/fat/ Fatty General: Weekend Edition

literally ate 4000 calories every day this week senpai

>>40656258
w-why

>>40656258
christ dude... I know what you mean though. I've been there before. Getting into a groove is the hardest part, staying in it is easy.

At least eat maintenance for a week or so man.

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>>40656258

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>110kg to 88kg in two months

Uh, so losing weight is not hard... I should have done this years ago.

>>40656214
>Start worrying about my weight (185kg)
>Realize too fat to exercise
>Start slowly improving diet all last year and doing mobility stuff
>start 2017 at 150kg can actually move somewhat
>double down on the fitness
>get to the start of march 135kg
>buy a bike that can handle my weight so I can do more exercise during workdays
>Gets fucking stolen not a week after I brought it while locked to a post inside a bike cage

Still gonna make it my goal of 75kg eventually but damn did that bike theft make me salty.

>>40656422
>50 lbs in 2 months

how?

>>40656489
500 to 1000kcal per day plus lifting and cardio with thermogenics.
Three followed days of exercises, one of rest, repeat.

Do get your daily vitamin and mineral needs, though. Or else you'll feel hungry. And yes, it is possible to get what you need under 1000kcal.

Also, no cheat days. I didn't feel hunger or craving ever since and junk food is unpleasant to me now.

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>>40656258
>tfw used to eat 1kg of chicken nuggets for dinner
Get on my level.

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binge eater here
spent all of February binge eating literally ~10k (yes 10,000) calories a day and went from 187lbs to 203lbs

it's been 9 days since I've last binge ate and I'm so scared of doing it again

>>40656792
Damn, what would your typical binge consist of?

>>40656545
>I didn't feel hunger or craving ever since
every since what?

most fatties will cave in a couple of hours once the hunger kicks in.

>>40656792
fucking how? I can't imagine eating 10k of calorie dense ice cream in one day, let alone anything somewhat filling

I've been doing good! I did cardio for almost an hour and then really pushed my strength training. I feel amazing!

>>40656840
Ever since I started losing weight.
Didn't feel hunger or craving.

>>40656889
you got seriously lucky honestly.

most fat asses will be in horrible pain soon after.

>>40656920
Because most fat asses that are trying and failing are usually doing something wrong if they're still having cravings, like completely ignoring the craving instead of replacing it with a better option.

How much grams of proteins should I eat per day? I just found out I've been eating roughly 70-80 but it's apparently too low.

>>40656958
Even when they do everything right they still can't stop.

It's happened a million times already, something is wrong with their brain.

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i ordered this yesterday,

whats one thing i can do with this machine to lose weight the fastest in my stomach?

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I don't know what to do.

My SS 5x5 is hitting plateaux, and my legs hurt. The hurt is kinda scaring me away from the gym but I press on because I want to make it.

I'm beginning to think that making gains and losing weight as a fatty is a meme. I want to undergo a cut, but I want to maintain the low gains that I have. I've been thinking of doing:

A: Squat Bench OHP (3x5) Dips (4x12) HIIT 20 mins
B:Rest, Low intensity cardio for 60 mins like fast walk or jog
C: Squats Rows DL (3x5) Chin-ups 3x5 HIIT 20 mins.

And go ABCBABC.. while on a 500 calories deficit on maintenance (not substracting exercices)

Would that be good?

Pic is me, I'm 6' and 285 lbs. The need to lose weight goes without saying, but do I really have to lose 100 pounds no matter what THEN build muscles?

>>40657000
Spot reduction is a meme just use it for preacher curls and incline curls

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>>40656480
Don't give up anon. You might lost a bike, but you've already lost 50 kg. At est you kilograms are going down.
Btw, did you report it to the police?

>>40656876
Great job anon!

Shameless bump

>>40657028
Thank you! I never thought i'd make it past the first week but it's almost saturday and here i am!

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>>40657009
It's not a meme, because I did it I used to look like you 220lbs at 6ft. Still got a bit of loose skin on the chest but I look a 1000 times better then before.

Just make sure you're training hard and don't be affraid to put more volume in your routine 4 x 8 on every exercise for example. And eat a little under maintenance ofcourse.

>>40656987
That depends on how big you are, but 70-80g should be just enough to not get deficient. You'll need more if you want to build muscle.

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>>40657159
Before

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God saw that cheat meal you ate. Confess, /fat/. What was it?

>>40657332
I-it was just two chocolate bars... but they were small ones, I p-promise. Not more than 130cals each ;-;

>>40657159
So I try to stick to 5x5 with 5 lbs progression, then if I were to plateau too hard, say, after 3 deloads, you'd recommend 4x8 over 3x5?

>>40657332
eating a pizza rn desu lads

>>40656545
>>40656889
>>40656958
>thermogenics
>everyone else is doing it wrong because they get hungry
yeah I remember running an ECA stack too buddy, good luck when you have to come off

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>>tfw I want genuine advice and experience sharing and all I get is 2 serious dudes and a bunch of lard asses talking about junk food.

My macros for the weeks are
>23% carbs
>37% fat
>40% protein
Is that too much brotein? Is my body going to start consuming al the protein in my body before the fat or is that just broscience?

>>40657581
If you lose weight, you'll also lose muscle mass. Boosting your prot intake makes it so you lose less. This look good to me but I'd lower fat and up carbs to be 30-30-40.

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will the tits disappear eventually?

>>40656480
>Gets fucking stolen not a week after I brought it while locked to a post inside a bike cage

How the fuck? Was it an expensive looking bike?

>>40657815
yes
there will be a limit you reach low body fat , then you will need to work out

>>40657000
>whats one thing i can do with this machine to lose weight the fastest in my stomach?

Sell it and use the money to buy protein powder. For weight loss, focus on controlling calories. Cardio for health. Lifting for appearance and health.

