It's been a while since I've been on /fit/ Do you

>>41249226
You'd make the world a better place by killing yourself.

>>41249226
>tfw you fucked an escort that looked just like that yesterday

>>41249226
>Insulin refutes thermodynamics

>>41249226
pls fuck me in the ass with a syringe full of insulin big boy

>>41249226
we think that CICO is a trivial fact. we also think that practical dieting advice is complicated by leptin, food reward, etc., but (correctly) that the overwhelming majority of overweight people are stupid faggots who are abdicating personal responsibility

t. representative of /fit/

>>41249226
Yes it has a big role, however you have come to the wrong community to get more information or teach it to.

>>41250846
>Uses basic physics to explain complex biochemical systems
Science isn't for the masses

>>41249226
M O M M Y

>>41251041
If you move, that energy is coming from somewhere. A cosmic surplus isn't created by complex enough chemistry. The complexity is the result of simple laws on a large scale.

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>>41249226

https://authoritynutrition.com/debunking-the-calorie-myth/

Explains shit better than anyone in this topic will.

tl:dr Calorie isn't a calorie, there are more factors at work, and /fit/ should stay away from science.

>>41251041
Not arguing here, just curious. How does it work when two people are on a 500 calorie deficit for 6 months, one on a balanced diet with complex carbs etc, while the other's diet is horrible for their blood sugar/insulin? Will one lose more weight than the other? If so, where are they getting the extra energy to maintain that weight when they have the same TDEE as the other to start out with?

>>41251265
the article repeatedly implies that "calories in, calories out" (which is obviously true) implies that "a calorie is a calorie" (which is obviously false). it misrepresents the advice that people actually give. nobody who's not a brainlet denies that different foods have different effects on satiety. nobody would suggest that a 2000kcal diet of ice cream is equivalent to a 2000kcal balanced diet. are you retarded

I'll be honest, I'm not smart, I honestly don't think CICO is accurate with how much I've seen about insulin, ATP etc, but it seems to work for both me and so many other people that I just don't understand.

In the very least, CICO prevents me eating over a certain amount each day, though I think looking at macros is more important

>>41250832
jelly. where can i find this escort

>>41251417
Tell you what, give some resources that prove Cal in Cal out should be worshipped.

Here is a Harved review questioning it: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/health/19brody.html

Here is a google search with 75% of the first pages calling it shit

https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&safe=off&biw=1920&bih=940&q=calories+in+calories+out&oq=calories+in+calories+out&gs_l=serp.3..0i71k1l4.0.0.0.9885.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0.lk3Nw5VpO8U&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.&ech=1&psi=OrAEWYrmLsrUmwGt0704.1493480269857.3&ei=V7MEWa3fMMuymwGW946wAw&emsg=NCSR&noj=1

>>41251455
well, from the NEJM article that formed the basis of the NYT article you linked:

"All these relationships must be mediated by changes in energy intake, energy expenditure, or both. Total energy intake is not well estimated from dietary questionnaires, nor does it reflect energy balance, which is necessarily codetermined by energy expenditure. Thus, weight change is the best population metric of energy imbalance and at least partly captures energy intake after adjustment for determinants of expenditure (e.g., age, body-mass index, and physical activity)."

it is basic physics. it is beyond debate. the interesting questions are: how can calorie intake/expenditure be sustainably reduced/increased? how can we create diets that work for people? diet composition clearly matters; a calorie is not a calorie and the hyperpalatable foods people shovel down are fucking terrible

related: http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/04/25/book-review-the-hungry-brain/

>>41251385
theoretically they would lose the same weight, however "calories out" is extremely complicated to determine and the one eating shitty will have a different "calories out" over time.

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>>41249226
this is martiza mendez for those who want to know

>>41251455
eyyyyyyyyyyy fuggin idiot btfo by own article