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Fraud

steroids sometimes, blogging most of the time

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

read ALL of https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index before asking your retarded ass questions

prev: >>40808637
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First for where to get needles online

Mods- needles are legal :^)
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>>40821388

THAT was his girl for a while?

Fuck, bad taste, Zyzz.
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>thread posted 5 posts early
don't do that

>>40821394
gpzmedlabs, Amazon or literally your local pharmacy
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>>40821430
still would. plastic bimbo 101, but looks fun to bump uglies with.
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>>40821433
so I could buy needles in person from walgreens??
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>>40821465
Just say ur diabetic
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>>40821522
yeah but insulin needles are different aint they. theyre not 25g 1"incher liek I want
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>>40821531
say you are prescribed test from your doc and need needles for that
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>>40821531
>>40821544
Literally ask for the gauge you need. Most don't give a flying fuck, and if they do, find another. Just don't look like a junkie or grossly dickskin overswole, and nobody will mind.
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>>40821590
aight. was hesitant at first because when I asked a clinic receptionist to schedule bloodwork she acted like she was going to call cops
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>>40821617
privatemdlabs my nigga

not that getting regular bloods would be illegal in any way or form but some indeed get their panties in a bunch over it.
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>>40821617
Pharmacies are more willing to give you specific gauge volume and length syringes and needles if you ask compared to someone who walks in and asks for "rigs" like a heroin addict. Don't act like you're doing something wrong because you're really not.
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Muscleman: A Surprising

Case of Shrinkage

Frank was an all-around athlete in high school. He played football in the fall, wrestled during the winter, and was a

sprinter on the track team during the spring. After graduation, Frank attended State University to study American

history. In order to focus on his studies, he decided not to participate in team sports. However, he worked out at the

gym almost every day and became interested in bodybuilding. Although Frank had a muscular body and was very

strong, his muscles weren’t as large as most body builders who were of similar height.

Frank became friends with several students who had experience competing in body-building events. He asked them
for some training advice and all of them agreed that anabolic steroids were the only way Frank could build the muscle
mass required for competition. One of his friends off ered to get the steroids and show him how to use them. Frank
agreed and began administering himself injections of trenbolone acetate. Although he was convinced that the drug
would help him build muscle mass, he was unaware of the fact that trenbolone is a synthetic steroid that is used
in animal agriculture to increase muscle growth in livestock. It is typically administered as an ester derivative (e.g.,
trenbolone acetate).
Th e chemical structure of trenbolone is similar to that of testosterone, the naturally occurring hormone that is
produced by the testicles. Trenbolone acts in the same way that testosterone acts, but the esterifi ed form of the
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>>40821795


hormone is approximately three times more potent than the naturally occurring hormone; that is, three times more testosterone is required to produce the same eff ects as a particular amount of trenbolone acetate.
Because Frank was an avid weight lifter and worked out for at least 60
minutes each day, he experienced an increase in strength and larger
muscles within two months. Although he was very pleased with the
development of his physique, he became quite alarmed about one side
eff ect of the anabolic steroid; that is, his testicles had shrunk to about
25% of their original size.
At the time Frank became interested in body building he was taking
a course in human anatomy and physiology. He fi rst noticed his
testicular atrophy when the class began studying the reproductive
system. Frank soon learned that testosterone is necessary for the
testicles to produce sperm, the male gametes. It is also responsible
for maintaining masculine patterns of body hair and muscle and
fat distribution. His textbook provided useful information about
regulation of the testicles.


Th e regulation of testosterone production and release from the

testicles involves a part of the brain known as the hypothalamus

as well as the anterior pituitary gland. Th e hypothalamus produces

gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH), a hormone that acts
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>>40821804
on the anterior pituitary gland to stimulate release of luteinizing
hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH).
Th ese two pituitary hormones then act on two types of
testicular cells to stimulate synthesis and secretion of
testosterone. LH aff ects the testicles in two ways. First, it is
required to maintain both the number and size of Leydig
cells, testicular cells that produce testosterone. Second,
it stimulates the biosynthetic pathways responsible for
testosterone synthesis. FSH acts primarily on the Sertoli
cells, nurse cells that provide support for spermatogenesis
(the production of sperm). Overproduction of testosterone is
prevented by a negative feedback loop whereby testosterone
acts on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to suppress
release of GnRH as well as LH and FSH, respectively.
Th e more Frank learned about the male reproductive system,
the more motivated he was to research the use and side
eff ects of anabolic steroids. He soon began to understand
the biological mechanism responsible for his condition. In
addition, he learned about other side eff ects associated with
the use of this type of drug.

> conclusion: TRY PCT FAGGOT BEFORE YOU SPREAD DISINFO IN SCHOOLS
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>>40821795
>>40821804
>>40821810
your post formatting gave me AIDS. good read though, shame it's run of the mill (((steroids))) scaremongering lel
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>>40821963
Its meant to deter high school athletes and make their girlfriends dump them if they touch roids, so yeah, its atrocious scaremongering
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beard is coming slowly, face still pretty

had to sttop monix for weeks, because i had shitty side effects, reduced now to once a day
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Can somebody give me a quick rundown on dosing the AI? Want to use arimidex. and the Nolva is just 4 weeks right?
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>>40822018
stop doing that face
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>took prohormones for a while
>lifts all dropped once I stopped taking them
>lethargic and tired mess
>feel less than myself
>pimples and general greasy feeling
>cycle
>frontload a G over 5 days
>600mg weekly week 2 forward
>pimples disappearing
>motivated
>focused
>feeling better
>slight test flu

Saving up for a trip in a few months gonna reel in some qts
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>>40822018
Why do you always have that look on your face, do you never smile?
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>>40822034
>that guy using prop on his first cycle
>and eq
smH

350 test is kinda low, probably 0.25mg eod if you even need any adex at all
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>>40822052
u mad because that will face will rape your gf ON SIGHT

>>40822060
you ever seen a alpha male smile. Smiling is for faggot and for people that are HAPPY

