>TDEE is 2,700 >No possible way I eat over 2,000 a day

Count the calories of everything you eat one day. You didn't just magically violate the laws of entropy and get fat without eating more energy than you expend

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>>40163459
>No possible way I eat over 2000 a day
This is what all people who don't count calories say. For real, once you start to ACCURATELY count calories, you will see that you eat a lot more than you thought

>>40163499
I barely ever move so maybe that's it. I have calorie counted for months and easily kept it under 1,700

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>>40163505
I counted calories for months.

>>40163506
This just isn't true. You're lying.

Post an average day of food. You're counting something wrong.

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Already did the leg,back,and arms days should i go again?

>>40163564
first breakfast: extra large chocolate milkshake and a micgriddle from mcdonalds
second breakfast: 6 pancakes with icecream from Denny's
lunch: Triple Meat burger with extra large vanilla shake and large fries from What-A-Burger
First Dinner: 12 slow cooked baby back ribs from my local BBQ
Second Dinner: 32OZ steak, rare, cooked on my home grill

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>>40163517
Alright, nevermind then. My bizzle

>>40163564
Don't even try, fatties are so good at lying that they believe it themselves

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>>40163524
I wish I was lying. You think I enjoy being JUST FAT ENOUGH to be unlikeable? At this rate I should just go full Auschwitz and limit myself to 500cal a day

>>40163602
Create a user on Myfitnesspal and link the dairy for today here.

>>40163583
lol

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>>40163564

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>>40163583
Top lulz breh

>>40163613
>sugar sodium shit carbs no brotein
breh

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>>40163589
Already have an account.
Posted another SS already

>>40163613
You're obviously underestimating how much you actually eat. You're not a scientific anomaly, you're just stupid.

>>40163629
Fun fact: pretty sure this is the day I almost broke my tooth from biting down and not realizing where the fork was in my biscuits and gravy

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>>40163646
>Give me proof
>*gives proof*
>No


I literally just showed you exactly what I ate I think you're just retarded.

>>40163613
>eating that shit
Are you 14?

>>40163672
Do you track weight each morning, on a scale? You should see what way your are going then. Also, try IF out.

>TDEE is 3,000
>Have to shove 3500 calories of food in my face everyday
>still having trouble gaining weight

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>40163672
not that guy but you might be the actual retard if you can't figure out to eat less. a log is just that, a log. your measuring or calculating suck ass. I assume you have a food scale and not eyeballing.

>>40163720
dude breh breh

here's what you do breh

order an xxl triple meat pizza, cover that shit in VIRGIN OLIVE OIL

yess bruh oh yes

>>40163629
you're eating biscuits gravy and cinnamon rolls for fucking breakfast and pretending it only amounts to 600ish calories. You're full of shit or this is a troll

Do you eat your crunch berries without milk you fat fucking retard?

Here's your fool proof new menu
breakfast: 2 eggs, salsa, 3/4 cup otmeal

snack protein shake

lunch: spinach chicken salad, throw some vegetables in there as carbs

dinner half a cup of rice and a chicken breast, broccoli or spinach

eat that and tell me you don't start losing weight with all the processed fucking garbage you're throwing down your gullet

I figured out I was eating almost 3k a day before I stopped.

Today I'm at my calorie limit (a little over but my 2 mile walk brought me under my 1900 goal) what do I do with these hunger pains ?

>>40163613

First off wtf with all the carbs

second off are you weighing out how much you eat?

Hur dur I can eat 4 boxes of pasta because I skipped breaky

>>40163685
I wish

>>40163775
>pizza

i would but I'm not in the new jersey/new york area

plus greasy food is starting to make me sick. I had 5 guys a few days ago because I was looking for something fast and a lot of calories but i ate it and it made me feel awful

it was a 700 cal burger tho, but never again

>>40163629

the numbers on your clicker clacker aint tellin u da troof

in other news, OP eats sugar and is fat -- complains on fitness board about the utter impossibility that his diet is to blame because of these facts/alternative facts

ur tellin me god didnt create monkey humans to eat sugary treats and chickey nuggies?