>>40656489
https://www.stolenbikes.com.au/Stolen/Bike/4072

Na not overly expensive just a 29inch base model trail bike

>>40656864
I did it daily for months, went from 240 to 350 in under a year
>5 eggs, pack of bacon, biscuits and sausage gravy, hash browns cooked in butter, half gallon of milk breakfast
>$20 at [insert fast food restaurant] lunch, 2l of coke to wash it down
>xl pizza for dinner, sometimes with side of breadsticks, 2l of coke to wash it down
>that 1000+cal (large) oreo shake from jack in the box as desert
>snacks include egg salad sandwich, salami+cheese sandwich, tuna salad sandwich, or party size bag of chips
I notice it's all carbs, meats heavy in fats, and 0 fruits or veggies. Also, drinking 3000 calories doesn't fill you up like 1500 in food does

>>40657021
Yeah reported it and everything.
Still gonna make it ahaked my confidence for a day or two

>>40656792
holy fuck

i dont even know how to do that in a day, much less every day for a month

>>40657332
I ate a large wonton soup (1 qt) and 4 beers last saturday

>>40657468
Only been doing it for 14 days so far. Wish I started with it, hence why I recommended.

>former ripped fag who permabulked his way back into shitty habits and poor willpower reporting in.

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> tfw just found out about poached eggs on toast.
> mfw I can't stop eating them.
> mfw I've already had five of them today
> mfw I know I'll probably have more tomorrow.

>>40657018
>>40657861
or you could answer my question faggots

fuckin idiots

I read men aren't supposed to eat below 1,500 a day, so I've been at 1,500 a day for the past 6 weeks and lost about 14 pounds. But now I've started beginning weight training for 30 minutes 3 times a week/walking a couple of miles on rest days. Should I go up to 1,800 to make up for the extra I'm burning? Although I doubt I'm burning an extra 300 a day.

>>40658131
I love eggs and toast too brah. dipping a well toasted piece of bread into egg yolk is delicious.

On the bright side it's not that bad, 2 eggs and a piece of toast is about 200 cals total.just don't overdo it.

>>40658158
it totally depends on how much you weigh. you should calculate your TDEE in the links in OP

>>40656480
If google isn't lying to me 135 kg is like 300 pounds. I don't think you need a special bike. An old school steel frame road bike/mountain bike will hold you plenty. Hell an aluminum would probably do you too.

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340lbs fat fuk here, how the fuck can I get better at bench. I'm 8 days out from 2 months of lifting and my bench and OHP are still shit and I'm struggling really hard to make gainz on them. I started lifting in jan on the 18th after 15 years of sitting on my fat ass playing video games and eating shit so I had almost no muscle. Pic is my lifts. My bench is stuck at 135 and my OHP 95. Doing 5x5

>>40658135
There is no exercise that will increase the fat loss in any specific area of the body. You can only decrease or increase total body fat. This information is in the sticky. So that machine is a waste of money.

A home gym should consist of a barbell, plates and a power rack. Cardio doesn't require equipment.

So counted started counting macros trying to get only 43g of fat, but everything has like 1 gram of fat per gram of everything else some.

Should I just eat like 600 cals a day then, and try the best can to get everything?

>>40658265
What? I don't understand what you want. At 600kcal a day you'd need to get at least 400kcal of that as protein.

>>40658225
Lose weight you fucking whale

>>40658318
Just a rant, sorry. I'm just seeing that everything has tons of fat in it. I can't get close to my protein or carb needs without having triple the fat intake.

>>40658355
>I'm just seeing that everything has tons of fat in it.
are you eating purely steak or something? Chicken, Eggs, Turkey, and even some cuts of Beef have minimal fat vs protein.

>>40658355
This is what protein powder is for: getting large amounts of protein with little of the other macros. It's not a supplement. It's just food in powder form. Like powdered milk. Whey protein powder is actually a subcomponent of powdered milk, though not separated from powdered milk but made from the leftovers of cheese production (=whey). Check online for prices and buy the cheapest whey concentrate you can find. Drink it in shakes or add it to food or even use it in baking.

>>40658225
You say you can't progress past those points, but is it because you aren't strong enough, or endurant enough? I feel like declogging your arteries and making it so the air you breathe is actually used would help.

Also, you probably busted your abdominal belt. Keep your core tight while lifting. God speed fat brah, may you make it.

>>40658355
carbs are very easy to get - bread, rice, pasta....
for protein there's plenty of leaner meats, fish, stuff like beans are good too. i add kidney beans to most of the rice i have.

>>40658381
a bread roll has 43g carbs and 20 grams of fat.

So I'm at this for today:
420 cal
20g protein, 43g carbs, 37g fat

I need to be at this:
2000 cal
200g protein,200g carbs,44g fat

>>40657815
Lose fat, fill up skin with muscles.

Being non-lanklet 6'8 fatty is your golden ticket to beast mode.

>>40658424
>a bread roll has 43g carbs and 20 grams of fat.
what bread are you eating dude jesus christ. don't get big bread rolls, just get small slices that are 70-100 calories each.

>200g protein,200g carbs,44g fat
you do not need even remotely that much protein. 100g a day will suffice, especially if you don't lift often

>>40658424
20 grams of fat?? are you covering it in lard?

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I had a realization today. Fat people are naturally selecting themselves out of the gene pool. In the past fatness was sometimes associated with wealth and prosperity. Now it's associated with laziness, lack of self respect, and poor long-term planning. So being fat is the same as showing everyone that you're ugly both inside and out.

It also shows how as a society, our priorities have changed since gathering food is no longer important. Intelligence, health, and respect are more important qualities than being able to put food on the table.

>>40658438
No, but I do live in amerifat, so it's is more then like made with it.

>>40658453
dude I live in america too, you're just making excuses at this point.

Just buy some sliced Wonderbread or Wraps, don't get big dense bread rolls.

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>>40658447
Fat dude here.
I posted in this thread asking for advice.

I'm currently taking a post-coitus shit with my cellphone. Meanwhile, you couldn't contribute to the gene pool even if you had the keys to a Lamborghini hanging out of your boxers.

>>40658453
are you sure you got it right? the bread rolls i have with about the same amount of carbs have about 4g of fat.

>>40658468
>I'm currently taking a post-coitus shit
how do you even approach girls as a fatty? I could only do it when I was relatively fit (used to be about 15% body fat at one point with almost visible abs)

>>40658468
then here's a piece of advice

stop taking pride in being fat

>>40658482
It depends, how old are you?

>>40658484
I'm not, I specifically asked for tips to lose weight. Would anyone here be in this thread if they were happy about being fat? I'm just saying that your edgy 15 years old realisation about fat people is shit because you personally are very ugly inside from what I've seen, and you're so beautiful outside that you have insecurities about having no gf.

Go to the friday feels thread and let us make it while you wallow in self-despair and hatred.


