>just lift brah height face frame and taint don't matter

>>40617122
Not everyone is 0.01% genetically gifted.

You should base yourself on your own attributes and character. Lifting is a good trait for any height.

Sexual attraction is all about FACE, HEIGHT, and FRAME. If you do not have these you should spend your time MAKING MONEY to be a provider for an attractive girl that wants to settle down, NOT wasting hours in the gym making up for shitty genetics. AT LEAST use steroids to save some time

Your options are settle with an unattractive girl, or convince an attractive girl with money

>>40617384
I feel like the correct order is:
>height
>frame
>face

most women will settle for an uglier guy if he is big. whereas i see a lot of good looking manlets with no hope (why they go into acting for example).

P I Z Z A

ITT a bunch of sexless man children will debate what women want

And implying roids and gains will help you without social skills and confidence.

>>40619143
I'm 6'4", casual lifter physique, was on a rowing team in uni. I score, but also get rejected all the time due to poor social skills and neediness. If this is swimming in pussy master race height you're delusional.

You're just correlating yourself being a kissless manlet as ONLY unsuccessful because of height. You have deep personal flaws helping you fail, like getting advice here.

>>40619143

obviously they're all important, but if you had to choose one to be exceptional, with the other 2 being abysmal, face would win out more than height or frame. A 5'6 guy with a model face will be able to score more than a 6'4 guy with an ogre face, imo

>>40617384

>he doesn't know how the gym works
>thinks it takes hours when it takes one hour
>can't manage his time to make money and go to the gym
>not gonna make it

>>40619207
Me again, and my 5'2" climberbro friend with perfect physique scores with women I see in porn.

Height is over fucking rated. It means nothing without work. It's a shitty excuse for limp dick slack jawed faggots like you

>>40619143
No, no.
What matters is:
Personality (yep) > Face > Height > Frame

And, yeah, women care A LOT about personality. For example, they don't like needy guys or wimpy guys.

>>40617122
>Implying that guy on the left doesn't get laid

So he doesn't pull girls left and right like the big dude? That's OK. Not everyone has to be a pussy Slayer. It's not that great anyways, after a while it's not that exciting anymore.

Just do what you can with what you have and stop worrying about shit you can't change. While big fella is out banging chicks, dude on the left could be making money or progressing in his career.

t. 28 year old 6'4" 210lbs Chad that is over banging new women every week and is now behind the curve because too much fucking and partying

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>tfw these plebs have never seen RSD Tyler

First thing people notice about you is what you look like.
Tall,wide strong-looking men have always been attractive and probably always will be
Game only get you so far,being built right helps a bunch but desu famalam

Its

>Height
>Face
>Hair
>Style
>Mass

In that order

>>40619240
THIS

Neediness is broad repellant

>>40619240
>personality is #1

Delusional but also true to the extent that you have to accept pussy to get pussy.
If you're a non-verbal autist version of Brad Pitt, sure you'd have plenty of chances to have sex but you would be too autistic to do anything with those chances.

So it's more like
neurotypical/no mental disorders > face > money>>>

>>40619229

>thinks it takes hours when it takes one hour

>3 times a week
>1 hour a workout
>3 hours a week/52 weeks a year
>156 hours in 1 year alone
>300 hours minimum at least just to look decent

and thats only the MINIMUM. Not including people who lift more than 3 times a week or more than 1 hour a workout

>can't manage his time to make money and go to the gym

not the point, if you spent those 300 hours that you used picking up metal bars on a trade, business, or studying, you would be much better in the long run, based on your goal of attracting a partner (more people on this board)

>>40619273

Agreed. You can charm a girl to bed.

>>40619290

But I am studying, senpai. My hobbies are gym and programming and I'm studying engineering.

>>40619273
Look, appearance comes first as in "it's what people see/know first". But personality is in the top since it can be a repellent.
Your looks are good but your personality repels a girl? You lose the girl.
Your looks aren't good but your personality attracts the girl? You get the girl.

Personality is far more important.

>>40619254

This is just retarded. If height was all that mattered then people with gigantism would be the biggest slayers on Earth lmao.