>>40163781
The site automatically adds the calories or I add them from the nutritional facts you idiot

>not eating processed garbage
I said I was fat not rich

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Not OP, but also been cutting recently. 6'0 and 170ish lbs. Am I doing it right or wrong? Any tips?
Pic 1/3, lunch was a bowl of chicken noodle soup. I try to overestimate a bit.

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Super cutting mode

Under 1000 calories a day

>not healthy anon
Fuck you, that's why you're fat

>>40163824
Every fit form ever seems to agree that calorie deficit = weight loss because TDEE meme

>>40163789
I'm not weighing anything. I either measure with measuring cup or eat entire package of something.

The site shows you what I'm eating have you never looked at MFP before?

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>>40163831
2/3
I usually do cardio but rested on it today, it lists 50 push-ups and 100 sit-ups like this

>>40163781
>>40163781
>Do you eat your crunch berries without milk you fat fucking retard?
top? keky??

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>>40163845
3/3, macros n shit.

>>40163826
ARE YOU WEIGHING THE FOOD WITH A SCALE MORON?

you can't seriously believe youre going to lose weight eating jimmy deans for fucking breakfast.

the shit you are eating costs more than some eggs, chicken breasts, and vegetables ever would

You're just too retarded to even reason with and will fail no matter what

Just get off this site and stay fat you fucking failure

>>40163835
Yeah I don't care about people being healthy I care about being unattractive/fat. So yeah. Absolutely support SUPER ULTRA CUT MODE.

I'll go aushwitz mode and limit diet to water and crackers if I don't kill myself by tomorrow

>>40163835
Well how much do you weigh

>>40163613
LEPITIN
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FUCKING READ A BOOK GODDAMNIT

>>40163861

Then do it, but instead of crackers eat chicken

>>40163860
Why would I weigh the food with a fucking scale? If I eat an entire microwave BBQ sandwich and the nutritional facts are on the back, why would you weigh that with a scale? We're talking about PACKAGED FOOD. I didn't go out and kill a cow and slap it on a slice of mystery bread you fucking autist.

>>40163869
What does (diabetes word) have to do with weightloss?

>>40163879
just fuck off. seriously

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>>40163879

Autistic person calling a normal person autistic

>>40163879

love it, you're totally right! just keep doin what you're doin and everything will work out!

on a side note:
>OP
>not making it

>>40163902
>they've become self aware!

>>40163902
You literally suggested I weigh a packaged store bought food item with a scale.

>>40163907
OK.

But.

Why would I weigh
(Packaged food)

With a scale?

I could be fucking Dwayne Johnson and still be asking this. If a package says "25oz" and I eat the whole thing, why do I need to be berated for not weighing it?

Are nutritional facts just not that accurate? FDA just a meme? Can't trust muh governments?

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>>40163831
>>40163845
>>40163855
Pls respond

>>40163893
What does insulin have to do with wieght loss? Your a noob. Go read about insulin. Its more of a muscle building/fat storage hormone, but yeah it's a factor in wieght loss because glycogen and then a cow jumped over the price of tea in Russia Vladimir puddin is my nightlight man

>>40163936

packaged foods. the answer was packaged foods you dense motherfucker. the problem is your choice of shit food.

fuck dude pls stop posting

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>>40163897
I'm not the one that recommended weighing something when I already know how much it weighs.

Do you guys here pop your dumbbells on a scale to make sure they're accurate too?

>>40163962

Oh so this is a non GMO type meme now. Yeah I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point. They asked if I weighed my food on a scale, which was a retarded question automatically.

>>40163963
Actually yes. I weighed a kettlebell, then a plate at the scale at the gym the other day. Not to wieght those items per se, but to make sure the scale was actually accurate

>>40163672
You're fat because you're a lazy little bitch. Again, you're not a scientific anomaly, you're just a fat ass who pretends it's not your fault that you're fat. You're just another fat ass putting your fatlogic out on display.

