Why is it OK to make fun of someone for being fat. But its

because poor people dont look repulsive most of the time

>>41079283
What are you talking about it's okay to make fun of poorfags I do it all the time. They're always the ones making your a fraud if you use Whey Protein threads.

>>41079283
It not okay to openly make fun of fat people. Where the fuck do you live?

>>41079283
> Making fun of fat people

Prepare for shitstorm

>>41079283
Because you can stop being fat by by not eating, it's passive.

You can't just stop being poor

>>41079313
>It not okay to openly make fun of fat people. Where the fuck do you live?

I'm from the UK, people do it regularly there.

>>41079283
Fuck off, fatty.

>gets born into a middle class family with two parents
>"dude just stop being poor and go to college like me"

1. Losing fat isn't much of an effort (i've lost 30 kg in the past 2 years, and going for 50)
2. Getting fat doesn't have much to do with luck (unless injury or shitty parents)
3. You can be happy while poor, you can only force/pretend overall happiness when fat.
4. You can be born into wealth, and that doesn't mean you're valuable as a person.
5. Making fun of someone's finances aren't going to help you or them in any way. It just shows that you need to validate yourself.
This applies to making fun of fat people too but not as much, and they might get motivated to improve themselves.

>>41079283
Do you have any concept of economics mate? If everyone was rich only the super rich would be rich and the rich would be poor. The concept of wealth is reliant on others having less.
Imagine the guy flipping burgers was paid $100k. No one will do it for less because they have other options. Suddenly your salary doesn't go so far.

Fatties are just another kind of junky.

>>41079365
Poor people are shit. Fat people are shit. There is no difference, you fucking retard.

Both can simply work a little harder, stop being lazy and change themselves. They both equally deserve disrespect.

>>41079320
>>41079347
>>41079357
>>41079365

>being poor isn't a choice

Holy shit what a bunch of poor cucks

>>41079393
But we can't all be rich. But we can be skinny.

>>41079409
>be born in third world shit hole
>have poor parents
>live in the middle of nowhere
>only power is connected to one computer that somehow has internet
>shitpost on /fit/

>>41079393
what happened anon? Did your wife cheat on you with the pool boy? Does your mom fuck exclusively blacks now? your dick stopped working?
Why are you so bitter, you can talk about it here, you're anonymous.

Sure, imagine being born to a family where your mum spends all the dole money on ciggies and booze meanwhile your dad is in prison.

But yea, not being poor is easy when you have an IQ<90

>>41079283
Its really a lot easier to lose fat than it is to not be poor. But how much worse is it being fat when poor?

Really makes you think.

>>41079393

i disrespect poor people more because they demonstrate no ability to find ways to make money and there are so many ways to make money, even collecting fucking cans is a way to make money.

>>41079409
Yes for 99% of people, being poor is not a choice.People in general do not have as much free will as you think they do.

>>41079433
>But yea, not being poor is easy when you have an IQ<90

>using double negatives
>wrong spelling
>getting the < and > parameters incorrect.

bet you're poor as shit, with an IQ of <90.

I have a 90> IQ so I make more cash than you.

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>>41079444
IQ<90
90>IQ

C O M P L E T E O P P O S I T E

>>41079439
>implying you could make it to even middle class collecting cans.

What happens if everyone does it? Then the cans would be near worthless.
Please guys learn something about economics,your probably tradesmen on 80k thinking your rich because you can buy a new car.

>>41079439
This.

If you're poor, you're lazy. There's no two ways about it guys

There's so much shit you can do to make money it's like the shit rains from the sky. Literally walk into any business and just ask for a job. If you're some low IQ shitter and can't do that, pick up cans, mow lawns, whatever. Nobody has any excuse to be poor.

>>41079464
Being poor=/= Not having a job

>>41079340
After you'll be done with school and get out in the real world you'll see his different things are.

We had this jockey intern at our company who was being a dick to a gay dude and a fat chick. He made fun of them couple of times, laughed all to himself in complete silence and other coworkers just started asking wtf was his problem.
He ended up eating lunch by himself and was eventually released from the company before his internship ended.