... Faggot.

>>40658503
21, graduating University in about a year.

I feel that I missed out by being fat most of my Uni years. I'm on track to be slim enough to feel comfortable approaching girls again by the August though, when school comes back from Summer.

p-p-pls help

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>>40658447
Damn you're retarded, is this the logic American's learn in their public schools?

By your reasoning every supermodel is the nicest person alive, and the fatter you are the meaner you are.

Take Boogie for example. According to your theory he must be a vile evil piece of shit. I don't know the man personally, but he definitely isn't from what I can see from his Youtube videos.

Neck yourself.

>>40658536
you're projecting quite a fucking bit, my friend. bit odd how fucking enraged you got from my observation. is it not a fact that on average fat is viewed as ugly, thus less likely to reproduce? Over time, the tendency to eat more and be fat will be slowly trimmed out of the gene pool, at least in first world countries. This isn't a bad thing, faggot.

>>40658562
I never said anything about being nice. I said that fatties are lazy, lack self-respect, and lack long term planning. Boogie is all of those things.

Again, being fat is merely an indication to the world that you lack basic self-respect and don't care about yourself. Pretty ugly imho.

>>40658424
There is nothing wrong with having more fat in your diet unless you have a special medical condition and your doctor ordered a low fat diet. You don't need 200g of protein.

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how do i get rid of my stretch marks guys, any possible way?

>>40658540

I dunno man.

At 21 it's very hard to approach girls and be taken seriously as a fat guy. And yes you are missing out. Keep doing fit things.

To answer your question, your best bet would probably be mutual friends, or friends approaching girls who have friends. Be in conversations that the girls are already involved in.

I'm not going to tell you to be confident, because you're fat and I don't want you to think that this is OK. But, do take responsability for your actions, be aware of who you are, and of who you want to be. Don't be ashamed of who you are. You made bad choices, don't deny responsability. TAKE CHARGE. Base every action on that who you want to be and people will realize that you have drive, leadership and ambition.

I think girls don't like fat people not because of their physique, but rather what it says about them: spineless, lazy, no drive, etc. Circumvent that. Be assertive, dynamic, have goals.

On the way you might end up loving yourself more. Then you won't have to ask strangers on a Eskimo Snowman Building Forum how to approach girls. Approach them as human beings, know what you want from them, act accordingly.

You can try to get involved in some student organization or a club. Just get out there and show everyone that you're a good investment of time. That you get shit done. Don't try too hard with women, do your thing until your mindset changes.

>>40658681
I've heard lotion and oils help, but honestly time is the best way to beat stretch marks.

Unless you went over 300 lbs or something crazy, stretch marks will disappear in 2-3 years.

>>40658697

The most i ever weighed was 250
Im at 237.2 right now, any creams or oils you reccomend? I got fat at 15 and im 21 now

>>40658567
Obesity rates in first world countries go up, tendency to eat more and be fat will be trimmed out. Sure dude.

You are the one projecting too, spitting so much hate against a whole group of people. Why don't you use that energy to be helpful to your fellow human beings. Hate is swallowing poison and expecting your enemy to die. It brings nothing good to the hated, and make you look like an idiot to the others.

I think you need to lay off the chan a little, and come back to the real world.

>>40658713
Coconut oil.

Also you're gonna make it. Young skin is more elastic.

>>40658713
I dunno that much about lotions man, but I'm sure there are resources you can google. Honestly though, loose skin and stretch marks aren't that big of a deal. You have your clothes on 95% of the time anyways, and when they're off if you're lean enough people won't really care or notice.

The good thing is you're still quite young so your body can rebound back quickly. Don't sweat it but start now.

>>40658744
Thank you so much
>youre gonna make it
I needed to hear that

>>40656422

How did your skin adapt? 22 kg in 2 months sounds like a recipe for loose skin. And how old are you?

>>40658748
I definetly will start.

Thank you

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>>40658688
thanks man, the competition is fierce from what I see just walking around my University. I can be sociable I just need to be comfortable in my own skin first.

I'm moving ahead though. Thanks for the advice.

>>40658750
And even if you don't, man up and take responsability for those stretch marks.

Know how some people are like "Meh it's easy for him to be ripped, he was born this way blah blah genetics"?

They won't be able to say shit about your stretch mark body. They'll see you were fat, but took action and made it.

It's like seeing a fighter with scars. You assume he's a good fighter even if scars mean he got hit pretty badly many times... yet you don't think about that. You think about how bad he had it, and what he pushed through. Stretch marks are your scars.

just been vomiting quite badly after polishing off a whole medium pizza

karma I suppose
or someone has stapled my stomach without my knowledge

>>40658732
My dear, overly sensitive friend. You yourself said itt that girls don't take fatties seriously. Most fatties will not overcome this detriment. Over time, these people will reproduce less and less.

I'm also confused about your little lecture on hatred. I don't think I implied I hate fatties, but maybe I'm just not a sensitive guy like you so I overlooked something that can be construed as hateful.

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>>40658784
That made me feel alot better about myself holy shit
I never thought of it like that
Thank you dude

>>40656876
keep going anon, we're all gonna make it

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>>40658804
>>Implying that obesity rates go up only for men
>>Wanting to rustle my jimmies by calling me sensitive

It's not about being sensitive, and I'd tell you the same thing if I was prime Arnold. Stop having those toxic and retarded thoughts, and stop sharing them. They'll stain your personality and one day you'll wake up and realize that you became an asshole.

If you "came to a realization" that means that you actually spent time thinking about it. Use your time better, be a positive example. You won't change the world by being a dick, and people will just close their mind to you if you just spout shit at them.

Like, you're in a fat thread on fit. People willing to change. You could help them, in turn they'd help others, snowball effect. Instead, you talk about cleaning the gene pool. Nobody will listen to you after that.

>>inb4 "I don't care lulz"

If you care that much about having a better gene pool for the whole species, you should begin at a small scale with the office, this forum, your gym, your head, etc.

>>40658803
i have been eating clean for 2 months now and it is the same for me. My body can't handle greasy disgusting food anymore, ate a pizza 2 weeks ago, after eating 1 slice i had to shit immediatly and my stomach felt awful, ended up throwing the rest away.

>>40658878
yeah, trust me I've learned my lesson

>>40658810
Now go get stretch marks on your shoulders and biceps from all the gains.

