High frequency routines don't matter if your not actually

>>40269560
You can't expect a lot from eating below or just at maintenance.

>>40269944

just do upper lower split 7 days a week

you're 100% right

you need to really butt fuck your muscle fibers for natty growth

Just get in the gym and do it.

you can damage those fibers 3.5 times a week, allow 48 hours to heal, do it again

>>40269560
>Ian does Upper/Upper/Lower/Repeat and he still doesn't ever grow.

Ian did Upper/Lower/Upper/Lower and recently changed to something else.

You say he doesn't ever grow? Look at pictures of him from 8 months ago and he looks like nothing. Very recently he changed his routine and got to where he is now in a matter of months.

I did a FB every other day (3 sets per bodypart per session) and I actually got smaller than I was when I just trained 20-30 sets per muscle group once a week on a normie brosplit.

>>40269560

i dont understand what you are saying. you talk about bro-split but then say you are wasting time because you only train once in a week.

curlbros do bro-splits and they train biceps 5+ times a week. thats why they are big because they really fuck destroy the muscle.

>>40270187
Depends on the FB. Sheiko-style FB is good, 5x5 "FB" sucks.

>>40270347
Wendler is essentially a bro-split where you have legs, chest, back, shoulders. You can get away with training the bigger muscles once per week and you can do arms on all of the days because they recover fast.

who is that dyel 0traps in the image?

>>40270642
What does Sheiko-style FB look like?

>>40270871
Here's an example:
Squat 1x5 60%, 2x5 65%, 4x3 70%, 2x3 75%, 6x3 80%
Bench 1x8 50%, 2x5 60%, 2x5 65%, 4x3 70%, 2x3 75%, 6x3 80%
Squat 3x5 60%, 2x5 65%, 5x5 75%
Dumbell Fly 3x10
Abs 3x10

Lot's of work basically.

>>40271100
yeah..ill still to my bro split

>>40271143
You do Sheiko if you want to become good at powerlifting. The workouts last 2 hours and at a certain point become obnoxious.

I fucking hate how much anecdotal evidence is thrown around as "proof"

>>40271271
all of his videos are literally science based, actual research papers and study that has been done and he usually links sources.

>>40271703
And what are the results of his science-based training?

>>40271703
Yet he still looks like shit after how many years of lifting? 8?

>>40271772

He looks good for a natty

Genetics and/or juice > all else

>>40271777
No offense but after EIGHT FUCKING years, if these are your results you clearly don't know what you are doing.

>>40271794
If you think average lean natties can go beyond that you're either a newbie or a retarded brainwashed by the supplement companies.

>>40269560
>Pic related: Ian does Upper/Upper/Lower/Repeat and he still doesn't ever grow.

That's because he is not eating.

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Yet he still has a qt GF

u mad

>>40271985
Yeah his GF is a keeper. They married now?

>>40269560
Are you trying to tell me you are big
>acts like an expert
Dude I'm as big as you and I'm a hard gainer who has been lifting for 3 months, you aren't impressive.

>>40271794
The first three are the only ones that matter

>>40271985
What does that have to do with his credibility of a fitness "expert"?

>>40272223
Do you understand how retarded this is?

>>40269560
HOW THE FUCK DID HE TAKE THIS PICTURE!?!?!1?!211!

>>40272227

u mad

>>40272285
I couldn't care less about his personal life.

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>bro-splits
>not high frequency
>upper/upper/lower
>not a bro split
what the fuck are you TALKING about bro

>>40269944
This, dont sacrifice healthy diet for more excercise

>>40271985
who is that dapper gentleman?

>>40269560
Why do people give this guy so much credibility?

Seriously, what are his credentials?

He looks the same as if he's always looked.

>>40271985
>qt
>fridge mode
lmfaoo