I AM NEVER HAPPYU
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>>40822104
>I AM NEVER HAPPYU
That explains some things.
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>>40821388
For cutting, while lifting everyday full body with focus on strength::
1. 100mg Anadrol
2. 75mg Anadrol + 25mg M-DHT (PWO)
3. 50mg Anadrol + 20mg M-DHT (A.M) + 30mg (PWO)

The split in the third option is to extend the cosmetic effects throughout the day (Winstrol-like)

What would you guys choose?
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>>40822034
>first cycle
>propionate + undeclynate
>'viles'
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>>40822018
Congrats mate. You'll be hairy lumberjack mode in no time.
>>40822052
I think he just has resting duck face.
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>>40822104

>you are now seeing the double bicep
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>>40822287
>Pizza on her ass that was likely sitting on a shared toilet recently

Just, no. That's fucking gross unless she just came out of the shower.
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>>40822386
>that guy who doesn't eat ass
what are you doing here?
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>>40822386
autism
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>>40822386
>unless she just came out of the shower.
Obviously. It's post sex pizza time.
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>>40822469
I eat ass but only if that shit is clean. So freshly showered and enema'd.

>>40822533
guilty of the assburgers

>>40822548
hopefully thats the case
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>>40822611
>Hey baby go shower and enema for me im gonna eat that ass
Guaranteed virgin
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>>40822650
nonsense, ladies love my fedora and anime interests
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>eating ass

Absolutely convinced you lads are shitposting and some idiots took it seriously.

>tren enthanate
Useless?
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>>40822018

that practiced pose. Did you take like 500 selfies with different squinty faces and decided that was the best one?
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>>40822681
Some dudes love it, never quite saw the appeal myself. And I'm literally on tren e right now.
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>>40821430

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEciZBKf9zk
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>>40822104

You're not actually handsome, if you have to practice a fucking facial pose to look good enough for your selfies
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>>40822681
>shitposting
I hope so. Although I'm pretty sure some aren't.

She goes for enjoying thier gf's strap on.
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Made gf cry this morning because arguing
Feels bad friendos

She wants to try couples counseling, what the fuck kind of upper class shit is this? I think it's just a long con to get me on medications baka
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>>40822912
>gf
>couples counseling
Better pack it up now
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>>40822912
Jeez. What were you guys arguing about? Not good that you're already getting into this shit with her.
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>>40822940
>>40822951
Muh mental health. I get manic episodes which I love but I imagine could be interpreted as concerning for her.

I've tried tons of meds from xanax to seroquel and gabapentin to suboxobe to risperdal. All of them just made me weirder.
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>>40822965
I was basically just being a dick and talking about breaking up and she was saying we can find a way not to
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>>40822983
>I was basically just being a dick and talking about breaking up
yeah maybe you really do need to be on meds and you don't just have an "outgoing personality"

if you really liked her as much as you say you do you wouldn't hurt her like that m8. you do it involuntarily because you have issues.

couples counseling is gay though, I'm pretty sure you already know the issues and just don't want to deal with them. you're gonna start cheating again in like two weeks
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>>40822912
There's nothing wrong with medication m8

You seem like you're in denial

Fuck off with the roid rage, there's literally no reason EVER to yell at your gf and make her cry you fucking dick
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>>40822965
You should make an effort to improve your mental health if you truly love her and want her to be there for you.

I don't know if your insurance covers basic counciling with a psychologist but maybe find one you like and see if they can help you with cognitive behavioral therapy instead of medicines.
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>tfw can take 1.6g of test ez np no bloat nothing
>tfw even 200-300mg tren gives me brown lactation on my right nipple even with prami, caber, dangerous doses of b6 and lots of letro yet I don't suffer from trensomnia or most tren side effects (no bloat either, it ain't nandrolone)

I hate being so nor-19 sensitive, fuck sake.

At least I'm also lucky enough not to shed/thin hair on DHT derivatives also/
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>>40821388
i can imagine how zyzz was fuckin this bitch

>yeah brah suk that dick prah
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>>40823152
were you squeezing your nip? I only notice it then and im on 1.2g of tren e

all of you ancillaries pharma? I hope that b6 is the p5p version otherwise you're going to get neuropathy.
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yo can the ventro glute take 3 milliliter injections?
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>>40823234
yes
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>>40823234
mine do every 3 days, yo
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>>40822983
Threats like that can be construed as emotionally abusive especially if it's flipkant or said on a capacity to motivate her to your perspective; it's not too dissimilar from gas lighting.

Here's a thought; if you like your life with her, compromise. If not, walk.
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people who pin ed, what sites do you rotate between?
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>>40823267
ill be on a every other day cicle

will it be ok to pump 3 ml on monday and then another 3 on friday?
the drugs are 2 ml of test-p and 1 ml on mast
does the same apply to the normal glute?
ive never done every other day injections before :(
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Freaking out that I have an abscess from leaked tren on my left delf. All while knowing i have no s/s of infection or heat to the injection site. I find that i gotta consciously remind myself that I am trippin.

> Week 5, 100mg daily with trt test e and asin
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>>40823292
>emotionally abusive
it is honestly.

>>40823305
why the fuck are you running 2ml of test p which I assume is 100mg/ml? Get longer estered drugs like enanthates and pin e3d

>>40823316
leaked subq more than likely, it hurts and may turn red but it'll go away. I'd only be concerned if it swelled up and started to spread. 100mg ED of test e isn't trt though.
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>>40823359
The 100mg was tren ace. Test e is at 250mg/wk. To be honest, i am just tripping.
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>>40823386
Ah okay. Yeah you should be fine just keep an eye on it but don't obsess because then you'll think something's wrong when it isn't.
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>>40823359
I just did test-e for 8 weeks, im gonna bridge for 4 then jump on test-p + mast+ winnie for cutting
test-p works a little better for that purpose.

do you know the answer for my previous question?
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>>40823399
>little better for that purpose
Says who? Test is test as long as you achieve the same serum concentrations.