>>40163947

You shouldn't eat less than 500-700 cals under maintenance unless you want to lose muscle. And I'm not really sure why you're cutting at 6'0 170, that's really skinny. You should probably be bulking doing a beginner program

>>40163629

How was the pork prepared? Did you use milk/butter for the potatoes? Did you eat the cereal with milk?

>>40163826
> randomly eyeballing the amount you eat
> hurr the app gives me the correct calories

Get some scales and weigh and measure shit properly
I bet money you're eating multiple setving sizes and only counting it as one.

And like the other anon said, you need to include the milk and extra shit you add

>>40163973

You are probably reading the packaging incorrectly. The nutritional information on the back is for one serving and it will give a measurement in ounces, grams, or similar for the weight or volume of food in one serving. Therefore you do need to weigh most foods.

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>>40163991
make sure you put this one down on your calorie counter for your proteinz

>>40164018
>randomly eyeballing

>1 serving = x

>Entire package = 2 servings

>Eat entire package

Add x+x to MFP

Not that hard to get your head around

>>40164021
I know what a fucking serving is and how it works I'm retarded but I know how to read nutritional facts.

>>40163459
>implying the correct move isn't to flip the board and play the game of life on your own terms

This is why you cannot win. You struggle not to lose. True gods and heroes struggle to overcome and succeed

>>40163936
Can't tell if shitposting, baiting hard, or mental retarded autist

>>40164061
>implying my own terms wouldn't be eating everything in my house

kek

>>40163995
usually its a good idea for skiinny fat dudes to do a small cut while lifting before they start bulking.

>>40163995
Meh, even at this weight I got the skinnyfat look, and I feel like 2600 as my maintenance kcals is an overestimation, I haven't eaten above 2200 in the past 3 weeks and I've only gone from 169 to 173. I was planning to cut to 160-65 then start bulkin

>>40164036
If thats what you're actually doing then that is fine.

But all your food is coming out of packages?... Bufh

>>40164064
Not him, but what's wrong his logic? I feel weird agreeing with him while he's getting called a retard

>>40164064
Not always.

Just usually.

Only healthy alternative to easy meal is expensive Birdseye meals.

>>40164111
OP here.
Not saying I shouldn't stop complaining and this whole thread was meaningless, but the whole "weigh your packaged food" meme was either a fuck up or pure autism

this nigga doesn't know how to weight spaghetti. there's a difference between cooked and uncooked. 3 bowls of crunch berries is not 1 cup. whole container of cinnamon rolls and biscuits is not 2 servings.

>>40164139
OP -
What do you drink with meals?

>>40164203
Water. Soda has turned into a dessert for me. I usually take one drink of it to ease my never-ending pain. And when I said one drink I'm not saying "hurr durr eyeballing 2 gallons" I mean I take the bottle out of the fridge, take one swig/drink/sip/whateverthefuck and then I put it back. This happens 2x day max. Usually only once every other day.

>>40163893
What is water weight? What is metabolism? What is passive and digestive calorie burn?

I get it now. You fell for the "le calories in, le calories out" meme. The non-armchair stephen hawking fatties on here will cry and scream before they admit your body is NOT just a basic physical concept. You don't just need to eat less, you need to eat healthy.

If you want to lose weight, drop any carb you can't eat out of the dirt. And that INCLUDES potatoes, wheat, and rice, unless you're eating them raw of course.

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>>40164236
>something like this is all it took for me to finally turn off my phone and sleeb


Thank

>>40164225
you're cutting, fatty. free sips are not allowed. free num nums are not allowed. you've been eating and drinking excess calories. you are actually eating 2,699 calories a day.

>>40163826
Processed food is way more expensive than raw.
Make your own food its not hard and its cheaper.
I'm a poor student and I can cook from scratch so can you. My protein shake and condiments would be the only things I eat that are processed.

