/fat/ - Fatty General

>>41007402
>only calorie intake matters, ignore fasting autists
QFT

>only calorie intake matters

A guy in Australia recently did a self-study documentary about sugar. He kept his calories consistent but took most of his calories from sugar. He gained 8 kgs

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>>41007506
>self-study

>>41007402
This is the faggiest op in the world

DAILY reminder to use body fat calculator and then TDEE calculator because without accurate bodyfat % in your tdee calculator your calories will be way wrong!

Most fat people are around 40%

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>no fat wojak
>telling the autists they'll still be losers when fit

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>family brought pizza home again
REEEEEEEEEEE IT'S LIKE THEY'RE MOCKING ME AT THIS POINT

>>41007402
calories in calories out is the bare minimum, everything else just works off of that.

Fasting is fine, ignore the people that are doing week long water fasts though.

>>41007569
how to do this? what tdee calculator?

>>41007620
water fasting is literally proving CICO is right because they're losing weight

I do 16-8 IF because Dr Fung is a big meme right now and it at least gives me a structure to aim for

and I like bigger meals in general.

>>41007741
OP has the links

>>41007750
>water fasting is literally proving CICO is right because they're losing weight
Not really since it is literally water weight, i woudl just avoid drinking for a day because i wanted to weight less

>>41007750
>eating nothing for a week will make you lose weight

no shit, but so will a 500 to 1000 deficit, keto, IF, or other much more sensible options.

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>>41007402
>I want to lose fat
>we all struggle fatsos!
>ignore those who fasted and succseeded, they're autists

>30kg in 3months here keto one meal a day
>smelled like amonia for 3 months
>skin is a little issue
>4 years later 2kg returned back
>no photos

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>>41007620
I've gotten a lot of flak here for daring to disagree when some brain-melt recommended people to skip breakfast.
I find this whole fasting business incredibly retarded. How can you expect your body to adapt properly to nutrients, if you are starving yourself for half of the day and then ingest massive amounts of food. Doesn't work that way.
My recommendation will always be to have a rich breakfast, a balanced lunch and a light, but protein packed dinner.
That worked for me and for countless others.

Count your calories, avoid useless carbs (especially in the evenings) and get yourself a sensible routine. That is the key to /fit/ness. Not some autistic self flagellation diet.

Peace out faggits

>>41007763
I think he means that by fasting they are losing weight by removing a day of calories. Unless the fungfags are making this into something magical and counting the water drop

>>41007402
Does pooing count as a calorie outtake

>>41007867
Only if you are Indian and your designated shitting street is a decent walking distance

>>41007792
Losing weight 2 months now by eating a large meal around 14:00 worth 1400-1500 calories

And then if im hungry later on in the evening which is rare if i ate something good i eat a cucumber or apple

I dont even lift lul

>>41007792
unironically this

>>41007792
>rich breakfast
>Waste a ton of your calories in some boring breakfast
>Main food will be half the size because of that
No thanks

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I use these fizzy vit c drinks to carry me over between meals. Barely any cals and wakes me up. Can it hurt me to go over the daily recommendation? One tablet is 1200% the recommended dose, and I'm having several a day. Will I just piss out the excess vit c or will it hurt me?

>>41007920
Nah vitamin tablets are pretty good especially when they boost metabolism since they dont have any calories.

Using green tea ones

>>41007881
CICO is what matters for weight lost. Body is a car burning fuel getting from a to b every day.

>IF - prefer to run off the remaining fuel from previous day and do a 1-3 big refuels in the evening
>Small meals - like to do quick refuels during the day
>Front loading - some like to do a big refuels in the morning and smaller refuels by the evening
>Day fasts - like to run down the tank and drive on fumes for a day
>Keto - prefer diesel
>Vegans - prefer biodiesel

All that matters is you how much fuel it took to get to from A to B.

Hey I've got a great idea, why doesn't everybody just do what works for them? Depending on whether you prefer to eat many smaller meals or 1-2 large meals, we could all lose weight with different methods and all be happy at the end

HOW ABOUT THAT?

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>>41007911
Your breakfast is only boring, because you choose so, you realise that, right?

If you get a proper sleeping rhythm and stop overeating in the evenings, you will eat your breakfast because you'll be hungry af.

>>41007881
As long as you keep it light in the evenings that's cool with me. I just don't see why you would deprive yourself of the energy you get from a good breakfast.

>>41007947
>You need energy from breakfast to work
>You need coffee to wake up
Sorry dont follow on popular shit that dont affect me

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Two more days and I'll be at 3 weeks /fat/, cutting is no fun. No energy, uni work, gym, and cardio is suffering because of lack of energy. Going to get adderall from my dealer soon though so that should help with the cravings & school work

>9 more weeks and I can be released from the low calorie hell

>>41007947
I feel more energetic not eating breakfast, have done my whole life, fuck off with this one size fits all mindset

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>>41007960
>done after only 3 months at 1700 calories/day

perhaps it's best just to tell people the information they need

what they do with it beyond that is up to them
if you want to eat all your calories in one go, or if you want to space it out over the day, it's up to you
there isn't a best way to eat, so figure out your own plan

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>>41007960
Nice progress mate, I'm on the same goal as you really (i set it at like 2100 per day because I like the psychological edge I get when I check in 300 under my goal)

>Finally started on path to being fit
Feels real good

>>41007961
I don't give a flying fuck how you feel. It's your blood sugar that matter.

Take my advice or leave it, but don't try to meme me, my bro.

>>41007957
If by popular you mean the entirety of ever and everywhere of people having breakfast, then sure, let's call it that.

>>41008011
ah so you're trolling, okay

>>41007942
the problem is finding something that works for them. People didn't get fat because they figured their bodies out, they got fat because they fucked up.

>>41008011
Breakfast wasn't a thing for centuries in Europe.

>>41008035
Neither was irrigation

>>41008039
Neither was obesity

>>41008039
And that has to do with your statements about breakfast?

>>41007920
Nothing wrong with consuming tons of vitamin c, it's been attributed to people who live really long because they consumed lots of vitamin c.

>>41008061
implying I read this thread and didn't see an opportunity to shitpost

>>41008017
>I have run out of arguments to justify my angry opinions
Sure, I'm le ebic master trole

>>41008035
Source?

>>41008024

Everyone yelling at each other about what is right or wrong forces people to do their own research on what to do, while also presenting a bunch of options to look into. So while chaotic I don't mind the way it's working right now.

>>41008011
You get used to not eating breakfast pretty fast. Honestly you could still have breakfast on IF, just have your feeding window start when you wake up and stop eating 8 hours later.
I like IF for the mental block it gives you to eating whenever you want. "I shouldn't eat right now" vs "I am not allowed to eat right now" really helps me because I am a weak-willed retard

>tfw a solid 1lb a week

>tfw losing weight but no gains

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>>41008081

>>41007985
I just want abs desu, I may have to cut a bit longer. I'll probably go into a bigger deficit during the last month.

>>41008089
Stats?

>>41008084
>You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies

I can't manage to start eating under my calories again. I was doing so well, and then I fucking lost it.

>>41007920
Too much Vit-C can give the runs bruv

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>>41007996
Yeah, it's a real motivator to have a 700-900 deficit one day just so you know you have a cushion of you need it, if not then it's just extra weight lost desu

I've been weight lifting on and off since I was 16 years old, and 23 now so that's SEVEN years and I've NEVER seen my abs.

>this is the year
>this time it will be different

>>41008098
Who /not making it here/

>tfw binge eating
>tfw at least 3000 calories today

Starting keto today, wish me luck lads.