I wish more kids realised how different things are when you're an adult. School is probably the most hostile environment you'll ever be in your life, and it can literally destroy you at a young age.. But if you survive it, you'll be fine.

>>41079471
Low IQ detected. How do you think you make money, dipshit?

>>41079409
I bet you made your fortune sucking dick

>>41079475
God damn you're dumb. Try reading, I know it can be hard sometimes. Having a job doesn't make you not poor. If that was the case, then illegals working shit jobs all over America wouldn't be poor.

>>41079473

I'm 27 mate.

It's different at work because its not a representation of real life either. You've got HR that's basically like thought police and making fun of others is counter-productive to the task, but yes, that jockey was being unproductive by making others unhappy therefore making them unproductive.

If there were no consequences and legal action cannot be taken within the workplace, the HR department wouldn't give a shit. It'd be same as sneezing next to you without covering the mouth, you cant fire someone for that.

Outside in the REAL REAL world, people cry out insults in public, especially on a night out and it bears no consequences.

>>41079283
>Both are conditions that are reversible from hard work.
>hard work
lmfao. Just because you work hard doesn't mean you will make a lot. It's the value of the labor being completed, not the level of effort/intensity that decides how much one acquires.
Kys brainlet.

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>>41079473
>who was being a dick to a gay dude and a fat chick.
I dont see the problem

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>>41079473
>We had this jockey intern at our company who was being a dick to a gay dude and a fat chick. He made fun of them couple of times, laughed all to himself in complete silence and other coworkers just started asking wtf was his problem.

kek, try NOT working in a normie shithole for once.

your workplace sounds like its filled with 'curvey' girls and beta males.

i'd gladley hire that intern.

>>41079421
"Luck" is skill, effort, and timing.
And the difference between your success and the failure of a poor person was and is your willingness to persevere despite having failed in the past.
The wealthiest person I ever met had a high school diploma and the willingness to continue on despite all odds. Surrender means failure and we have millions of failures that make excuses for instead of getting off their ass and working hard at it.

>>41079531
>"Luck" is skill, effort, and timing.
Luck is random variation.

>>41079539
This is what poor people think and is the top excuse that they always make.
"Woe is me I was born to a poor family." Boo hoo. It looks like you'll have to actually do some work. Stop making excuses, get dedicated. Poor people are just people that have given up.
Luck doesn't exist. Anyone can come from anywhere, whether you're born to a broken home or in the 3rd world and get wealthy just as easily as someone born to a top 1% family can squander it and become poor by being lazy.
Stop making excuses. This whole thread is full of low IQ idiots making excuses for why they aren't successful. Man up already.

>>41079564
>being successful
>shitposting on /fit/ instead of writing a book/holding courses about becoming successful, working towards being more successful

>>41079444
>You have sub 90 IQ but I have sub 90 IQ thus I can make more money then you

m8

>>41079564
Nope

>>41079471
They don't work hard enough. It doesn't matter what your job is, just work hard and make connections.

I did it. I started working at a grocery store as a bagger and I made connections. Something you autistics don't know how to do. Now 3 years later I'm making $300k a year renting out properties AND getting swole.

>>41079594
How do you go from a bagger to making 300k I just don't see the possible logical progression there.

>>41079594
and yet, you don't feel fulfilled, otherwise you wouldn't have to brag about this on an online anonymous board.
Be honest to yourself, anon.

>>41079588
Self help books are a scam. If that shit worked then why are there so many fat people walking around when all these diet books exist and so many poors crying themselves to sleep while people that aren't fucking worthless are getting paid?

>>41079564
Good thing daddy's got your back

>>41079606
You get promotions, you get connections, you get job offers and you invest. It's easy shit.

>>41079618
>It's easy shit.
>hard work
>easy shit
Something does not add up here. If it were easy shit, no one would be poor. This guy is soo full of shit.

>>41079618
Well I make like 14 dollars an hour at costco so I hope one day I can climb out of this misery and make better money, thanks for the inspiration anon.

