/fraud/

In for trest and DHB

blast ends at the beginning of march

then it's 2 months of psmf and I should be good for summer

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Do you guys have little fat deposits on either side of the base of your cock? It's really annoying and makes me want to cut down to like 7% if possible to get rid of it.

>>40113892
Y tho. Trest is okay I guess but I hate short esters and I'm kinda sketched out by the ai doses with it. DHB seems like nobody can get brewed with little pip.

>>40113903
What are you going to run during/after your cut?

>>40113903
>2 months of psmf
Why are you blasting at 50% bf?

>>40113950
just going to cruise. I've done DNP before but I'm not going to do that again while it's hot outside.

I'm not 100% decided on my summer blast yet but probably going to do low test/high tren for lean dry gains during summer

I also definitely do not have fat deposits around my cock

>>40114057
I mean, I'm giving myself 2 months. we'll see how my blast goes and how my cut goes. I'm still at the beginning stages of this blast.

I want to cut some fat quickly, so Im curious if clenbuterol would work? Im kinda a fat piece of shit and need to lose weight quickly for an activity. Would clen work? Any recommendations?

>>40114251
google psmf and add in an EC(A) stack

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>>40113950
>Do you guys have little fat deposits on either side of the base of your cock?
Embrace the foopah anon.
>>40114251
>>40114264
Add in some DNP too.

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>>40113880

>just lying through my teeth at this point

I will make another piper desu

Got a solid 8.5/10 Asian qt on the line here, pale skinned one too

>>40114251
>>40114285
>Add in some DNP too.
dont listen to this faggot
learn to diet if you are fat or you will rebound very quickly

What's the best cycle for olympic lifting??

>>40114317
Im having a hard time with sticking to a diet, and I want to lose it quickly. Any ideas? Im pretty skeptical about DNP

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>>40114317
>>40114428
What's wrong with 200mg dnp if he is already doing psmf and ec?

>>40114437
>>40114428
Because as you can see, he has no willpower.
you and I know, the chances of him OD'ing this shit are pretty high.

>>40114401
Test, maybe tren. Also sdrol, halo, and methyltren.

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>>40114467
>the chances of him OD'ing
If he stays at 200mg he will be fine. It's just another little edge.
>>40114401
>>40114506
What's a good cycle for crossfit?

trying to spice up my plain ass chicken breasts, recommend me things

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>>40114535
ketchup

Finished my marathon goal today lads.

Time to bulk like Armageddon is coming. Who wants to bet me some pretend Internet karma I can't do 1lbs/day for 30 days?

>>40114314
What's with her English

>>40114532
I know what you mean, but since he will keep eating like shit, eventually he'll be like "I ate so much shit today but I wanna lose weight. better eat some more of those 'fatburners'"
He should keep his diet in check first and then thinking about any additions
pretty sure he is 20%+bf

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>>40114535
>trying to spice up my plain ass chicken breasts
I really like the Lawry's marinades. As long as you don't go with teriyaki or Asian sugar fuck they are very low carb.
I use a whole bottle per five pounds of meat.
>>40114558
You ran a whole marathon?
>>40114574
Who knows but 200mg of dnp + diet is gonna help a lot.

>>40114569

another chink that just moved to boston to go to MIT

that is like 90% of the city, at least, young qt girls, is asains

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Any of y'all watching NFL?

How do you think NFLers juice and which ones?

I'm thinking JJ Watt for one.

Also of course Peypey did HGH

>>40114535
Slow cooker with a good sauce.

>>40114774
Anyone who makes money from their body uses some kind of PED. I would guess NFL uses low dose test and hgh for recovery at minimum.

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>>40114788
>>40114774
I know if there was no testing, Nandrolone would be fucking awesome for sports. Too bad the best compound is also the most detectable.

I'm really unsure on what / how to use these things.

Would any of you guys be able to break down what exactly you take, how/when you take it, how long you take it, and the side effects you may experience?

