even if you're dyel

Same position... Id like to cut but really not sure how much muscle I would have left. I don't want to look even more dyel

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Keep bulking and lifting hard bro eventually the muscle catches up and burns the extra calories so your bf% balances down
I have never done a cut since I started lifting. Always eating my fill
Still quite fat but I'm big boy

thats the point op... everyone who bulks looks like a fat piece of shit, myself included... but as long as i keep making progress in the gym, i couldnt give less of a fuck how "fat" i "look"... cause i know that once i cut im gonna look like a fucking god