>>40658875
Cleaning the gene pool will happen one way or another. Evolution happens one way or the other. You're upset because you know I'm right. Maybe a lot of people itt will make it and have happy lives and families. But most fat people as a whole will not. Because if being fat was enjoyable, no one would be in this thread.

>>40658939
Being fat kills you after you reach reproductive age. If anything, fat people tend to be less educated, and less educated people make more kids. So sorry brah.

And I'm upset because I went from 320 to 220 and started talking like you do. I went down that path, realized I was a retard, and came back. I'm just trying to save you time mate. No harsh feelings

>>40658939
is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpy1FlGKYz0

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Guys I have serious advice. The more fit I get, the shittier I get at video games.

>>40658988
Awww you think Im a bully?

>>40658999
*I need serious advice.

>>40658761
I'm 22. Seems like a lot of 2s. 22 years old, 22kg, 2 months.

And my skin is fine as far as far skins go. I'm very short (1,65m) meaning that loose skin is bound to happen given the weight I was. I still have to lose at least 20kg, I figure.
I have stretch marks on my belly so I will DEFINITELY have loose skin there.

>>40658964
>less educated people tend to be fat

See, you agree with me whether you realize it or not. Obesity is a way of signalling to others your own deficiencies. People see those deficiencies and are repulsed by them. That's just the cold truth anon.

I appreciate you trying to dole out positive advice, but sometimes people need to face the cold reality. Lying to people and telling them to just mask everything with positivity is just as unhealthy as an obese person drowning their problems with food.

>>40656422
A. Yeah losing weight is easy, most people just can't commit to it and when they do, end up back on their old habits and gain the weight back (though you gain weight slower than you lose it so it takes about double the time it took you to lose it to gain it back, leaving room to improve again)

B. It shouldn't be that easy. Try eating a bit more, please. You've lot a lost of weight so I think you should be good to slow down your progress a bit because your rate is pretty drastic.

>>40657332
It depends.

I ate a single slice of pizza today but I don't really consider something a "cheat meal" unless it seriously digs into my TDEE.

I ate an order of General Tsao's Chicken the other day, which was supposedly 1500 calories. I went from 234 on my daily weigh in to 237 the next day.

I'm back down to 232 now though so no biggie.

Last week I ate 1000 calories worth of sushi in one meal but had a light breakfast and light dinner so I still was under on my TDEE.

I went from 250 to 225 and my double chin still isn't gone.

Why isn't it gone? I didn't have a double chin when I first got to 225.

>>40659322
You made your skin loose.

>>40659395
It's not loose though, it's still fat.

lost 218 still need to lose 8 more. I have stopped losing weight for about a month now so starting next week I'm reducing to 500 a day until I hit my 175 goal. Wish me luck fellow fatties.

>>40656422
I lost about 35kg in 3 months
then about 10kg in 2 months

it's hard to see progress being crippled like that, but you gotta plow on
the weight ain't coming off any other way

>>40659448
Still, you can have tough skin which will hold the fat in place better, or loose skin which will make it dangle. It'll adjust eventually, keep losing weight.

kinda like running my fingers over my stretch marks

>>40657881
When you finally make it, that bike will be waiting for you brah.

His angel-ghost form will wave at you from heaven right before the credits roll.

I'm at 317, starting from 330. How many jumping jacks should a fit person be able to do at once? I managed to work up to 70 and figured 100 was a good goal to start with.

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As of today i've lost 101lbs on this 15 month journey that i started on nov 2015 as a 360lbs NEET hambeast, today the scale showed 259.

The secret simply is to never stop trying, i failed countless of times, i really wanted to give up, but even if you eat 5k calories a day for a whole week, you gotta roll with it and keep going, ultimately you'll reach goal after goal, after goal. People don't fail when they binge, they fail when they stop giving a damn

Welp can't celebrate yet got another 60ish pounds to lose (6'2), let's make it CMOOON

>>40660326
True this bro. I have went from 275 to 200 and back 3 times now. I refuse to give up, and this time will be the last I ever lose it. I will end myself before I let myself put that weight back on again.

Don't meet grills, they are gains goblins, making you comfy, wanting your time. Get fit and do you for a few years after you reach your goal, until that lifestyle is cemented and you know you won't go back to being a fatty, even if you don't have time to work out.

>>40656489
I had a kmart bike at first for thay very reason but that thing fell apart.

Not expensive, just like a base trek bike.
Decent shocks and frames and was amazing to ride b4 it got stolen.

>>40660326
when you say you've tried before, did you try the proper method, or did you try the gimmick diets?

the proper method has been the only thing that has worked for me
it took me a while to get over my inability to take it gradually. I thought that if I wasn't starving myself every day then I was wasting time. Kinda compulsive really.

>>40657885
That is why I must make it.

Should I track calories burned from jerking off? I usually do it at least twice a day and that has to be at least 100 calories

Is it fucked up to lose roughly 1kg every 4 days? I eat 1000 kcal of only healthy stuff and go to the gym 3 times a week doing cardio+lifting.

>>40660720
shit i just ate a whole bag of those yesterday

>>40657332
Whopper Texas, fries, 1L nestea, schowka bons.
Tfw killed 4 days of deficite with one meal.

But I just ate ~1600 kcal over TDEE, why did scales go 1kg up?

>>40658093
I know that feel

>>40658355
Grill your meat, or cook it in a way that the fat drains off. Not really rocket science, you can also trim visible excess

5kgs down, 15 to go!

>>40656480
Good for you, anon. Keep at it. Sorry to hear about your bike.

Simple and easy food that for rest of my life?
I was eating bowl of rice for every single meal for while coz doc said rice is good coz doc said its good diet. Fucking Reeeeee.

Is brown rice any good?

Thank you.

>>40661329
I'm a noob but I've making progress so here is what my diet consists of, all simple shit to cook:
Turkey/chicken, tuna/salmon, oats, greek yogurt, almonds, apples, salad/random veggies.
I've only heard good things about brown rice here.

>>40661329
Eating it 3x a day is excessive but it is the best carb side.

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>mfw I thought I was fatty as a 180 cm 94 kg male
>mfw there are people ITT who have weighed up to 200 kg

How does this happen?

>>40661579
Well two years ago I was about 108 kg and I'm a manlet. For me it was a coping mechanism. Plus the fatter you get the shittier you look the less you care about looking better good.