I'm nervous looking into this and trying it out myself

>>40114816
Go to reddit and read the steroids wiki bro.

do you know how diabetics have those insulin bag/pumps on them?

would it be possible to have one full of steroids that will constantly pump ronalds into you keeping you at perfect stable blood levels? tfw only 1 pin and keep a bag around you for 16 weeks.

>>40114874
ah alright, thanks man

>>40114893
NP and remember, you have to pin to win. Forget the idea of an orals only cycle. You need test as a base no matter what.

>>40114883
its intramuscular you retard. keeping an open wound would problay lead to infection.

>>40115000
you can inject testosterone subQ but still not a good idea

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>>40115060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qux9-HOm6eg

i feel like it would probaly burn until it absorbed fully into the muscles(based on ester length ofc)

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>>40113950
No?

>>40114314
Thanks to all people who text like this for wing manning me by making me look like such a winner comparatively

>>40114428
Sticking to diets its so easy. It's 100% ok to binge on snacks sometimes. Everyone does. Just track everything in MFP and make up for it one day that week when you're not craving sweets.

remember this ex fraud? We texting again

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>tfw no fit gf

>Place order 8 days ago after talking with vendor
>Still not here
>just asked for tracking number

Bits in escrow so Im not worried, I just really, really want to start soon.

And I have a month or so window of free time thats ideal for me to start.

>>40115390
same, want to start already

really hope shit didnt get seized

>>40115428
Yea, I deliberately used a US source with verified US-US purchases. Some of the reviews say it takes awhile but its not making me any more relaxed. The worst part is just knowing that I can't make my second order (if needed) until I get a refund (if necessary)

Really wish I wouldve found the source talk page Id heard so much about before I ordered...

Hello /fraud/ im looking to a 12 week Test E + Tren E cycle
Can anyone give me any advice as to what doses I should do for a first time tren second time test cycle?
And any help with PCT and AI would be greatly appreciated.

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is it possible to get tren rash like 2 months after quitting?
I've had rashes literally all the time since I had a fever late october, and quit my year long tren/test frauding period in august. Doctor don't know what sort of chronic urticaria it is, they've done lots of blood tests and only found out that my liver values are bad, and I of course lied to them not having frauding.
The rashes appear/get worse with heat, contact with literally anything (clothes or even furniture when I rest my arm against my desktop desk) or gets even more worse when I scratch my existing rashes. They appear out of nowhere and keeps me up at night. Tren is the only thing I can think of that could fuck my body up to this point. Almost three months of constant rashes and I'm not getting better.
Oh, along with the rashes I've also felt incredibly lethargic and had weird scalp tingles/contractions (kind of how your head feels when you catch yourself falling asleep), but it's easier to just explain it as the rash.
Not to mention I haven't a slightest interest in working out when I'm as broken as this.

Thoughts? I've treated myself for scabies and tried a gluten free diet (dermatitis) and nothing have worked. What do you think it could be?

>>40115598
People who get sides should just stay off period.

I'm blasting 500test/600tren/900eq/25sdrol with no AI for a few months and I'm 100% fine. I've come off randomly to go to jail or detox without any PCT and I'm always fine.

If you get sides from a compound just don't touch it.

>>40115655
yeah thing is I don't know if it's the tren or not. seems likely though, what else could give a 3+ months of rashes and lethargy?

>>40115515
you should use tren a instead of tren e

>>40115687
Well I have to head away a few times during the cycle and wouldn't be able to take the tren or test with me

what happened to all the cool trips like

jerry
canary
tico
farmer
cunt
jm
albfag
stoya
camb
trendick
etc.

i dont even recognize this place anymore my man

>>40115666
Maybe being satan?

>>40116032
Jerry posts alot. He was on yesterday.

A lot of those trips arent even that old. Alotta of the regs from a few years ago probably just grew up and moved on.

Now we have Sesame street, bimbo, and then Master and Capitalist jerking each other off about MAGA.
But they provide good chem advice.

>>40116032
jerry was here yesterday faggot

>>40116075
im not saying they are all that old, i just dong see most of them that frequently anymore except for jerry i guess >>40116171

>>40116032
>jm
Kek. How did you miss buttholegate. That was the best thing that has ever happened to these threads.

