Daily reminder of the natty limit. BEHOLD >Eugen Sandow >late

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>>41144806
Can you look like that at above 6ft though natty?

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>>41144806

>>41144786
He was a manlet though

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>>41144786
I'm literally laugh at people who tout Frank Zane as natty.

>maybe he just worked harder and ate bigger than Sandow
>lmao men no

>>41144786
>cokehead
>this is a better idea than roiding
lolroflmfao @ you're live, kid

>>41144786

the natty limit while being a manlet and probably having natty test levels well above 1,000 (the equivalent of mild roiding for most). You would have to be a genetic freak to achieve this.

>>41144786
>chestlet

>>41144984
Who the fuck said coke was better than roids you mong. Simply pointing out that 95% of the people who look better than the OP are not natty.

The best natty bodybuilder before people knew the first thing about routines or dieting.

>>41145155
>sandow a well known cokehead who died early of heart failure as a result
>this is the natty limit brah just be a cokehead
now do you understand why you're retarded

>>41145175
wtf?

anyone else having troubles loading pictures? chinkmoot is claiming they're all deleted

>>41145175
Coke has nothing to do with the point of this thread you fuck. Doesn't matter if he did coke or not. What we do know is that he 100% did not do steroids and they became common place after his era. Hence him being the natty limit.

>Jesus I hope you don't reproduce
>my tax dollars going to subsidize your shitty education & life

>>41145175
lol what are you even trying to say here?OP said he didn't do ster0nz, cocaine doesn't really matter. If anything he probably go better workouts and cuts from it mang

>>41144786

You know, I wouldn't mind looking like that, sans the Albert Einstein face.

>>41145201
You're claiming natty but he like all "natty" lifters before him trained on coke. That's not natty you retarded little shit.

>>41145153
Chest is a meme, it's a nearly useless muscle and shouldn't be any larger than the OPs

>>41145211
Coke is a performance enhancing drug like steroids it allows you to train harder and reduces body fat. It's also more dangerous, more expensive and less effective.

>>41145215
Holy shit you are retarded

COCAINE DOES NOT HELP YOU BUILD MUSCLE, INTRAVENOUS TESTOSTERONE INJECTIONS WILL.

>literally can you read?

>>41145215
it is you fucking autist
how does coke enhance muscle growth?

>>41145215

We don't need coke, we have pre-workout and rock music and girls in tight yoga pants to get us through tough workouts.

>>41145227
>coke giving similar results to Dbol and test

lol

>>41145257
This THICC

>>41145227
You just eat less on Coke as it makes you less hungry boi

>>41145215
coke doesn't have any effect on muscle growth. Hence, he is natty.

>>41145214
Agreed, I'm actually okay with this being the natty limit. I could still pull mad bitches with that body.

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>>41145301
holy shit you're retarded. coke interferes with the ability to store fat. take a natural husky lifter and feed them a steady diet of coke and they'll be unnaturally lean. this is not natty and why sandow managed to have low bf%

kys faggots

>>41145153
back then having a big chest is like having gyno today.

>>41145248

>intravenous

wew

>>41145376
Am roflcopter at this guy

>>41145410

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/how-cocaine-keeps-users-lean

then kys

>>41145399
>Not injecting straight into the veins for ultimate gains

wewlad
>iirc I meant intramuscular lol

Fucking idiots Eugene was 5'9 manlet and over 205lbs ripped.

You realize that most youtubers ppl call fake natties are 170-175lbs ripped and thats pushing it. Dont you guys get it how big this guy would look with better chest and IG filters?

Smh @ anyone thinks this is somehow a let down or "natties btfo". Most steroid users arent this big. If anything this should motivate you to see how fucking big you can get nähty instead of taking the " red pill " and believing you can only be dyel or fat fuck without roids.

>>41145419
>popsci

lol are you gonna cite an episode of Bill Nye the Science Guy next?

Modern nutrition and exercise science probably puts it SLIGHTLY higher

>>41145443
they cite the university of cambridge you autistic shit eater

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/the-skinny-on-cocaine

>>41144875
Literally nobody does. His nickname was "The Chemist" because he did all sorts of crazy home brewed steroid cycles

Eugen looked fantastic except for his chest maybe.

