I did judo for the first time tonight. Was fun, more like wrestling

>>41235199
Cool story, bro. Yeah, there's a reason men and women don't usually fight each other in combat sports and why there's a stigma for men hitting women at all.

Also they are all foreigners, mostly frenchies and Spaniards. So they al were hairy and reeked of onion.

I got beet red from doing cardio for the first time in like 5 years.

>>41235199
Tell me more about Judo you 14y/o creep.

>>41235199
Reminds me of when I was in 2nd grade and a bully had me pinned down, sitting on my arms. I could only move my head and I thought trying to kiss him would gross him out and he'd get off me, so I puckered up and smooched him right on the lips and he just completely ignored it and continued sitting on me.

>>41235252
Damn son...... At least things didn't escalate

>>41235252
Something similar happened to me in 3rd grade, except I bit the fuck out of him.

>>41235235
Still they were very friendly.

Powerlifting is gay, I've never impressed a single girl with even lift numbers or picks. 3-6 plate all the same to them.

>>41235199

>do judo in Japan
>women who do judo are all merciless meat trucks who don't hesitate to grab your dougi and choke you with it at the first opportunity

Real women don't take shit in judo.

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>>41235199
>I sat her on her head for a while cause I thought it was funny.
>I was really tempted to kiss her.

whats your best judo technique?

Mines uchimata. I've got freakishly long legs for my torso so one my right foot makes contact with their inner leg they go flying.

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>>41235775
how strong do your legs have to be for this

>>41235831

Its not actually your leg lifting him. You actually start by pulling your opponent up and towards you then driving your hip into him whire raising your right leg your left leg and hip should be lifting him off the ground while your right leg makes sure he can't regain footing and falls in the right direction.

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>>41235875
yea the hip movement is subtle, that is beautifull

>>41235831
Little to no leg strength.
It is mostly the technique and the breaking of balance.
A Brazilian black belt at my club just peaches that.

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Judo is great
I did it for a couple years in my teens, should really get back into it but I'm lazy as fuck and don't have a lot of free time

>>41235831
Really not much, as a couple other anons have said, its 90% leverage and momentum. That hold true for actual throwing in general for the most part, strength really shows it's advantage it being able to bully your opponent around and limit their options to get you off balance in the first place. Of course it does come up in other places, strength is never going to be a disadvantage and often you'll find you can make up for a slightly misbalanced throw or your opponent fighting it by applying more force.

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>>41235199
My advice is try not to use your weight to your advantage while you are learning. You will develop improper form and people will assume you win only because of your weight.

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>>41236301
on topic of muscles and judo, someone I know has two kids that do judo, and their coach forbids them from lifting D: he says muscles will slow them down, I didn't want to say shit how wrong their coach was, or wasn't he?

>>41235252
WHen I was 7 an older, bigger (taller mostly but also probably heavier) did the same to me so I kissed her and she got weird and ran off. Blushed whenever I saw her after that. So...that.

>>41236398
He's kind of right. You can look at the difference in speed of the Judo players at the different weight classes, and you'll see there is a pretty noticeable difference.
Also building stronger muscles isn't much of a benefit in Judo, since it's all about fast twitch and leverage.

>>41236438
casual lifting isn't a problem though so long as you're not bulking

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>>41236398
For the most part, wrong, but like anything overtraining in one area will weaken you in others.
Getting massively swole would be a hindrance no matter how strong you are, but strength training is really the most efficient way to get stronger so no matter what sport you're doing you should have at least some lifting. Like with anything it should be tailored to your goals.
Here's some random shit I found on the internet for judo strength training.

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>>41236438
yea, but the poor kid is in aushwitz mode, I feel bad for him, he is like 6' @ 130lbs at most

>>41236467
Well in that case he should be doing something extra, even if it were just doing some interval sprints and some basic strength building.
Keep in mind that Judo does have a pretty rigorous calisthenics routine as a warm up and the sport itself is pretty intense.

>>41236467
Let him suckle from your teet then anon

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>>41236467
Then its definitely bad advice.
Look at any high level judoka. They're not the biggest guys, but they're anything but twigs

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>>41236488
>>41236513
yea, I felt really bad, but I barely know the parents, didn't want to be 'that guy' (was the most /fit/ in the room)

>>41236495
>tfw no manboobs
>tfw not gonna share my protein

>tfw I did Judo from ages 5 to 12
>coach told me to never quit it, I could become a professional
>I quit
>He won a medal in the fucking olympics like a decade later

I could be winning right now.

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>>41236672
it's not too late man, might be late to win any medals, but you can still do it for /yourself/

>>41236686

I really want to go back to martial arts some day.

I think I'd try to achieve something in muay thai though, liked that kind of fightin' style more.

the regret, though...

one of my best friends was under 18 national champ for judo at one point.

he's a really nice guy. Offered to take me through a few classes some time if i wanted

b-but muh gains and its far away

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>>41236709
don't plan on 'someday'
do it today

I apologise for that normie shit


>>41236719
just find a reason to visit some weekend and ask for 'easy to remember' moves, they can come in handy, desu

>>41236734

It's ok, I know people tend to procrastinate with that kind of stuff. Luckily I don't. I'm planning on moving later on this year and then I'll be able to practice.

Surprisingly, I live in an area so shitty there aren't any muay thai classes around.