>>40164225
You drink soda twice a day? Fuuaaaaaark.

https://www.foundmyfitness.com/

maybe you need to change when you eat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxM_CLsvieE

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>>40163960
>and then a cow jumped over the price of tea in Russia Vladimir puddin is my nightlight man

>>40164111
> OP logs cereal without milk
> /fit/points out hes dumb
> OP says he eats packaged meals
> people ask if he is logging serving sizes correctly
> OP responds with dwyane johnson, FDA just a meme, can't trust muh governments

I understand the point he was making, but he just went about it retardedly

>>40164225
I usually have a can of coke zero every 2 days.
I never log it because if that 5cals is make or break then I've fucked up

>>40164111

Two options:
1) His body violates the laws of thermodynamics
2) He's calculating or measuring something incorrectly

And when we try to help, he calls us retards and autists. So he can go fuck his fat self

>>40164236
Fuck off. Some of us are actually trying to help OP still. We dont need you confusing him with le maymays

OP you're fucking retarded. It's impossible to not lose weight at that many calories. IMPOSSIBLE.

So instead of being autistic and thinking you're the one person on earth who is different, how about you put your energy into figuring out where you are miscounting? Or just die fat, no one here actually cares.

>>40164470
I even log gum family only thing I guess on is oil because I don't know how much a capful is or if it evaporates or how much I drain

Idk about USA, but here in australia nutrion labels have a 5% margin of error

But its understandable because it would be impossible to make every single item identical across the board

>>40164480
I got the idea off an anon to buy a stick of butter and cut it up I to 50cal pieces.
That way I can just throw a bit in a pan and I know, its 50cals

>>40164473
>>40164473
The best part of these threads is when people try to tell a physics major who lost 70 pounds that weight loss is "le simple physics"

You're the only one spouting memes here chumps

>>40164499
if you think about it that would balance out because it's 5% +/-.

roses are red, lawyers write deeds,
OP just eats more than he goddamn needs

>>40164555
> physics major
> lost weight
> hurr it's a meme

You must be the shittiest in your field. Like I bet all your collegausee laugh at you

>>40164555
What are you even trying to say? It is simple, and if you're a physics major and you lost weight then you know OP is a moron. Wtf mate?

>>40164564
why did I kek so fucking hard at this

>>40164555
>HUR I'M A COLLEGE SMART MAN
>HURRRRR I CAN'T BE WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING EVER

I agree. I too am tertiary educated so I have bottomless knowledge on how to correctly weigh portions. I don't even need to do that though because I instinctively know that my sweeties "are just a little treat, nothing serious". Of course you dumbfag proles wouldn't have that skill, so I get where you're coming from.

>>40164572
>collegausee
I'm laughing at you rn kid

>>40164574
Never speak about physics again please. Do you even know what a closed system is? Hint, it's the only system in which the laws of thermodynamics apply. Another hint from a goddamn physics pro: Your body is not a closed system. Maybe my ethos will make you realize these extremely simple facts but I doubt it.

>>40163605
>Today's dairy
>1 gallon of milk

>>40164604
If you eat less than maintenance you lose weight. End of fucking story, how are you arguing against this when you yourself managed to lose a shit load of weight, how do you think you did it?

>>40164604
> UR BODYS NOT CLOSED SYSTEM!!1!

I smell a tumblerina who advocates HAES

>>40164590
So were you trying to say anything with this post or...

>>40163775
thats fucking nasty

See what you've done OP? People on the same side are now arguing for the same point against each other

I hope your happy OP

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>>40164604
How does weight loss work all mighty physics major

>>40163629
>>40163613
>eating cinnamon rolls for breakfast everyday
...m8

>>40164619
Not if you're also eating a fuckton of salt, your body will hold water. "Maintenance" also can't be a real thing because it's heavily affected by what you eat, that's why all these TDEE calculators are fucking useless.

I ate well over 4k calories daily on my weight loss. Guess I'm just a physical anomaly!!!

>>40164623
nice argument fatso, keep gorging them twinkies
>ill just burn it off later, c-calories in calories out right guise???

>>40164679
No you didn't

>>40164679
>nice argument fatso, keep gorging them twinkies
You either can't read or are baiting

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>>40164679
>eat less salt and keep your calories high will make you lose weight
kek

>>40164604
your understanding of thermodynamics is completely wrong

i sincerely hope you didn't pay good money for your degree if you're going to say something as silly as an open system is not bound by the laws of thermodynamics

>>40164646
net difference in weight=(food in)+(water in)-(water out)-(shit out)-(calories burned*(4184/c^2))

Lets ignore the fact that leafy greens give you bigger shits, that must be totally unrelated to weight loss!! Ignore the fact that weight is literally leaving your body!! Most people on a cut are barely shitting out a tootsie roll, that's why they struggle.