A 5'6" with a 10/10 face would outslay any dude that's fucking tall like Manute Bol or the GoT guy or whoever you worship. The taller you get, the more ugly and defrormed you generally are

>>40619240

>Personality (yep) > Face > Height > Frame

The only people that believe this are unattractive people. Im attractive and I can say that personality does NOT matter. I say the dumbest and most abhorrent shit to girls, like 4chan autism type of shit, and they still beg for my dick. You just don't understand, if you're attractive enough you CAN'T have a "bad personality" unless you literally schizo or something. You can do the most awkward shit and girls just won't get phased by it. The "you do it and they call the police" shit isn't a meme, I could see personality swaying a girl if she is like 48-52 into you, but girls make up their minds about you the SECOND they see you. Again, im speaking from experience, and im sure other attractive people have experienced similar things

>>40619273
It takes a surprising amount if work to honestly express your desire in a woman without fucking up. You either never tried it or are so average they never noticed anything about you.

OK, fine. Here's brad Pitt and a normie with a fupa. The brad mouth breathes, mutters, can't look her in the eye, tries to insult her hair then insists that he buys her a drink, cause he always buys women stuff. The Normie walks right up to her and says "hey I thought you were very attractive and wanted to say hi". Which will bang?

This whole height weight muscles mentality is facetious because you think women are turned on like men. They're not. Else Twilight and fifty shades would be about Ahnuld. Pull your head out of your ass, stop making excuses for your shortness. You're all worse than fatties.

>>40617122
Lol... that nose though.

>>40619333
And people believe this.

Do those girls you say shit to take cash or bitcoin?

>>40619418

>And people believe this.

stay delusional, my ugly friend. Im so sorry about the hand you were dealt, try to make the best out of it, whether that is surgery, making money, or """personality""". Its so clear by your post alone. You've never been admired by a female enough for them to not give a shit if you say dumb stuff, and I feel sorry for you

It never seizes to amaze me, all these slayers on a self-improcement forum. Do you know what I would do if I were Chris Pratt-tier?

Enjoy life. And have copious sex.

Do you think for even a second a "slayer" tier man that has infinite success with women has ANY need to impress anoymous men?

We just established that insecurity is literally poison to attraction. The fact that you need to come and beat your chest proves you anything but a slayer. You're an imitation of a chad, at best

>>40619333
>personality does NOT matter

How attractive are you exactly? Can you post a timestamped pic of yourself?
Because I've seen attractive guys being rejected for being betas or talking shit and being off-putting to girls.

>>40619290

Do you have any idea how much time women spend on makeup and hair.

>>40619512
His negging prob worked on some 3/10 Sloppy club slut, so he thinks he can alpha any broad.

Go on slayer. Pics or gtfo. Or are you going off shit you saw on YouTube?

>>40619495

>slayer
>chad

why are you acting as if these are different species from us? That they don't live on the same planet as you and I? Nobody is "beating their chest", somebody claimed that personality was more important in attracting girls than face frame or height, and people posted their arguments otherwise. You're like that guy that always tries to make it psychological, "duuude, you're only like saying that because you're insecure"

>>40619581
That's my point "dude", an insecure fitbro is less attractive than a confident average guy, at any height.

>>40619333
Only women I've met that didn't care one bit about personality were single mothers looking for a shag, club goers looking for a shag, older women looking for a shag. Basically, sluts.

>>40617122
99% of women would choose the manlet on the left. They wouldn't have the confidence/would be too afraid of being cheated on to be in a relationship with a real chad.

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desu this girl has a boyfriend and I tried to make her go away as much as possible

I fucked her and all I said was 4chan memes


why are women so easy lads

I'm 6'2" quite attractive face but that's about it

>inb4post face
ok but I am not guaranteeing I am attractive I just think I am from what other people tell me ok pls don't shit on me when I do

>>40619768
So you fucked a girl, NOW you say some 4chan memes to her and you think you're the shit?

KEK

>>40619791
no I said some 4chan memes to her before

she persisted so I fucked her

gee wiz loser get a grip!

>>40619820
Pics of you and girl.

Any meet can score a hippo if they lower their standards enough.

Also ree as proof of autism. Ask a girl if she wants to see your egg laying bad dragon dildo and we'll talk. Tell her about George Coonslayer Zimmerman and we'll see

>>40619768
>>40619820
Grill without face is meaningless. A successful man will reject women he isn't into. Not meme them.

The fact that you're not bragging about how hot she was means she was not hot at all.