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>>41145447
Agreed, but probably just to Steve Reeves mode and that's pushing it

>>41145458
This guy is trying way to hard

>>41145301
are you completely retarded?

coke will increase the amount of weights you can lift, both arm and for reps in a session

more weight intensity and volume will obviously give you more results, with the proper diet


and yes, coke abuse as PWO would most definitely give more results than a low dose test enanthate cycle (which gives really fucking marginal results, after the water comes off, DESU)

>>41145439
hear hear

>>41145476
The American dream personified

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>>41144786
>He eventually married to a Blanche Brooks Sandow and had two daughters. But he was constantly in the company of other women who actually paid money to feel his flexed muscles after his stage performances. Sandow also had a close relationship to a male musician and composer he hired to accompany him during his shows. The degree of their relationship has never been determined, but they lived together in New York for a time. It is clear Blanche was jealous of his relationships.

Goal physique & lifestyle right there to be t.b.h.

Mirin' this guy more than fairies like Zyzz

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>>41145376
Are you seriously saying that cocaine makes you an "unnatural" bodybuilder?

>if srs holy autism

>>41144816
I need to know.

>>41145491
>more weight intensity and volume will obviously give you more results

Yeah, but only to a certain point w/o the use of steroids. You can only get so big genetically natural, cocaine doesn't increase that limit.

>>41145501
I'm saying back then you could eat like a land whale, lift like ahnold and look like Sandow thanks to coke.

Today, if you're going to be a non natty you'd be a retard to use coke for that purpose obviously as roids are cheaper and safer but that doesn't take away the unnatural advantage it gives.

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>>41145491
>and yes, coke abuse as PWO would most definitely give more results than a low dose test enanthate cycle

Boi

>>41144786
He didn't have the bench press, could one say the natty limit might have a bigger chest?

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>>41145498
Is he /our/ guy desu

>>41145523
The problem is without coke, if you get big, you also get fat. Coke lets you eat like shit without getting fat while retaining lean body mass. Your muscles don't grow wildly like with roids but you certaily do gain a big advantage over a natty. To claim Sandow as natty while ignoring his coke abuse is disingenuous at best.

>>41145538
Probably yeah, imo he'd look fucking 10/10 if his chest was a bit more developed. Definitely a great goal to shoot for.

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Here he is in motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wLJtjEv-Ik

>>41145566
It's just CICO m8,

>>41145577
More like CICOKE

>>41145575
>needs more sun filter

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>here we have a prime example of a cocaine abuser
>notice the bulging muscles and low bf

Cocaine
>not even once

>>41145566
Coke will help you shed fat mass, but also fucks your hormones and at a certain stage will prevent you from gaining additional lean mass. So realistically it could be said that Sandow could have been even bigger if it wasn't for his cocaine abuse.

Must suck to have no good verifiable samples of aesthetic nattys not even your victorian era cucks can save you from your needly doom

>>41145624
>and at a certain stage will prevent you from gaining additional lean mass
yeah when your heart stops working which couls be in 1-25 years depending on genetics. look up how many of those old time strongmen/bbs died of heart failure before making it past their 60's. they virtually all did.

>>41145631
>Ugly bacne apologist
Enjoy your inevitable gyno, shrunken balls, and heart attack at 50

>>41145631
Huh? Just use Eugen Sandow as a point of reference for when it's time to enter the shadow realm nigga. Point is he didn't use any actual steroids so he's natty enough for a ballpark measurement.

>>41145647
Your point?

>Coke still won't make you an unnatural bodybuilder in terms of LBM

>>41145647
No, before that it will inhibit muscle growth. Cocaine is not good for your endocrine system

>>41145153
bench press also hadn't been invented

>>41145648
Nah I'm not deluding myself into false hope.

>>41145657
he died at 58 of heart failure dude. He ate like a pig and breathed coke. That's how he was decent size and lean. Nothing natty about it.

>>41145665
By the time your muscles stop growing your heart is soon to stop pumping. Plenty of time to peacock and die.

>>41145677
How does it feel to know that 99.9% of the fitness community disagrees with your autistic perception of unnatural bodybuilding?

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Dude looks like a modern day aesthetics bro but better. Thats fucking cool

>>41145698
the fuck are you even trying to defend

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just saw this in the catalog, natty?

>>41144786
tbf he actually looks fucking good

>>41145748

5'9" on the left, 5'6" on the right

>>41144786
I've seen bigger natty pecs desu
Natty limit is determined by genetics, if you have shit genetics you won't reach that, if you have superior genetics you might get a slightly better physique.
Don't be so stupid

>>41145748
>out angled by a cokehead from the 1800's

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>>41145782

He's actually six foot

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>>41145509
Yeah but you'd look more like this

>>41145824
Anon..
You can't be that slow on the uptake.