>>40115687
I've only heard negative things about tren e, I've used a and had no side effects, what are you guys opinions on e?

>>40116240
it's the same as tren a but if you're doing your first tren cycle you want tren a because if you get bad sides you can stop sooner

there's no other reason

>>40116280
Cool. Thanks for clearing that up

>>40115598
Tren messes with your thyroid, that could have something to do with it. Just how bad are your liver values?

>>40116280
what sides could possibly be so bad that they can't just deal with it for a few days

>>40116394
Big milky tits to name one. And tren e will take around two weeks to clear your system.

>>40113950
Use a serm and Asin. There's trest deca but I think you'll stay shut down for long time, probably should cruise for two months before pct if you want to come off it. I was thinking of brewing a different ester from trest base. I can get DHB (cup) raw and I'll brew some up.

>>40116032
jerry = here all the time
canary = saw him somewhat recently, think he still is doing the same thing no real changes
tico = got married i think
farmer = no idea here
cunt = still in the us but potentially thinking about moving back to ireland. doing well it seems
jm = someone found photos of him spreading his asshole and we never heard from him again (kek)
albfag = damn i miss him. gave the best advice. seems to pop in from time to time, still competing.
stoya = still doing that thing where he gets a new obsession every few months. i think he fucks trannys now too what a faggot
camb = no idea. saw him drop made knowledge on some anon like a year ago but that was it. that was the first time i had seen him here in years.
trendick = i think he has some health issues now bc of all the really high doses. as far as i know still doing the same thing though...

>>40116554
What about coach/DHB?

>>40116640
I think he just got fed up with all the weak shitposting.

>>40116640
oh yeah man he was awesome too. thats why i said etc. so many people i forgot

>>40116686
Fair enough. I only just came back and it seems like every thread is just glands and alex shitposting and people complaining about glands and alex shitposting.

>>40116794
pretty much exact same for me
dont think ill be back for some time again...

>>40116794
Bimbo gives good advice to aspiring roiders desu, so does brick when he's here. Everyone else besides Alex and glands are either b8ing, taking the b8, or counter b8ing, or shitposting though.

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>>40116032
>stoya
>cool

>>40115515
>using tren e for first tren run
lol jk i used tren e first time too

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Writing a guide to get women for internet nerds, what name do you guys like better

How To Meet Women Through The Internet: Even If You're Ugly
Or
Nerd to E-Pimp: Meet Women From Internet

Or some combination of those

Starting up my first test cycle tomorrow, got any last minute tips?

Just a bit curious on how many times/how long I should be lifting per week, hear various opinions.

>>40116888
Mirin jerrbears

Name it "I really need to pay rent guys buy my brook"

>>40116890
Where did you buy from?

>>40116888
lol

pro tip

if someone is looking at a "guide" they are never gonna pull anything in their life

>>40116955
the walmart next to his house fuck off

>>40116890
At first it'll be about the same as natty, then when it kicks in you'll be able to lift more frequently and more intensely.

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>>40116826
Same I did as well
No regrats
Fuck being a pincushion doing that shit Ed or eod

And either I just responded really well, or the sides are wayyy over exaggerated

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>>40116914
Lel that would be p accurate

>>40116969
Not necessarily, some people can change, I know I did, I used to be a fucking loser, read everything I could on getting women and while half is bullshit and over analyzing, I can safely say overall it's only helped in the long run. But yeah desu I wouldn't expect this product to actually change them instantly into pimps, as they probably won't know how to act when meeting them in person, but it would at least give them the chance to meet them in person and gain experience through that means

>>40116794
>>40116808
Specific questions still get good advice. But glands and Alex basically use the threads as a blog.

If you ask a specific question though, youll still get a few solid responses, often from the other Anons though.

>>40116955
I think he got it from Kill Yourself You Retard LLC.

>>40117077
>>40116969
WTF! Why would you tell me this! We don't have those places in the United States. Well we do have walmart, but since steroids are illegal, we don't have them over the counter.