>>41008112
Me anon, but we can make it together

>>41008092
>23 years old
>5'6 lmao I know desu
>172.8lbs currently
>builtfat
>seven years on & off training and I've never made it to abs

I'll go full fucking auschwitz mode this time, I will have a six pack

>>41008116
This shit right here is why the /fat/ general is great

>maybe not today
>maybe not tomorrow or even this year
>but we will make it lads

>tfw keep trying to make it a habit to be healthy
>crash all the time
>NO MORE

>>41008073
I don't need to justify anything because I'm losing weight and feel better than ever, and that's all I care a

I've started working out but I just can't into fixing my diet cause I'm a lazy fatass

Pls help ;_;

>>41008146
Get chinese takeaway meal container things, put daily meals inside of that and just somehow make yourself stick to its pattern
So on monday you'll have 2 containers, and that's it. Obviously the food in them is whatever your diet is with regards to TDEE and shit but it'll work.

>>41008146
Gotta get used to the feeling of 'hunger' if you want to make it.

Even now my stomach growls at it's missing a full meal of calories.

>>41008178
How do you combat this? I crashed hard last night when my stomach growled so I ordered shitloads of takeaway

>>41008191
You can eat literally as many vegetables as you want.

>>41008191
Try the EC stack to curb cravings and hunger. Cutting is 10% workout and diet, and 90% mental.

>>41008191
drink water or eat vegetables, fill your gaping maw with so much water that you couldn't even imagine eating that MSG filled takeout container

>>41008203
I tried doing that and I drank like 3 litres in an hour and felt really sick, not sure if it was the water tho

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>>41008150
>Get chinese takeaway meal container things
You know, non-fatties use tupperware and stuff

>>41008210
human kidneys can process 15L of water a day

>>41008191
smoking

>>41008216
Ergo drink 15L and cry yourself to sleep like the rest of us

>>41008216
wouldn't drinking that much fuck over my kidneys though?

>>41008216
>can
A car can drive the autobahn on first gear. Doesn't mean it's a good thing to do.

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I diagnosed with diabetes, and ever since I've started my new diet I've had no appetite. Can dumping all sugar and carbs for 2 weeks do that too you? It'll be a few days before my check up to get medication and I just want to make sure I'm not doing anything dumb.

For the record I'm 210 pounds and I'm struggling to eat 1000 calories a day. I used to eat around 2500.

Been having cravings for pizza for the past 2 days, should I just go for pizza?
Also been trying to convince myself it's okay since I'm already below 20%bf and did over 3 hours cardio yesterday.

>>41008247
>Can dumping all sugar and carbs for 2 weeks do that too you?
Yes. This is why people say low carb is king.

>>41008253
make your own. that way you can control the content and macros. Pizza places are generous with oils and cuts down on the good stuff because it saves them money.

>>41008253
When I have super bad cravings I just try to satisfy them with as little of what I want as possible, maybe try that?

>>41008282
you can't really buy a mouthful of pizza only
and fatties aren't known for their self control

>>41008292
You can buy a slice instead of a whole pizza

>>41008298
in your country maybe, I've never seen that before

>>41008292
Maybe go for the smallest pizza you can?
Or do you have any roommates you could offload excess pizza to?

>>41008302
i've lived all over the US and everywhere had at least one by the slice pizzeria

>>41008292
Order a large pepperoni with one slice of whatever you want on it, then when he gets there take your one slice out and tell him the rest is his. I deliver pizza and have had this happen.

>>41008308
good news for americans

>>41008302
I had never seen true 'family size' pizza before visiting America.

>>41008330
I've seen photos of pizza the size of truck wheels
usually the person is drinking ranch(?) sauce

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>>41008348

>>41008317
did he call back 10 mins later and order an extra large of what was on the one slice?

>>41008370
overkill

I'm on a steep deficit like I've been told not to do but i'm not seeing any downsides to it
it's been 8 months, I've seen amazing progress and I feel I could carry on forever

why exactly is it a bad idea to cut hard?

>>41008370
>>41008377
I would have stopped after the biscuits.
There is a German dessert called Dog's Snout very similar to that. Minus tho caramel, that'd be.

>>41008398
how hard are you talking?

you can go -1000 just fine, more if you are fat as fuck.

>>41008398
>I'm on a steep deficit

Kek, I read this as sleep deficit and thought you were making a joke. I almost posted a response about losing brain mass and needing to consume thoughts before I noticed my mistake.

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Hey, fat do you have any pictures of fat people comparisons to when they make it? doesn't have to be body builder shit I would just like to see some people who overcame the homunculus.

This is me, and I've really been really trying to lose weight because of the overwhelming curiosity of what i might look like when it's just me without the fat.

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>>41008457
Holy shit, Nick Frost, I loved you in Hot Fuzz!

>>41008197
>>41008201
>>41008203
Thanks very much anons

>>41008213
Yes but only faggots own tupperware

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>>41008492
>comparing me to the king

Ay thanks, man, I really appreciate that.

Usually, people just assume I have down syndrome.

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>>41008457
>>40998882

this thread was up the last couple days

pic related fat inspo

>>41008495
I use empty yogurt containers

>>41008527
It was more the idea I was putting across

after many failed attempts to lose most of my fat, I'm trying out keto.

>implying I know what I'm doing

no, but I'm reasonably sure my carb intake is very fucking low, maybe protein is too high but whatever.

had a little crisis on day two or three when I think I ate too much at once and my blood pressure dropped too much, but other than that it's going okay

any ketofags in here?

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>>41008516
>100 pounds of fat

I had no Idea that a person could look that different. and in less than 2 years, huh?

Impressive.

>>41008565
Isn't keto a dangerous meme anon

>>41008579
maybe, but I decided to try it anyway

Guys I started doing cardio in gym over a month ago, rowing and biking. Both have improved a lot, I can row for 2x10min and bike for 25 min with good effort.

Went to a forest trail today that is 2.5km and tried to jog, my breath gave out withing 2min and heart rate went too high right after and then about after few more min muscles started to give out.
Why was my breath and heart first thing to fail? Those to factors are not an issue while I row and bike anymore.

>>41008653
Need to up the resistance or effort you put in probably.

>>41008516
Holy shit what did this guy do?
>4 kg/ month
amazing

>>41008653
Have you been walking/jogging/running in the gym? It could also be that given different conditions (uneven ground, humidity, etc.) your body couldn't hadnle it.

I'd seriously consider talking to your doctor though, that sounds more severe than simple fatigue.

>>41008516
Jesus Christ it's like he is going back through time being a 40+ fat faggot to a 20 something fuckboi

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>tfw only food in my apartment is apples, chicken soup, and cans of tuna

Only ate 500 calories today but my body knows it won't be getting any more meaningful sustenance until I go shopping again, devilish

>>41008699
nice

>>41008693
Have you been walking/jogging/running in the gym?
No only row and bike.
Do I just call in and say I want my heart checked because I started exercising?

>>41008653
Because your legs aren't use to the inclines on a forest trail?

Try a treadmill in the gym and set the program to a hiking. It will increase and decreases the incline to try simulate a hiking. Not the same thing but you might perform better next time.

Alternatively go out in the forest trail more offer

>>41008738
>*more often

>>41008120
anon im at
170 lbs
5'5''
28 years
was fit @18 but deskjob have lost ~30lbs already since last sept, goal is 140lbs ish dont need to see abs they are overrated, only want to be fit again because living in taiwan and fit is a thing here...

>>41008653
It's easy to adapt to specific forms of cardio and completely fail at new ones.
Their is form even in cardio and your body needs time to pick up on all the little tricks it needs to reduce the effort needed.

>>41008653
had similar issue in sept last year, i just kept at it though because stubborn. now i can do a 1km jog but i get rekt from it so it takes its time.

>>41008718
I'm in Aus so what you should do might be different. I'd go into my GP and tell them what happened and if they thought it was serious ask for a referral. Cheaper and more straightforward then.

>>41008081
Nigga unless your like under 165 pounds, then you should be losing least 2-4 pounds a month. Are just eating exactly 2,000 calories? If so, that's what is taking you so long. Eat only about 800-1,400 calories if you want to lose weight, at a regular speed. Almost no one who actually goes on a big weight loss journey and means it, eats at the recommended 2,000 calorie diet.