>>41235199
yeah judo is fun as fuck. did it for a year and stopped lifting because i'd rather just judo all the time.

its a very technical sport however and you have to develop stronger ways to control and leverage your strength efficiently. i use to get my ass kicked by 60 year old men who competed at the world level and i'm about 200 pounds and squat/DL 3-4 plates.

>>41235775
>so one my right foot makes contact with their inner leg

Jesus Christ, that's not how uchimata is done.

>>41235875
THIS.

you fuck up their balance and they are easier to leverage and control. its a highly, highly technical sport.

its pretty much the strong man's chess.

>>41236398
Almost every Olympic champion in the last fifty years lifted weights. Kimura, Yamashita, Parisi, Geesnick, Riner, Douliet, Suzuki, etc. Some random coach in the US who maybe coached a kid on the junior national team should be disregarded almost entirely on all things strength and conditioning. There's hours of footage of the Japanese team working out, show him the footage of Suzuki banging out 315x10 on high bar squats.

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>>41236757
Same here, small ass country living in a small ass city, got a single GYM that is overpriced, so I lift at home.

>>41236796
Don't have any of his contacts, also don't really meet them often (last time we met was 3-4 years ago)

>>41236398
>>41236398
sorta yeah, its tiring as fuck grappling imo.

i think its easier to develop some sort of endurance and strength just grappling on its own.

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>>41235235
>I got beet red from doing cardio for the first time in like 5 years.
Everyone should include cardio in their workout. I do at least 2 miles of running a day.

>>41236438
This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. Look at the training of the only male Olympic medalist for the US in a decade, he literally lifts every day and he's only 81kg. Getting outmuscled by Europeans who actually train hard off the mat is why so many of the US's semi-promising juniors and cadets quit when they don't get to just ragdoll green belts like they can in domestic tournaments.

>>41236796
yeah weightlifting is a must for judo at the elite level but it rarely approaches powerlifting-level lifting.

it seems to be much more endurance and stamina based imo, IE you lift maximum of like 250-300 lbs but do a lot of high reps and mix it with strength-based cardio meme exercises.

that said, strength training/deadlifts/squats helps with not getting tossed around as easily. bigger/better trained guys had a hard time throwing me since i DL a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9mWr1MRE7U

https://breakingmuscle.com/learn/strength-training-for-judo-part-1-training-grip-and-cardio

judo is awesome, ive been wrestling for 10 years now and i just started into judo. im 15-2 as a white belt right now. im going to start competing up as a brown belt because competition is too easy right now.
im about to train at the kodokan when i visit japan over the summer too. feels good man

>>41235831
Not in the least. If you're doing it right they're already falling by the time your leg moves.

Imagine putting a stick in the spokes of a bicycle in motion. Similar principal.

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>>41236398
You tell me

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>>41237138
I have no idea who the fatso is

>>41236398

muscles don't slow you down unless you are a fucking genetic rarity that can pack muscle like crazy without any training.


The reason why their coach forbids them from lifting is because lifting tires people and builds up fatigue and makes them slower, it's not the actual muscles.

Also, bigger stronger muscles are better than weaker smaller muscles on the same frame, everytime.

>>41237174
big ted, french judoka 2 x gold medallist

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>>41237279
>french
man I like how there are only 2-5 'french' people in my whole country

>>41236438
>building stronger muscles isn't much of a benefit in Judo, since it's all about fast twitch
Fast twitch are the muscle fibres primarily built by lifting, idiot.

>>41237279
I wouldn't worry about explaining this shit to retards. For some reason there's 1 to a few autists that've suddenly got a hard on for judo (and krav memega, weird) but don't even know the absolute basics of judo.

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>>41237347
>because everyone knows every medal winner

>>41237363
I'm not even that into judo and I know who he is. If you don't know the gold medal winner of the heavyweight class of the previous two olympics, who are you gonna know?

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>>41237387
I don't know any gold winners, not even the ones who are from my country, if any. Why should I?

>>41237572
>I don't know any gold winners, not even the ones who are from my country, if any.
Do you have brain damage or something bud?

>>41237598
Most people have better things to do than watch sports.

>>41236398
My judo coach told me to do the big three and also hill sprints but for short distances (like 30 meters).

He also said olympic lifts won't help with judo, but I don't remember why. I think his point was the whole 1 rep as fast as possible thing was too fast compared to judo throw which would take more time but I am not sure.

>>41238128
Cleans build your explosiveness.
Big three builds your strength base, makes it easier to defend and pull people on to you.
Do what he say also read this.
https://breakingmuscle.com/learn/strength-training-for-judo-part-1-training-grip-and-cardio

>>41238074
Yeah, like shitposting on this himalayan tea brewing forum.

But you probably know what Kim Kardashian did in the last 4 weeks, fucking faggot.

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>>41238281
who?

>>41236788
Uchimata is in the ashiwaza kata set.
Let that sink in for a minute.

>>41236772
>200lbs
>deadlifts 3 plates

you consider yourself strong?

>>41238518
Ashi in Japanese means leg and/or foot.

>>41235199
How the fuck do these guys fit lifting in their schedule. competing judokas I know train 3 times a week and mon,wed,fri and have competitions on sunday. when are they supposed to lift?

>>41238074
I was more talking about the shitty wording as well as the entire context of the post.