>>40115442
>>40115390

Sauce. I've been browsing the last 14 of these threads and can't find a source.

>>40117377
Literally on reddit

>>40117377
The only real rule of this thread is no source talk.
If you've actually been following /fraud/ for this long, then you would know that.

My best advice would be if its on the clearnet, and youre not paying with Bitcoin, youre probably getting swindled.

>>40117476
>tfw my source allows me to mail him checks

>>40117476
My Aus source took paypal, fast delivery. Good times.

My dog has no gainz. How much roids should I give him and what kind of roids? Putting him on a high protein bulk diet.

>>40117377
I'll take dark net markets for 500, Alex.

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>>40117476
>Bitcoin

Bitcoin is a fucking ballache. Miss the days of Circle where you could use a goddam debit card, buy your btc and send them to your friendly roid dealer in less than 2 fucking minutes.


>>40117672
25mg of dbol a day should work well.

>>40117672
>>40118006

where is that cat meme of the guy who fed his cat protein powder and made him a weighted harness to pull shit around

i think i saw that dbol was fed to dogs and chickens for dog/cock fights

>>40118006
mfw i was patient with coinbase and can now buy any amount instantly with debit card
only problem is my bank calls me after every purchase thinking it's /fraud/

if only i had the pic of "you" i used to shitpost with. the mexican manlet with the goofy shoes. it's on my other pc and im lazy

Fuck I just ran out of my halo and the needles for my test p still hasn't come in because the mail lady decided to be a dick, and to top it all off I'm going to be out of town for 2 weeks without any gear, so I only have time for like a 5 week cycle instead of the 8 I was planning.

Would gaps in my cycle hurt me alot? I need to fly out for a couple days in the middle of my test cycle but I don't want to risk flying with it so I'll have to skip like 2 pins

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>>40118081

>>40117664
My old sauce let me paypal, all new cunts say bitcoin only

>>40118102
Are you using just test p for oils?

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>>40118081
Im still waiting on the two small deposits or whatever from coinbase to verify my account.

Had to find a sauce that used WU again to get some tren. Im 15 weeks out from the Mexican Pro and couldnt wait. Plan on rocking those pimp ass boots on stage too kek.

>>40118168
> Plan on rocking those pimp ass boots on stage too kek.
kekd

don't forget to put your lifts in them

>>40118147
Yeah

I'm 6'8", 250.06 about 20~% bodyfat. I'm down from 270. I'm thinking about DNP. Looking for advice and dosage please?

>>40118223
pretty good info on reddit /r/dnp

>>40118006
>>40118081
Will giving my doggo dbol make him aggressive though? He still has balls, maybe I should get him female doggo to improve his morale. Don't want doggo humping people.

>>40118258
>Will giving my doggo dbol make him aggressive though?
only if his estro gets too high. maybe blood test him and give him an ai like asin or adex.

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>>40116032
there were never good trips you fucking faggot. 90% is blasting roids because muhh zyzz did it too while being a skinny twink

There are/were only some funny trips, like jerry, jm and brick

i only miss that dent black cock fucking transsexual

>>40118258
>>40118321
What If doggo has no balls?

>>40118364
if doggo has no balls you don't need to worry about him humping people or other female doggos.

>>40118335
i miss mostly homo. not because i liked him, but because of his failed attempts at cutting.

>>40115655
>I'm fine
Talk to me in 10 years

>>40115598
If the rash Is just urticaria then it might just be idiopathic meaning they will never find a cause.. 80% of rashes with urticaria they never find a real cause. You should get on some antihistamines like ceterezine. That will help.

>>40118387
>>40118364
My doggo is 6 and athletic with no balls.
Clen and sdrol?