>>40661579
>How does this happen?
Happens if you a lot more calories than you burn.

>>40661656
+eat

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>>40661593
Personally I started eating shitty because it was easy, I could afford it and I didn't really notice any change for a long time, since I'm exercising pretty actively. Shit is crazy hard now tho that I started fixing my diet and eating healthy.

The sugar is the real bitch here. Those cravings just drive me mad and still get me most of the time.

>>40661656
Yeah, but I mean how do people get to the point that they weight 200 kg? Didn't they look at the mirror, didn't their body send any warning signals, did they think this would be just ok?

>>40661674
>did they think this would be just ok?
No they don't, they just don't care because eating feels good. Your body sends all kind of help signals. It's like being addicted to a drug that's extremely easy to find.

>lose 20kg 3 years ago
>gain 20kg in the last year
So hello back senpai. I never thought id be here again.
Friendly reminder that this i very likely to happen to you when you are done with your weight loss and that maintenance is the toughest part

>>40661818
2 years ago I lost 35 kgs in three months by starving myself like an idition, put back 20 since than to a month ago. Now I'm trying to do things properly with diet and exercise.

>>40661839
>idition
Idiot*, case in point.

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>>40661839
What happens when you starve yourself like that? Can't you just continue with an adjusted healthy diet?

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>>40656214
Which one lads, I heard the unflavored astes like balls and I'm using it for the summer cut

>>40661857
unflavored is great, its all ill ever buy from now on. Flavored whey gets pretty disgusting after some time taking it, even though some taste great in the beginning. Unflavored can either taste like nothing if you want, or if you add a bit of sweetner and milk to it it'll taste like fucking delicious cream cheese

>>40661857
Chocolate smooth for sure.

>stalled for 4 days on a 1300 deficit
REEEEEEEEE MAKE IT STOP

>>40661854
Of course you can I could have done that but I was an idiot, like 80% of the people that lose a lot of weight and end up in the in my same predicament. IMO what fucks us over is not understanding that this is meant to be a permanent lifestyle change so that when you'll be done you can afford some of your favourite meals every now and then. Most ex-fatties just snowball very fast in eating like they did before, I did so when I started to hate my life more than usual. It doesn't help that they (we) had been normal-weight for so little that the body still accumulates fat like there is no tomorrow.

>>40661870
Don't enter starvation mode. Anyway it's likely water, the weight will go away in one go in a few days.

>>40661674
When i was 5 or 6 i was severly undeweight, i got hospitalized because i fainted, they fed me with a tube for a week. After that they sent me to a childrens hospital that was supposed to teach me how to eat properly. The group at the hospital was a mixed group 90% fatties and 10% underweights, the food was mostly extremly healthy and huge portions. Every single day my stomach hurt from being forced to eat more. I was there for like 3 months, eventually i learned to eat until i was in physical pain. Once i got back home my parents didn't serve nearly as healthy food but i continued eating until my stomach hurt every day.
I was normal weight when i was around 7 or 8 years old, but soon after got fatter every day. Around 10 years old i was already overweight at 14 i was already obese, still always eating until my stomach hurt. Parents divorce and i live with dad, dad used to work as cook but only cooks real for on weekends, throughout the week we eat fast food basically every day. Around 17 years old dad has to move because of his job, so i need my own flat to finish school. My general day was usually skip breakfast, buy a sandwich for lunch, eat a pizza or other fast food for dinner + snacks all day. Probably around 120-130kg at this point.
Finish school and start studying mathematics at university, visit my dad and grandma for christmas after 2 years or so and have a mental breakdown. Abort my studies, get depression, apply for welfare sit at home play video games and eat all day. Do this for about 4-5 years and eventually i was 160kg.
Now i'm trying to change my life. Been eating healthy for ~6 weeks and i was below 150 this wednesday.

Unique predicament. I have made it a rule not to eat midnight snacks anymore and I haven't for the past two months. But I am up at 3 AM right now because of literal anal pain preventing me from falling asleep and as such I have gotten hungry. Make an exception? Obviously not go overboard, just a snack to quell the pang.

>>40661967
Tell your dad to start using low-carb lubricant

>>40661967
Eat half a fruit.

>>40661967
Drink water.

>>40661899
I can feel what it is. A beast in my intestine. It's been growing, consuming everything which crosses its path. Its loud roars shake the bed at night, gassing any in my presence. For days it has refused to leave its lair, but I know that tonight, the only time I will be remotely social, it will come out to do battle.
If there is a massive shitposting increase in tomorrow's thread, know that I died valiantly.

>>40662094
>the only time I will be remotely social, it will come out to do battle.
I can relate too well. Keep and eye on the bathrooms and good luck.

>>40658424
then don't eat bread? I found it's one of the easier food items to cut out

>>40657332
XL BACON DOUBLE CHEESE AND A ROYAL WITH CHEESE.

>woke up with my pects on fire
>haven't worked on them since Thursday

Is it safe to work them today?

>that comfy new pants feel :3
When is the best stage to by new clothes in a diet, /fat/? If I buy them all now halfway through I'll need to do it again at the end, but if I don't do it now I'll be wearing parachute clothes for another 6 months

>>40662905
Find a goodwill

>>40662905
I don't get a new wardrobe until I'm satisfied, otherwise I tend to get complacent

>>40657332
Monte Cristo with onion rings

>>40657332
a whole medium pizza
I fucking paid for it though, never again

>>40657332
1/4 of 1.4L box of ice cream

>>MFW I thought I had found fat bros willing to make it.
>>MFW you all come here to brag about the shit food you ate.
>>MFW I see skinnyfat kids at the gym in pairs, making gains and sharing tips.
>>MFW getting fit while fat is a lone wolf thing, since fatties are stuck in that fat mentality prison and give up before starting.

>>40663598
The best friend you can get is someone that already made it tbqh. All the fatfucks I try to help always give up.

>getting fit while fat is a lone wolf thing
only if you can't afford surgery

fuck me I ate over 3500 calories today. this fucking testosterone theraphy is making me so hungry its impossible to diet. I might aswell start a bulk this way

>>40663618
assuming you are the tranny or trap from last time, there was a reason people didn't want to give you advice when you are taking testosterone and other medications at the same time.

