should I wait until after I look good naked before hanging out with girls? I don't know what to do but I really like her. 90 lbs into my cut but still skinny fat
You two sound boring as fuck. Wait till you get some hobbies.
Don't be a faggot lol she wants to hang go fuck her, turn out the lights and bang her she won't say no after the clothes are already coming off. Girls don't care as much about body as you think.
>>41307002
"I know i'm boring"
Wtf my bro? And by bro i mean faggot
She may be an airhead but you're fucking below beta.
Probably friendzoned as well
>>41307031
I'm a virgin
>>41307018
you are correct. Life sucks but she's really pretty
>>41307002
>I know I'm boring
Jesus christ have more confidence if you're going to talk to girls. Instant turn off if you speak like that for a lot of women
Da fuq is that conversation
>>41307048
she's a good friend and comes onto me a lot. I pretty much accidentally friendzoned her since I haven't been with a girl in years and never made a move.
I don't need to fake an act to impress her, she knows who I am and how anti-social my life is
>>41307061
Who gives a fuck you inseure faggot.
>wahh I'm a virgin and can't man up to fuck her cause I'm insecure and fat
Stop being a bitch. You're a virgin because of this. Go get laid
>I know I'm boring
Why the fuck would you put yourself down when talking to a girl? You know girls want confident, strong men right? Everyone knows that, and your message basically reads "I'm a pathetic little bitch that hates myself". Get a fucking grip OP, talking to girls isn't hard and you somehow managed to fucking blow it.
>>41307049
>I'm a virgin
And? How is being a virgin an excuse for not losing your virginity?
>>41307088
why are you so upset? She still wants to hangout
>>41307094
so i'm just trying to give you perspective on why I'm being autistic about this
>>41307002
> I know I'm boring but I'll watch whatever you want
oh dear
don't do this
be more confident bro
>>41307002
Fucking do it anon, she really likes you, I can tell just from that interaction. She doesn't care if you're a little skinny fat.
Have you guys hung out before?
>>41307002
I honestly can't tell who is worse. She is thirsty as fuck and you sound like this nigga right here.
yeah I don't know why I thought /fit/ could give me a confidence boost. Looks like another night of Civ and jacking off, maybe next time
>>41307129
I pretty much am anon.
>>41307182
You fucked up.
>>41307182
Does "she" have a penis OP? You can be honest.
If you're not three knuckles deep in her before the next block you ain't my nigga
>>41307196
yeah no shit buddy, I've been fucking up for years. In reality I panic around people and sending that text sent a ton of relief to my stomach. I don't care I know I'm progressing. One day
>>41307182
>i guess lol
>>41307182
>>41307210
Didn't see your last post, you blew it you fucking jabroni
Oh my god you post poned you beta. She offered to hang tommorow you better do it
>>41307182
Go see a therapist bro, you had free pussy there and you messed up. At least you realize you have some problems
Don't worry we'll all make it one day
>>41307217
Lmao, you're like the inverse of me when I was in HS. I was autistic as fuck in a really aggressive way mang
OP is indeed a faggot
>>41307237
That fucking picture of drake XD
>>41307182
You're going to heavily heavily regret these choices you make anon. I'm like you and trying to put myself out there more and do things, because that's what life's about. We only get one chance at being a walking talking feeling organism on this space rock, and everyone is gonna be gone in the end. You better fucking go out with her. You are going to learn some things about yourself, some things about her, you're gonna feel some things and you're gonna be happy and be sad but you're GOD DAMN gonna text her and say fuck it let's go for that drive. If not for you do it for all the people like me who wish we took those opportunities while we had them.
>>41307237
is she literally a pumpkin on the right
>>41307002
>a girl who sends multiple messages and actually sounds interested in the stuff you're doing
>>41307002
You dumb faggot, building competent social skills are immensely more important than your physique. Never pass on an opportunity to hang with a girl.
>>41307261
Don't worry, I've had that happen too. It's all a facade
>>41307267
How's it a facade?
>>41307217
Seems like you having other things to work out before you should worry about how you look naked.