>>40118364
>>40118409
If doggo has no balls he will never be able to keep his gains, you'd have to put him on a permanent test cycle because without balls he can make no test.
>mutilating your doggo

>>40118454
Worth it, doesnt piss on everything.
Is less aggressive
No leg humping

>>40118006
what happened to circle? I've bought DNP twice with it

>tfw seeing incredible hair growth using 1.5mm derma roller and supps
>don't want to fuck it up again by doing another cycle
>debating whether the 20lbs of muscle and amazing high test feels is worth losing the hair temporarily

God damnit why did I get the short end of the hair genes stick

>Caught feels again

How effective is it to take asin or something to get rid of feels?

>>40118542
give me your derma roller tips. got mine coming this week. Do you do it yourself? How do you sanitize it? Minidoxidol or mast's stack?

>>40113880

Anyone know what the deal is with EC stack and the effect on adrenal glands? bodyrecomp claims that EC stack can be taken forever, but everyone else says to cycle off of it, and that you can damage the adrenal glands in your body by over using an EC stack or using it for prolonged periods of time. What period of time would guys say is "prolonged"?

What are your thoughts and experiences on this

Suspect information:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-long-to-take-ephedrine-caffeine-stack.html/

I'm also hearing from people that benadryl reduces the damage to your adrenal glands?

There is a very concerning lack of hard science on this subject, most information is anecdotes from teenagers. I have been on EC for some time now, months. To be quite honest I have an addictive personality and when I'm not on the EC I feel, you know, depleted, bored, no energy.

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>>40116554
>trendick = i think he has some health issues now bc of all the really high doses. as far as i know still doing the same thing though...


Only health issue I have had was a sterile abscess like 9 months ago. Bloods, lipids, ect all came back perfect though when I was in the hospital.

Perfectly healthy now. Ive competed in a few PL meets since I was gone, bought a few muscle cars, had an affair, and am 15 weeks out from a NPC show followed by a pro qualifying event a month after that.

Still blasting and cruising well mostly blasting away though

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>>40118488
No longer supports bitcoin. So its basically useless. Pretty pissed about it since it was the only easy way to buy and send btc that I knew of.

>>40118552

Idk mast's stack. I quit using minox because the water retention in my face bothered me.

I usually roll the derma roller about 10 times over one spot. Back and forth would be 2 times. This usually gets to the point where there is very minor bleeding and I stop in that spot and proceed to the next thinning spot.

I use a pattern usually. Maybe roll a few times vertically, a few times horizontally, diagonally, etc. Just make sure the little area they intersect at is rolled no more than 10 times

I take niacin 2x a day, 5mg biotin 1x a day, vitamin D, Zinc

I also use a scalp massager with jojoba oil 2x a week at night, but this is only because accutane permanently made my scalp dry which I think has something to do with hair loss.

>>40118657
fuck that's dumb as shit, what are you anons using to buy your favorite research chemicals?

>>40118694
thanks mate, best of luck, hairlets need tto stick tpogether

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>>40118773
Ive always used paypal for peptide sites and WU for jesus juice.

Waiting to get my coinbase account verified then hopefully Ill use that for btc if it isnt a cluster fuck like most other vendors/wallets are.

How long after a first cycle is it safe to do another?
Currently on
Week 1-12 test e 500mg
Week 1-3 dbol
I want to get real cut for after the dbol but should I just do natty cutting or do something like tren/winny? I feel like hopping on another cycle is something I should wait longer for?

>>40118694
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

>>40118853
Probably wont do tren, cba all those injects..

Is.ESTP still pregnant? Looking forward to seeing how big her boobs get.

Just took my first dose of mk 677. Does that mean I'm not natty anymore?

>>40119037

Un-Ironically yes, you threw your natty card and bragging rights away for something that will add 0.001lbs of muscle to your body.

You fucked up big time, not even a sarm that fucking does something useful

Just pin if you want to fraud dumbass

>>40118588
bump

>>40118588
You're taking two stimulants in high doses everyday for months and you are looking for info to say it's gonna be ok

I'm gonna go with my gut and say you should probably taper off

I took it for a couple weeks last year and the boost it gave was addictive and I found the days off afterwards were shitty feeling

How many extra calories is it really gonna burn? Get your fat ass on the treadmill

>>40119037
yep

>>40119037

Does your body naturally produce that compound?