>>40163459
I was like you a year ago, every depression I had was a nonstop of eating food, now I started a new depression, this one is hard as fuck... I don't feel hungry, I eat 1 meal per day, starting to lose weight and gains, I don't care anymore.

>>40164679
> he thinks calories in vs calories out. is the same as IIFYM

newfag pls go

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>>40164732
>bigger shits is losing fat

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>>40163855
Looks pretty good, except drop one of those proton shakes in exchange for some kind of lean meat like fish or chicken

>>40164705
Yes, I did. I'm 6'5 if that makes you reee less but it will probably only make you ree more.

>>40164729
Fucking wrong retard, read a book. I'm sure you're a wikipedia scientist so maybe just google it and see that I'm right?

When you heat up something in the microwave, it's energy is conserved right? It's not getting more energy. Is what you are saying. Holy shit. KYS

>>40164724
Never said that. Just said it's possible to gain water weight above maintenance. Nice strawman though.

>>40164572
He's probably like the Doofus Rick in his field.

Might even eat his own shit.

>>40164732
you can account for mass transfer in an open system, it doesn't make the system not subject to the laws of thermodynamics or even not subject to an energy balance

put your degree in a shredder

>>40164788
Then if you're 6'5 and were overweight your maintenance would have been higher than 4000.

You were NOT eating over maintenance and losing weight.

>>40164788
man you literally have NO idea what you're talking about

you are so far down the dunning kruger rabbit hole it's amazing

>>40164763
> dr tyson is chubby tho

>>40164788
>Nice strawman though.
That word does not mean what you think it means

>>40164024
Here you go piggy.

>>40164763

>>40164739
>he can't understand my post

>>40164785
It is when you're also burning calories.

>>40164763
>>40164784
Nice pop scientists. But sure, take weight loss advice from a fatty.

Eat=/=digest. That's what you stupid faggots don't understand. In addition what you eat heavily influences how much you burn. I could repeat this 1000 times and not see a single counterargument, just more fatty cope.

>>40164799
Guy likes to eat.

>>40163517
>>40163506

Then you fucked it up, idiot. It doesn't matter how long you do it if you do it fucking wrong.

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>this first year physics kid
o i am laffin

>>40164817
>i'm smarter than these physicists because they're popular

>>40163459
If your TDEE is 2700 and you're overweight you must eat more than that. Either you've calculated wrong or you're misjudging how many calories you eat. Something ain't right if you aren't losing weight.

.kst likely you've calculated your TDEE wrong. 2700 is pretty high and unless you are like 6'5" with decent musculature it's probably a lot lower than that.

Every fat person who said they were on a diet counted their calories wrong and ate like pigs. You're not different OP. I dont trust that you only eat whats present on the app. My father is fat too and him too would say that he didnt much. He just never counted the little snacks or sauce or oil he would put in his food. You're probably the same. Fat people like you are so annoying. You are not an anomaly and do not break the law of physics.

>>40164788
you can still take that something, put a system boundary around it, and do a conservation of mass, conservation of energy, and entropy balance on it

in no way is that system not subject to the laws of thermodynamics, you need to go take remedial thermodynamics

>>40164791
accounting for mass transfer is the same as the laws of thermodynamics? good golly we have a retard on our hands!

do the human race a favor, put your brain in a shredder.

>accounting for mass transfer
You mean what I was doing and what you were not?

>>40164796
you literally have NO argument. How much weight have you lost? What credentials do you have? That's exactly what I thought, who's dunning kruger now.

>>40164810
It does

>>40164829
In fairness Dr Christian isn't a physicist.
> Hes just the best shitlord dr ever

>>40164841
I'm convinced you're just baiting at this point.
I refuse to believe a first year physics student could be this autistc

>>40164842
True

>>40164788
Not the other anon's but I have a Master's Degree in Chemical Engineering.