>>41145839
>still not that bad

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>>41145748

>>41145850
Nah man I think it's a lil better

>>41145867
But the real question

>does he do cocaine
yes?
>not natty

recreational use obv doesn't fall under the same category as roids anymore because there are proper peds for that like clen and tren so meh meme away retards you still are stupid for claiming old cokehead bodybuilders as some source of natty inspiration

>>41145911
You're a fucking teenage faggot if you don't take coke, most normal people do

>>41145153
When he was lifting, big chests were considered feminine. The first chest exercise hadn't been invented until the early 1900s and that wasn't even the bench press.

>>41145991
pushups and dips probaly already existed bro

>>41146004
Nobody does pushups for mass.

>>41146016
nobody does any more because we have other better exercises

>>41145175
>Sandow died at his home in Kensington, London, on October 14, 1925, of what newspapers announced as a brain hemorrhage at age 58.[1][20] It was allegedly brought on after straining himself, without assistance, to lift his car out of a ditch after a road accident two or three years earlier.[19] However, without an autopsy, his death was certified as due to aortic aneurysm, which his biographer in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography states may have been syphilitic in origin.[19]

Lol holy fuck this thread

>>41146034
Jesus could this guy be any more of a fucking alpha?

>>41146034

>when you literally DIE from lifting

>>41146034
>Spend your life lifting and eating horses to become the most aesthetic natty lifter in history
>Still shredded at 58
>Die because you tried to lift your fucking car out of a ditch
What a man.

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>>41144875
Just lots of liver tabs, bro

>>41146163
I do admire his dedication to stay /fit/ his entire life

>>41146034
>aortic aneurism
so, weak ass heart from being a coke head dead at 58

>>41144786
holy shit, what did this dude eat?

>>41144875
Who the fuck thinks Zane was natty? Wasn't he known as "the chemist"? Does he himself lie about roids?

>>41146260
Definitely not Whey. I would imagine just lots of steak, chicken, eggs and milk.

>can you imagine the amount of ass this guy could pull back in the 1800s when literally EVERYONE was dyel

>>41144786
Has anyone read his book "Strength and how to Obtain It"? Would it be worth seeking out and giving a read?

>>41146291
>implying everyone was DYEL

There were more men working in physical jobs than today and assuming they had enough food on the table they probably ate healthier than most macro-obsessed bodybuilders do today. Plus, they never dieted down to "shredded" level so by the time they would be 30 I imagine a great many men were very muscular. Not more than today because they didn't train everything evenly, they didn't work "out", they just worked, so they wouldn't hit all the "aesthetic" muscle groups as much as possible. But visibly muscular arms, a thick neck and a wide back? Sure. And that's what women are really into.

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So, who looked better, Sandow or Charles Atlas?

>>41146350
wtf literally DYEL mode
he has the legs of a sedentary woman

>>41144816
How above? From 0" to 5" it becomes increasingly difficult and you'll have to have increasingly better genetics. From 5" to 11', no, not really. However, do remember that he isn't actually the natty limit. Not only can you expect to have larger chest, but larger quads and traps too, simply because how we train nowdays - and how they didn't back then. Not to take anything from him, literally aesthetic perfection, no homo. But knowledge of human physiology has increased, so has quality of (quality) foods, the natty limit is beyond what was achievable 100 years ago.

>>41145571
Well, we also need to realize that his overall goal was to develop his body to similar proportions to the Hellenic statues in museums. He actually took measurements of the statues and figured what those same numbers would be if put to someone his size.

>>41146246
Hey, to be very honest I'd rather die at 58 lifting and being a "cokehead" than at 70 shitting myself. Your choice. Quality or quantity?

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>>41146530
Why isn't Sandow /our/ guy?

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>>41145175

Does diet coke increase muscle gain as much as regular?

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>>41146551
I would trade 60-70 years of my potential life to live 22 years of Zyzz life

>>41146551
I'd rather die much later lifting natty and not being some suboptimal depiction supporting your retard argument

>>41146593
i don't think diet coke ever had cocaine like regular used to

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>>41146429
Well... he got better later in life.

>>41145532
yes because coke makes calories magically disappear
Go back to tumblr landwhale

>>41146592
...I may have attached that statement to the wrong post.

