At what stage should you incorporate dips and pullups into

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Nigger, do them whenever the fuck you want. Why do you need your hand held for something so fucking simple?

>>40528065
I've tried and failed

>>40528116
So keep trying until you succeed. No other exercise is going to advance you in pullups except pullups.

>>40528047
Always. Pull ups are the most important exercise.

pulldowns can be done until you're strong enough for pull ups

both asap try every day til u manage

if you can't do 10 full range of motion pull ups without kipping you are fat

>>40528116
its a different skill, do negatives of dips and pullups until you can do the whole thing

i notice knight/crusader posters tend to be complete beginners or always asking newfag questions

Dips impede shoulder recovery time so if you care about bench and ohp gains I wouldnt do em. Pullups are fucking great, do em every day or whenever. They're a good warmup.

>>40529574
This fucking feel

All the 2/3/4/5s in the world don't make me feel like less of a fat shit