>>41079606
There isn't any this guy never left his basement

If you are only making $12/hour with a college education then you majored in nonsense. Sorry, my first major didn't do much for me and then I focused in skills. I've mopped floors and made $4.50/ hour and I've made 6-figures. I've worked 2 and 3 jobs but never once expected anything in life. I went and worked harder and learned more. The 20 minutes it took you to cucks to write your posts could have been spent researching a new career.

>>41079531
You can't have your own definition of luck you gigantic retard

>>41079493

I've never seen anyone complaining to HR or then being involved in daily interactions in any way. And work is just one example, I've experienced same mentality in pretty much any other social environments. Dunno maybe it's a cultural thing, but it's just a common courtesy to not be an asshole where I live(west Europe, not UK), same attitude was in central/east Europe.
And also I wouldn't consider drunk assholes at bar as representation of real world.

>>41079526
Have fun with your warehouse labour job

Nobody "deserves" anything. The world is full of people trying to satisfy themselves, and smarter people are naturally in higher demand, because they can bring more satisfaction to others under the right conditions.

Just like no poor person deserves to be rich, no fat person deserves to be skinny. They brought their situation on themselves and the fact of the matter is if you're too dumb to lose weight or make money, the world doesn't need you.

>>41079464
>he thinks you can just ask a random business for a job and get one
troll thread? troll thread

>>41079283
There's always gonna be poor people under capitalism. It's how the world works. Maybe they will become rich in the future or have been rich in the past. Plus many rich people don't know what hard work is. And some people are dealt a hand that prevents them climbing the ladder for whatever reason.

Ain't nobody gotta be fat tho.

>>41079347
You paint with an awfully wide brush there and make an awful lot of assumptions. Particularly assumptions about nature vs. nurture, and fate vs. free will. I am a smart guy with two very motivated parents, yet I’ve spent most of my life battling one personal demon: innate laziness. To begin to say "Well, it’s just bad luck that I was born/raised with this" is morally dangerous, in my opinion.

>>41079283
I can't choose to be athletically gifted.
I can't choose to have more IQ points.
I can't choose to have an obsessive compulsion towards working really hard.

But I can choose to work really hard.

>>41079656
S. America is similar. Hell most of the rest of the world, UK has a bit of a cultural problem going on tbqh.

>>41079283
Making fun of fat people directly highlights the problem. Making fun of poor people achieves nothing.

>>41079300
Fpbp
but youre wrong, poor people are also usually eyesores

>>41079594

stop LARPing faggot.

>>41079588
>>41079606
>>41079616
>>41079628

Why do so many people here act like being successful is some sort of black magic and totally impossible to achieve unless you started rich or whatever? For real you guys are sounding more and more like tumblr fatties who treat fit girls as if they're some sort of evil demons. Next you'll be telling us about "rich privilege". Jesus.

>>41079283
The poor are just a bunch of jackasses who can't get their shit together and control spending impulses like normal, healthy people.

The fat are just a bunch of jackasses who can't get their shit together and control eating impulses like normal, healthy people.

>>41079757

being poor IS a problem.

by saying that someone is poor you're addressing the fact that the person is unable to enjoy the same things that you enjoy.

>>41079475
Being poor can mean working a 52 hour factory job and working retail on the side. Hard work does not mean you make good money. An education is a better bet but, in the same way not everyone has the genes to look like arnie or dl a thousand, not everyone ha the mental fortitude to work themselves to death and get an education simultaneously,

>>41079594

Imagine being so pathetic you have to make shit up like this to feel better about your life

>>41079770
1. Are you financially successful and what do you mean by that?
2. Were your parents financially successful?

>>41079800
It's all the same shit though. DYELs and fatties cry they don't have Arnie genetics or "thin genetics" and just give up. Poor people cry that they were "born into a poor family" or "didn't have opportunities" and give up.

>>41079818
Oh no, you are absolutely right. But at the same time there is only so much stress one can take before they Crack, and that varies person to person. They're are single moms that work full time and put themselves through college and make it out the other side. And they're are also people who jump out the top floor window of their office building. Everybody handles different kinds of stress differently. Most people can get themselves out of whatever rut they're in, but not everybody can get in the top spot in life, which is what most people tend to call "success".