>>40619240
MAJOR COPE

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>>40619878
>>40619928
no pics of me and girl, I literally met her the other day, shes my friends girlfriend

she's about a 7/10, face is decent prob due to make up but idc about that, good teeth, nothing out of ordinary you know looks nice, her body is nice af, big boobies and nice ass

I don't have any pics but I'm a very picky person

this is me tho, not photogenic and not posing but eh excuses n shieet

>>40619878
>>40619928

why are yall so cringe? Is it really that hard to believe attractive people have more leeway than unattractive people?

http://thoughtcatalog.com/clint-conway/2017/03/this-guy-made-a-fake-tinder-profile-to-prove-that-girls-never-think-hot-dudes-are-creepy/

>>40619964
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>40619964
Untermensch confirmed

>>40619993
what did he mean by this

>>40619990
desu I look really shitty in pictures :/ swear I'm not this ugly irl

>>40619972
Leeway is one thing, no one is denying attractive people get away with things.
A catcall by an attractive guy is nice, but by an ugly guy is not.

>>40619964
Nice pubes under your nose

Junior year high school, slayer?

>>40619964
you look fine, just shave

>>40620022
I'm DEFINITELY (read between the lines) over 18...

>slayer
sarcastic or what
I know I look like shit in pics, it runs through my family, but my mum looks like a literal model irl

>>40619964
You're in High School. Your friend got a slut as girlfriend. You're both hooking up behind his back.
Explains your mentality, why you think you're attractive because you hooked up with one girl and why you use 4chan lingo IRL.

I mean, jeez, I expected some actual attractive Chad, not a high school kid.

>>40619972
>i'm talking about personality
>quotes tinder

>>40620048
Man now I feel bad sassing a minor.

You are an idiot though. If you dont believe me, go and approach a grill in an art gallery, a bus stop, or hell, a gym.

Don't worry about looks though, teenage blues pass.

>>40620058

so you know,

>>40619964

is not

>>40619333

I stand 100% by my post, and im convinced that the only people that actually think personality is more important in attracting females than face, height, or frame, is UNATTRACTIVE. If you respond to this post in disbelief, passive aggression, or with anger, you are UNATTRACTIVE.

here's an example just from yesterday

>yell at girl at work
>say fucked up shit in the moment
>later tell her I overreacted
>she says its completely fine, she understands, and randomly goes in for a tight ass hug

keep in mind this wasn't your 6/10 oneitis, it was an actual attractive female

>>40620151
I know I'm an idiot pal you didn't need to tell me that

my country doesn't take kindly to approaching random people by the way

anon I look rlly good in the mirror I swear, and people irl they compliment me

I just look extremely shit in pictures, like my face looks uneven, my eyebrows look shorter/smaller etc, my eyes become uneven as well

I guess I naturally have an uneven face but with a picture it becomes extremely transparent and is much different than to what it looks like irl...

>>40620058
I was trying to get her to fuck off because I didn't want to beef with this guy that's why I was using 4chan lingo, as a type of repellent

in the end it doesn't even matter

>>40619252
He just pressures girls and charms them for one night. no girl would actually want to take a picture with him or show him off to their parents

>>40619252
>believing in PUA
>the current year being 2017

shiggydiggy

>>40619964
>that puberty stache

kek

not bad otherwise, needs more neck and traps + beard/good haircut, you'll be golden

t. pencil neck beardlet

>>40619229

>1 hour working out

dyel detected

unless you do 1 hour every day, which is like 2 hours three times a week

also you waste a lot of hours going to the gym, going back, showering and eating

>>40619333

This guy is right

>but girls make up their minds about you the SECOND they see you.

This is totally right

>>40619629

You are delusional as fuck, probably have tons of female friends right? lmao

>>40619236
>Height is over fucking rated.

1. Go on tinder.
2. Check the bio of girls and see how many say "must be over 6, etc"
3. Realize you're a projecting manlet.

Girls like height a lot it's one of the few easily measurable metrics of attractiveness. There is no exact metric for frame and face as there is for height.

>>40617384
>provider

ayy lmao, I'll rather fap alone

>>40621224
not that many, actually

also, I would not trust that it's as simple as just counting all the profiles that state a requirement for height, ignoring all of the possible numerous different reasons a person would write something like that to their profile, and start making assumptions on it that really give much information at all.

Height is nice, like good facial features. But nowhere in the real world do people seem to care about height nearly as much as they do on 4chan

>>40621224
5'8" here and let me tell you some thing you piece of fucking shit.