This thread and you in particular are fucking hilarious. Lrn2 Mass and Energy Balance.

>>40164841
it is an application of the laws of thermodynamics, which you would be familiar with if you were any good at physics

qualifications:
575 deadlift
smarter than you

>>40164841
Can I straighten something out, do you think you can lose weight while still eating at or over maintenance?

Yes or no

Hey bitch tits, what's your weight, height, gender, and age?

>>40164829
>you can still take that something, put a system boundary around it
Sounds like a closed system!! Maybe if the only system boundary on humans was our stomachs you would be right. Unfortunately we have assholes as well

>>40164857
>HEY GUIS I TOOK A SEMESTER OF A CLASS ONCE

>>40164851
Yes. If i eat 3k calories then shit out 1k, and burn 2500 calories, I will losing weight while eating over maintenance.

QED, can you shut the fuck up now? That you all have been proven objectively wrong?

>>40164848
You need to learn

>>40164861
>HEY GUISE I DON'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT

>>40164867
Except you won't be shitting out 1000 calories you fucking moron

>>40164877
? watch me, cuck

>>40164875
You sound like every college freshman. Take one class and all of the sudden you're an expert. I mean despite all of the medical research done over the years you alone have somehow only been the first person to figure out that you can not lose weight at a deficit.

>>40164867
>If i eat 3k calories then shit out 1k, and burn 2500 calories
So... You lose more calories than you consume

Hmm how else could that be worded...>>40164763

>>40163517
Do you know how to count?

>>40163459
You might have a higher bodyfat percentage than you think which means your TDEE is overestimated. My TDEE is 800. I thought 1200 was reasonable, but I was actually gaining fat.

>>40164916
>My TDEE is 800

Are you a dwarf female?

>>40164903
wow it's almost like digest less calories than you burn is a completely statement from eat less calories than you burn.

thanks for supporting my point

the TDEE calculator in the sticky is a dead link.

I used https://tdeecalculator.net/ and it said at 200 lbs, 5'9", working 3-days a week my TDEE is close to 3000, which sounds way too fucking high. What TDEE calculator would you guys recommend?

Hey bitch tits, what's your weight, height, gender, and age?

>>40164841
yes, it absolutely is lad

First law of thermodynamics: When energy passes, as work, as heat, or with matter, into or out from a system, the system's internal energy changes in accord with the law of conservation of energy.

this is literally exactly what we're talking about

you can put a boundary on the open system, and then account for the energy transfer via matter (eating, shitting, etc), heat, and work (although I suspect you don't even lift)

this is very basic thermodynamics, idk how you claim to have a physics degree if you don't understand this

i've seen this open system bullshit parroted on here a bunch of times and it always makes me laugh, like open systems aren't analyzed via mass energy and entropy balance all the time

>>40164916
>800
My mother is 5'0 and 55kg. She's currently losing weight on around 1200. Wtf are you lol

>>40164867
If you put 3000 cals into your body and you burn 2500 you will GAIN MUSCULAR and FAT MASS, you dont "shit out" 1000 calories like your bodys not using it.

>>40164921
No, I just lounge around most days.

>>40164923
You've been saying you've been eating at a deficit and it doesn't work. Now you just said that if you were burning more calories than your body was absorbing then you would lose weight.

>>40164896
I'm at the 300 level but anyone who's taken high school physics or chem can tell you thermodynamics only applies to closed systems. Which I guess makes me the expert for this group of retards.

>>40164896
Lol pls post some of this medical research? Thanks

>>40164954
I don't care how lazy you are. You have to be above 800

>>40164965
Why don't you post something supporting what you've been saying this whole time

>>40164924
> 200lbs
Sounds about right to me fampai

what is the best calorie counting app?

>>40164924
anyone?

>>40164976
It's possible that the canned fish is underestimating the caloric content by 25%, but other than that I don't see how.