>>41079464
>Literally walk into any business and just ask for a job
It's not the 50s anymore, grandpa

>>41079891
Apply online then, dumbfuck.

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>>41079607
This, imagine being rich and successful but the only thing that completes you is bragging about it on a gibraltan photo framing appreciation board. I'd rather live a fulfilling life and be poor tbqh.

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Why is it OK to make fun of someone for being fat.

But its NOT OK to make fun of OP for being an autistic cuck ?

>>41079444
better be bait or you're legit retarded

>>41079891
You would actually be surprised what simply showing initiative can do for you.

>>41079770
post your bank account balance bitch

>>41079770
No one says it's impossible. But it is much harder.

I don't see how it's possible to deny that.

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>>41079594
>I started working at a grocery store as a bagger and I made connections. Something you autistics don't know how to do. Now 3 years later I'm making $300k a year renting out properties AND getting swole.

>>41079444
Trips dictate that this post is bait, no one can be that retarded.

>>41079594
>I started working at a grocery store as a bagger and I made connections. Something you autistics don't know how to do. Now 3 years later I'm making $300k a year renting out properties AND getting swole.

Very believable, Janoy.

>>41079283
Fatness is directly related to certain personality traits which include impulsive, delusional, and short-sighted.

Income isn't related to those types of things.
You can be a lazy asshole who lives off his parents and have 10 times more money than a hard working family man who lives a simple but happy life.

That is why

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>>41079770
>Why do so many people here act like being successful is some sort of black magic and totally impossible to achieve unless you started rich or whatever?

Because losing fat is objectively easier than just making more money. If you're fat, you just track calories and work out for 2 years. If you're poor, you can't just 'work hard' to go from rags to riches. Nobody cares about how hard you work whatsoever

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>>41079896
>Apply online then, dumbfuck.

>if you're poor, just apply online bro!!!! just be yourself. you'll get a job with the zero skills you have!!!!

>>41079283
I make fun of both, stop being a pussy.

>>41079464
nigga you must live in a bubble

not everywhere has job opportunities like cities do.

You need to get out of your town.

My own personal experience has shown me that most people are really fucking lazy and stupid when it comes to working. And it makes it hard to sympathize with poor people.

Sometimes you simply can't help being poor, depending on where you were born. You can easily not be fat anywhere around the world.

>>41079283
You have to work more, harder, find a new job to be less poor.

You have to do nothing to be less fat - only eat less, so that means you have to do even less.

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>>41079283
fatties to gulag when

Because statistically speaking people will be poor no matter what you retarded fuck. There's no CEO positions available enough, and someone has to do the low-paying jobs for now since robots are pretty shitty still

However nobody has to be fat

Stop arguing about this shit
>being fat is a choice
>being poor is a choice(for life)
>smoking is a choice
>drinking is a choice
>alcohol is a choice
>choosing to be a loser who browses 4chan all day and never gets outside is a choice
Most of you ready to get triggered?
>not having a gf is a choice
Unattractive? Dress well, get in shape, WORK ON YOUE SHITTY PERSONALITY


All I see is people complaining acting like they can't change things that are well within their control.

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>>41082764
>>being poor is a choice(for life)

nobody is saying that. just losing weight is easier. all those other things you listed except being poor are just bad habits that can be dropped with willpower and time

>>41079283
because under a capitalist system there is inherently substantial wealth inequality (not necessarily bad if well regulated); however, there is no such system which necessitates people to be fat.

There will be people who get paid shit wages because they mop floors; regardless of "how hard they work"; however, being fat is legitimately a result of someone's laziness and poor habits.

>inb4 arguing exceptions to either rule, ie "b-but rare genetic disease means i literally cannot lose weight" or "b-but this one homeless guy is actually really lazy"

You can't necessarily go rags-to-riches just from hard work; we don't live in a shitty Horatio Alger dime novel. However, you can go fat-to-slim based solely upon hard work.