>>41008869
*2-4 pounds a week

Sorry I wrote it too fast

>>41008884
1-2 pounds consistently is perfectly fine for anyone under like 280 pounds.

>>41008869
agreed, i eat 1000-1400 daily (that is counting vegitables raw and steamed, coffee+milk+protein powder etc) also cut out sugar. its not easy but nether is anything worth while. i started working out with body weight because dont want to be skinny fat or skinny. currently doint 50X3 squats, 20X3 pushups and 10X3 pullups every other day and i go do kickboxing 2X a week because reasons... needless to say im not hungry because im in so much pain from recovery

>>41008884
only if u are at 280+ lbs....at 165 its hard to justify 2-4 lbs a week at 1500 cal since its close to bmr

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Post your meals :3

>>41008946
what the fuck is that?

>>41008946
:(

>>41008953
looks like chicken spiedie and pita bread.
would eat/10

>>41008953
looks like an assload of chicken and either tortillas or pita bread. Looks like 900 calories if I had to guess

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>>41008953
>He cant even recognize meat

>>41008953
Chicken skewers in dijon/lemon/oregano marinade and 2 pita bread
>>41008980
340 from 2 pita bread
700gr chicken breast is 1155

So around 1500

>>41008946
would replace pita with salad dressed with vinegar/10

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weighed 220 pounds in july (5ft 8in) Age 23

currently weighing 172 (Didn't actually attempt to lose until January)

Spinach, fruit, and cutting out process foods does wonders. Old clothes I haven't worn for years have started to fit me again, I get better sleep, I have tons more energy. I'm finally making boys.

Why are there people that like being fat again? This feels amazing.

>>41008994
700 gr != 1155 cal
more like 2800...

>>41008994
>700gr chicken breast
There is no reason for this

fucking seriously

why not just have 200 gr chicken and fill the rest of the plate with veggies?

>>41008982
>>41008980
>>41008994
Ah okay. I literally thought it was bread covered in ranch on top of a pizza.

>>41009015
Who would have thought 100gr chicken breast has 400 calories instead of 165 calories :o

>>41009024
Because veggies are disgusting?

>>41009024

Pretty sure this is the guy that hates on vegetables every day calling anyone that eats them cucks

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>>41009015

>Decide to try the smallest set of clothes I've ever worn
>Just to get some anger to fuel my motivation you know
>Small size (european measure) basic shirt and size 50 jeans
>They fucking fit me albeit the shirt being a little tight on my forearms
>I currently weight 78 kg
>I bought said clothes when I was 68-80 kg
What in everloving fuck is going on

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>>41009015
>Stop trolling MFP, the retards think the meme entries are real

>>41009043
>I was 68-80 kg
Meant 68-70

>>41009033
>Because veggies are disgusting?
you're doing it wrong

>>41009043
What's EU size 50 in the waist?

I'm eufag also but people still use waist and leg in inches for trousers size

>>41008320
Their slices are nearly the size of a small pizza.

>>41009062
Should be 91cm. Don't get me wrong I'm still massive and barely halfway through my goal but I don't know what to make of this. Not that I mind.

Who here has unlocked their kikery levels from cutting?

>Haven't had a cheat meal in ages
>Want pizza
>See dominos prices
>See dominos calories
>Oh vey goy!!
>Buy oven pizza with less calories and fat from supermarket for a few shekels
>Get same craving satisfaction as dominos
>Diet still on track

>>41009043
>What in everloving fuck is going on

Lower BF%? There's about a 15% difference in density between fat tissue and muscle. So it's not strange to have the same size waist at a higher weight but with less fat. The waist is the area with the highest concentration of fat for most men. Though the shirt not being tight around your chest is weird; not much gains in lats, chest and back? Or the shirt has a loose design with narrow sleeves.

>Google coca cola light calories
>0
The fuck?
The taste isnt that much different

>>41009095
Found a size chart. Says that's 34" waist. Bit weird you're in a size small shirt though. I'd assume medium or a slim fitting large

I guess going to the gym and autistically counting the macros did some good then? It seems almost too good to be real.
>Or the shirt has a loose design with narrow sleeves.
It is, I bought it when I was full skinnyfat.
>>41009161
I've a fucked up body shape, basically pear body. I store most of the fat in my legs.

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>>41007402
>Daily reminder at the end of the day, only calorie intake matters, ignore fasting autists

>>41009180
fucks's sake meant to quote >>41009121

>>41009184
Mad be sad that you are so desperate to make yourself believe in your fake method to the point you have shills on other generals

>>41007960
>getting adderall from your dealer
Thanks asshole for making me have to get a piss test every 6 months for my vyvanse prescription, because of faggots like you who abuse medication that makes it possible for me to function. Even though my drug is a prodrug that's impossible to abuse, assholes who sell their adderall have made it a condition for a continuing amphetamine prescription to make sure we're taking it.

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>>41009024
>200gr of chicken aka 2 small skewers at beast
>Fills the rest with vegetables
Vegetablefags will always be a sad thing to watch.

Any other potheads in here?

I went from my max weight of 160kgs down to 138kg. At the time I was looking for work so was staying completely clean in case I had to pass a test. Find a job, there's no drug testing policy so last weekend I buy a quarter ounce and start vaping again.

Bam immediately started eating like a slob and as of 2 minutes ago I'm back up to 142kg the first time I have gone backwards since I started. Feel like such a fucking failure.

I love weed and I'm going to miss it but I don't think I have any control with eating when I'm high. Guess I've gotta give it up if I ever want to get healthy

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>>41007402

>>41009279
how fat are you?

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>>41009332
Sorry not a sissy/female like you

>>41009184
"
Whether it’s insulin, dietary fat, the protein:carbohydrate or insulin:glucagon ratio, partitioning or whatever other bullshit, they will make it sound like caloric intake is not the key aspect in whether or not someone gains weight.
In almost all cases, the idea that food intake must be restricted in any fashion is dismissed; if it is mentioned it is generally as a short aside late in the book that nobody pays any attention to.
This is purely a psychological ploy; it sucks to have to consciously restrict food intake and this causes mental stress. Simply knowing that you can’t eat what you want when you want it blows; I hate it as much as the next person. Many people will feel hungrier simply because they know that they can’t eat what they want when they want it."

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/all-diets-work-the-importance-of-calories.html/

>>41009340
t. man-child

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>>41009340
>>41009279
>>41009194
Jesus loves you, anon.

>>41009373
>>41009340
>>41009279
>>41009194
>>41007402

I'm not sure what you are getting at, anon.

>caloric intake is not the key aspect

It isn't. Different foods have different effects on the digestive system. Incredibly different effects on very complex biological processes.

To say that a calorie is a calorie is such a crude misrepresentation of what really matters. To reduce it to such an incredibly vague and idiotic statement is actually a good sign that you are indeed not very smart.

If you ignore insulin, you will fail. If you cut calories and you do not fast, you will fail.

Time and time again people try cutting calories, they eat what they want but with lower portions, they lose some weight, they plateau, they feel miserable, they fail, and they rebound.

The diet is bad, the science is bad, and you are a bad person for perpetuating this bull shit. That, or you are simply an idiot.

Through time, you will see. More and more anon's will have success dieting when they consider insulin and fasting. They will flood the board with success stories, and you will ultimately lose.

>>41007750
not really cause most cico diets don't work past 6 months

>>41009478
I've lost 70 pounds by doing nothing but cutting calories and walking. I don't feel miserable and I don't feel like I am going to just fail and eat 5000 calories a day for a month any time soon. That guy saying shit about vegetables is a retard, but at the end of the day it IS calories in calories out. Fasting is great if that works for you, but there are loads of people here and else where that have lost weight and kept it off by cutting calories and learning how to eat right.

>>41009119
Why not just make your own pizza?

>>41009478
why are you ignoring the laws of thermodynamics?

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>>41007792
>How can you expect your body to adapt properly to nutrients, if you are starving yourself for half of the day

Because historically that's how it worked and what it evolved to handle.

