My friends believe you need to do cardio and ab workouts to get

Message them

Perhaps talk to them, using words

There are other methods

>>41116409

any time the topic comes up in the group chat i get flamed in tandem. How do I prevent this?

>>41116396
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>>41116454
Prove it to them. Oh wait, you can't, because you actually need some muscle for abs to show, so you do need to train core.

>>41116454
Make new smarter friends lmao

>>4111639
>Read the sticky
Doing core exercises will do the trick, but you also need to lose weight so you can show them off

>>41116396
>>41116519

Cardio is a good way to lose body fat on the right diet, and yes you need ab workouts to get nice abs, its just not as important as a proper diet.

>>41116396

you need ab workout too

can't show what's not there anon

>>41116396
>you don't need to exercise abs, you only need to eat less to show them off
Sounds like
>you don't need to exercise biceps, you only need to eat less to show them off

Abs are muscles. You need to train them to make them look good.
I have a few buddies with bf% at around 15, and they still have somewhat visible abs because they actually train them.

>>41116396
You aren't getting abs without ab work. Just like if you cut down your bodyfat you'll see your biceps, triceps, pecs, etc. They won't be even close to decent though. If you want nice abs at a low bodyfat percentage, be prepared to build them just like any other muscle.

You're objectively wrong. Look at holocaust prisoners and try to find a "6 pack". It's not simply a matter of bodyfat like your premise states, if anything it's more muscle than diet, as people with high bodyfat can still have a "6 pack". See many powerlifters/bodybuilders for examples

Tl;dr: you're more wrong than them