>>40119105
>>40119135
All good I'll just do what all you guys do and lie lol.
>>40119141
It produces ghrelin which mk mimics? But srs your body naturally produces test and taking it is still not natty as far as i know.

>>40119164

I would say TRT doses of test natty but not Supra physiologic does. Who cares what anyone online says.

>>40119132

>extra calories

10-20 AFAIK

It's more about that 'zoom-zoom' meth feeling.

>I'm gonna go with my gut and say you should probably taper off

Absolutely not what I wanted to hear, but unless someone can (and I will be eternally grateful) show me some concrete, logic, proof, that the shit is not going to butt fuck me if I take it forever, I will do so.

You think it's OK to take it before a date or something, just special occasions, without loading it? I find that like booze, EC makes me friendly, wanna talk to everyone, happy, outgoing.

But obviously booze is not a drug of choice for bodybuilders so I am off the sauce

Or will I simply be fucking myself up by taking it without proper loading protocol?

>>40118390
they've given me atarax but they doesn't work good if at all honestly, plus they make me tired and slow in the head like a retard so I don't use them.
so you don't think it's the tren?

What's a good compound for a second blast lads

Bulking into the sunset so want strength

Preferably no prolactin sides or dbol because gyno

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mfw run out of spirulina powder and payday isn't till Friday

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Will tren make me look like this?

>>40119265
Then go for EQ

>>40119191
>"In any case, back to the question, how long should EC be used? And the answer sort of depends on your perspective".

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-long-to-take-ephedrine-caffeine-stack.html/

It goes into some detail.

>>40119265
What >>40119318 said. I'd try and get ahold of the cyp ester of it though, so you're not spending weeks upon weeks upon fucking weeks waiting.

>>40119265
>>40119318

Why not dhb?

>dbol
Sdrol for first 3 weeks.

LGD is also a good stack with test/other roids for entire blast length

>>40118632
>Still blasting and cruising well mostly blasting
accidentally upping the dose again ftw

>>40119194
I don't think so, if it was it would have happened while you were on or directly after stopping and then fade away by itself. It doesn't just appear 2 months after you quit and is related to it somehow. Atarax has shitty sides its mainly used to suppress itchyness, try a more specific antihistamine class 2 so ceterizine or levo ceterizine they won't make you sleepy af. Also you can use 'cold cream' on the skin to help a little ahaindy the itchyness..
Try to find out if there is a relation with shampoo or soap or food or any medication you are taking atm.

Fuck DHTs, just got my bloodwork back, after 15 weeks of 500 test, 400 mast my cholesterol was worse than after 30 weeks of 600 test 400 deca with 10 superdrol preworkout 6 times a week

And my diet was better. Next to no saturated fat, loads of fruit, good amount of veggies, enough omega 3, high fiber, only whole grain.
What the fuck is this shit.

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>>40119870
Okay, thanks.
I haven't really changed any specific life style since before I started getting it. I don't even use shampoo or soap too often, tried different diets (including gluten free), and have only been taking the atarax since. here's some values from the latest blood test. shows high liver values than normal, which oddly enough increased from one doctor appointment from another, even though I hasn't frauded since (maybe because of the atarax?). I also rarely drink.

>>40120138
Fuckin faggot

>>40120157
Well that's just plain rude.

>>40120138
That's pretty messed up, especially with you keeping on top of a good diet as well.

>>40120157
m8, I only rek your dads anus to assert dominance, nothing gay about that.


but srsly, how does this work, is mast that bad for lipids?

>>40120138
God just hates you.

>>40120169

good fuck ur the same fucktard that keeps posting his disgusting ass body. Look at your face dude, you look about 5 minutes away from withering into ash. You make a fuckload of threads and it's easy to see how new you are.

Get the fuck off fit and swallow your tongue worthless cunt. And stop giving shit advice.

Back to r/fitness pls cunt. You're the second worst poser I've ever seen on here.

>>40120169
>>40120176

I think god really hates me.
Good thing that deca seems to be perfect for me. No sides and makes me look great.