>>41082858
an addendum: there will always be poor people under our system, but it isn't true that you have to be one of them (at least if you live in a country where upward mobility is actually possible, and not in a 3rd world sweatshop shithole).

>>41082800
No being poor is definitely a choice. Either get on your grind or stay poor. There are no excuses

>>41079440
How poor is poor?

Literally just finish high school, get a job, don't have kids until you're married, don't spend your money on bullshit. That's all you need to do to not be poor.

Too many poor people spend all their money on bullshit and wonder why they're poor. Sodas and chips are fucking expensive. Fast food is fucking expensive compared to making food. Drugs, cigarettes, and alcohol are expensive. Poor people make absolute shit decisions regularly.

You've got it backwards. For 99% of people being poor is a choice.

>>41082896
why is being poor inherently a bad thing?

>>41079444
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>41082896
>No being poor is definitely a choice
i never said it wasn't. accepting you're poor is a choice. working to become 'not poor' is harder than losing weight /giving up alcohol or cigs considering it's not all about hard work.

being fat is something you can change in ~2 years and it's generally your full responsibility. being poor is something you can't always prevent when you're young and it's harder to change

>get on your grind
lmao

>>41079800
What fucking third world country do you live in where you could work 52 hours in a factory and need a job on the side? Factory work pays well and that's 12 hours of time-and-a-half pay.

>>41082858
Here's your problem: you think "hard work" only means working hard at your current job. Your guy mopping floors should also be working hard on advancing his career or starting a business himself. If he's not, then he's obviously content and deserves to remain mopping floors and getting paid a floor mopping wage.

>>41079283
>its NOT OK to make fun of someone for being poor
but it is
just look at american media
>haha only rural and suburban retards vote for drumpf
>dumb rednecks should listen to us educated college folks instead of being bigots lmao

>>41082993
the united states of america

haha just kidding we don't have factories anymore they're all in india and china

>>41079409
I'd rather be a poorfag than a wagecuck.

>>41083029
Big part of the reason they closed was because the unions forced companies to pay much for labor. It doesn't make sense to pay some guy $50/hr for doing entry level work just because he's been with the company for 20 years.

>>41079594

Landlords don't work. I'm not even a commie but I fucking despise the fact that most rich people don't actually fucking produce anything. They just organize capital/assets in such a way that they leech off people who actually have to work. Nobody can stand a poor cunt who lives off the productive members of society but stand in line to fellate "job creators."

Get a job you faggot.

>>41079656
Drunk minds speak sober thoughts, and people who are subnormal (fatties for example) always get ripped into on nights out

>>41083051

Yeah or maybe having women enter the workforce, outsourcing, automation, other technological advances, and the willingness of the owners to throw the American workforce under the bus for a greater profit margin might factor in somehow.

But just blame Mexicans and unions instead rofl.

>>41083121
How the fuck does women entering the workforce affect factory jobs, you idiot? You're fucking retarded. They had to pay so much more for labor here that it was cost effective to relocate entire factories and plants out of the country and pay people there to do the work.

Threw the American workforce under the bus? Bruh this isn't a fucking charity. If they can't make a profit here they're going somewhere else.

>muh evil corporations

Fuck off commie.

>>41083051
>>41083121
you are retards
clean your mind of this constant partisan shittery and actually think for a moment

why do companies produce abroad instead of at home? because it's cheaper.
why is it cheaper?
>currency differences
>lower labor cost
>lower tax burden
>less regulations

most of those are tightly linked with the lower standards of living in other countries - this is not something you want to emulate at home. the only way to reverse the situation is diminishing the profits that can be made from outsourcing production - that primarily means imposing import tariffs or other trade barriers.

>How does nearly doubling the amount of workers have a negative impact on wages in a system based essentially on supply and demand?

Granted, the factory folk are primarily male, so I will partially concede that point.

>Everyone who doesn't put America first is a coward or an enemy of the homeland/people except for the bourgeoisie because I love the way their cum tastes.

>Not knowing the difference between "making a greater profit exploiting impoverished foreigners" and "not making a profit."