>>41007947
>breakfast
>oh man I need that energy to sit in my car going to work to sit at my desk
>hit the gym after work
>keep it light in the evenings because reasons
>go to sleep
>no gainz because you barely ate anything

Sounds like an excellent program.

>>41009478
Post your progress pics with timestamp

>>41009478
>crude misrepresentation of what really matters.
>Thermodynamics dont matter
Hey retard

>>41009478
>It isn't.
It is.
Consume 20k calories a day with your method, and not gain 5lbs a day. try it.

>>41009184
Only calorie matters but I feel IF has some benefits.

I've done fasting for about a month, and I admit it's helpful for me to limit myself to a certain window in which to eat. Psychologically, if I cut off all food consumption before 6pm, I more easily commit to not eating anything else in the day.

However, I will have to stop doing IF since it really just doesn't fit my schedule. Currently I have to have 2 meals at work, and I'm too busy to fit those in. I barely have enough time to eat 1 meal.

Maybe I will try the 1 meal a day thing at some point, just to see how I feel.

>>41009478
>Time and time again people try cutting calories, they eat what they want but with lower portions, they lose some weight, they plateau, they feel miserable, they fail, and they rebound.

Except they don't when they're fitness enthusiasts. People have been using simple calorie restriction in bulk and cut cycles for ages. The recovery from lowered metabolic rate can be done in a controlled fashion without rebounding to the starting situation.

>More and more anon's will have success dieting when they consider insulin and fasting. They will flood the board with success stories
In addition to the success stories of all those who achieve the same success with traditional methods.

I'm not saying fasting isn't effective. In fact, I'm going try cutting with 2 days at 500kcal with 5-6 days of lifting at a small surplus to get an average 500kcal deficit each week. It's possible this could reduce the metabolic slowdown I experienced on my first cut which I recovered from by slowly increasing calories while lifting.

It's possible that cutting with fasting days could be more effective. I'm willing to consider that possibility. But the way you're talking is as if nobody has made a permanent change in their physique with constant calorie restriction. You're massively overreaching with your belief in fasting. To you, the subject of your faith is having a halo effect on everything it touches. You're falling into a happy spiral of your belief giving you positive feelings of righteousness and those positive feelings being evidence that your belief is a good thing which further hardens your belief.

You need to get away from the things that feed this cycle so you can escape before you become cultist that can never be convinced of anything. Stop advocating. Stop reading stuff about fasting. Do something else for a few months.

>>41009478
>If you ignore insulin, you will fail. If you cut calories and you do not fast, you will fail.
>Time and time again people try cutting calories, they eat what they want but with lower portions, they lose some weight, they plateau, they feel miserable, they fail, and they rebound.

Conflating cause and effect. Because you're a retard.

Fat is energy. Energy consumption and exertion IS the most fucking important part you dumbass.

Not to say it's the only thing that's important, only that without a caloric deficit you're not going to lose any weight, no matter how you eat your fucking food.

>>41009690
Historically we didn't eat grains like rice, historically we wouldn't eat cows, historically a lot of shit you probably eat didn't exist or wasn't used yet.

Don't base everything on prehistory because we aren't hunters and gatherers anymore.

Some people need three meals to function because we as humans do more taxing things on the mind than on the body these days. Without fuel your brain is mush.

Eat a medium sized breakfast, a big lunch, and a small dinner. That's the best way to eat to optimize energy. Focus your carbs on the morning and lunch.

>>41009736
Why would you load up on food before bed? We all know eating after x time = weight gain/poor health is a myth but you should still optimize your diet so you're using what you eat when you're awake.

>>41009925
>Why would you load up on food before bed?

okay we're done here

>>41009478
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html/


"So is a calorie a calorie? Yes and no. Based on the data, my general feeling is this:

A sufficient protein intake will always beat out an insufficient protein intake, no matter what you do. Since all of the diets described in this book are based around sufficient protein, this is a non-issue.

Assuming caloric intake can be controlled (and protein is adequate of course), shuffling of carbs and fats tends to have a minor, approaching negligble effect.
There might be exceptions at the extremes (folks going to single digit bodyfat or extreme obesity) but that doesn’t apply to the majority of folks."

W.o.w.

>>41009925
>still optimize your diet so you're using what you eat when you're awake.
Having 8+ hours when your muscles are building the most, you want to starve them?

>>41009478
First off: Show your proof. If you know better than what professional nutritionists, bodybuilders, and trainers say, then show your proof. If you're making it up then no one has any reason to believe or trust you.

That said, none of what you say is logical at all.

People fail when they cut calories because they often don't exercise on top of it, meaning they don't realize that they can eat more if they're working it off. That's the basis of calories in, calories out is that you should be working out on top of it. Then you can eat enough to be satisfied throughout the day and have calories left over, resulting in your body using the fat stores, muscle build, and weight loss.

Another reason people fail is that most people when they cut calories don't eat what they enjoy or want and instead eat what they view as "diet food" meaning they get bored of what they're eating, thinking things like carbs and sugar are the devil rather than necessary parts of our diet.


People who fail and rebound more often do so because they aren't seeing results (likely because they're eating too little by not properly understanding cals in, cals out like you seem to not understand. While yes eventually your body will start to lose when you eat too little, if you do so consistently it will hold onto fat because it worries you won't be eating enough again soon. That's as simple as I can state it but there's more to it. Google it if you're a retard who doesn't believe me).

Show proof because the science isn't bad.

Does what you eat matter just as much as cals in cals out? Yeah, if you want to be healthy, feel good, and optimize your body towards your goals. But you can gain weight whether you eat 3000 calories of junk food or 3000 calories worth of healthy foods like blueberries or something.

The calories and micro/macro nutrients matter.

Fasting isn't for everyone and most people will not be successful if they fast, either gaining the weight back or binging after

That one guy who is furiously upset that people eat meals at different times than him and experience positive results

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>>41009994
>they aren't seeing results (likely because they're eating too little

Starvation memer pls go.

>>41009589
I second this but I think anon still made a somewhat good compromise at least. The whole point of delivery/frozen pizza is that it's quick and effortless. Making your own pizza will satisfy the craving in a healthier way but unless you have space to freeze a few after you make them, it won't have the same quickness and ease factor.

>>41009808
Second this. Anyone trying dispute facts should post their source and their own progress pics.

>>41009964
This is /fat/ no one in this thread is bulking. No one in this thread has any reason to eat a mountain of food before bed. Lunch should be your biggest meal, dinner smallest.

>>41009977
See above. I didn't say starve them i said don't be a retard and think skipping breakfast and eating a mountain of food before you sleep is beneficial to /fat/asses.

>>41010029
Not a meme retard.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/536160-can-eating-too-few-calories-prevent-weight-loss/

Show me your source if i'm wrong.

>>41010044
>Effects on Weight Loss
>Eating too few calories won’t prevent you from losing weight.

First paragraph of your source.

>>41010053
>However, it can slow down your body’s metabolism, making it more difficult to shed pounds.

Literally the second sentence, dipshit, keep trying.

>>41010063
samefagging to add my original post did clarify that it wouldn't be IMPOSSIBLE and your body would eventually lose weight because otherwise anorexics wouldn't look like skeletons.

Seriously learn some reading comprehension.

>>41010063
Haven't been involved in this, but obviously it's not a very well written article if it contridicts itself in the first sentences.

I don't see how 'losing weight' and 'shedding pounds' are different, unless it's meant to be different degrees of exaggerations.

>>41010079
If you think that's a contradiction, english must not be your first language.

It said
>making it more difficult
not
>making it impossible

There's a difference between losing weight slower than you could be and not losing weight at all, are you seriously this retarded?

>>41010063
Which is not sourced by anything. Here's the study the article is quoting, they didn't even bother linking it. I can publish a load of horseshit on the internet too, mention an unrelated study and 90% of retards reading it won't bother looking up what the study actually studied.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988070

why are we all being so fucking autistic

calories in calories out. have a deficit of 500 to 1000, even more if you are morbidly obese. Don't go below 1000 calories a day. Exercise if you want to.

