Redpill me on whole milk vs skimmed milk
Which is better for LEAN GAINS
>>40770790
same protein same sugar. skim less fat
but skimmed milk tastes like piss
>>40770790
Which ever one fits your macros. Less fat /calories? Skim.
>>40770790
No milk
dairy is awful for you
>>40771102
Came here to post this.
>>40771102
>>40771109
>dairy is awful for you
I dunno maybe if you're black or something, otherwise it's pretty great stuff.
>>40770799
there is no "sugar" added in milk tho. At least in whole milk. It's all natural sugar like the sugar in yams or bananas.
>>40771121
>there is no "sugar" added in milk tho
that doesn't mean there isn't sugar in it m8
>>40771102
nigger
>>40770790
Almond milk
Dairy is proven to raise estrogen and lower testosterone.
>>40771159
Are you a baby almond?
>>40771176
No I'm jacked as fuck breh
>>40771176
are you a baby cow?
>>40771188
muuuuuu
I drink 2% milk that has extra protein added, but I buy whole to cook with.
>>40771159
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976
theres this study, which was done with 18 people, If you have more credible sources with more thorough research please post.
>>40771217
This vid has some good milk studies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSUoyFC-8qE
>>40771241
the green lanklet strikes again
oh yeh i forgot /fit/ fell for the cows milk meme
eat like a baby act like a baby
>>40771241
too long, post studies I can read please.
>>40770799
Pretty much this. But less fat = less fat soluble Vitamins/ Minerals. And sometimes companies add sugar to low fat milk.
Also organic/ grass fed milk tends to has more micros and more good fats and less hormones.
Avoid homogenized milk.
>>40771139
true but his point is that only added sugar needs to be limited/cut out.
>>40771159
Almond "milk" is mostly just water
>>40771325
so is basically every other fluid you drink, including cows milk
>>40771312
Nobody said anything about added sugar anywhere you dumbass.
>>40771412
Milk is milk bro. Sure it contains some water naturally (around 85%) but with fatty acids, Minerals and Vitamins solubled in it.
Almond "milk" is only around 2% Almonds. Mostly water, some added sugar and emulgator.
So almond water would be actually somewhat more accurate since it is not a natural product. It is also a shitty alternative to real milk in terms of micro nutrition.
If you can't drink raw organic grassfed milk don't bother.
>>40771653
Pretty much. Doesn't have to be raw milk if you can't find it though. Normal Fresh milk (not homogenized or heated long-life one!) contains only around 10% less Vitamins/Minerals than raw milk.
>>40771217
> genetically improved cows
What about milk from cows that are not fucked up?
>>40771102
>>40771109
Quit spouting these memes
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
>>40771852
dunno m8, couldn't find a single study other than this one
>>40771159
>Dairy is proven to raise estrogen and lower testosterone.
>>40771871
Dairy does no such thing
>>40771871
pretty much like red meat.
So if you eat healthy and clean most of the times and you keep stuff in moderation then everything should be perfectly fine.
>>40771871
>>40771876
Also about the prostate cancer I have a hard time buying it when the article says
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct.
>difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>>40771277
Babbies add tons of lean mass to their frame. Talk shit about cows when are 900 pounds lean faggot.
>>40771871
>>40771874
Dairy is meant to take a calf to a full grown bovine. You are not a bovine. You are a human. You stopped sucking your mom's tits after 1-2 years max.
Milk is not needed. Just because you are white doesn't mean you SHOULD drink milk, eat cheese, or cook with butter. It just means you CAN do those things with no real ill effects SHORT TERM.
Long term, you're basically fucking up your circulatory system, and introducing hormonal imbalances.
Remember, there's billions of dollars in that industry, and they pay "scientists" to keep their interests protected with (((studies))).
Wouldn't you?
>>40770790
raw milk
Are yoghurts a good substitute [spoiler]if im black[/spoiler]
>>40772124
>Dairy is meant to take a calf to a full grown bovine. You are not a bovine.