Again, not a commie. Critical of the bullshit but I don't jive with a "solution" that nearly always results in an even more oppressive state if it's going to survive.

I'm just not a bootlicking cuck like you.

>>41083217
Lmao I'm a retard?

>saying unions raising labor costs is partisan
>don't be partisan, they leave for low labor costs and all these other partisan issues

Mate seriously not only did you agree with me, you're listing out basically word for word what the GOP has been saying is the problem with business and specifically manufacturing in America.

We'll be getting a value added tax, most likely. Less politically damaging.

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>>41079283
>Why is it OK to make fun of someone for being fat.
Because being fat is 100% your fault. It doesn't matter who you are - you don't have to be fat

>But its NOT OK to make fun of someone for being poor?
Because being born into poverty is not a choice. If your family can't pay off for your education, you're going to have a harder time than some shmuck leeching off daddy's money. On top of that, the world has zero sympathy for you, doesn't care about how hard you work, and you rely on other people to see value in you. Losing fat is just a matter of going to the gym for a bit and not stuffing your face with garbage

>>41083217

I'm not sure that this is an all-encompassing solution, but it may help. My concern is that they will just pass the added cost onto the consumer rather than relocate production back to the US under these wage/tax/safety regulations.

At least you're not on board with deregulating everything until the US becomes a complete shithole death trap to remain competitive.

>>41083274
Damn bro, do you get hella gains from crafting strawmen?

Yes, factory workers are primarily male. We were talking about factories.

What did I even say about putting America first?

Once one company moves and can produce and then sell items for cheaper than its competition, the rest will not be able to compete unless they do the same. This is really basic stuff.

And who's boot am I licking? Both parties are shit and do the same thing. The government changes its clothes, not its actions.

>think of the laborers being thrown under the bus!

Literal commie rhetoric.

>>41079564
Hard work doesn't always pay off. Nepotism always rears its head in every rich kid "success" story.

>>41083307
Make fun of both, I was born poor, and I as a fat as fattass kid, I busted my ass and I'm in great shape now and make about 150k a year, my wife makes another 100k, growing up I was so poor we went through periods without power in out house, I bought my parents both a car in the past couple years, fuck people saying you can't make it cause my genetics or my senpai was poor so I can't get ahead. There are 2 houses left on the street in Detroit I grew up on, I was literally homeless for a minute and now I have 4 cars just cause and a sailboat and live next to the water. Poor people are poor cause they don't want it enough

>>41079283
Because being poor isn't always your fault. Being fat is.

>>41079618
No, faggot. Greentext how you went from bagging at a grocery store to a corporate level position, which is the only 300k position at a grocery store you fucking liar.

>>41083333

Can't argue with quads.

Assumed you were some sort of bargain Conservative due to the bootstraps rhetoric. Guess the muh free market and muh nationalism don't walways go hand-in-hand.

Still sincerely believe US workers are getting systemically fucked.

You're licking the boots of the factory ownership by rationalizing shit behavior, not those of a political party.

Again, not actually a commie, but this shit isn't exactly working out. I just have the sand to reject the idea.

there are many circumstances that can put people in the situation they are in. if you don't know why, I think its unfair to make fun. it can be because of mental health

>>41079698
But this is actually the case you fucking retard

>>41079594
>having a grocery store in his town that can afford to hire 'baggers'

You don't know what being poor trully is like.

>>41079283
Because escaping poverty is a lot more difficult than just not eating too much you fat fuck

>>41083419
>You're licking the boots of the factory ownership by rationalizing shit behavior, not those of a political party

How is understanding what they're doing bootlicking? That's how it is, and how it's been going.

Workers everywhere get fucked. They always will. What we need to be doing is retraining and restructuring our working class to fit the demands of a technological society. We will never be a powerhouse manufacturer again without becoming a third world shithole. Deregulation and union busting and lower taxes and tariffs would at best slow down the rate at which manufacturing jobs are leaving. We have to adapt our working class to the demands of today, not force companies to hire American, that will never work.