>>41146646
your dumb

>>41146643
Barely 13% bf men

>>41144875
>shoulders smaller than sandow
>chest slightly bigger
>tris smaller than sandow
Damn you're right, it's fucking ridiculous how some people think zane is natty

>>41146665
You're**

Sandow is peak natty
>before protons powder
>before standardized lifting equipment
>before accurate way to measure calories
>before years of research done on maximizing gains

ok

>>41146246
Well if it was syphilis related that would explain it.

>>41146714
yeah it couldn't be snorting coke for 20+ years every day

>>41146702
>implying any of these increase the natty limit significantly

>>41146730
Stfu with the cocaine already dude literally nobody cares

>>41146784
mad your false natty idol is getting btfo
lmao butthurt little baby

Cocaine > HGH

cocaine > natty

>>41146790
ok

>>41146778
PEAK

PEAK MEANS MAXIMUM POSSIBLE

SO YES, THEY DO INCREASE LIMIT SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOP PERCENTILE

jesus fuck, I'm so sick of explaining this.

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>>41145491
This is the most autistic thing I've ever read

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>>41146806
>eat big and lift heavy boyos
>THIS IS THE NEW PEAK NATTY LIMIT

Pic related

>>41146828
can't stand this cunt

>>41146828
megaroiders look like shit. like a girl with a big and bad fake boob job and plastic surgery. looks fake and gay.

>>41146608
18 of those years were very similar to the one's you've already lived. The only way to live the last 4 years of life Zyzz had is doing enough roids and clen that you're 10mg of ritalin away from a psychotic breakdown.

>>41146854
Roiders? Boi those are natty lifters. I searched for "natural bodybuilders" not frauds or cocaine abusers

>>41146828
Just look up how people had to squat back then and then tell me that you could use the same weight you do now setting up for a squat like that.

>>41144786
I guarantee he was on something. In an era where people struggled to eat do you think anyone knew about nutrition, protein intake and how to lift? was the dumbbell even invented yet?

Even with the drugs, ease of getting nutrition and information out there not many people are close to this.

>>41146863
Oh okay I'll keep lifting with their naturally obtainable physiques in mind.

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>>41146862
But aesthetics tho

>>41146643
That is pretty good for mr receding hair line.

>>41146877
Just do coke, as that butthurt faggot keeps complaining. Coke > roids, for natty aesthetics.

>>41146730
But a syphilitic lesion could have caused the same thing. Either way this dude wasn't doing himself any favours doing coke and having syphilis.

>>41146675
The pictures are taken from different distances, you retard.

>>41146870
There very first steroid, Dbol, had not yet been synthesized in a lab when he was lifting. He wasn't on anything that could make him build excess muscle

>>41146894
*in the 1800's
>being this butt btfo

>>41145175
You can cut without coke tho

>>41146918
You can cut while not cutting? Intradasting.

>>41146937
What? You an achieve what Sandow did without cocaine, just eat at a deficit until you are as lean.

>>41146947
Sandow never ate at a deficit tho. Coke is like a weak version of clenbuterol.

>>41146957
And you know this how? A line of cocaine doesn't make 3k worth of calories disappear into thin air m8

>>41147004
>Doesn't know about NEAT
>Doesn't know that we litterally breathe out most of the fat we burn

K.

>>41146957
You are the dumbest fuck I've seen on this board
Cocaine would be like a super pre work out it does NOT make you lean coke heads are lean because they don't fucking eat

>>41147023
>trying this hard to look right

nope.

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>>41145698
>using the "fitness" community to try to prove someone wrong
I don't know if you're talking about /fit or the entire community as whole, but either way they don't mean shit. Around 40% of the people on here are either fat, skinny, or weak as shit. Then add another 5-10% for the retards that only shitpost.This board is average at best for health and fitness information. If you're talking about fitness as whole then you're even worse off. It's just full of fucking memes and broscience.

>>41147034
Do you know what NEAT is?
Do you know how hyper and energetic cokeheads get and how revved up their bodies get? I'm assuming you do since you pretend to know these things.

>>41147035
I'm not even the same person. It's just that you or they are stupid and wrong.

>>41147004
> Although cocaine users reported significantly higher levels of dietary fat and carbohydrates as well as patterns of uncontrolled eating, their fat mass was significantly reduced compared with their non-drug using peers


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666313003401
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23920064

>>41147075
>Trusting the self reported caloric intake of drug abusers

wat

>>41146790
did someone just beat you in league of legends?

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>>41147075
Yeah like they wouldn't lie or anything

>>41147120
The cokeheads would be lying by telling them they had a shit diet of overeating ?