>>40164923
> I argued against this exacr thing. But now I'll pretend its what I've been saying the whole time

W E W
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>>40164989
Wtf does canned fish have to do with your TDEE being above 800

>>40164940
First law of thermodynamics: in an isolated system, energy is cconserved.

You can derive other statements about open systems from the laws of thermodynamics by essentially looking at a closed system+an energy source. Very basic shit, I agree.

this
DOES NOT
mean the laws of thermodynamics apply to an open system, no matter how much mental gymnastics you want to go.

Either way, your annoying argument is tangential to my point because the human body is not bounded only at the mouth. Bye.

>>40164996
I said this exact thing the whole time. But now retards who argued against me will pretend I said something besides what I actually said.

>>40164960
>eating
>absorbing
>same thing
I'm getting tired of calling people retarded. NOt the OP btw.

>>40165003
I read a paper sometime last year or so that said that the caloric content on the nutrition labels of food may be off by 25% (I think) in either direction. The lower ones were for less processed food like peanuts (since people don't chew enough) vs peanut butter (finely ground).

>>40165013
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/energy-and-enzymes/the-laws-of-thermodynamics/a/the-laws-of-thermodynamics

>>40165031
> consume less calories than you burn to lose weight aka cals in vs cals out
> hurr durr closed systems and digestion

>>40165031
There's studies that show you shit out like 5% at the most. You aren't shitting out 1000 out of 3000 calories mate. Fuck off.

>>40165034
What does this have to do with you mis calculating an 800tdee.

Unless your a child or a short wonan, that is way too fucking low

>>40165031
Retard, op says he's eating at a deficit so no matter what he would be absorbing less calories than he claims to be burning.

>>40165045
I mostly eat canned fish, leafy vegetables, and multivitamins. Leafy vegetables aren't a good source of calories and I don't eat enough of them for that to be the case, the multivitamin isn't a significant source of calories, so the only food source left is canned fish. It's possible that my TDEE is 1000 vs 800 calories. Is the implication not clear enough?

>>40165064
How tall are you?

>>40165075
5'11"
I know, I'll never learn.

>>40165038
Hyperbole, who cares. 5% is a shitton...

>>40165036
>"calories in vs calories out" now means something different than how it is usually used
ok.

The whole point is if you eat 3k calories with X amount of physical activity, how much weight you lose is in no small part dependent on what that 3k cals is made of. Which is factually correct, and contrary to the "calories in calories out" broscience meme.

>>40165046
Read my posts faggot. I was simply suggesting that instead of reducing the amount of cinnamon rolls he eats like others are suggesting, he should instead consider altering his diet to include more complex carbs and vegetables. Guess I'm retarded for that.

>>40165035
>khan academy
DROPPED

>>40165084
>I was simply suggesting this by greentexting the words eating, absorbing

>>40165089
http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2003/04/stanford-researchers-say-reduced-calorie-consumption-diet-duration-lead-to-weight-loss-in-low-carbohydrate-diets.html

>>40163818
ever tried halva?

Nutrition Facts
Halva
Amount Per 100 grams
Calories 469
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 22 g 33%
Saturated fat 4.1 g 20%
Polyunsaturated fat 8 g
Monounsaturated fat 8 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 195 mg 8%
Potassium 187 mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 60 g 20%
Dietary fiber 4.5 g 18%
Protein 12 g 24%
Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 3% Iron 25%
Vitamin B-6 15% Vitamin B-12 0%
Magnesium 54%

>>40165100
what are you babbling on about? I can't follow retard logic.

>>40163845
Don't track cardio. Just set your activity level to sedentary and track the food you eat.
Tracking cardio is inaccurate and you'll probably gain weight if you ate back the calories from the cardio.

>>40165117
What is this supposed to show again? I'm not saying eating less calories won't cause weight loss. I'm saying changing your diet with a fixed calorie consumption can ALSO cause weight loss. Do you want me to restate my argument for the 100th time or do you get it yet?