Pin VGs whenever they fall into rotation but you should wait atleast 3 days before using a site again especially with propionate esters because they're going to hurt some.
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>>40823399
>bridge
>test p is better for cutting
what shitty normie brosciencey steroids forum did you crawl out of
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>>40823438
Sounds like AM or meso
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>>40823398
It's like every thought i have is heightened, like I get anxious a little faster than usual I'm noticing. And over analytical of every pin these days. You're right not to obsess. Like I'm keeping a daily log/journal through the cycle just to help monitor shit lol
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>>40823455
>Like I'm keeping a daily log/journal through the cycle just to help monitor shit lol
I don't even know what week I'm on
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>>40822104
Why no happy
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>>40823510
Mast neber happy. He half to lib with mooslims constantly trying to kill his countrymen and he frustrated
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>>40823436
most material ive read got me under the impression that short ester tests will work better for cutting purposes since water retention and aromatization will be lower, is that wrong? plus youre gonna be pumping mast and winnie every 2nd day anyways
im thinking about rotating it like this
monday - right glute and shoulder(1 ml winnie on shoulder)

wednesday - left glute and shoudler

friday - both ventral glutes(3 ml on one and winnie on the other)

sunday - ill have to self pin so ill do it on the lateral of my thighs


do you think that works?
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>>40823359
I'd say mean shit like that to my ex in the heat of the argument. Mean things said literally just to break her down because I had no other assault other than dismantling her feelings, which were already broken.

If you have to attack your partner like that, leave.
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>>40823023
>>40823046
>>40823292
>>40823359
Thanks fellas gonna give therapy a go, and stay open minded to meds.
Gf is worth it and I don't always understand what I'm doing. I don't have a lot of places to get feedback besides here maybe therapy is gonna be good.
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>>40823592
Maybe because I was raised by a single mother who had dealt with shit like that prior to getting divorced but I would never let myself do that to a girl I loved. I'd feel like a complete shitbag if I had to resort to that or physically threatening them, probably neck myself at that point because I know I am and we all can be better than that.

>>40823561
1. Why the fuck did you get injectable winny?
2. In my opinion there is little to no difference for cutting, aromatization will be dependant on blood serum levels not the ester.
3. You're pinning 200mg of test p EOD?
4. That's a shitshow in all honesty.

>>40823648
Be open to her and let her know you're going, maybe she needs some too just to help with stress and whatnot. I was on psychiatric meds when I was younger but they never did shit for me except make my jerkoff sessions last like 2 hours because I couldn't cum. Fuck those meds in general.
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>>40823648
That's a good idea. Her actions and recommendation for therapy are her way of communicating that she's willing to work with you to preserve the relationship; it's literally doing what she can for you. Meet her dude.
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>>40823692
>Fuck those meds in general.
Plus they typically just prescribe more meds to mask other side effects so if at all possible I'd stay away from them but if you feel that they will help maybe give them a try.
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>>40823692
I'd never dealt with emotional abuse before.
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So I got a definite gyno flare-up that worsened pretty much overnight, despite upping Asin and adding Nolva (I know the Nolva will take awhile). Week 6 of cycle.

So I'm thinking of grabbing Letro now. Will I need to drop the Asin and use Letro as my AI instead? And UGL or just shill out for the parhma sites?
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>>40823773
Are you taking asin with a full fatty meal? If not It won't be very effective. Also get pharma ralox, just nuking your estrogen with letro isn't a good way to deal with gyno.
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>>40823926
I take it with fat, I'm only doing 6.25 EoD but I haven't had any other high estro symptoms, just the gyno, and I know I'm susceptible to gyno. Was worried about crashing the estro since I did that like week 3

I'll grab the ralox. What kind of dosage is recommended I'm only familiar with Nolva and Asin
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>>40823185
>that b6 is the p5p version otherwise you're going to get neuropathy.
Explain this like I am 5 years old please. I mean mine IS p5p incidentally but holy shit wat.
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>>40824002
60mg in the morning and at night if usually suggested but it takes months to see results.
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How do online sources not get caught?

It looks insanely easy to get caught desu
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>>40824047
I wont be able to get it for another week cause I'll be out of time, so Ill have to do 40/day Nolva to start, then reevaluate then

What exactly is the deciding factor for those who want to use Letro over a SERM? Is it mainly for pre-pubertal? I had pre-pubertal but I had gyno surgery but of course they didnt remove the fucking glands.
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>>40823692
i dont have a good source for orals, i do know the injectable is the real deal though so i went with it.
Yes ill be doing 200mg eod.
do you mean the muscle division for pin ina shitshow?
that way ill be injecting only once per week in each muscle, the muscle division for the shots are my biggest concern right now.
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>>40824044
Vitamin B6 toxicity produces a sensory ataxia, areflexia, and impaired cutaneous sensation. Patients often complain of burning or paresthesias. Electrodiagnostic testing usually shows a sensory neuronopathy, but with severe toxicity motor nerves can be affected as well[33]. Symptoms of toxicity can be seen with doses as low as 100 mg per day[34].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4199287/
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>>40824059
Tor, Anonymous email servers and customers who use the same, bitcoin, cash in mail, throwaway emails for emt, fake mailing addresses and names

It's way easier to get caught in person m8
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>>40824071
Jesus. Never knew. I mean, that toxicity was an issue yes, but not the whole extent of it. So using p5p should be fine, or is there a funky level too, but just high enough not to care for the common meathead (like me)?
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>>40824071
>like 5 years old
>cites a paragraph of medical terms
he some kinda pajeet prodigy
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>>40824088
Fair enough, seems like a pretty lucrative business if you don't get caught, especially with the amount you can charge for gear in australia compared to what it actually costs to make kek
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>>40824059

nobody gives a shit until you start moving enough that you're ordering a dozen keys of raws quarterly
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>>40824071
>read the whole thing
>harrowing paranoia of lacking one of them immediately
brb worrying about inane shit for days
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is it possible that DNP gives a lingering, residual effect?