Do you know what the criterium of embarrasment is?

>>41145867
I knot that face...
Fuckin' Blue Steel from Zoolander!

>>41147125
>he thinks assfaggots are vidya
how to spot a 90's kid

>>41147155
>Do you know what the criterium of embarrasment is?

Yeah, it's every post you've made so far

>>41147212
That would mean everything I posted, while embarrassing, is true.

>>41147075
>>41147120
>>41147137
I do have to be on this fuckhead's side on this one. This winter was a fucking summer for me personally because methilphenidate increased my thermogenesis so much. Coke is much like meth, except instead of being a secretagogue it's only a reuptake inhibitor of serotonin, dopamine, and adrenalin. Serotonin and adrenalin are both massive hunger cutters as well as massive thermogenic hormones. The reason why clen works is because it's a 36 hour working "adrenalin" molecule, instead of the normal ~30 sec.
Adrenalin (and by extension clen, coke and meth) doesn't increase muscle mass in humans, though, and is just as well a good muscle protector that you can get from things like intermitent fasting. So, yeah, these drugs make the cut easier, but won't give you unnatural results, just easy results. Unless, of course, you add clen to a cycle. Then it will provide extra gains that the cycle alone wouldn't.

>>41147227
inb4 "but you can't get to 3% and still be healthy without clen/coke!". If you arrive to 3%, with or without drugs, it's not healthy.

>>41146429
>>41146669
>>41146887

Well... apparently Atlas' measurements have been put int a time capsule for Ogelthorpe University, not to be opened until... I forget the exact year, but the logic was it was supposed to be opened after the same amount of time had passed between its creation and opening as had been between the Pyramids ad the archeological expeditions to them.

Plus, on an interesting note: His 'Dynamic Tension' company is still in business after all this time. And people swear by it. Granted, people swear by a lot of things...

>>41146870
Actually, yes. The Dumbbell was invented. It was actually his preferred tool for lifting.

>>41146778
>implying they don't
>being this bad

>>41145432
gotta get those heart gains bro, then you dont have to do cardio

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brehs...

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>>41147472
m-mirin

>>41147472
>>41147494
Ditto

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>>41147472

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What about the ancients, were they 100% natty?

>>41147535
delts have that cocaine look

>We provide evidence for a perturbation in fat regulation in cocaine-dependent men. Cocaine use was associated with reductions in body weight and these were remarkably specific to fat mass. It is clear that this effect reflects a more fundamental disturbance than can be accounted for simply by increased physical activity or reduced food intake, since lean mass did not differ across groups

>>41147535
No shredz could be natty

victorian era btfo

>>41146608
top kek meme. never seen that one before but it gave me a giggle

>>41147627
This stuff is pretty cool famalam.

>>41144786
I heard his bodybuilding shows were just a cover for gays to 'mire his natty physique without getting busted by the law.

Still, 'mirin hard, pretty much my goal body.

>no homo of course

>>41148091
Heard from who, your 19th century great great great grandfather?

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>>41144786
desu eder > sandow

daily reminder that this guy did dips with over 400 lbs (180 kg) added weight. he was the strongest natty BB, probably ever. just think about these numbers

>At a bodyweight of 190 to 200 pounds Marvin performed the following
>Olympic press - 330 pounds.
>Deep squats - 50 reps with 300 pounds.
>Side laterals - reps with 120-pound dumbbells.
>One-arm-chins - eight consecutively with each arm.
>Press behind neck - 305 pounds.
>Side press, left hand - 220 pounds (with a man sitting on his hand).
>Parallel bar dip with 434 pounds (two men hanging from his feet!).
>Bench press - 515 pounds.
>Still arm pullovers - 250 pounds.
>Wide grip chins - 80 with his bodyweight and 8 reps with 200 pounds attached.
>Consecutive handstand push-ups on a horizontal ladder - 25

a fucking 120 lbs laterals

>>41145571
someone who doesn't want big chest, he is a good goal

>>41145606
why does his biceps look so fucking small?

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>>41148159
Why do you thing it's called e-statting?

>The "e" stands for eder

How do I get that "hard" look all these old dudes have?

>>41145496
>gay dream personified

>>41144786
Not natty limit. These cunts didn't know anywhere near the shit we know now about bodybuilding.

>>41144786
Sandow died at his home in Kensington, London, on October 14, 1925, of what newspapers announced as a brain hemorrhage at age 58.[1][20] It was allegedly brought on after straining himself, without assistance, to lift his car out of a ditch after a road accident two or three years earlier.