>>40663727
im not a fucking trap im a low T guy who went on testosterone replacement. my appetite is huge

>>40663771
in that case, just stop eating fatty.

>>40660774
I never track calories burned, losing weight became easier for me.

>>40663771
I was on antipsychotic meds for a while and they made me so fucking hungry constantly

fortunately they also made me quite sleepy, so I planned my meals around that

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I have literally never eaten oats since I was a child, but /fit/ is obsessed with them. They seem to have a fuckhuge amount of calories though, are they still good for us fatties? How are you supposed to prepare them? Like porridge or like cereal?

>>40663851
>hey seem to have a fuckhuge amount of calories though
you are wrong, if you eat a recommend portion of 40-50 grams with 200-300ml of milk they are an extremly satiating breakfast for less than 500 calories.

How quickly will my metabolism rate fall if I eat ~1000 calories a day (my maintenance calories is ~2700 calories)?

How adverse will be the effect?

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>>40657332
Motherfucker I was going post my cheat lol I'm so sorry guys. Was going to only eat one slice but ;-;

>>40662782
Please respond this impacts my day

>>40663915
This is more confusing than anything else. Why would you have only 2 slices of pizza, and what situation arose where you also had access to chicken, bacon, and tortillas? Is this an american thing?

Guys, I'm having a really hard time calculating the calories. Can I make it without counting them?

>>40663851
They have good macros and lots of carbs like pasta or bread, but imo they keep you full for longer.

>>40663851
>/fit/ is obsessed with them

Oats are simultaneously an ok source of protein, a great source of calories, a great source of fiber and yet still dirt cheap. All things /fit/izens value in food. Especially the price. Oats are among the absolute cheapest sources of calories around, along with white rice and pasta. But oats have considerably more nutritional value than those two.

Being high calorie might seem bad when you're eating low calories to lose weight but their fibrousness makes them very filling and able to keep hunger away for longer (for most people, results vary). The main culprit in their special fillingness is probably betaglucan, a water-soluble fiber.

>How are you supposed to prepare them? Like porridge or like cereal?

Either one. Rolled oats are edible as-is. You can just add liquid and eat them without heating or heat them with liquid to make oatmeal. I add whey protein, a little flax seed and a little oil to mine and cook them with water in the microwave. I don't actually use enough water to make it porridge-like. More water increases its fillingness and dilutes the taste, making it less enjoyable. My whey-oatmeal is closer to cake in consistency instead of porridge. Oats can be used in baking also, in bread as a prime example.

I think a very watery cooked oatmeal would be a really good diet food due its fillingness. Oats can soak up a lot of water which can make a few hunder kcal worth be a decent-sized meal.

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>>40657332
400 calories worth of chocolate
>tfw never gonna make it

>>40663936
I ate when I wasn't hungry. I used to eat junk till i was absolutely stuffed out of boredom. My sis had just brought 2 hot pizzas with cinnamon sticks because her kids were hungry 2 hours ago. I hadn't cheat in a month.

>>40663891
>How quickly will my metabolism rate fall
According to studies on fasting metabolic slowdown doesn't even begin until around the third day of complete starvation. So you can probably be safe in believing that there will be no drop within the first three days of being in that deficit.

>How adverse will be the effect?
It varies. But the reduction in metabolic rate never equals the deficit. Reduction in other energy use, meaning physical activity, added with the reduction in BMR can negate the deficit. But if you're eating less calories than what your BMR is right now, then there's no way for the deficit to be completely negated.

>>40663936
Yes. I have all of those in my fridge right now.

>>40663851
cheap, easy to prepare and great with dozens of different things (protein powder, milk, banana is my fav)

>>40664269
So, basically, I should continue?

What about the muscle loss? Is it as bad as they say on the internet?

>>40664416
no, going from eating disorder into another will not work longtime for 95% of the people that try. Just eat normal healthy meals with a deficit of -500 or up to -30% of your tdee and your chances of longterm success are much better.

>>40664416
Not as bad. Eat tons of protein while lifting and you'll lose nothing probably. If you lift you'll probably grow a little bit. Muscle loss while cutting happens once you've built yourself beyond an untrained level. Even novice gains will atrophy away when you stop training (without going on a cut). But with an untrained body you have little to worry about.

>>40658197

Maybe not. But cheap bikes break under guys that weight around 100-110kgs (220-240 pounds). I know that myself because i've done it haha

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>losing weight but at an infuriatingly slow rate (1-2lbs a week)
i wish it didn't take so long considering i have so much to lose.

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>>40657332
It was a few weeks ago but pic related. The food that made me fat. I could eat this for every meal, everyday and never get sick of it.

>>40664455
Eating less is not really a problem; I don't get much cravings. I've been eating about ~1200 calories (maintenance calories being ~1700) for 16 days now. I was just worried about metabolic slowdown.

>>40664679
*maintenance calories being ~2700

>>40663608
I won't contribute to this statistic for you Anon.

>>40664621
Alter bist du 1 Nazi?

>>40664679
it is not so much cravings, rather that you are "dieting", instead of making a lifestyle change. Most people don't fail at losing weight in the first place, they rather regain it once they go back to their shitty old eating habits.
Also maintenance is 2700 not 1700 right?

>>40663915
Who the fuck has 1400 as target calorie goal.
Are you female, 12 yo and 3 foot tall?

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>>40664750

>>40664621
>>40664750
that looks a lot more like a cheesesteak than döner.

>>40664751
I think I'll be able to maintain around ~1500 calories in my lifestyle, because back then I used to eat fried foods and so I always ended up eating more... but if I only eat healthy stuff, I can still eat below 2000 calories and be full all day.

>Also maintenance is 2700 not 1700 right?
Yeah.

got drunk and had a pizza yesterday. sticking to 500 kcal today to try and make up for it. wish me luck lads

>>40664884
500 kilocalories?
Isn't that 500000 calories?

>>40664902
No, what you see on packages are actually kcals, but they're called cals for some reason.

>>40664902
no, kcal is the scientifically correct term, calories is the colloquial term.

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Why is there a General that contains you fat fucks? Just stop eating shitty foods, stop eating as much by a little and stop being sedentary. This shit is just a way for you to feel bad about your selves instead of actually doing anything about it.

>>40664902
they write kcal on the back of stuff here. do they put cal on packaging in america or something?