or am I just dumping all the water I've been hoarding
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>>40824272
The half life is like what 2-3 days? So yeah it's not out of your system completely for 5 times the half life
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>>40824272
>>40824305
Also if you just got off then yes you are losing a lot of water weight as well
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>>40824305
it's been 2-3 days since my last dose
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>>40824215
Fggt
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>>40824272
>>40824344

>what is the loss of dnp water retention and accompanying glycogen supercompensation for $500

how the fuck do you people use shit and have absolutely no idea about basic bitch shit like this

>>40824349

sup fuckface, about to go lift double your bench

:^)
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>>40824394
What are you stats on squat/bench/deadlift/ohp?
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How to get bloods in NY?
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>>40824394
>will it kill me
>yes -don't do it
>no -give it a go

it's how I prioritize
trivial shit like this is simply curiosity
if you're going to be a bitch about it, don't respond
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>>40824394
>how the fuck do you people use shit and have absolutely no idea about basic bitch shit like this
check the dnp general (if someone opens one) now and then, you would be surprised how darwin award worthy some kids are when it comes to >le ebin magic fatloss pill :DDD
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Can I get a source?
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Guys my beard is just total shit, incomplete and weak.

How many cycles/time to have something like pic ???
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>>40824523
get beard transplant instead
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>>40824523
Use minoxidil, works like a charm, you just have to use it consistently for a few months and you keep all the beard gains
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>>40824559
If I do this + gear would it get even better ?
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>>40824523
>>40824574
beard gains due to roids are a meme.
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>>40824523
Grow it out for a year (looking like shit throughout, not slaying any pussy because of it), trim outliers every week, apply castor and rosemary oil every day. Get it trimmed professionally by a barber after said year, realize you now have a cool albeit hella pubic looking beard but the rest of your dyel babyface does not fit it and makes you look like a hipster untermensch, and shave it off again while crying. Not even projecting, I just know what I am talking about.

Pinning highly androgenic compounds might help in the long run but most of it is time, age and genetics, so good luck.

>inb4 minox for facial hair
kys before the sides do, not even reading along if someone else suggests it because they will
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>>40824606

I plan, for different reasons, to do at least 3 cycles.
The point here is simple, I do minoxidil now or do it later WITH gear to maximize it.

Btw, beard gains with gear ain't meme look it up.
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>>40824665
I'm telling you as someone who's been on gear for years that it's a meme.

look at masT >>40822018 too
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>>40820577 :’D
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I really don't want to talk about counter strike source too, glad we all agree.

Where can I get steroids though?
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>>40824713
>1ml cypo monday, 25iu hgh, mic + B12 injection 3x a week
mild kek
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Got a biopsy and they looked at it under a microscope right there before sending it to a lab

No enlargement of the acinar cells so it's not from the vomitting bullshit

Just inflammation. No cancer or lymphoma or anything. Only inflammation

So I'm starting corticosteroids for 10 days

Going to be butthurt as fuck when i come off them unless they help permanently
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>>40824428

haven't tested anything in almost 3 months, mid-5/low-mid 4/mid-6, haven't done strict or seated ohp in a while but btn push press is like 275 for a triple

>>40824456

so you're functionally retarded, got it

>>40824713
>>40824754

what in the actual fuck

>25iu hgh

yeah bullshit

>>40824800

hopefully you manage to not fail at something when (if) you muster up the balls to chlorinate your section of the gene pool
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>>40824394
>implying even double my bench is impressive
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>>40824856
you do know what thread you're in?
I'm par for the course
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>>40824856
didnt link it for the hgh but the whole thread. its a delightful clusterfuck. but yeah, gimme dem 25iu with trt test pls
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>>40823549
I gotta live with all these nogs nips browns and rugwhisperers too, i'm pretty happy. Just try to enjoy what u got and fight what you're against without it pulling your head down under
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Does anyone care about developing left ventricule hypertrophy? I'm kind of worried about it. Is doing intense cardio on cycle a bad idea?
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>>40824856
What numbers have you actually lifted, and what are your plans for when you test?
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>>40824991
HIIT might not be a great idea but LISS is very good. Just watch your blood pressure and HCT and you'll probably be fine.
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How long does it take for sides to start on Tren A? Would about a week be enough to start ramping up dose or should I wait longer?

Basically when do I start "feeling it"? Only ran Enth based stuff before
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>>40825244
You should probably feel it within a week, definitely within two weeks. Check out steroidcalc and see when you hit peak levels with your dose and frequency.
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>>40825265
>Check out steroidcalc

I use steroidcalc for other stuff but Ace reaches peak after like a day, surely it would take longer than that for any mental/physical side effects to occur.
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>>40824864

I thought you were in the 3s at least

>>40825041

been working on mobility and cues with squats more than anything heavy, especially while I was cutting, just to head off any potential future problems

495/405/605 at the tail end of the cut like a month ago, so I'm not really worried that I lost much of anything at all

testing will probably be a mock meet when I've got a day to go chill at the baller pl gym like an hour away, do the whole s/b/d sequence, planning on doing state uspa when I can crack the records with my openers probably at the end of the year when a meet comes up

>>40825244

basing shit on "feel" is fucking retarded, that being said this guy's >>40825265 timeline is pretty much what you'll expect
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>>40825290
Look at the buildup, not the individual peaks
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>>40825319
Incline 325
But I usually don't go heavy since I don't wanna get too big and bulky :)
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I never get a good pump in my back, what exercises should I do that can isolate it the best that will let me feel it afterwards?
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>>40825498
i personally get sick af pumps from any rowing exercise, aslong as you do em correctly
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>>40825498
wide (possibly snatch) thumbless grip for some of your rowing and pulling
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>>40825498
blast lots of sdrol
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>>40825498
What are you doing for back now?
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>>40825483
Serious question, how do people go into the gym and never go heavy, yet enjoy it?