>he doesn't want to be strong like bull
>>40772130
If you're not lactose intolerant you'll be fine, if you are, no, because yoghurt still has lactose
>>40772146
Hehe. All kidding aside, dairy isn't very useful for a well-rounded healthy eating schedule. It has sugar in it. You don't need sugar. it has cholesterol. You really don't need that also. They have to fortify it with Vitamin D just to have a marketable sales point.
It really is just trash in a glass. Takes good, but that's because of the sugar.
>>40770790
drink milk only if you're in dire need of a bulk or if you are a pleb (it's cheap)
>>40772203
Jesus fucking Christ you sound like a women's magazine from the grocery store checkout line. Get out of here with your momscience.
Where do you niggers get non-homogenized milk? Can i buy that shit without going out to a farm?
>>40771102
enjoy your #LMAOnogains and normal coloured poo
>>40772124
>Just because you are white doesn't mean you SHOULD drink milk, eat cheese, or cook with butter.
I'm not even white I eat/drink all these just fine and anyone's who's not white can as well, outside of lactose intolerance this is just another forced meme.
>It just means you CAN do those things with no real ill effects SHORT TERM.
It doesn't "mean" anything. These ill effects you want to blame on dairy don't exist.
>Long term, you're basically fucking up your circulatory system, and introducing hormonal imbalances.
No, you're not.
>>40772163
I cant drink milk out of bottle it makes me puke but i eat a shit ton of cheese and i can eat yogurts. I wonder if it's a meme or specific to american niggers. I dont know any black people REALLY lactose intolerent around me.
Im not a african nigger, tho
>>40772547
>outside of lactose intolerance this is just another forced meme.
the meme comes from global majorities being statistically more likely to be lactose intolerant.
>>40772613
then you're probably not lactose intolerant.
>>40772203
>don't need cholesterol
>>40771871
>he is a human
>>40771188
An adult male is at least 200lbs.
>>40773174
not him, but he obviously meant you don't really need dietary cholesterol and he's right. You will get some from eating a normal diet, and your body will make plenty even if you don't eat any so it's not a nutrient you ever need to worry about getting more of.
>>40770790
last i checked skimmed had higher amounts of sugar so youre better off buying whole milk just for the extra nutrients absorbed in the fat
>>40771852
It's all the same shit the whole "free range organic" milk, eggs, and meat is a fucking shill m8
>>40771208
Good call
>>40773174
You don't need cholesterol. Your body takes healthy fats that you ingest and converts them to the necessary cholesterol that the body needs
>>40772203
>it has cholesterol. You really don't need that also
Look, another faggot that doesn't know the difference between HDL/LDL, neither has a fucking idea that dietary cholesterol does not correlate to blood cholesterol, as the later is sintetized by your liver from sugars, saturated fats and trans fats
>>40774667
>dietary cholesterol does not correlate to blood cholesterol, as the later is sintetized by your liver from sugars, saturated fats and trans fats
Dietary cholesterol stimulates synthesis too
http://www.ibcmt.com/2009-03-16-EffectsOfDietaryCholesterolOnSerumCholesterol-PaulHopkins.pdf
http://www.bmj.com/content/314/7074/112.long
https://www.nap.edu/read/10490/chapter/11
>>40774667
Look, another delusional faggot that wants to argue against proven peer reviewed studies.
>>40772124
>Just because you are white doesn't mean you SHOULD drink milk, eat cheese, or cook with butter.
funny how the genetic mutation that made drinking milk into adulthood possible rapidly spread through europe
why would that happen if it has no benefit
>>40775375
It probably did have some benefit, just not necessarily health benefits. Cheesemaking is a huge part of European culture. It's understandable that they would get better at digesting lactose. Breadmaking with mostly white flour was also huge. It's not good for you but it's tasty and part of the culture.
Fucking subhumans and your nodairy memery. Get off my board RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>40772124
What the fuck do you think older eras of men consumed? Dairy and red meat.
And people wonder why the fuck every other male is a hairless baby faced sjw.
>it's a schlomo tricks white people into abstaining from dairy because it's an unfair advantage thread