I'll just see how my bloods look in a few weeks, and asses from there if it really was just the mast, or if I fucked up somewhere else.

Test/deca is love, test/deca is life

>>40120192
Really? everywhere I read it states that DHTs are the worst for cholesterol.
Welp, I'll up the cardio, and I just started cutting anyway, that should improve it a good bit.

>>40120150
That's really a minimal increase in liver values and probably insignificant. Atarax could cause an increase though it is a rare side effect (less than 0.1%). I don't think liver values and your rash have anything to do with each other.
Gluten most likely won't cause a rash. Can you post a clear picture of the rash or one you found on the internet which looks identical and explain where it is located ?
Do You have allergies? Astma ? Eczema? Or hay fever?

>>40120189
I think you've got the wrong person, there. Ive never made a thread, you can barely see my face in the the pictures I've posted, my bodies fine, and my advice has been well recieve thusfar, as, oddly enough, I DO know what I'm talking about.

Nice one though, pal.

>>40120225


its some shit that everyone uses as a copy pasta to alex now whenever he posts in random /fit/ threads, lol


good fuck ur the same fucktard that keeps posting his disgusting ass body. Look at your face dude, you look about 5 minutes away from withering into ash. You make a fuckload of threads and it's easy to see how new you are.

Get the fuck off fit and swallow your tongue worthless cunt. And stop giving shit advice.

Back to r/fitness pls cunt. You're the second worst poser I've ever seen on here.

>>40120213
Ffs, I gotta stop posting when I'm at work, it increases BAD cholesterol, lowers GOOD cholesterol, sorry pal

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>>40120244
Oh ffs. I've been gone too long

>>40120244
I’ve lurked /fraud/ since the early days and never even posted once, but now I have to break my silence to voice my concern about how much of a humongous gaping cunt alex seems to be.

I first thought it was all elaborate trolling, but the more I watch events unfold I come to think he’s actually genuinely like this.

You see, I am a tard wrangler by trade, and I’ve reached a point where I find more logic and sane thought in the incoherent sentence fragments of brutish Igor The Mongo who can’t even wipe his own arse at age 45 than I do in someone like alex tripfagging unironically.

I’m not even mad (inb4), I’m appalled and worried. Either you’re so starved for attention that you don’t notice the downward spiral it has pulled you into or your autism is way past any spectrum modern medicine has come up with. Jesus Christ this site has been on a downhill slope for years but you reign among the top ten of most idiotic users, along with people who have killed themselves or others, ruined people’s lives thoroughly, or got made into the laughing stock of half the internet by memes.

Don’t even bother replying, I will return to lurking silently like I always have as soon as I send this. Please reconsider some life choices, then overdose on something lethal. Fuck you very much.

>>40120262
>>40120244
FECK used the one that specifically mentions alex, meant the one targeted at anon. Ah whatever.

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>>40120262

>>40120262
thanks

>>40120272
You tried. I kek like a retard (like Igor hue) every time.

>>40120259
your trip even says y 2 new :^)

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>>40120222
I see.
I heard gluten intolerance could cause dermatitis herpetiformis which have similar rashes to mine, but apparently that's not the case because a gluten-free diet for a few weeks didn't make it any better.
I actually have a lengthy history of allergies, with pets, lactose and pollen/hay fever. Never anything that have lasted for literal months however.

I've actually documented it with images. It's not this bad all the time but this is about what it looks like when it's the worst. Sometimes they look really similar to allergy bumps, and I can tell with my experience with allergies (small, not always visible but just as itchy). On the hands and between the fingers they aren't bumps, but instead the skin is flakey and just as itchy. Because the rash shows up due to any pressure on the skin they are also very frequent in pits, back of the knee, groin area etc, but prevalent all over the body, likely from clothing. Heat also makes it worse (which is a problem because I shower before going to bed).

Thanks for caring btw, no doctor seems to.

>>40120314
Hmm. I suppose the trips new.