I mean I get that you get a pump, but I can literally get a sick pump with doing 10 set of 3 alone on 1 of the big 3, and then doing fluff isolation work after to finish it off and get a skin splitting pump

What gives? are people just pussies or something
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>>40825624
Well I was previously doing chinups, behind the neck lat pulldowns, regular pulldowns, and barbell rows.
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>>40825679
>how do people go into the gym and never go heavy
I've never seen anyone not go heavy, outside of gym bunnies. I think ego lifting is more common then exclusively low weight stuff.

>>40825720
I'd try cable and db rows. If that doesn't work maybe mess with your rep range.
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>>40825679
because they dont enjoy it. atleast i dont.
I personally go to the gym to look like a shredded sik kunt. Lifting, out of all sports, would be the last thing i would choose if i wasnt so thirsty for dem asthetics.

I seriously think lifting is boring. Being jacked is fun, lifting is not
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>>40825757
This is actually true, lifting heavy is fun and common, but the most common mistake is retards going too heavy too often and shortchanging their strength and size gains, and opening themselves up for injury too

>>40825767
Fair enough, I can respect that
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>>40825679
I'm just a pussy
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>>40825876
Wow kys pussy bitch
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>>40825904
No u
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>>40825861

I think its a tradeoff of strength to size that ends with injury or instability. You will make size gains on a strength routine but not as muh as a hypertrophy/cardio rep range can be.

Ive been doing strength for a while now and just moved to higher rep ranges for everything noncompound. The one thing I noticed was I can at least move heavy weight more times than say someone who only does 3x10 every time.
>>
Odds of being able to get away without an AI on 400mg a week? Only got Adex no Asin, or just use Adex after 3rd pin .5g EOD and don't think about it?
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So i was reading a post about frontloding Test E so it reaches peak levels right away, would the same work for faster acting compounds? If someone took extra Tren A for their first couple days would the effects be apparent faster?

>inb4 someone pins like 300mg day one
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Does HCG lower ejaculate volume?
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>>40826244
no, the opposite
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>>40826224
very very small.
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>>40826360
What's normal? I can get away with 500 test E + 500 EQ with no AI/SERM.
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12.5mg asin e3d crashes my estro. Shit is fucking strong
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>>40826274
I've been taking propecia for 4 days, is that a long enough time for it to decrease my ejaculate volume?
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>>40826399
thats really hard to say, but i hear "12.5mg on pin days" alot.

Asin that is, no idea about adex
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>>40826417
That's what my doc told me
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>>40822018
Bruh aren't you Arab how the fuck do you not have a beard.

إلّا طحين
>tfw I had a beard before I started gear
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>>40822018
... Are you part Ayyyyy-rab masT?
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>>40826417
wew, I've still got aromasin left over from my first cycle. Tried splitting the pill down to ~2mg and still crashed e2. No idea what that says about my physiology, had a whole raft of blood tests on the NHS a few years ago and they didn't say there was anything up with my oestrogen.
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>>40826409
no

your e2 is too high.
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>>40826448
tremendous kek
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>>40826480
I couldn't get E2/ostridol tests on the NHS, doc just said "huh we don't usually test for that" when I went in demanding all male fertility type tests, I think he suspected I intended to use roids but didn't know enough to stick know to test me e2.

Don't have a baseline value because of it, but I always showed symptoms of low E2 and it was a big reason I started to use.
>>
TEST TREN DECA EQ ADROL DBOL PSYCH MEDS

2017 SUMMER STACK CMON
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>>40826607
>psych meds
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>>40826448
Lol
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>>40826607
>still going on about tren when you were happy to be on a comfy stack the other day

I don't think tren will help your relationship issues either m8
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>>40826607
You're playing with fire, I don't know anyone that has ever been helped by taking these meds. All the best to you in any case.
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>>40826224
Odds of being able to get by are probably high to medium depending on tolerance. I'm using adex right now and on E3D had a bit of an estrogen drop the other day so I'm doing E4D now. Thats 600mg weekly Test E and adex for reference
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>>40826635
I'm constantly thinking about tweaking what I'm taking it's like a compulsion, I really don't understand it

Only solution is to take everything
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need opinion.
currently in in law enforcement.
thinking about flying to France and showing up at the foreign legions headquarters.

good or bad idea?
I want excitement
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>>40826709
>it's like a compulsion, I really don't understand it
>has BPD
well
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>>40826721
Tactical Medic in Canada here. I don't think it's a good idea had a cousin in FL (family is from Morocco) and he never came back and we found out a few years later he was killed in Congo
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>>40826709
>I'm constantly thinking about tweaking what I'm taking

You need to practice exercising self-control; catch yourself when you have these thoughts and say no to them.

>>40826817
>Morocco

You have to go back.
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>>40826817

Isnt there a loophole where combatants in FL arent technically military deaths so its not formally announced? Kind of like contractors not counting towards friendly combatants killed
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>>40826856
I don't know too much about that. Only reason we found out is when we visited family in France.

>>40826849
I'm going to fuck you in the ass now and if you shit on my dick I will kill you.
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>>40826883
Come at me nog
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>>40826817
yea I know it's a definite risk, but it sounds exciting. also 5 years in the fl and I can get any pmc job I want, which will also be exciting.
as long as I don't die anyway.
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I've noticed high e2 symptoms, very faint but definitely there.

I started my first cycle 2 weeks ago. I did not take any AI at first because I figured testosterone enanthate takes a while to build in your system when you first start the cycle and I didn't want to crash my e2. I took my first dose of AI, which is a single 25 mg aromasin pill, 2 days ago. However, I did not take it with a fatty meal because I didn't know that I was supposed to do that. I've noticed the high e2 symptoms within the past 1 or 2 days.

Should I take a half of aromasin again right now with a fatty meal? Or should I wait it out and see what happens?
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>>40827120
Actually, I now think that I may have LOW estrogen. I just read that some of my symptoms can be shared between both. It would make sense that I started experiencing my symptoms only after taking a whole 25 mg of aromasin. Even with crappy absorption due to not eating it with a fatty meal, it still crashed my E2? Damn, this stuff is powerful.