If keto, Atkins, IF, Paleo, vegan, twinkies only etc help you do that then god speed you'll make it if you stick to it.

>>41010033
>it won't have the same quickness and ease factor.
none of his food should have this. he should get used to making food from scratch and with quality. if he wants quick and easy food then vegetables and fruit should be his only option. hands down. imagine every time you want a nibble or feel peckish, and you satisfy it with 30 cal of carrot or 50 cal of apple. that's how you make it.

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i read somewhere that cold foods inherently have lower calories than hot foods since your body temp goes down slightly when you eat cold stuff. so the body has to expend extra calories to warm you back up. so like a cold slice of pizza would be like 50 calories less than a hot slice.

does anyone know if there's any truth to this?

>>41010185
>50 calories
even if this was true it'd be completely negligible amount.

>>41010185
technically true but negligible effect.

>>41010185
>so like a cold slice of pizza would be like 50 calories less than a hot slice.

If we're talking about small calories, as in, 0.05kcal less, then that sounds about right.

>>41010185
this is true but the effect is very very small like in single / low double digits.

1 cal is need to heat up 1g water by 1 C° ( around 4,1855 J - also imperial fag BTFO)

so if you drink 1000g of 27 C° water and bring it up by 10 to 37C° body temp you need 10Kcal around 1.1 g of fat. for you body to maintains its wanted core temperature.

>>41010279
>consume 1500g of water at absolute 0
>body has to burn ~500 calories to raise it to body temp
>do this every day eating maintenance
>lose 1 pound a week doing nothing but drinking cold water

cutting made easy

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>tfw too scared to post pic of self to a qt i have feelings for
>just 40 more pounds til my goal weight
>try to be honest about why i wont
>"post belly"
>still can't do it cause i hate myself a little too much still

>>41010311
I think you can do this by just cooling yourself.

http://news.stanford.edu/2012/08/29/cooling-glove-research-082912/

Though hypothermia would be a real concern if you were to use this for long periods of time.

>>41007402
Jafar treats Iago horrible all through the movie. One piecemeal gift, which makes Iago appear more like Jafar is not a sign of friendship. It's a sign of narcissistic ownership.

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>my body is ready
>start working out hard
>tendinitis in my neck and back
>my body wasn't ready at all

>take dog out for a big walk, 5 miles in total up through the woods
>get home, realise at some point during the walk i lost my phone
>do it all again straight after while my dog sleeps at home

i am fucking dying, found my phone at least

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Which one is the best if I'm diagnosed with prediabetes?

>>41010619
The lowest carb option? Didn't you get a diet prescription along with your diagnosis?

>>41010619
best to listen to your doctor. i think low carb is good. but isn't stuff like glycaemic index important?

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>>41009010
come to think of it, i've seen a lot of "happy" fat people on tv promoting how they can still be healthy while being fat, but in my experience i can't think of a single person i've met in real life that enjoyed being fat. most were either trying to lose weight through diet/exercise or had accepted they'd be fat forever without putting any effort in and wallowed in their misery

>>41010138
Yeah but at the same time there's going to be a day where he's going to be with friends who want to order pizza. If he can convince them to make one he has in his freezer already it might save him a day of guilt.

There's nothing wrong with making a slightly better choice, especially if he
>ate ONE slice
>it worked with his macros/micros/calories etc

I mean cals in, cals out, you can literally live off chips if you keep track of it (You'll feel like garbage but you can do it).

>>41010185
It's technically true and works in the opposite way too (eating hot foods makes your body need to cool itsself down). But like others said, it's such a miniscule amount it's not really worth it. Drink ice water instead of lukewarm if you really want that extra 50 calorie burn.

>>41010414
Hey anon have you lost any weight already? Maybe you can say "All i have is this right now.." and show her a before/after pic of your progress. It'll show that you're actively working on your body but that you still have a little way to go. Maybe that'll help, plus you can show off your progress and dedication.

>>41010446
>its a parrot
>Jafar literally owns him and is friends with him
They do share some good conversations in the movie, i look at them more like two friends that are sick of eachother's shit.

>>41010531
Hahaaha glad you found it anon.

>>41010619
Did your doctor not talk to you at all about what to do with your diet dude? Low carb. If your doctor didn't tell you anything or give you an information packet or SOMETHING about your diagnosis, then you need to find a new doctor.

>>41010781
Here's a question, how exactly does being not healthy ruin your life?

Being healthy wont magically make you feel better, being healthy is literally irrelevant to your life, you can still be happy and enjoy life as someone unhealthy.

This pathetic weakness and mental issue is everywhere these days, you dont have the will to survive and be your own person so instead you try to follow what others tell you is correct, muh nature, muh healthyness, muh morality.

All are irrelevant at the end of the day when it comes to your enjoyment because they are just an excuse to justify your actions and depend on instead of like a smart person do what he desires and ignore everything.

Also bellies are awesome, cuddly af, im mainly losing weight for a long term surgery in the future but i will still date chubby gays, i am not into repulsive /fit/izens or skellingtons

Problem is finding non retarded fat gays who arent depressed or all boring and sad

>>41010785
>They do share some good conversations in the movie, i look at them more like two friends that are sick of eachother's shit.
>>41010446
>Jafar treats Iago horrible all through the movie. One piecemeal gift, which makes Iago appear more like Jafar is not a sign of friendship. It's a sign of narcissistic ownership.
Now i have to rewatch the movie, havent seen it for like 19 years probably

>>41010781
Fat acceptance is literally just lying to yourself that it's okay you're too lazy and noncontrolling to get into shape.

Fat acceptance should only apply to people who have an extra few pounds of fat on their body (people who looks fine under clothes but when their clothes are off you can see they're out of shape). That's about as far as fat acceptance should go. These people are probably still perfectly healthy they just don't work out enough to lose the little extra fat (especially happens to people in middle age and older because of metabolism slowing down).

But there's no way anyone more fat than that is perfectly healthy. I won't believe it.


I think it's fine to love your body no matter what size you are. It's not fine to ignore the fact that your body is affecting your health


Like here's a story to just kinda show my point
>be me
>starting weight 241
>currently 224 (Hovering here but still seeing fat loss, just only track body measurements once a month so i haven't done them yet. Lifting so it's fluctuating
>Be the other day
>Carrying groceries to second floor apartment
>I'm lazy so i grab ALL of the bags to make one trip instead of multiple
>Get to the top of the stairs
>What the fuck?
>I'm not out of breath
>I'm breathing only slightly quicker than at rest
>but i feel fine


This was the first sign to me that not only was my body's appearance improving but my health really was too. Usually coming upstairs even without any bags would have me panting.

It's not a lot of difference in weight yet but i still feel like an entirely new person.

>>41010837
Please kill yourself.

That said, being healthier does make you happier
>able to do things easier
>lowered depression
>higher energy
>more confidence
>all this leads to trying new things
>new experiences
>new friends
>Better life

This has been my experience so far in a span of a month and a week.

You're just a fat cunt probably losing weight for gastric bypass because you're too weak and lazy to commit to not being a fat disgusting autist.

Go back to tumblr, no one here wants to hear your fat acceptance bullshit.

Btw if you get that bypass, enjoy shitting your pants when you eat things like bread or meat lmfao.

>>41010785
i've lost 20
but i want to lose 20 more first. I'm actually losing a lot pretty fast, because my appetite over corrected itself and is now on the road to hungry skeleton mode if i don't fix it.

>>41010856
I watched it when Robin Williams died because it was the first movie I saw with him in it (like most people). The two Genie songs are the best songs in the movie, he has so much energy in them.

But i love the scenes with Iago and Jafar a lot more than I did as a kid. As a kid Jafar was just scary and even and his parrot was funny because of his voice but a BAD BAD PARROT.
Now they're my favourites over aladdin and jasmine.