>>41149645
You're right.
They know more.

>>41149597
Sepia tone filter and high contrast

>>41145476
AYY LMAO

>>41145248
>coke won't give you more intense workouts
>coke is not a god-tier cutting tool
>INTRAVENOUS TESTOSTERONE INJECTIONS

Goddamn you're stupid

>>41148159
Thats the body of a cocaine abuser. notice the low bf, def not natty

>>41144786
>>Competed before steroids were even invented
He literally started competing 2 years after test was invented:
Harvard professor Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard first injected himself with test from animal testes in 1889. In the SAME FUCKING year, baseball had its first steroid scandal when pitche Pug Galvin used the same method to roid himself up. Still in the same year, Sandow first appeared on stage, upsetting the then reigning strongman champions, while sporting an unusually cut physique and the usual telltale signs of testosterone abuse: Cannonball delts, big upper chest and bulging traps.

You can come to your own conclusions now.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Sandow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_baseball
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles-Édouard_Brown-Séquard

>>41150065
>He literally started competing 2 years after test was invented:
Started competing the year test was invented, I mean.

>>41144786
Pretty good considering chest workouts became fad much much later
Ignore his chest and his vody is big and lean, much better than most people here would ask for while roiding

>>41150065
wasn't test almost twice as high in men in that era though?

>>41145227
It's also only WADA banned in competition.

>>41147293
>>41146870
I believe Sandow popularized free weight training. Iirc it was one of Sandow's pamphlets that inspired Alexander Zass to make his own bells.

>>41145867
Disgusting, unnatural looking, try hardmode activated.

>>41144786
Training and nutrition have improved a lot in 100 years. Sandow didn't even have a squat rack

>>41144786
that is such retarded shit. Anabolics isnt the only thing that changed. Training understanding and nutrition is much better understood and can be better optimized.

also theres a much more diverse gene pool and people with innate tendency to develop muscle are getting into the sport.

tl;dr: youre reasoning are shit and clearly you dont even lift

>>41147535
>What about the ancients, were they 100% natty?
there's no way to know. Thinking statues are accurate representation of what they looked like would be like thinking nowadays cartoons are a good representaiton of the poolicital siystem

>>41145376
Well I guess I left humanity behind when I started taking creatine

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>>41144786
b-but if I do SS+GOMAD for long enough and work real hard I can look like Zuzz you're all just lazy

>>41146034
Functional strength? Or was it snap city

>>41145532
you idiot, all coke does is reduce hunger.

if you have self discipline and eat the same, you get THE SAME RESULTS
>>41145566
theres no evidence of this, coke only interferes with your hunger

>>41148159
>Eder
>natty
test was available when he did all that and he looks very juicy

>>41150065
>big upper chest

what? he had almost no chest

>>41146210
>I admire his dedication for injecting needles in his ass his entire lifetime

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>>41147155
>criterium of embarrasment

>>41144786
What was his routine though?

>>41151040
not as crazy as you think, it was very similar to ss actually

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>>41146350
He looked much better in his early days. There is a better pic of him that I've seen in some sort of compilation from an even earlier guru's mailorder course but I can't seem to find it now. Like this but somewhat more swole as I recall. Any material I've seen of him when he was middle-aged and up he looked like someone's blue collar dad with a few beers in him showing off his strength in front of the neighbhorhood kids. Kinda awkward but charming.

>>41150660
>implying just injecting shit gives you a body like that AT FUCKING 70 YEARS OLD ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED

>>41150630

idiot sandow had 20-30lbs of lean muscle mass over zyzz as natural lmfao.

>>41147075
>reported
Key word here

>>41147155
Saying you eat a lot is not very embarassing especially if you're not fat and even more especially if you already admitted to doing cocaine, which is much much worse. Come back with an actual study

>>41151524
a lot of people live shitty, unhealthy lives and on top of that they don't even hit 70 you fucking moron

>>41150065
You realize I can edit wiki articles myself right? It is literally the worst source for accurate info ever

>>41151568
>someone who weighed ~190lbs at their peak had 20-30lbs of muscle mass over someone who weighed ~220lbs at their peak

>>41150065
Injectable testosterone that a human could actually use without just metabolizing it didn't exist till the late 30's, per the same articles you linked. Injecting bull cum in your ass wouldn't do a thing to make you bigger or stronger.

>>41150065
Holy shit you are dumb

>>41147535
>olympian blood
>natty

pick one