I need to buy a pill splitter
>>
"It seems like the guys that were naturally big/husky in gradeschool, get gyno issues, and the guys that were skinny string-beans don’t. I was a skinny kid, and I’ve never had gyno issues even with way out of range, high E." - Quote from steroid information forum

Do you think this is true, /fraud/? Unfortunately we don't have any scientists studying this crap so we have to go by personal anecdotes
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>>40827143
You're gonna have to actually tell us what those symptoms are if you want advice.
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>>40827181
insomnia, small acne breakout when I never had such problems before, lowered ejaculate volume as if I am dehydrated
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>>40827177
no, it's absolute nonsense
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I have low T but my doctor wont help

I'm only 22 and don't want to hope on injections since that means I'll be on them for life

Would taking 25mg of Clomid a day be viable, I've read people have double their test taking only clomid
>>
Went to multiple pharmacies and they wouldn't sell me needles. Fucking faggots. At least I bought condoms to fuck womenz.

Online it is.
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>>40827250
Don't
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>>40826709

get your rich gf to buy the like 15g of trest deca off of me

>>40826721

you're a fucking idiot, ffl is the worst possible thing you could pick
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>>40827320
why
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>>40827363
oh. ok :(
you too.
>>
is it a waste to only do compound exercises, barbell lifts and pull/chinups on a cycle?
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>>40826928
Np blahino
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>>40827696
Is that quote straight out of the Koran?
>>
How much Arimidex should I be taking for a first cycle?

Doing 400 test e/600 eq a week
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>>40827363
Trest is still on my list of potential meme compounds

Potential meme compounds;
Trest
DHB
Bold cyp

Confirmed meme compounds;
Proviron
Masteron
Tbol
Clen
T3

Meme excercises;
Barbell rows
Deadlifts
Any oly movement
Muscle ups
>>
This is the sort of shit that destroys civilizations
Non-whites coming in, taking steroids, having plastic surgery, telling people they are "italian", bastardizing the genetics of our countries

I dnno
People think the first world just happened by magic, as if there wasn't a requirement of strictly preventing race mixing
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>>40828197
>Trest
>DHB

what a coincidence...

>Meme excercises;
>Barbell rows
>Deadlifts

1v1 me irl

actually just check your email and see if you still think they're a meme

>>40828217

someone get a plumber over to /pol/
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>>40828254
Looking good dude serious

However,
>implying your opinions hold any power in the land of the bloat king
My dominion is vast
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>>40828254
Is the trest oral you have?
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>>40828365

pls, gimme two hours at a chinese buffet and we'll see who the bloat king is

that's still just 250 test/400 mast btw

>>40828559

what? fuck no, it's decanoate
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>>40828710
I thought injectable trest was pretty much only available in prop

huh
>>
Yo cheaters, will (1 CC (DS) Syringe with 25 G X 5/8" Needle) these be okay for universal injections?

>Quads, delts, glutes, and drawing?
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>>40828710
>runs mast
>does deadlifts

The Lord of the Memes
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>>40828877
no
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>>40828877
i'll get flamed for this but ive pinned quads for 2 cycles with 5/8 and it has worked fine but id prefer 1inchers now
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>>40828893
I got one inch for u rite here bb
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>>40828913
:^)
>>
why do roiders and natties both eat at +500

do natties only gain like 1lb of muscle per month and 3lbs of fat?
>>
>>40828883
>>40828893

Hmm, could I use 20g 1" to draw? I'm also trying to find a universal gauge for injections.
>>
>>40827717
I don't know I'm Jewish
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>>40828877
If probaly grab 1 inch to be honest.
I pinned glutes fine with 5/8, but everyone's different.
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>>40829055
Them Jews is bad but them nazis is worse

>sweatbeadpepe.png
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>>40829048
Do you not have a needle exchange in your country?
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>>40829086
I'm actually a Moroccan jew though
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>>40829103
I do, but I prefer doing everything online so I can keep my spaghetti in my pockets
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>>40829113
I'm just playing I'm shia but not strict tbqf I'm pretty westernized. It's the Sunnis you have got to worry about.
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>>40829113
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>>40829117
You don't have to give a real name. I have just about every g syringe in 1 inch to inch and a half along with 2 cases of 18g drawing tips and I didn't pay a cent.
>>
>>40829048
20g is fine yeah. don't go too big or you risk fucking up the rubber stopper

for universal injections 25g 1" or 1.5" is goat
>>
>>40829141
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>>40829168
Yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure my autismo would make me say McLovin or some shit. My roommate got rejected trying to buy pins from two seperate places locally. Bitch lady was like "I know what your going to do with them so I'm not selling them too you."

>>40829172
Thanks senpai, I'm gonna get some 25g 1" 100ct for dat dere universal injection
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I posted here a few weeks ago. I was the hobo anon who was going to run a cycle. Everyone told me that due to my circumstances it was a mistake because of I was fat, and I had a shit diet, and cause I was homeless.

This was 2 1/2 weeks ago.
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>>40829217
and? I hope you took the advice.
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>>40829217
this is now.

Am I good to go?
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>>40829217
>>40829234
>Iseenochanges.jpeg
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>>40829234
I realized an image in a similar pose would probably be much more useful. But yeah, I've lost a shit load of fat, much improved my diet, and upped the cardio.

Disregard the junk food in the back, I'm at my friend's pad, none of it is mine.
>>
>>40829217
Why you homeless duder? What is your situation exactly?
>>
>>40829287
In college, no financial aid. Can't afford rent etc.
>>
Is it worth having kids

I can't decide if I want a dozen kids or 0 and live a life of a bachelor bodybuilder like Andreas. Although I doubt I'd achieve his level.
>>
I am a God at fingering girls

teach me how to give oral properly
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>>40829299
Job > college
Especially if you have nowhere to stay. How are you affording tuition without aid?
How do you afford a gym? Food? How would you even buy the steroids?
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>>40829314
I couldn't say. I've got baby fever pretty bad though. Want to breed all the women.
>>40829322
Do what you do with your fingers, but with your mouth.
>>
>>40829278
i mean, how much fat can you really lose in 2 weeks dude?

besides, sounds like you want us to tell you what you want to hear.
>>
>>40829378
Furthermore, if he's on a rocket ship he's probably at a caloric surplus. He's not gonna lose any fat.
>>
>>40829378
I lost at least 10 lbs according to the scale. FFS just look at the pictures dude. I mean, yeah I definitely feel that I'm ready to run the cycle, but I still am looking for feedback.