Something which helped me immensly with social anxiety was realising almost nothing is a big deal. The more you put yourself out and the less you worry about things, the less awkward it will be and it will get better.
>>41307264
where the fuck were you 30 minutes ago when I made the thread before everyone shit on me
>>41307267
>>41307261
a facade to get into your pants and suck your dick for 45 minutes once a week for three months as you find out rather quickly that you're incapable of cumming from oral, piv, anal, handjobs, or anything that doesn't involved you stroking your own fucking god damend dick
>>41307182
Oh you fucked up dude
OP if you dont see her tomorrow, just kill yourself
>>41307284
This
I got my dick sucked on Thursday night and I couldn't cum. Poor girl was at it for 20 minutes. Her neck is probably sore.
>>41307182
What an absolute fucking cuck lmao. Even I wouldn't be this much of a faggot.
Why are you relying on /fit/ to give you a confidence boost?
>Giving up because you don't get emotional support from others
You don't have to jerk off tonight man, just play with your own pussy.
>>41307281
everybody told you the exact same thing you fucking hyper autist. please don't try pursue her the last thing we need is more people like you in the gene pool, please stay a virgin forever
>>41307304
>Giving up because you don't get emotional support from others
I didn't give up because of that (although you guys are brutally honest and I didn't think I was texting all that badly), maybe I just don't really want to go out either
>>41307264
This. Getting /fit/ doesn't cure autism faggot
OP, these other anons are right. You fucked up. HOWEVER, since you seem to really struggle with your self confidence, you need to look past the surface of what they're saying and not let it get you down. They're just trying to encourage you to man up and make a move, and somehow luckily she left you an opportunity to do so tomorrow, I GUESS lol.
Don't blow it again, OP. It'll do wonders for your confidence to make a move and hang with this chick. You
>>41307335
>maybe I just don't really want to go out either
ffs you have nothing to gain staying home and nothing to lose going out.
>>41307357
>going for a drive
>nothing to lose
I could literally die
>>41307335
>maybe I just don't really want to go out eithe
You fucking offered to hang out with her
>>41307343
I know man, I know that's just how the place is. I just didn't think the texts were weird is all
maybe I'll buy some adderall tomorrow, that always boosts my confidence
>>41307105
>why are you so upset? She still wants to hangout
You're chill. I like chill.
>>41307002
>I know I'm boring...
>she still persists
It is impossible for you to fuck this up. Just go with it and let it happen. She's thirstier than you are.
>>41307390
I offered for her to watch a movie, that's not going out
>>41307182
Wait nevermind, you managed to fuck up something I thought was impossible to fuck up. Consider suicide.
i think she sounds cool, i like girls who wantt to do stuff outside of sitting around watching netflix and having sex. drive somewhere and fuck her in the car
also start hanging out with girls now and they'l want you when you get in shape. nothing like the feeling of a girl getting all silly and shit when she doesn't quite know how to handle a guy with muscle, its cute
>>41307335
You weren't texting THAT badly. You made mistakes by saying you were boring, mistakes that in other conversations could have caused her to lose interest, but she didn't.
You then chose to make an even bigger mistake by telling her you were busy. Seriously why the fuck did you do that?
/fit/ was basically ragging on you form poor form in conversation with females. Poor form that can lead you to going to "snap city", but you were still fine. Then you chose to fuck up even more.
Man this thread has been a huge motivation boost for me.
I was pretty much like this 2-3 years ago, but I've done huge work on my mental & physical gains and gained so much confidence.
>And a new date this weekend with a 8/10 who first was "not yet ready for dating" but I turned that shit around
>>41307182
>girl wants to hangout
>even suggests doing something alone like going for a drive
>does everything except directly telling you to fuck her
>you make up some bullshit to get out of it
You're gay OP
Make plans for the next time you're both free and actually go through with them.
She won't care that you're a virgin or skinnyfat since she obviously wants you anyway.
If shit goes south, none of it will really matter in the end.
And if you can't do that, kill yourself.
