Okay, what the fuck. Stronglifts says bar should be over mi

>>40190221
Neither one is correct because everybody's different and what works for some might not work for all. If it helps, I prefer Alan Thrall's method, but just do whatever works for you.

>>40190244
I think I prefer bar over mid-foot during setup, as I feel more stable, plus I have really tight hamstrings that I'm working on and they're not nearly so tight when the bar is mid-foot. Should help keep my lower back from rounding, like it currently can during the bottom of my squats (butt-wink, again due to tight hamstrings), right?

every person has different measurements (torso, arm, leg length, etc.) so you have to find the form that works for your body type not what someone else is using

>>40190262
What are you doing for your hamstrings and how much has it helped?

>>40190330

Stretching the hams, quads, hip flexors, glutes, calves (ankles) and lats, 1-2 times a day, first in the morning when I wake up and then after lifting (I prefer evenings). Variety of conventional stretches and slight yoga stuff, holding for about a minute each.

Yes it's helped a shitload, but I've a ways to go.

>>40190349
Thanks. I'm only just starting to loosen my muscles from bad posture and sitting too much.

>>40190450

Same, years of videogames and being on my feet with no real inbetween have FUCKED my hamstrings. Don't just stretch the hams, try to stretch them and everything around them. I don't know if you have anterior/posterior hip tilt, long/short femurs, tight ankles, etc etc etc, so your needs will be different from mine, but don't just do ham stretches and forget about lunges and such.

>>40190493
Yeah, I've been doing yoga with adriene's yoga camp, but I can tell that my hamstrings and hips are especially tight. Also have APT.

>>40190524

Sorry, but what's APT?

Also, no matter how much I beat my head against forms and schools of thought and read books, sometimes I just can't figure some stuff out. That's when it's time to ask a friend who lifts that you trust or hire a session with a PT you trust. Why risk the injury (which I've had, and is as crippling and life-draining as it's made out to be)

>>40190553
Anterior pelvic tilt. Affects people who spend a lot of time sitting down

Most people try to get perfect form...if you want perfect form just squat lower and always look forward at the mirror. Squatting lower to get the bar fixes most rounded backs because retards try to reach and pick up

A safe way of doing rows is to get in a deadlift stance and just rowing to your lower abs. This type of row will also have the most carryover to a real deadlift.

I do mid foot, lats enaged, back neutral.

If you engage your lats it will help correct your form

>>40190493
All you need to stretch out the hams is high rep RLDs.