>>40829332
I literally have one quarter left of engineering. I already have the steroids. I bought them a while ago. I do work part time. I have a gym membership because that's where I shower. My aid covers tuition alone, but nothing else. I'm on food stamps, which is how I eat. To improve my diet, I've been exclusively eating at whole foods and other bougie grocery store chains.
>>
>>40829403
>>40829378
Let me help you guys out a bit here.

Before: >>40829217
After: >>40829278
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>>40829404
God emperor trump will put an end to parasites like you
>>
>>40824063
letro is just a more effective/intense AI. it won't get rid of your existing gyno.
>>
>>40829417
>One quarter left of engineering
>Working
>parasite

Pick one faggot
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>>40829413
don't be a cunt mate.

>I lost at least 10 lbs according to the scale.
>FFS just look at the pictures dude.
>I mean, yeah I definitely feel that I'm ready to run the cycle

sounds like you can't even convince yourself.

you're still bloody 20% bf, homeless and regardless of what we tell you, probably going to run a fucking cycle
>>
>>40829442
yeah I'm definitely not 20% buddy
>>
>>40829278
I think you have a decent base under that but you're definitely still overweight.

hopping on won't kill you but you will waste a lot of your cycle because you won't be able to bulk as much. also, you will have to be on top of your ai

you should definitely lose more weight, but I doubt you will, so godspeed. you will get fat and will have to lose even more weight than you do now
>>
>>40829450
Look at yourself retard
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>>40829450
Go get yourself scanned right now you fat piece of shit. You're spilling out all over the place.

Don't you ever reply to me on my comfy steroid blog again.
>>
>>40829473
>Don't you ever reply to me on my comfy steroid blog again.
Lol'd
>>
>>40829450
You've got your answer here, you got the hivemind consensus, make your own mind now and save yourself from further flaming and said flames cluttering the thread.

Best of luck to you.
>>
ok guys so I ran an 8wk cycle of ostarine at 15mg ED.

I got a little gyno from it, it's been 3-4 wks and I still have it.

Pretty sure I can reverse this with ralox, but do I need to run an A.I on ralox at all?

Some forums think so, some don't.

What is the general consensus?
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what's wrong with a clomid only cycle to treat low T
>>
ok guys so I ran an 8wk cycle of ostarine at 15mg ED.

I got a little gyno from it, it's been 3-4 wks and I still have it.

Pretty sure I can reverse this with ralox, but do I need to run an A.I on ralox at all?

Some forums think so, some don't.

please help
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>>40829525
>>40829550

>reversing gyno

that's a myth.
>>
>>40829535
>>40829525
>>40829550

kill yourself
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>>40829465
>>40829467
>>40829473
If you guys guys think I'm "overweight" or at 20% body fat, you're seriously deluded. But hey here's a better picture not using my shit webcam
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>>40829562
nice your love handles are so big you cant even hide them completely with your pants

>dat stomach pouch and love handles
>"wow if you think i'm overweight you're deluded!!! i need to bulk!!!"
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>>40829556
Don't bully
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>>40829525
>>40829550
wew don't know how that happened

>>40829554
Pubertal gyno yes but I'm talking about sarm induced gyno, I've read somewhere it's reversable

>>40829556
not the same guy nerd
>>
>>40829573
good luck with your body dysmorphia senpai
>>
>>40829562

Y-you roid?
>>
>>40829592
not yet
>>
>>40829591
>fat homeless loser who lives in his fucking car wants to do steroids
>literally everyone telling him he is clearly too fat
>but we are the ones with dysmorphia
>>
>>40829591
lol at the fat fuck in denial telling others they have bdd
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>>40829608
>>40829612
yeah pretty much
>>
>>40829562
I SAID DO NOT FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN


YOU FAT DUMB HOMELESS MOTHERFUCKER

YOU ARE 20%

JUST ACCEPT IT.

YOU ARE A FAT MANLET WHO SHOULD BE SORTING HIS SHIT FUCKING LIFE OUT BEFORE ROIDING

ITS CALLED PUTTING YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER YOU DUMB CUNT

YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO IMPLY THE HUMBLE ANONS OF THIS BOARD ARE DELUSIONAL

WHEN YOU ARE BEGGING FOR OUR APPROVAL FOR YOU TO START CYCLING TEST ON A BULK

NO YOU FAT CUNT

NO.

NOT APPROVED.

FUCK OFF
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>>40829623
do you see lover handles and a giant ass gut on the 15% guy in that picture? or is it on the 20%?
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>>40829644
>>40829473
kekked
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>>40829644
I gotta stay in school and finish my degree. Then get a job. There's not much to sort out friend.

>>40829646
lol
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>>40829662
>homeless
>fat
>insistent on cycling hormones to build muscle
>4chan user
>general fucking idiot

Yeah you're a clean slate for sure. Go ahead and run that cycle mate, you got me.
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Homeless guy is a good example of why literally no real advice is given on fraud anymore
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>>40829707
>>40829707
You're a 4chan user. You're also posting on the thread that is devoted to cycling hormones to building muscle. I'm not fat. I'm definitely not cut or sub 10% bf, but to call me fat is deluded.

I am also definitely not an idiot, considering I'm completing two STEM degrees while in my current situation.