>>41307429
she didn't lose interest because she's been trying to get with me for a while. The dynamic is different and I'm really not as retarded as people are making me out to be
There's a difference in feeling in terms of getting a girl you've been lusting that's playing tough to get after vs getting a girl that already wants you. The former feels like much more of an accomplishment. Notice throughout the thread I said she's nice and pretty. I never said I really wanted her or anything
The only thing I'm autistic about is sex cause I'm a 20 y/o virgin. I should fuck this girl I don't care about, you're right. But
1. I don't really care about sex, I just want companionship more than anything
2. Did anyone here really enjoy it the first time or at least leading up to it?
3. That would be shallow probably
I can hang out with girls or anyone really if I'm in the mood which is rare. When I feel like a girl wants to fuck it makes me nervous. Is that really worth seeing a therapist over?
>>41307182
>i GUESS lol
bruuuuhhh she is thirsting so hard for your cock. just tell her she can work on it at your place and get your dick sucked. Pleaaaase get your dick sucked tonight bro
>>41307490
>1. I don't really care about sex, I just want companionship more than anything
Thats a classic defence mechanism that virgins tell themselves to excuse their own cowardice, unless they are literally asexual
I should know, I've been there
>Is that really worth seeing a therapist over?
Well, it would greatly help, but these things can be fixed with selfimprovement
literally OP
>>41307542
but you can argue I am improving cause I'm cutting and at least talking to a girl. There has to be guys on here that need it way more than me
>>41307490
>I'm really not as retarded as people are making me out to be
People don't need to make you out to be a retard. You seem to be doing a fine job of it yourself.
>>41307578
at least I'm self aware
>>41307002
>>41307182
Wtf this is EXACTLY like an anime
Mysterious introverted guy who for some reason has girls thirsting for him, you can't make this shit up, only happens in the animes
>>41307574
That is just another classic self defence mechanism, there will always be something more to do, more to improve. Thing is you will never be truly ready, you just have to go on and do it or you will be paralized forever.
Take the blame off of yourself for not being perfect. You will get over this and will be stronger than people that never went through it
>>41307646
Only if the girl is cute. OP?
She's into you senpai
>>41307918
yeah she's way out of my league, very pretty italian girl. Maybe 100 lbs, large green eyes. Her personality is unique to say the least
>>41307002
start with uggos and fattys. once you have your endurance and strength up + gains, then you'll be ready for the qt3.14159s
>>41307182
NIGGA WTF HAVE U DONE
u massive fag OP do u like to suck dick that much
>>41307182
>saying "I'm boring"
was it autism?
I didn't read the thread but stop being so fucking available pussy, when she asks 'what are you doing?' you tell her 'I'm busy'
Jesus
>>41307284
>>41307302
Stop masturbating and watching porn
>all these fuckos telling op he fucked because he wasn't thirsting to hangout with this girl
It's pretty obvious this girl digs OP. The only thing that doesn't make sense is why he's asking for advice
>>41307490
>I don't really care about sex, I just want companionship more than anything
How do you expect to get companionship when youre too much of a pussy to hang out with a girl
>>41307048
"i know i'm boring"
she was never thinking that until the moment you said it buddy, you can't say shit like that if you want a relationship with that person, its subconscious, psychological, you have to trick women into having sex with you
>>41309970
Girls aren't dogs, virgin. Keep blowing off a girl and she'll be sucking another dick in less than a week. This obviously isn't some random girl or OP wouldn't have felt the need to make this thread. The thing OP doesn't realize is that nobody waits forever, and each day that goes by is never coming back. He'll wake up at 28 and wonder what he did wrong to not lose his virginity yet
>>41307302
hasha buddy I feel you, that happened to me one time but it worked to my advantage. I was banging this broad and for the first 2 times I didn't finish, but we fucked for like 80 minutes no joke, I had mad cardio and I was just going forever and she was loving it and kept saying "i needed a good fucking" and the girl kept asking me if it was he fault i wasn't finishing and she went hard as fuck the next two times until I finally finished, and then she was happier than I was when I finished and we banged a few more times and then i stopped texting her. classic memes man classic memes dont stop watching porn or jerking off it'll come back to you in spades
>>41307429
>>Giving up because you don't get emotional support from others
HE WAS TEXTING AWFULLY, "im not that boring" "ill watch whatever you want" he's a huge Chuck
>>41307490
I lost my virginity at 19 and I wished I had done it sooner. The first few times aren't going to be the best, this is a meme but if you watch a lot of porn you'll be plently experienced, and thats not a fucking bags of sand comment. I didn't really enjoy the first girl I had sex with 7-10 times, but that was beacuse I didn't like all the shit I had to do to get her in bed, and she was a tier 1 retard with a nice body. The 2nd girl I had sex with I enjoyed a lot more, and she had bigger tits and ass than the first girl so it was a lot more fun, and it keeps getting better from there. Sex isn't going to be a mind blowing thing, and it won't be amazing when you start but a few times in and you figure out what you like and what you want to do, and it pays off Also i'll give you advice a good friend of mine gave me, if this girl wants to fuck you just fuck her, beacuse you don't want to look like a retard and lose your virginity to a girl you actually like a lot, as opposed to a pretty friend who who seem to have no interest in based on your texts lul
>>41307002
>"I know I'm boring"
Holy fuck OP if you're gonna put yourself down do it as a joke, saying it like that just makes you sound like a drag who apologizes for being born. You probably should be, but you don't have to sound like it.