>>41083285
im not that guy

>>41083317
>My concern is that they will just pass the added cost onto the consumer rather than relocate production back to the US
if the added cost from tariffs is high enough, this price hike will make these imported products non-competitive, and US-made products will simply price them out of the market.

you'll probably have to deal with other countries (primarily china) enacting their own tariffs agains american goods in retaliation, but considering the US-China trade balance is massively one sided, china has a lot more to lose in this than america.

>>41083550
You forgot the saving grace - jobs. The cost will be passed to consumers, but if it works and US goods price out other goods then manufacturing will be competitive in the US meaning more jobs. Some goods will be more expensive, but people will have the money to pay for them because they have better jobs.

>>41083498

Mistook your statement of how it is as a justification for their bullshit. I think I presumed too much. Too much of the same old retardation gets thrown at me.

You're touching on some points I do like. Restructuring the workforce to meet modernized needs. Not turning the US into a cesspool to compete with toxic labor practices. Skepticism with the standard hypothetical methods of solving this problem.

It just got interesting, but I've got to go (to work).

Nice duel fampai.

>>41083650
Understandable considering everything is so partisan these days. I did the same.

Take care famalam

There's a step by step guide every one can follow to lose weight that always works. And it's free. Stop eating so fucking much, and go for a walk now and then.

There's no free step by step guide to not being poor. It's more than just working hard.

If there's a step by step guide to getting rich that doesn't require money and always works then I want to see it

>>41083755
Not being poor doesn't mean being rich.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/editorials/2012-01-27/story/three-rules-staying-out-poverty

Literally three steps.

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/

>Our research shows that of American adults who followed these three simple rules, only about 2percent are in poverty and nearly 75percent have joined the middle class (defined as earning around $55,000 or more per year). There are surely influences other than these principles at play, but following them guides a young adult away from poverty and toward the middle class.

>>41083755
>If there's a step by step guide to getting rich that doesn't require money and always works then I want to see it

>stay in school
>graduate with high GPA
>either get some credits at a community college or go to full university right away
>pick a major that is useful and in demand (engineering, computer science, etc)
>do some internships on the side
>graduate with decent grades

this gets you into a comfy upper middle class job by the time you're 22 or 23, and it only keeps going upwards from there.

it 'always works' the same way a diet 'always works' - if you have the dedication to put in the necessary effort, you will get results.

Alright, the TL;DR is I've got personal experience in someone choosing "not poor" over "poor." Because the choice is yours, if you actually value economic success enough.

My father was born to a fifteen year old girl and an eighteen year old "man" who expressed his love through government enforced child support. That girl had to drop out of high school to take a job as a nursing home attendee just to get by without the christian family that disowned her. It may have been enough, had it not been for the three other children she'd come to have with the three other men she'd come to accept child support from. If I didn't know any better, I'd say I've got black in my blood.

Anyways, poor, downright destitute, but still on enough to get by, he focused on fitness to get through life. Went to the gym every day by fourteen, made nationals in wrestling by sixteen. But he never had anyone or anything pushing him to focus on his education. He was on the path to choosing the "born a poorfag, always a poorfag" life. He signed up for the marines with delusions of an honorable profession surrounded by equally dedicated and patriotic men. He, of course, found retards, high school dropouts, and meatheads. He was none too happy with his life.

1/2

>>41083964
2/2

Three years in, he met a woman in the navy. Three years after that, he had two sons. Now he had a family, and he realized he doesn't want said family to go through what he did. He wants to give them a better chance at life. So, he leaves the marines, takes out a few loans, utilizes military tuition assistance, and goes to his hometown's local college. Meanwhile, his wife makes a military paycheck to send their children to daycare. He made a 4.0 over the course of four years and earned a degree in electrical engineering. I've seen his transcripts, so I can say this with certainty. Recall, this was the man who never took school seriously once in his life. But now he had a reason to, so he CHOSE THE VIABLE OPTION TO NOT BE POOR. He's held a job at Boeing making six figures since.

