How do you fix the shoulderlet problem /fit/ ? This i probably

>>41000943
work on shoulders , all of their heads

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>>41000943
reminder that the guy on the right looks like shit

>>41000943
Work shoulders and lats, not too much traps (too much is the guy on the left, too little is the guy on the right, aim for middlegroud).

Then work lats again.

And again.

And again.

And again.

>>41000943
lot of lat raises, lots of overhead press. You'll get there provided you're using enough volume.

>>41000962
Those hips... Without them he could be a 10. Why is God so cruel?

>>41000994
>being this delusional
He's still a 10. You need to get off /fit/.

>>41000962
>>41000943
it's literally the same guy, idiot

clavicle width is skeletal (genetic)

You can make your deltoids bigger (hardly if natural), but that wideness comes from the actual shape of your skeleton, like the hips

>>41001113
what did you mean by this

>>41000980
is it harder to get good traps if you have naturally broad shoulders?

>>41000962
Reminder that it's the shoulder to waist ratio that is attractive to women, and that the shoulder to hip ratio has no effect. This is why people like Ryan Gosling are still attractive even though they have wide hips.

>>41001113
are you retarded mate?

>>41000994
d e l u s i o n

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>>41001113

When will /fit/ realize that the only thing wrong with the left one is the face

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>>41001113

>>41000943
Isolate rear, side and front delts and train for hypertrophy 2x a week. NEVER work obliques or abs.
Get dem lats and dat chest.
NEVER wok traps,

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>>41000962
Hmm yes i'm sure the average girl would think he looks shit

When will you gymcels understand?

It's HEIGHT, FACE, AND FRAME.

It's like you are determined not to listen.

You hit the GYM HARD, while Chad eats pizza

Girls look at your gymcel body and think "ewww what a try hard" while they look at the chad and think "i love him, he just does what he wants, not even concerned about the whole bodybuilding thing".

Chad STILL looks INFINITELY better than you because of his GENETICALLY DETERMINED HEIGHT, FRAME and FACE.

Women are getting more and more choice and validation and its either CHAD or NOTHING

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>>41001113

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>>41001625

The face is not the issue.

>tfw narrowish shoulders AND wide hips

Its not fair why god why???

>>41000962
Lol at those legs

>>41000962
This doesn't make me feel as bad for having wide hips. I just need to cut more so it doesn't look like fat

>>41002263
I keked

I have really wide shoulders and really wide hips aswell.

Im 6'4 so I think it looks fine.

fyi people, guy on the left is wider than right irl

this /r9k/ bullshit is poison for newfags

>>41002335
no u

>>41002263
Its not just frame, the guy on the left is on roids, and he made is proportions look retarded. Look at his ballon pecs, his lack of balanced muscle proportions. He would probably look better natty.

>>41002335
PIZZA

>>41002335
It's fucking girls from /r9k/, they're even worse to other girls.

>>41002197
>Hmm yes i'm sure the average girl would think he looks shit

redpilled by /fit/ and /pol/ etc..

nigga he hot u stfu. yes im gay

>>41002263

honestly amazing how much impact FRAME has on aesthetics. I thought it was just the faces giving the guy on the right the advantage, but now I truly see why FRAME is alongside HEIGHT and FACE

>>41002571
You though the HEIGHT FACE FRAME thingy was a meme boe?