I'm handsome as fuck and have a babyface that allows me to pull easy teen pussy because of it. You should see some of the tight little bodies I've fucked. I have a 7.5in dick and not a single girl I have ever banged has failed to text/call me for a bootycall late at night. I embrace any challenge I get from someone who tries to stand in my face and intimidate me with their height, because it's pathetic. Low center of gravity, fast reflexes, and ridiculous core strength will allow me to either 1) quickly take you to the ground where I will stomp your fat face or 2) out last you with endurance because your shitty, overweight frame required to ground that extra height made you more tired. I make 85k a year as an mid-level engineering manager at Ford (I'm 23 btw, they will most likely promote me to upper management within the next 2-3 years). I fuck shit up in every single sport and would destroy any of you (minus basketball where skill/talent is substituted out for height). I've been compared to Messi in my soccer style. Quick dribbling and cutting in between every opponent in front of me. I scored 95 goals throughout my high school varsity soccer career. I made the varsity football team freshman year as starting runningback but soccer and football were the same season so I couldn't dominate both.

Sports I would destroy you at in order

Soccer
Football
E-sports
Baseball
Endurance running
Tennis
Golf
Footgolf
Ping Pong
others

I know you. Ugly is a given. Probably curly hair. Tried to grow a beard but it was patchy and you were sad for awhile about that. Struggling to find a way to validate yourself you took to reminding everyone how you're "Over 6 feet tall!", as if that was some sort of cutoff for being a man. When in reality you're just as pathetic as every other self-hating wannabe piece of shit out there, yet you have somehow convinced yourself you've won the genetic lottery.

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>>40621537
is this a copypasta?

>>40619143
Height is way lower, it's basically just be taller than them by more than 4 inches.

>>40619964

hahah you are 5/10

>>40617122
Guy on the right is gay.

>>40617122
>K_vs_r_selective.jpg

>>40621554
Ha, you fucking wish you goddamed loser. You just got BTFO and the only thing you can do is spout off your meme response of "c-copypasta!!" because you know that in the real world I would fuck you up until all you knew was down.

>>40619964
>)
stop

this is a troll

stop

bro u are not shit. and you deserve your a beating for fucking your "friends" girl

>When all you want to do is fuck cute soccer moms

>>40621579

Unless you're a foot taller than them
Then it shoots up to top tier.

>>40617384
>>40619143

What if I have Height and Frame, but not Face?
(and I have poor social skills)

No matter how much I lift, I don't think it'll help.
I have a solid jaw, but my face isnt symmetrical, my nose is too wide, and my mouth slants.

:(

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>>40617122
would you rather be ugly with a shit body or ugly with a good body?

Also, getting fit improves your face

>>40619964
you look like a chicano mongrel

disgusting

>>40617122
>taint

>>40619373
That nose is too perfect

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>>40619252

>>40619143
I'm 5"8' and have a better track record with women than most of my mates, one friend of mine is shorter than me by a couple inches or so (I'm guessing) and he fucks a different girl every weekend he's a fucking animal and they're all hot as hell

Just thought I'd throw my anecdote in there

if this isn't shopped that guy on right must be 7 feet tall or the guy on the left is 5 feet flat.

>>40622987
actually the guy on the right is 6'0 and the guy on the left is 5'11.999...

>>40619252
I paid 80 bucks for an hour of live coaching with a pua. He was 6" 3 and very handsome, makes me wonder if that was the only reason for his success.

>>40621537
kek

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>>40621537
is.... is this real?

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>>40622995
MANLET CUTOFF

>>40621537
Hahaha calm down man, why are you so angry?

A guy of your caliber shouldn't even be on this website. Why don't you fuck off with your superior life and leave us losers alone? You're making us all depressed

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>>40622995

>>40617122

Implying 2017 is not the year of the manlet... kek

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>>40621537

Is this fresh copypasta?

>>40619143

The correct order is

>Timing
>Social skills
>Looks

Right place at the right time with some good game and some looks is all it takes. Fucking virgin.

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>>40621537
lmao

saved

>>40619964
>>>>>these are the people calling you DYEL on /fit/
>>>>>these are the people posting "brap" on /fit/
>>>>>these are the people making alpha threads and mire threads and "bad side of making it" threads on /fit/

>>40619373
What's wrong with it? It's a masculine nose, I suppose you have one of those flat nigger noses.