Also, I don't see how being born poor and having to rely on financial aid to be in college, and then having that financial aid cut, is in any way my own fault, or in any way something for which I should be ashamed. But we're just running around in circles here. You're clearly upset, and that's ok anon, but I think I'm going to remove myself from this enriching exchange.
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>>40829763
>but to call me fat is deluded.

>>40829623

>>40829646

lol. reverse body dysmorphia
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Ew
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>>40829623

the 10 and 15 are completely fucked, you could literally swap them back and forth and most people wouldn't blink

hence why the gold standard is dexa

>>40829753

nah not really

it's the consequence of some of you dumb motherfuckers propping up rat-faced future (if not current) rapist tweakers as your idiot kings, that sort of thing

you want that, you don't get people like me
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>>40829814
>speaking of fat fucks
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>>40829814
ur kool
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this thread has finally made me realize how toxic 4chan is

you guys have saved me. i'm out
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>>40829868

sorry, you're a couple months late to the party there
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>>40829763
thats right faggot, type a long sentence and pretend you're taking the high road.

at the end of the day, you're still fat xD
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Daily reminder that mission2 from Canada is OUT OF THE GAME. Dude got busted early this month and will still take your money gladly.
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>>40829991
AKA Mission Laboratories. Won't get my order. Got burned on this one.. never assume someone's going to do business just because you're a repeat customer. Run a quick google search and keep up to date.
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>>40829991
how can he take your money if he got busted. its his rep scamming people
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who remembers gavin and nat lol

she just hit me up on FB and spammed a bunch of crazy shit about how i'm a piece of shit and a transvestite

i think she's hurt gav left her for a trap but idk??
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>>40830190
probably an accomplice trying to get bail money who knows.
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>>40828197
I like you, but this whole post makes me nauseous
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>>40828197
>Any oly movement
>meme

may i recommend a noose pullup
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>>40828254
>tfw just pinned 1ml of DHB yesterday and no abscess yet

ayyyyyy just two more days

>>40828197
>DHB

will confirm or deny meme compound findings in ~8 weeks. Granted I'm only on a cruise dose until summer then time to get Y U G E on 600/wk

>confirmed meme compounds
>proviron
>masteron

mast is very synergistic with a lot of compounds, same with proviron. Not really memes, just only useful for a small fraction of people. They're bretty comfy too

>meme exercises
>BB Rows
Y E S

>any oly movement
full movements maybe, full C&J/Snatch for bodybuilding would be stupid. But snatch deads, power cleans, jerks from blocks, all can be useful and fun every once in a while

>peeps oreo
MY MAN YOU KNOW I GOT SOME OF THESE THE SECOND I SAW THEM
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>>40822721
>those legs
Jesus christ
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Buy $2,000 in BTC now or see if it will bottom out at ~700-800? Waiting for dat dere jump back to $1200 after a week.
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>>40831660
how can she be such a qt
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>>40822018
wrm trek je altijd die gezicht? basic bitch aub
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>>40823549
You guys have more school shootings with more casualties than we have terrorist attacks.
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>>40826458
he's Marokkaan
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>>40831897
kankermongool

but i agree tbqh
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>>40831872
Bump for interest.

I lost 90$ on bitcoin so far in fees and depreciation so it better bounce
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can't believe Zyzz was only 22, gone too soon man fuck
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>>40832107
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>>40832143
Whether you liked him or not the guy had the perfect fucking physique
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do you monkeys train your v line? best exercises for this?
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>>40832181
adonis belt is mostly genetic anyway, low bf% helps but thats kinda it
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>>40824394
If you're doing 500mg of DNP is it better to take 250mg in the morning and evening, or just take the whole 500mg at once? Thanks breh
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So I've never done steroids in my life, but if I wanted to start taking 500mg/week of test e
Should I just take 500mg once every monday (or whenver) or split it up so like I take 250mg one day and then 250 another day each week?
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>>40832406
You should maybe do some research yourself before asking stupid fucking questions
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>>40832406
250 day 1
250 day 3.5

Keeps blood concentration stable. There's a site people sometimes post on here that allows you to plan your cycle and creates a graph of concentrations in the blood depending on which ester
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>>40832453
>>40832453
new>>40832453
>>40832453
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>>40821388
why shouldn't I take steroids at 18? Red pill me.
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>>40832298
Pls respond
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>>40832153
He looked like a weak giraffe.
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> tfw you want to do tren mainly for the sides
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>>40822034
1pill Nolva everyday the first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks.
1/2 Arimidex only when you feel estro sides like crying. Don't want to take too much and grow tits.
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>>40822650
this. a non-virgin knows that when a spread ass is placed in front of him, as long as there are no bits of poo or toilet paper stuck to it, it's gun git eat.
>>
how many vials of trenA should i buy to start with? i keep seeing wildly varying dosages, 50-100mg ED, for 6-12 weeks. I'd like to keep the amount spent ($45/ea) small in case i get bad sides and have to abandon it.
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Guys, my natural estrogen is very high at 39 (reference range 0 - 42) and I am about to embark on first cycle (25 yo, 200 lbs at 6'4"), should I start with arimidex 0.5 mg or 0.25 mg e3d just in case?
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>>40834375
All of them
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>>40831872
whatever you do, dont listen to the degenerate faggots here. it was either kahuna or bimbo who was shilling bitcoin right before the winkelvoss shit. two days later it dropped $100 in one day.

if you can stomach the chaos of the inevitable fork, btc might go fucking nuts. seems like a dumb investment tho since it's majority chinese at this point.
> trusting chinks
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>>40832542
why shouldn't you? do it. in fact, do 1g a week of whatever. your tough little young twink body can handle it. its not like you have shitty lipid values.
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>>40834549
there's no way for anyone to magically know how you will aromatize, so just pick one, stick with it, if you start getting weird sides, get a e2 sensitive blood test (like $40 srsly) and adjust the dial accordingly.

protip: start wearing a ring. it helps gauge bloatedness.
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>>40821430
She's pretty fuckin hot what r u on about

She went on to become a "fitness" model herself
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>>40822721
i will never understand normies, nor do i have any desire to
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