I also have a brother who declined free college from this same man. He works construction to pay for his room in some college town, and the rest goes to his local Jack in the Box, his internet provider, and Valve. The only reason he isn't three hundred pounds yet is because of the manual labor and the food stamps only being valid on unprepared foods. He has no gf, no real life friends, and no desire to stop; he doesn't think there's anything worth doing in the real world, and spending every waking moment possible on a video game is the only way to live. Needless to say, our father had higher hopes.

There are people who are poor for a good reason, sure. Plenty of "starving artists" out there who find greater fulfillment in their lives than plenty of 9 to 5 workers. But the choice is still yours to make.

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>>41079283
It's not okay to make fun of someone for being fat.
You regularly see people walk up to fat people and say "AHAHA YOU'RE FAT!!!!!!!!!!!" and everyone around applauds and thinks the guy saying that is cool and likeable?

Why is it OK to make fun of someone for being fat.

But its NOT OK to make fun of someone for being poor?

Both are conditions that are reversible from hard work.

Historically people have been poor because people that were rich took all their shit.

No one is forcing fatty to gorge themselves but frequently poor people are exploited for their labor.

If you make fun of a fatty, you are rightfully pushing them to correct their lives and have some basic responsibility.

If you make fun of a poor fag, you're bullying people for something they have no control over.

For instance rich kids with no real skills can have money, why do they get let off the hook?

>>41082954
Having less money than me makes you worse than me.

Addendum: Having more money than me also makes you worse than me and probably an asshole as well.

>>41084095
Why the fuck do you need skills if you're already making money? Money is the endgame, dude. Nobody cares about your skills and experience when you're already making 6+ figures.

>>41083877
>a step by step guide to getting rich that doesn't require money
>Go to college

Wow I was blind but now I see all I need to do is go to these free schools that are everywhere.

>>41079610
Because people seek solutions outside of themselves. No matter what tools I give you, if you don't have the drive to use them, it will go no where. You are the source for everything good and bad happening to you.

>>41084357
Indeed poors ARE just lazier than the rest of us.

>>41084301
>wut r loans?

>this shit isn't caused by government

>>41084382
Excellent advice, Moshe. Everyone should just apply for school loans. What could go wrong?

>>41084382
>dude just take out loans for everything. you'll be fine

>>41084521
>>41084475
If you don't understand the value of investment and leverage you're fucked forever. Have fun being permapoor faggots.

>>41082993
Does Arkansas count as third world? I was doing exactly that making $9.15 an hour. I took home $1,450 after tax and insurance. That was gone after rent, food, car payment and insurance, and medical bills from a recent surgery. The second job was to save money for nursing school that I eventually graduated. I'm now making good money as a travel nurse and only work 6 months out of the year, but I now first hand how you can stay poor forever given the right mix of bad situations.

>>41082764
>not having a gf is a choice

Not the guy's choice though, that's the problem.

>>41082947
if you think soda, fast food is expensive you're poor same applies with other things you mentioned

If you sat down on the floor and stayed there for a week, you'd've lost weight.

Being fat is not reversible from hard work. Being fat is reversible by doing literally nothing.

That's why it's disgusting.

>>41085405
>That was gone after rent, food, car payment and insurance, and medical bills from a recent surgery.

Wow how poor. You could afford rent, food, car PAYMENTS, insurance, and a surgery. Let me know when you're stuck deciding which of those you're willing to live without. That's poor.

You made a choice to fund your nursing school instead of taking out loans. Good on you, but you didn't have to do that. Your taxes are subsidizing loans, you had the opportunity to take advantage of that.

>>41086059
>>41084382
>>41084521

What's the deal with this retard encouraging everyone to take out loans? Who could be behind these posts?

>>41079283
>Both are conditions that are reversible from hard work.
Fuck you I work for 4 euros an hour and I have a job better than most in my country

>>41086068
Just someone who understands leverage.

>>41086083
Listen to this Anon guys. If you understand leverage you'll be able to pay back any loan easily AND make a profit. Just take out loans and don't worry. The nose knows.

>>41086137
Yeah. If I take out $150k to pay for law school and end up making $100k/yr I can pay that off and be in a better position than I was.

You're fucking retarded if you don't understand that. It only fucks you if you get a degree that's not marketable.