>>40621537
>E-sports

>>40621537
>Endurance running
because your little 5'8 legs can beat anyone in a race

>>40623773
CAN'T*
FUCK

6'3
fit
good face
great hair

only thing is you have to actually approach girls and worst of all TALK to them and be social.

everytime ive fucked girls they were the ones to approach me.

im just a beta stuck in a chads body

Height > Face >>> Frame

>>40623801
i have a friend whos extremely good looking, and its suprising how insecure he is.

meanwhile some 5'2 pizzafaced nerd is approaching every pussy he sees

Money/Status > Face > Height > Frame

>>40619512
>>40619579
ANON CALLED OUT

>>40619143
jesus you guys still haven't figured it out
wallet=face>height=frame

>>40621224
>Go on tinder
>Implying you don't lie through your fucking teeth to these women and watch them not give a fuck when you're fucking them

Girls claim to like a lot of things. Girls think they're also entitled to a lot of shit. Truth is when the time comes a lot of them can't remember what their standards were when you've charmed them and the dick is in their mouth.

Guys let me redpill you real quick. The reason Chads are quite rare amongst the common folk is that there isnt any 1 trait that makes you Chad.

There isn't any order to height, face frame. It's a holy trinity. Lack one, and the bond is broken. The other two can never make up for missing out on the third.

>>40617122
So who is this tall stud. I would like to find more pics of he.

>>40623858
most accurate in this thread. but in term of pure SEXUAL attraction, I think that face/height/frame are all more or less equal, provided none are on either the extreme high or low end of the spectrum

A 5'6 manlet with a perfect V shape will never be more attractice than a 6'2 lanklet.

a 5'9 guy with a model tier face may or may not be more attractive than an average looking 6'1 guy.

when money and status are involved, everything is up in the air

>>40619240
sureee, mby 10 years ago:
newsflash honey
its 2000 fucking 17 - everyone knows that you can't be too needy or wimpy

>>40621537
nice pasta

also bw iccup lets go, lets see who will destroy who xD

>>40620185
>I didn't want to beef with this guy
after fucking her

kek what a legit coward. I bet you don't even care about the upcoming race war

>>40619252
>>40620265
>>40620720
>>40622694
>If you're not an 9+ just give up you lazy beta males
https://youtu.be/G2H9o6z1oKU?t=2m26s

>>40617122
Why is this board so self-defeating? Fuck's sake stop putting yourself down. You can get the body of the guy on the right within a year or two but it will require some hardcore dedication and volume on your part, not that 5x5 shit.

Fuck it man, you will get the girl of your dreams one day. Stop crying yourself to sleep and stop feeling inferior to others. Now go and start winning.

>>40619252
>not knowing that more or less all PUA videos are fake

>>40619143
height importance heavily decrease once you're 5'9 and above

>>40617384
>thinking that roids are some magic bullet
Blaha was on roids. It's not the steroids that is giving them the results, it's the training and their desire to push themselves.

>>40619143
>people unironically believe in the /fit/ height meme this much.

Do you honestly believe that a woman is going to prefer a 5/10 6'3 guy over a 9/10 5'10 guy. You're autistic

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>>40626222
>It's a holy trinity
How the fuck did you all miss this gospel truth?

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fucking pussies, this is the only acceptable one

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>>40619964
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

Manlets, when will they learn?

>>40621537
Classic napoleon complex.

>>40621537
>how to expose newfags

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Just be yourself

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JUST B YOURSELF AND PEOPLE WILL RESPECT YOU

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IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD NOT PRECONCEPTIONS PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE LOL

>>40617384
>If you do not have these you should spend your time MAKING MONEY

Uh, making money should be your number one priority regardless of how you look. There is nothing on the this planet more important than making money.

Height matters a lot to girls in relationships and later when they want to settle down. Short guys will lose their looks and then all women will see is short children and a man unable to provide physical security.

On average shorter men have less sexual partners, divorce more often and are more likely to commit suicide. Life is unfair, but if you're under 5'9 that's the hand you're dealt. You might not feel i t when you're young, but as you get older women start knowing exactly what they want, and they reject based on height instantly. Because it's bad genetics. Same with balding men, men with weak jawlines, narrow shoulders, and so on.

>>40628203
>>40628217

These are less about size than the fact the big dude looks like a cro-magnon hooligan. Try it again with a less violent looking tall guy and he will probably get called out more. Or have the manlet standing in a more aggressive manner. Probably have the same effect.

It's almost like someone was constructing a narrative for entertainment or something. HINT FUCKING HINT.

>>40619240
If a guy is needy/clingy it's an instant turn off for her.

You have to make her think that you think she's disposable and that you wouldn't mind if she left.