Do you actually take exact weight measurements of every meal for counting calories, or do you estimate?

>>40664943
Some dudes legit asked for advice and were drowned by the fatties consoling their excess by comparing themselves.

I feel bad for the fatties trying to make it and stuck with the ones who keep failing and saying that it's not so bad since others did it too.

I mean, how did you end up eating a pint of ice cream.

You have to put on your boots.
Your coat.
You grab your wallet.
You grab your keys.
You walk to the grocery (you aren't taking your car right?)
You walk to the ice cream aisle, at the far end of the grocery.
You skim the brands to find your ice cream of choice
You open the door.
You grab it.
You walk to the register.
You wait.
At EACH AND EVERY STEPS you could have thought "mmm I'm fat this isn't a good idea" but you didn't.

kys

>>40664998
taking all that time to write that
TRIGGERRED

>>40664993
since my scales broke i estimate. some people advocate weighing every single thing you eat, but for me it's fine to guess. i just make sure i put down more than it could have been, so at least i'm never underestimating.

Literally nobody in these threads is consoling anyone into not losing weight. The worst we get are the "m-much starvation mode!!" fatties. How do people read these threads and come to the conclusion it's a hugbox rather than people motivating each other to do better every day?

>>40665102
don't give a shit about anybody here 2bh
you're not children

if you make it, well done
if you don't, try harder

>>40665127
You're not being asked to care. You're the one who came to post in the thread, not the other way around.

>>40665179
so what's your problem?

>>40665188
I don't have a problem. I'm just wondering why you're posting in this thread in the first place.

>>40665221
to compare my progress

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>ate saltine crackers for dinner because i gave in and had a pizza for breakfast
never again

>>40657021
I hope he dies soon.

>>40665021
Yes I am triggered, I'm one of the fatties looking for advice. All I see is shit food eaten.

Stop complaining about shit food. Shit food is easy: eat healthy meal and then go shopping. Don't bring shit into your house. When in a crave, drink water.

Problem solved.

As you lose weight and the difference between your maintenance and your deficit decreases, do you feel less hungry?

>>40665299
that would make sense
at christmas I nearly passed out because I ate so much
landwhale me could have put even more away

>>40665299
Depends on how fat you were.

I know I busted my hunger signals because I'm always hungry and not hungry at the same time. Your stomach will retract a little over time, but your pancreas might still be fucked a little.

After years it should come back to normal, but don't expect change in 2 months.

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>>40663598
>tfw 242 and have had 2 meals over my calorie limit since october
>my lifting bro was a hungry skeleton
>never lifts always ditches me for alcohol
>still doesn't hit his calorie goal even with alcohol
>everyone here is half bragging about eating like shit and being a fat fuck

>>40665339
Hang in there, follow your diet and do your exercises. We're gonna make it.

>>40665339
Pls be in Three-Rivers.

>>40665371
nah m8, beaver falls.

>>40665339
>>tfw 242 and have had 2 meals over my calorie limit since october
11 since september
feel terrible about it
it's still 163 days on point, that's like what, 5%?
could be better

>>40665268
Seems fine though, at least you realized you had to stop eating for the day. Tomorrow all I'm going to eat is a pizza too, as long as it's planned it's okay

Don't starve yourselves, fellow porkies. Make a lifestyle change that you can stay on for the rest of your lives. I've been journaling my food (without even tracking calories) and I've been losing weight just by making an effort to eat healthier.

>>40665706
Eating healthier won't make you lose weight if you use it as an excuse to eat 3 times more though. I'd still recommend calorie and macro tracking.

>>40664807
Because it is lol

It's crazy how many calories you cut just by cutting out soda. I think if I avoided soda earlier in life, I'd be about 100 pounds thinner than I am now.

>>40657332
> Big double chocolate muffin
> Tbsp of peanut butter
> Handful of caramel popcorn
> Big mug of white hot chocolate made with whole milk

Then I had an angry depression nap

> Woke up
> Family dinner I can't get out of, pre existing commitment
> Huge bowl of homemade curry. No way to calculate calories

> Later in the evening have one and a half (big) white chocolate macadamia cookies and another handful of caramel corn
> Just about manage to stop myself from going to bed with a chocolate bar. Put the chocolate back at the last second but had an awful fucking night

I hate myself and I want to die

>tell people how fat I used to be
>nobody believes me
what's the point if I can't brag?

>>40665706
t. went from 360 to 320 in only a year

>>40665850
> Huge bowl of homemade curry. No way to calculate calories

Jealous, curry is my favorite food, I really need to learn to make it.

Over time you should be able to estimate a meal without knowing the exact kcals. A plate of curry/rice would probably be like 700~ kcals, give or take 200 depending on size.

>>40665850
calories is more often than not just volume

>>40665886
Where are the photos?

>>40665850
You are a disgrace. Try harder and you better not cheat again for a month or you'll never make it. Think of all the progress you just wasted, it'll take you an extra 2 weeks to get back to where you were, and that's another 2 weeks of being a fatass. Don't give up though or that's even worse.

>>40665850
You fat piece of shit

>>40665911
funnily enough, I never wanted to take photos of myself when I was a blob

>>40665971
Is it a form of autism or what? I have this too and I swear I have taken photos of myself only 10 in the last six years, 0 if we don't count the ones I was forced to take in some occasion. Funnily enough even in the complexive three months I've been normal weight in the same time period I stil remained autistic about it.

>>40665850
>>I want to die


Keep going like you are and it will be sooner than later mate.

>>40658803
I used to eat larges on the regular. now, couple of slices in and I start feeling nauseous

>>40666024
You just know you look like shit

>>40666042
it's certainly put me off pizza for a while

>>40665808
is it americans who have a problem with soda?

over here we just don't seem to drink that much of it (still fat).

Is it really just calories in calories out? Like for example, if you're calorie limit was 2000 and you ate 2000 worth of McDonald's or something else that's generally considered bad, you would lose weight? Asking because I had a BLT club on wheat and some fries earlier and can't help but feel it was a cheat meal even though my tracker says it's around 1200 in calories.

>>40666132
Yes, it boils down to kcals out > kcals in. Getting good macros is important too

BLT club with fries isn't even that bad man. I fit that stuff into my diet easily.

Sugar is the real problem, super calorie dense, addictive, put in everything, no nutritional value, doesn't fill you up.