>>40163826
honestly losing weight is easy, bulking even easier as long as you have money to eat enough tasty foods

also you should just kill yourself if you think that eating 1500-2000kcal a day would be expensive, you could literally eat that in a cheapish fucking restaraunt everyday and it would end up costing less than 500 euro, when you make your own food even GREAT QUALITY food items would end up costing less than 300 euro a month and even that requires some expensive ass taste.

im on fucking welfare and I eat decent foods and even go eat out once in a while and im eating +3200 kcal everyday and I dont have any problems affording to eat

>>40164916
well the 800 TDEE could be completely true as you seem to lack of brain which itself usually uses somewhere around 250-350kcal daily
you probably running on an artificial heart and other important organs, just like in the Jason Statham movie?

srsly though not even midgets have that low TDEE

>today ate a pack of ramen, a whole package of cheedar cheese (cracker) combos, whole bag of cookies, milk, some arizona tea

>comes out to around 1650 calories

>still lost weight


its not hard. i even have binge eating disorder and im losing weight

>>40165013
...the laws of thermodynamics absolutely do apply to an open system, you cannot possibly be a physics major and not understand this

>>40165356
weak semantic argument is weak.

If you consider the first law "energy is conserved" then no it doesn't apply. I'm assuming you're using the definition "energy is conserved in an isolated system" which does apply to open systems because if you isolated a system within that open system then it would conserve energy.

See how meaningless and stupid your "point" is now?
>waaah I'm smart too
try again

>postures as an authority
>obfuscates his points with semantics
most obvious bait of all time and this retard has been at it for hours, lift your fucking game /fit/

>>40165422
You may or may not be right, but do you have to be a petulant little cunt about it, you repulsive egomaniac?
People would be more willing to listen to you if you weren't a condescending prick. But I don't suppose that you go into physics because of your social prowess

>>40165482
>uses the word obfuscate
>doesn't know what semantics means
and I'm the bait sure guy

>>40165496
You seem to have stumbled on to the wrong website, I think Reddit might be a little more what you're looking for

>>40165512
>You seem to have stumbled on to the wrong website, I think Reddit might be a little more what you're looking for
no u, bitch boy

>>40165512
>transparent attempt at gas-lighting
you really are a first year

>>40165535
bait

>>40163459
>>TDEE is 2,700
>>No possible way I eat over 2,000 a day
>>Only 35~ lbs overweight


So guess what numbnuts, your real TDEE is obviously under 2,000 a day. Wouldn't the evidence fucking-well reflect that fact? Should we gather the bones of Sir Isaac Newton, pay the money to the Church of Scientology, and then all circle jerk while Monk chanting? No need my friend. There is no need for us to do this. We know the truth already.

EAT. LESS. Try 1800 for a week, see what happens. If it doesn't work, go lower.

>>40163517
obviously you cant count for shit

>>40163835
lmao holy shit but what about rubber banding effect?

>>40163613
jesus christ you fucking moron obviously your actual intake is off and you eat like shit just give up

Every time I'm emotionally distressed my appetite goes out the window

My gf just broke up with me and I've been going to the gym every day (usually three per week), lifting heavy, hit deadlift PRs two days in a row (stalled for two weeks prior), can now jump rope like an obnoxious cunt and have been eating way under my caloric goals (sometimes 900 calories a day (maintenance is 2000))
When I write it out it's actually not so bad
You should try it OP

>>40163831
6''0 170 and you are cutting do you have an upcoming role in a Schindlers list remake

>>40163837
eating less means weighing less wow what a meme

>>40163844
> or eat the entire package
enjoying staying fat you fucking idiot

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>>40163960
>and then a cow jumped over the price of tea in Russia Vladimir puddin is my nightlight man
tell us moar

>>40163826
What? Cooking your own is way cheaper than processed shit.

>>40163879
It might say 400kcal per 100g, the BBQ sandwich might be 400g and suddenly you're retarded and just ate 1600 kcal.

I just hit 3200 cals and I still have a protein shake to go before I finish the night off. I can't understand how grown ass men have a hard time throwing back 2000 cals

>>40165687
> 1600kcal sandwhich

sign me the fuck up

>>40163629
I'm willing to bet damn good money that you ate more than a 14oz porkchop, or had more gravy, or had more than a single cup of cereal.