>>41010891
I have the same issue. I keep forgetting to eat at least one meal a day (if it's not breakfast, it's lunch) and i only notice as i'm completing my MFP entry for the day and see i didn't even hit 1000 calories. Which results in me eating a banana or an apple or something just to bump it to at least 1000 even though i'm not hungry at all.

It's easier to ignore my hunger too. Like i've been sitting here with my stomach literally loudly growling because I need breakfast but I keep thinking "Oh yeah..I'll get some in a minute." and then an hour passes before I realize I still haven't eaten.

I should probably go do that now...

Luckily i'm a femanon so whether i'm a muscular type of girl or just skinny and lithe it won't make a difference to me. I just want girl abs (like the kind most models have not steroid sixpack abs) and a perky ass and i'll be happy.

>>41010887
>That said, being healthier does make you happier
False, weaklings just try to ride the "im healthy so it means im better" just like "im a good person that means i should feel better about my sad self"

Healthiness is irrelevant to happiness, it is just what weak people with no self awareness try to attach themselves to because they lack the ability to find what gives them joy and makes them happy so instead they try to see what society deems good and try to adopt it.

Most of what you said can be achieved without being healthy, the issue is in your mind, not your body.

>>41010887
>Implying i would bother with fat loss surgies
Lmao, sorry to break your bubble, but it is more transhumanist tier thing, since as you dont know, the body is quite irrelevant and should be changed according to one's desires :3

>>41010936
It's a good feeling though, that i don't stress eat or sad eat anymore and i don't want candy at all.
If i didn't count my calories, then i wouldn't thing i have a problem

>>41010960
>this much delusion

Enjoy being fat and unable to do most things, thus making you less happy.

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>>41010672
>>41010719
>>41010785
Sorry. I forgot to mention that I was diagnosed 17 months ago.

I'll see another doctor in a month because of work. Am I fucked?

>>41011011
As expected, another sad self hating person who cant solo for shit and needs to depend on others and beliefs to go on with his life, how sad.

Well not like 4chan is known for intellectuals, most people are just weak willed people begging for social support from each other to go on

>>41010960
>>41011042
Yup, there is literally no health benefits of being healthy. It is all just mental.

Just ignore the hundreds of studies saying otherwise.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666313003991

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>>41011042
I can't tip hard enough or over state how much projection and denial was in this post, so here's a smug anime face instead.

Keep being an unhappy fat fuck who will statistically die decades before I will.

>>41011011
>unable to do most things
Yeah because most entertainment these days requires heavy muscle strength hahahaha.

>>41011078
>>41011080
>Im too dumb to live my life
>Im a sad and worthless nobody
>But maybe if i become a healthy, good, moral person i ll feel better for my sad self cuz thousands of other worthless sad people will support me
Ok ;^)

>>41011090
Are you an IMAX, because that was some commercial grade projection.

>>41011090
>trying to refute hundreds of scientific studies with ironic shit posting

You got me buddy.

>>41011099
Posting to acknowledge this

>>41009589
There was offer on a chilled pizza from a well known Italian restaurant. It had good macros and tastes nice.

Also I've never made my own pizza and i had planned on buying domino's than checked their prices on way home from work so stopped off at supermarket

>>41011099
>>41011119
You know the truth deep down, else you wouldnt be this triggered by reality ;^)

>>41011108
I explained how it worked psychologically, delusions dont make something real even if they make the idiot feel better for himself.a

>>41011130
I was just posting to think that anons comment was funny you delusional fatty

>>41011130
You explained jack shit fucking moron. You are just pulling shit out of your ass trying to go against hard proof saying otherwise.


Please link some scientific research that shows that weight loss does not play any role on mood or health. I'd love to read those studies.

>>41011039
depends prediabetes is basicly the last chance to turn it around before you become diabetic.
so did you start with at least some form of diet and started to do a little sport ?

3 most helpful things are weight control, exercise, nutrition you will need to turn you life/health around and make a permanent lifestyle change

>>41011130
Who says I'm triggered? I'm laughing that a fatty is explaining his own life while desperately trying to project it on to me.

The more you post, the sadder you become. Sorry Bubba.

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>>41010857
congrats on the progress so far anon. keep going, we're all gonna make it. had a similar experience walking up a semi-steep hill to get to work, used to get winded when i was heavier, lost some weight and have been getting in better shape, the hill doesn't even phase me anymore. such a small but good feeling

>>41011167
Reread what i said, if you dont realize how i explained it then it is denial, cant survive if all your other beliefs are broken so denial helps you form collapsing

>>41011204
>explaining his own life
kek, please do make up more rationalizations about how i am wrong and you are totally not triggered for being a sad self hating failure like most people on earth ;^)

>>41011304
I don't care about some fat stupid random persons "explaining", link me hard studies.

Just because some anon tells me dogs are actually lizardkin, I'm not going to just believe his stupid theories without evidence.

>>41010960
How fat are you? :)
Seriously you sound like a faggot who's never felt the touch of a human being. The world would be better off without you. If you're so transhumanist and feel the body is irrelevant, then please do this world a favor and die. There's enough idiots on this planet. Seriously. If you kill yourself that will make everyone here happy I'm sure of it.

I'm probably happier than you are at any rate considering i'm not a sad worthless faggot telling people being fat is the way to be happy lmfao.

You're the one who's delusional sweetheart.

>>41011204
This entirely.

>>41011286
Thanks anon! :) Nothing is better than accomplishing something you didn't think you could do before. I feel like if I can reach my weight loss goals I can literally do ANYTHING.
We're gonna make it.

Delusional fatty i'm replying to above isn't gonna make it but the world's better off without him anyway lol.

>>41011304
You're wrong because science says so.

Science > fat retards

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Stop arguing with gay chubby chasers

The only thing more degenerate is if he was a tranny chubby chaser

>>41011343
>all this delusion and projection

Makes me glad that I'll never be a fatty :^)

>>41011350
Science actually supports my case, psychology.

A generic study that merely finds that a loser is happier when healthy and attributing that to healthiness is quite dumb and simple minded

But of course, like most weak people you cant argue yourself, you try to throw around names, figures and things like "Science" because you lack the ability to do anything yourself ;^)

Let me repeat
>Sad loser with nothing in life is fat
>Cant admit the issue is him so he blames his fat
>Instead of being himself and finding who they are they instead adopt beliefs such as healthyness, nationalism, religion and a shitton of other idiotic things in an attempt to feel support and feel better for themselves.

And thus they delude themselves into thinking they are happy yet they get really easily triggered because if you get support from anything but your own self and abilities, you are weak and deep down you know it, that is why nationalists are so desperate, because if you remove nationalism from them, they are nothing

>>41011377
>Implying chubby hairy men arent the best
I am sorry for your shit taste in men :\

>>41011343
> The world would be better off without you.
Oh laooks like i have triggered someone severely ;^)
Now quick, deny it

>>41011377
Stop vargposting

>>41011398
>Science actually supports my case, psychology.

Still waiting on those links.

>>41011398
>just argued with his own post

Top Kek fatties are dumb

>>41011386
Oh honey i know, it's so hard to project and be delusional isn't it? Don't worry, one day you'll look in the mirror and realize you're disgusting and will do the right thing and slit your throat.

>reusing that same emoticon in every post
>literally a drooling retard with downs

Lmfao. God you must be massive to be projecting this much onto everyone here.

What even is the point of these discussion?. Stay focused on the fucking goal goddamit nobody cares how you're doing it if it works for you. Just stop shilling.

I blame the OP for all the bait and shitposting in this general.

Fat wojak protects these generals

>>41011377
>He isnt watching the /trash/ chubby gay fur thread

>>41011425
>shilling
Where anon
Fuck off with your shitt /v/ buzzword and talk about le gamergate or some shit

>>41011398
Post your sources, dumbass, your word is meaningless on an anonymous message board.