>>41307304
This 100%
OP "I know I'm boring" sounds like you're fishing for a compliment even if you're not. No one wants to be around people who are this much work, it's exhausting and no one will care enough to MAKE you happy. Keep it to yourself next time,
>>41307242
The jew
>>41307002
Please give this poor dehydrated gal you load my dude.
>>41309856
OK who the FUCK is this guy?
Why is his non-approving face the new "face" of the NoPorn 4chan movement?
I'm a NoFap bro myself but I do it for spiritual purposes... But I've been away from 4chan for a while, I come back, and now I see his face everywhere
What is the backstory?
>>41307002
>>41307182
Bro stop thinking and being sad for half a second and take a big deep breath. You are a hard working dude, you've lost 90lbs!!! That is something to be proud of. This girl may be someone you're into, she may not be, either way you should take advantage of the fact that she is a willing friend. Socializing is good for you my dude and she even offered to take you for a ride! Good! Get out of the house, socialize, and she's putting in all the effort. Please, take a moment and breath, and treat yourself to some company and fresh air. You deserve it. I hope you see this and I hope you take my advice or find something similar to help you. All my love to you. I hope you can give yourself some love as well.
How do I become less boring? I spent most of my teen years playing WoW and other fatass activities instead of developing real hobbies. There has to be other people here that have overcome similar things
>>41310392
Yo my man, I got you. Why do you think you're boring?
>>41307382
Right, nothing to lose
>>41310447
I don't have any social hobbies and have difficulty telling stories in conversation due to my lack of experiences to pull from. My opinions are wishy washy and I don't have a good idea of what I want in a general sense. I'm moving to a new area soon so I hope to use that as a kind of fresh start but I don't want to fuck it up when I get there and keep living like I do now
>>41310505
Make a list of everything you like and everything you think you might like. Pick a few things from that list and explore them further whatever they may be.
>example: music - explore a variety of genres of music, learn an instrument, find a local adult beginner choir/band and give that a shot
>example: camping - maybe youd also like birdwatching and hiking, or kayaking, or rock climbing? Is there a rock climbing gym nearby?
The best thing about this approach is it cam be both social and self searching. Something you're very interested in, maybe go on your own. But something that you're not really set on but think it may be fun to try, you could do it as a date, or bring friends/coworkers/family, or what have you.
Now the last thing you're gonna need, and this is the hardest thing, is to let go of those judgements you have about yourself. It isn't going to help you that you think or feel lowly of yourself. Not to say that you shouldn't recognize and address areas where you'd like to improve. It's a fine line and it's a tough thing to balance - though in general just catch yourself if you start to self bully or self hate. If there's anything else I can help with or if you have any questions or if there's anything you'd like me to expand upon, just let me know.