>>40666044
Might be the right answer. Now that I think about it being fat kind of put the perspective of just being ugly out of the picture.

>>40666132
in essence, yes. but 2000 calories of mcdonalds wouldn't be very much food, and it wouldn't fill you up - odds are you'd end up binging later that day.

i've heard that keeping your fat intake low can be beneficial, but i don't know if this actually directly aids weight loss or if it's just because it'll lower the calories of what you're eating.

>>40659322
you have to keep losing weight senpai, some people lose weight form certain parts of the body first, for example i have lost like 8 kilograms and my love handles have reduced just a little bit, however mi legs, tiddies and arms fat have reduced a lot, just keep going my dude, you're gonna make it

>>40666187
4 big macs is 2000 calories. I don't think i could eat 4 big macs a day. It really only is not much food if you want to eat a menu with fries and coke.

>>40666219
i was thinking about the meals. do people just eat big macs?

>>40666311
you don't need fries and water is fine

>>40666311
I eat fastfood once every 4-6 weeks, and if i choose to go to mcdonalds i buy just 1 big mac, i don't even consider it a cheat meal as i plan for it and don't exceed my calories.

anime is for faggots

>>40658093
>>40660821
Fallen angels...

>>40666311
Soda is the real problem. People get a fucking huge ass cup and they end up drinking several hundred kcals. Burger/fries isn't the worst thing in the world every now and then.

Mcds has probably the best fastfood coffee, I always get a black coffee with my meal.

Former 265lb fatass, now 183lb, still fat, but loosing weight much slower. What can you advice to read about human physiology, some books or articles? How to obtain knowledges about nutrition to be able to build my own diet plans?

>>40666396
>>40666330
fair enough. i don't go there at all, didn't really think of it like that.

>>40666511
yeah fizzy drinks especially just don't fill you up at all.

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>>40666448
Never gonna make it.

>>40664584
Unless you're a megafatfuck (300-400+ pounds) that's a totally fine rate of weight loss

>>40657332
loads of potatoes in oven with carrot and leaf-beef.

>>40666866
Fuck potatoes are my favourite food you remembered me how much I miss them.

>>40666552
How long did it take you to get to 183?

I've been on a calorie deficit since I started going to the gym, why have my muscles gotten better? I thought the best you could do was mantain your muscle mass while cutting.

>>40665748
That's true. I don't use eating healthier as an excuse to eat more, but I have a surge of willpower when I journal my food intake for some reason. I tried counting calories, but my family cooks so often that it was darn near impossible. But I've stuck to my food journal now for a year and a half and I've been constantly losing weight and getting stronger. When I try and starve myself I always gain weight. When I eat in moderation I do well.

>>40667094
more prominent because of less fat

>>40667120
But I lift a bit more compared to when I started. Maybe is it just because my muscles are somewhat in shape after not having lifted once in my life and they'll stop there?

>>40662905
But really cheap shit for now, like bargain bin stuff or charity shops

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>>40667187
>tfw dream of being able to shop for clothes at normal sizes and not big and tall

>>40667176
It's because you learn to be more efficient with what you have. You "learned" how to contract, what to contract, etc.

It's kind of the Bruce Lee saying, "I don't fear the man who practiced 500 kicks, but I fear the man who practiced a kick 500 times" or something like that. Complex motions become effortless once repeated enough times.

>>40658135
They did answer your question, you fat piece of shit

>>40667199
I only ever needed large thank fuck, turned shit around at 228lbs or so, and now below 200, so the large clothes are beginning to get pretty baggy on me.

>>40667176
you can increase strength on a cut.

>>40667094
Noob gains, if you never lifted before you will gain a little initially.

>>40667226
How is it possible if you're on a deficit? I'm genuinely asking.
>>40667231
So basically pity gains. Nice.

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>>40664943
>This shit is just a way for you to feel bad about your selves instead of actually doing anything about it.

I've been looking at these threads for a short while and I don't feel this is the dominant content here. Maybe I'm biased because I respond to posts asking about things related to unfattening one's self and I'm selectively remembering those.

>>40665339
Dem genetics. But seriously, people are born with different brains containing different inclinations. Fattyness is very likely a combination of genetic and perhaps some learned psychological inclinations and a suitable environment that enables those inclinations to bear fat. Regardless, if any fatty were kidnapped and tortured with starvation, they'd lose weight. Biology isn't the obstacle.

I imagine that the obstacle to weight loss can be that, when a in certain environment, the free will of the fatty enslaves them to a certain behaviour from which they are unable to break free as long as they have their freedom to choose what action to take and they remain in that environment. It's likely that they won't choose to radically change their situation: the people they associate with, where they live and how they spend their time. Being forcibly put into a situation where even with their inclinations they'd be unable to eat enough to stay fat would solve the problem but that's unlikely too and probably illegal.

I believe that, barring a u-turn in our culture of allowing everyone to choose for themselves no matter how bad their choices seem, some fatties are doomed to stay fat not because of biology but psychology and circumstances. I think there aren't many of those in these threads. They're probably more at home in /r9k/ which is the real hugbox.

>>40665706
>>40667102

I think journaling your eating has an effect of making you feel more accountable. I also experienced when I started lifting and counting calories. I felt that I didn't want to sully the purity of my food diary by records of shitty eating. I felt I didn't want to disappoint my records. This is probably more effective on those who have a bit of autism for accounting. it requires being autistic about recording everything; not allowing yourself to leave something out even if it's disappointing. And also feeling an autistic pride when you see a pristine record of data repeating with no blanks or failures to be seen.

Or maybe that's not such an autistic thing. Looking at your journal and seeing a long line of records of you succeeding at the thing you want to achieve definitely feels good. Seeing records of your failures in the past gives you guilt long after they happened and not just when you make the mistakes.The act of journaling creates emotional incentives that give you greater willpower in making better eating choices.

Probably the user interface matters here. A notebook where you won't often look at the previous pages may not work as well whereas a spreadsheet that displays data from far back every time you add something seems more effective.

>>40666448
/deutsch/ RAUS

>>40667273
There are studies of both trained and untrained people gaining lean body mass while in a deficit. It's one of the biggest bro myths around that you cant can muscle in a deficit.

>>40660720
no stop now i really want some

>>40658131
I eat tic tacs to ease the cravings for things. Just suck em, they are only 1.9 cals a piece