Let me point this out to you
Me
>Be fat
>But also have a lot of money
>Also married to a sexy skinny guy
>Have a home together
>Make good money doing what I love doing
>Losing weight is just making me happier with myself personally

See the problem with you arguments is that you forgot the most important thing: LOGIC.

I'm not a nationalist so I don't get what that has to do with anything lmfao.

You haven't triggered anyone, jesus christ, you're just gay. Gay and stupid. The only thing triggering is the fact that someone as stupid as you is allowed to live.

Also
>>41011418
LMFAO
seriously you're a retard. Please die.

>>41011422
Nice projection. Were you billed in school or something?

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>>41011404

>>41011461
>literally arguing with yourself

Kek

>>41011461
>Literally tries to use the most stereotypical excuses to say his life is good instead of telling he is good
Like i said, keep deluding yourself and telling yourself how happy you are ;^)

>>41011465
No i went to public school so I didn't get a bill for anything. The bill would've gone to my parents anyway :)


How many times you gonna say projection before you realize you're the only one here projecting?

>>41011465
>First day of duck school
>Left bill at home
>All the Chad Geese started forcefully putting a bill on me
>Stacy Swans laughed

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>>41011465
yeah bill nyed.

>>41011456
People trying to demostrate the superiority of their way of dieting with a mixture on facts, bullshit and memes.

>>41011425
Who is /fat/ for? Fat members of /fit/ who want
>Lose weight
>Get a more /fit/ body by lifting weights
>Autistically change your diet to some ultra vegetable no sweets autism because extremism is always good am i right ;^)
Here we ask others for advice and give moral support to one another if you are too weak to survive solo. We all know losing weight when you are fat is easy if you just reduce calorie intake, literally piece of cake. At the end of the day this is a support general whose goal is to help and motivate the chubby channers who need to lose weight for a number of reason.

read the OP

>>41011474
You're confused sweetie

>>41011475
>instead of telling he is good
Wanna try that again, princess? You had a stroke midway through your sentence

>>41011506
Stop arguing with yourself fatty

>>41011500
I've been here for a couple of months, recevied good advice. The spirit should be (and has been) exchange of views not autistic bickering, at least in my opinion.

>>41011475
Post your boipucci and let's see if you are a fat ass

>>41011500
This.

Plus some chubby channers don't have any kind of support system at home. Some come from fat families, or live alone without a lot of people to talk to about how they feel regarding this. It's just a good place to know you're not alone while losing weight.

It's also a good thread that keeps a lot of beginner discussion off the main /fit/ page so fitizens who are actually fit don't have the front page flooded with as many noob questions (So why so many of them choose to come in here and clog it up with retardation, ensuring that fat discussion ends up on the main page is beyond me, but i guess they need a break from talking about penises)

>go from 350 to 200lbs
>have been stalled at 200 for the last fucking year
>made some minor muscle gains but not really
>new job stresses me and, even worse than that, has me in situations where I work 14-16 hour shifts 6 days a week, PLUS I can't count calories because the food they serve me doesnt come with nutrition labels, PLUS going to the gym sucks ass because it's small as fuck and always super crowded
>crowded as in, 2 smith machines for 20-30 dudes

Fuark brehs.

I just want to get down to 170 already.

Suffering.

>>41011536
Lol you went from the stupid nose emoticon to trying to pretend you weren't an autistic retard in this thread. Good job.

>>41011545
Agreed. Retards just make me mad so I ended up going off because I want them to leave lol. Like I legitimately hate people who are that pretentious while also being legitimately fullblown assburgers.

I may be fat but i can change that. You'll forever be an unloved retard. I feel better remembering that hahahaha.

>>41011549
I'm 5'1 fatty femanon that posts in this thread every so often, i'm not the nose emoticon dude. I AM a fatass that's why I post in /fat/ instead of other threads.

>>41011580
Okay step one
Quit bitching so damn much.

Step two, if you don't know what's in the food, bring your own fucking lunch idiot.

Step three, STOP MAKING SO MANY EXCUSES holy shit you sound like a girl.

Step four...is that even fucking legal working 14-16 hour shifts?

>>41011590
>so mad that you start ad homming

How fat are you btw? 250? 300? :^)

>>41011598
Hmm I thought you were the gay guy.

Post feet then

>>41011612
step four wasn't a step. i'm sleep deprived whatever.
Point stands. All of the shit you whined about is an excuse, not a reason. Learn the difference.

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How much fat can I lose in the next couple weeks? Enough for abs to show?

>>41011612

Hard to bring my own lunch when I'm in a floating metal box in the middle of the ocean, anon.

Amazon Prime ain't gonna two day me chicken breast.

>is it even legal working 14-16 hour shifts?

Maybe? Aint like that's gonna stop them from making me work.

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>>41011545
oh i totally agree, anon. thought you were one of the anons saying that /fat/ threads are stupid/unnecessary. i've gotten a lot of advice as well, new exercise ideas, healthier recipes, etc. love reading stories about people's progress, it's great motivation to keep pushing when it seems easy to give in and pig out

>>41011621
My feet are spoken for.
>>41011616
>so pretentiously assburgers you think you know what logic is too
Honey please stop trying, everyone here already knows you're stupid.

I've already posted my weight. You avoided and dodged every question anyone here asked you because you're sad and probably really ugly (Post a pic if you're not :) ) Someone with radium jaw probably looks more attractive than you do and would probably be happier than you too.

>in b4 delusions and projecting because they're the only words you seem to be able to spell correctly

>>41011638
you have no abs to show

>>41011669
Lmfao well you didnt exactly give any kind of details
But that being said, you can always, yknow, fucking ask or make not stupid lunch choices? Or guesstimate to keep track.

Sounds like you might either work on a cruise ship or are in the navy or some shit in which case, they could work you like a legitimate slave and no one would give a fuck if you cried about it. Sounds like a shitty career anon i hope it's not as bad as I'm thinking it is.

Everything else is still an excuse though.

>>41011673
Me too :) It's nice to see others succeeding too. Especially when most of /fit/ itsself is
>BAW WHY NO GF YET
>WHY CAN'T I RESIST MY OWN PENIS FIT
>FIT MADE ME GAY

>>41011688
I definitely have enough for skinny abs

>>41011714
Why the rush anyway, anon?
Just keep working on both and you'll see the results when it's time to see results.

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>>41011708
>>WHY CAN'T I RESIST MY OWN PENIS FIT

What do they mean by they can't resist their own penis?

>>41011684
Post your weight fatboy. I need a good laugh. :^)

>>41011708
>But that being said, you can always, yknow, fucking ask or make not stupid lunch choices? Or guesstimate to keep track.

I do.

I aint making excuses nigga, I still go to the gym every other day even on deployment. I've made gains, I've recomped decently and gained strength in muscles that were basically atrophied because of being a former ambulocetus.

I'm just frustrated that I'm not anywhere close to done after years of work.

And I'm letting off steam here, because it's a thread full of people who might share in my frustration.

Shit, nigga.

>sounds like a shitty career i hope it's not as bad as I'm thinking it is

Has its ups and downs. Living in Japan and going to ports is pretty fuckin' cool.

Just a couple more years til I get that sweet sweet GI bill, assuming the Russians don't blow me up before then.

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>>41011736
Lmfao I meant the nofap threads

>>41011747
You're so autistic you missed the multiple times i not only said my weight but mentioned being a femanon.

You also still ignored all my questions so anon is confirmed for uglier than someone with radium jaw. We can officially ignore him, no one cares about uggos.

>>41011731
Actually I have a trip in a couple weeks and there's gonna be a bunch of girls on the beach looking for someone to dick them down, just trying to advertise

>>41011765
You never once posted your weight. Nice try though, fatty. Post it so I can laugh :^)

>>41011763
Fair enough man, I think I misread your post a bit because I'm kinda half asleep haha.