>>41307002
No. Hang out with people regardless. It will be good for your feels and just think of the social gains
>>41310582
I do like the outdoors so I'd definitely like to try hiking and camping again. Thank you for the kind words and advice I very much appreciate it
>>41310618
Ayy I gotchu. This place can get hella toxic but I love it too much to leave so I thought I'd spread the positive vibes. If you're ever feeling down read a book called "feeling good" by David d. Burns. It's a great resource for depression and anxiety and the like. Otherwise just try shit and be unafraid.
>>41310392
You are a powerful human being with infinite potential. Look within yourself and find that strength, create the life you want to live. Be the person you dream of becoming. I believe in you, as I believe in myself.
Stop being a faggot.
>>41307002
Absolutely not
If girls love one thing more than ripped guys is former fat ripped guys
>>41310618
Read models by Mark Mason.
It's subtitle is Attract women through honesty but a huge part of it is self improvement and how to get over exactly what you are talking about. It helped me tons and it's not a long book.
Best of luck
>>41307182
You should really spend time with her anon she obviously likes you
>>41307182
desu, I feel you anon
>tfw so used to being alone that you consciously avoid obvious opportunities for emotional/physical intimacy even though you desperately crave it
Man, I never realized how poisonous this board actually is.
It's true what they say: when you spend time outside of this shit show, you get another perspective.
HURRR DURR BE ALPHA!!! HURR DURR DON'T SHOW EMOTIONS!!!
This constant "fake masculinity" is so contrived it's cringy.
>>41307002
Your first mistake is caring if you get rejected
>>41312211
Don't forget the negativity
>>41310290
>doesn't know Varg
>>41307490
Is the girl a virgin? You seem to know her well... many bfs in her past?
She seems to be really into you.
>>41312211
Nigga I'm as shitty with women as you can be but I can guarantee you that self-deprecation and excuses won't fucking get you anywhere. This has nothing to do with being alpha or not showing emotions.
>>41307002
You should wait until after you an hero
>>41307002
If it's a confidence thing, go for it, but it's gonna take a real long time before you think you're "ready" in terms of looking good naked, primarily because you'll never get 'there' - it's an unreachable goal, you'll never look how you want to and constantly want to min/max everything in your life to reach that standard, by which point you either become Pianoman and shill that lifestyle to idiots or become /fit/ gymcel, someone who doesn't interact or understand women beyond what /pol/ and /r9k/ tells them (i.e. all women are always automatically sluts aside from """pure""" virgin waifu material they find in staged photos online) or living up to the idea of the boogeyman 'Chad' who was, at most, just an average sportsman DYEL in high school that they're still salty over.
That last part should be especially important considering the replies you're getting. If you really like this girl, just go for it. Find a chance to just sit down and be with her either at hers or at yours, watch a film, play around, see if she's okay with you touching her up and just respond to her movements. Pay attention to what she does and just enjoy her body, eventually you'll fugg and then you can decide where to go with her. Alternatively if you think you're not that type of guy, just keep finding excuses to spend time with her, warm up to her, etc. etc. by the time you want to tongue her and she's eager you should be able to tell how far you want to take it with her. If you feel nervous and if you feel comfortable around her, just say it. It's far better to open yourself up and be vulnerable than to pretend to be someone else cause that's how you actually embarass yourself.
I wish you the best of luck anon. If you still feel nervous, remember that this is a new experience from which you can learn and better your own life and understanding of the world. Only good can come from taking a chance with her.
>>41312749
kek
>>41307049
>Life sucks but she is pretty.
Take control of your life and stop putting pussy on a pedestal
>girl obviously wants the dicc
>heh nah you better not im so boring xD
are you homosexual
>>41310074
You guys watch too much RSD
>>41310098
My ex asked me how I could last so long. I always just said something stupid and shrugged it off.
I knew that it was clearly because I jerked off all the time
>>41307182
She likes you, she's probably liked you for a long time. If you like her then go for it, she seems like she would bend over backwards to get you to show some goddamned interest.
You're gonna blow this hardcore if you don't do something, she's waited however long but if you keep playing these hard to get bitchmade games she's gonna just leave and then you'll be back here saying how much of a bit h she was for not reading your mind and pursuing you.
Cut the shit, either make a move or get rid of her.