Anyway I think you should focus on performance rather than aesthetic while you're deployed. Better to be able to handle whatever's gonna be asked of you than to fail in strength because you worried more about goals right? Idk. Good luck dude, that sounds kinda shitty in some ways but i know there's some good experiences in there you won't replicate elsewhere. I wanted to join the marines a few years back but i'm glad I didn't. I hate the government too much to serve it but i respect those who do whether their reason is opportunity, school, or genuine pride.

Just hang in there anon it'll be easier to do when you're not stuck on a ship.

>>41011776
I don't think you'll be aesthetic enough to get beach sluts anon. Look for the shy girls that's your best bet at this stage.

>>41011788
Post your face. I did post my weight you're just unfathomably stupid and missed it. Try learning some reading comprehension uggo?

Still convinced you're fatter than me lmfao because you dodge so many questions on here.

Also why are you both amused AND seemingly surprised someone posting in /fat/ is fat?

I literally didn't know someone as utterly void of any amount of intelligence or logic existed until now.
I'd say "please don't reproduce" but we both know there's no risk of that happening hahahaha.

>>41011818
Post your weight. What are you afraid of, Ms Piggy?

>>41011083
The actually fulfilling entertainment is all active.
Rock climbing, bicycle touring, skateboarding, crowdsurfing at music shows, team sports. These are the things you look back at with fondness, not the 8 hours you spent in front of a screen marathoning House.

>>41011831
Tell you what, You post a picture of yourself, timestamped, and i'll do you one better and post one of me, with weight, and timestamp. But you have to do it first because you've literally dodged every question everyone has asked you like a gigantic pussy. I've literally posted my weight twice in this thread, it's not my fault you're too stupid to go back and read it.

>>41011848
You're the only person who replied to any of my posts. You've been impersonating multiple people and arguing with yourself over whether losing weight makes ou happy, and then confuse my posts for someone else's. So post your weight, ms piggy. If you've posted it already (which you haven't), then what's the problem?

>>41011845
>Rock climbing, bicycle touring, skateboarding, crowdsurfing at music shows, team sports
>This is entertainment
Lmao

>>41011859
I've never impersonated multiple people or argued with myself on anything lol. Its easy as fuck to see when i'm posting because i'll reply to multiple posts at one time like i've done in my other posts. I'm not the only one who's replied to you i'm just the only one too bored to stop.

And the problem is i won't give you the satisfaction of making fun of me for being a whale (Which i am? I know I am? That's why I POST IN FAT lmfao like whats the point of knowing?). Especially when if you just learn to use the scroll wheel on your mouse you can FIND where I posted my weight already.

I want YOU to post your pic first because you're a pussy and i want to see how ugly you are. Do it pussy.

>>41011860
How does not one of those things sound fun to you unless you're 400+ pounds?

>>41011905
Because video games, mmorpgs with friends, anime, movies, tv series, lewd art are all better?

>>41011905
>so mad at being a whale that you refuse to post your weight in a thread dedicated to fat people
>so bitter that you need to try and bring a non fatty down just to feel good

Hahahaha, I thank god I'll never be as pathetic as you. Or as fat hahahaha.

Btw I know you're lying about postin your weight. Ctrl+F is a handy tool, ms piggy

>First people start saying CICO doesn't work
>Now people deny that not being a fatass is not connected with mental health
Next thing they'll say going to the gym is bad for you.

>>41011920
is connected*

>>41011905
Samefagging

I went and looked and realized I did exaggerate a little. I posted once my weight here and mistakenly thought you saw it but it was actually shortly before you started posting.

But i still want to see what you look like because you're clearly hiding something.

Come on anon, it's one thing to know my weight but don't you wanna see just how bad it is? I'll even dig up my before picture so you can see how fat i was a month ago to go along with it. All i want to see is if you're truly uglier than someone with a radium jaw.

>>41011905
Hey fatty, post your weight

>>41011915
>virgin spotted

Jokes aside, i love all of those things but none of them are better than actual experiences.

>>41011917
>being this afraid to show your ugly face to a fatass
How sad for you that you're not more confident than a fat chick on the internet. See >>41011931
This post where I realized my mistake btw but I did post it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which post is me, who else writes as much as I do?

Still too pussy to show your face though so i guess you're okay admitting you're probably uglier than boil leg james's legs. Probably fatter than him too.

I do apologize for my mistake, i've said a few times i'm sleep deprived. Eating well and exercise don't do shit for insomnia unfortunately.

Why you this obsessed with my weight, uglyanon?

>>41011949
>so afraid to post your weight that you literally, LITERALLY invent something to attack me with

That straw man sure is taking a beating.

>>41011949
>none of them are better than actual experiences.
Ok anon when magic is invented and when i can go around killing people without going to jail or dying call me, i might be interested

>>41011949
So you're 221 lbs as a female at 5'4? Because that's the only post with as much text as yours that references a weight without a height above your previously stated height.

>>41011957
You don't know what a straw man argument is please stop pretending you have a brain.

>>41011959
If that's your only incentive for playing video games you need therapy anon.

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>>41011966
>221 lbs as a female at 5'4

>>41011973
>make up a point
>attack that point
>not a strawman

How does it feel to be so insecure that you have to invent reasons to fight back against others?

Post your weight fatty. Or confirm that it's 221lbs at 5'4

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why is /fat/ the most autistic thread on /fit/?

>>41011993
Because fat people are insecure and have stunted brain development.

>>41011966
Wow you actually DO know how to go looking for information by yourself. So proud anon, what a big boy.

But no that one isn't me. But since you're too ugly to post your picture i'll help you out
>>41010857
224 at 5'1. I'm not afraid i just don't like handing people information they can scroll up to find. It just took me awhile to realize I mis-remembered the post which was my mistake.

So since i'll never get to see how disgusting you really are because you're such a pussy I'm gonna go ahead and get breakfast before i go to the gym.

I'm fat, yeah. I'm 224 at 5'1. That's massive. But i'm going go the gym and haven't missed a beat on my progress in over a month (Minus my birthday).

I don't get why you were sooo desperate to know. Let me guess, gonna call me miss piggy again? Oh my fee fees, my fragile little fee fees. I had no idea i was fat until you said that! Oh wait.

I legitimately cannot fathom how someone can be as stupid as you anon but at least i know you're too assburgers to reproduce and pass it on so that's seriously brought me some comfort here.


Anyway love the rest of you /fat/ keep it up. We can all make it :)

>>41011993
Because some autists come here thinking everyone is a worthless self hating retard that will suck their dick and anything they say and follow their "advice"

>>41011915

Are you even out of your teens? Because in 10 years you're gonna realize those things aren't even fun anymore, and you spent your youth passing time, with nothing to show for it and no memories worth keeping.

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>>41012009
>224 at 5'1

AAAAHAHAHAHAHA

GOD DAMN

Best fucking laugh of the day. Enjoy being a literal planet.

>you will never get your own planetary distinction

>>41011993
>implying /fat/ is more autistic than nofap or sips threads.

>>41012012
Go away /v/tard, i enjoyed mass errect Andromeda and im 25 years old so i dont have autism like you to hate anything new and popular.

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>>41012009
>yfw this person is almost 50% fat by weight

>>41012012
I'm 26. How old are you, 10?

>>41012020
And enjoy never feeling a fit anon's dick in your tight little gay asshole, uggo.

Like I said, being fat is fine since i'll be fit in a couple of years. Being autistic, ugly, and alone is forever :) Hope you have the money to fix your broken ass face anon lmfao.

>>41012045
Yeah i think when my trainer and I did my percentages it was something like 42%.

I wouldn't be posting in /fat/ if i was proud of it yknow? So i dunno. Insult me all you want. My family has said worse than anyone else can and if they don't bother me anymore, some ugly pussies on 4chan aren't going to lmfao.

Like damn i even offered to show the trainwreck that is my current body off but anon is too ugly and scared to post his face.

>>41012053
>so insecure that you have to keep strawmanning

Fat women are so insecure holy shit hahahaha.