So this is probably going to sound retarded but bare with me here. Ran a couple of test cycles and trying tren for the first time. Bloods say my prolactin is good but the tren is messing with my estro readings.

Basically- if I'm getting puffy nipples and its not a prolactin problem then it has to be an e2 issue right? I'm not gonna end up crashing my estrogen while still getting gyno, yeah? Asking because I'm trying to dump adex for asin since no matter how much of this adex I take I still get all the high estro sides.

>>40120520
Im estro sensitive, but not sensitive to tren induced gyno, can run lowish test and as much tren as I want without issue, but can get estro gyno/sore nips with test without an ai.

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This is extremely bad right?

>>40120575
Yeah my cycle was going fine until I added some Test P to help with the sex drive and stuff. Got symptoms almost immediately and bumped the AI super high (1mg adex ED) but its either heavily underdosed or I need something stronger. Just want to make sure I'm not fixing the wrong issue with some third mystery cause of gyno.

man, test is doing weird things to me

I've always had a very low appetite, and I still do kinda but since I've started test it's like my brain tells me "you should eat something now" even though I don't feel hungry at all

I'm gaining weight faster than I've ever gained weight before in my life, I have to actively tell myself that I'm not hungry whenever I'm about to eat something

at least I'm going to leave skeleton mode I guess

>>40120598
Ive never tried adex, but asin 12.5mg ED works for me. Ive seen someone say that high estro can trigger/drive prolactin induced gyno too.

>>40120594
>360ish ng/dl
it's bad but not extremely bad

high enough that you will never get a trt script from a real doctor

>>40120598
>>40120605
I also take it with fats to help absorption, usually fish oil

>>40120601
>whatever it takes cmon

>>40120605
>asin 12.5mg ED works for me
picking some up tomorrow and thats how much I'll start with- thinking my current source just started underdosing shit since their prami had literally no sides aswell

>>40120594
enough to be a productive member of numale society but not enough to get a script from normal docs

>>40120618
I did E3D like some people suggested didnt do much, ED worked and I noticed within a week sensitivity was going away, going back to E3D and it came back. I find consistent ED dosing more effective than E3D or on test injection days (even with the asin dosage raised).

>>40120608
>>40120618
Is there any reason for me not to run a 4-month cycle right now?

>>40120634
it won't solve the underlying issue?

go on a lifelong cruise if you have low t issue. if you just do a cycle, you'll pct back to your shit levels and inevitably lose all your gains

>>40120594
>tfw had ~4 nmol/L post cycle
at least I didn't feel like jerking off more than once a week

>>40120647
Honestly, I wonder about that. He'll be rebooting his endrocine system, off chance it might improve.

He'll lose the water, nitrogen retention and glucogen, muscle tissue not so much, takes much longer to lose that.

>>40120661
Tfw came off without pct, tfw still have to jerk off

>>40120634
low dose life long cruise famalamadingdong

oh and if you ever quit your own production will be even worse

>>40120647
>>40120666
But for now is there any downside?

Seems like only pros, I'll be left with better than what I got now, at the very least.

>>40120676
Depends on dosage, and how you react

Potential down sides are the same for every one, hair loss (if you have mpb), cholesterol, blood pressure, etc.

You estrogen seems 'good' and so does your total test, your free test is a bit shit, which leads me to believe maybe high SHBG and high aromatisation.

>>40120686
I will do a 4 month run of 250mg test with 12.5mg Aromasin every other day.

Followed by nolvadex of 40/40/20/20 as PCT.

>>40120716
>4 month run of 250mg test with 12.5mg Aromasin every other day.

lots of AI for very little test. Don't bother with a cycle under 500 its not all that great

>>40120752
how much ai to take then

I'll get blood work done at ~6 weeks in to see where my e2 and everything is at and re-calibrate.

>>40120752
Check his bloods, reasonable total test, low free test, relatively high estro compared to that.

>>40120775
If you're doing 250mg of test per week you may not need AI. However your bloods suggest you aromatize fairly heavily so I would definitely have it just in case.

>>40120890
I have 100 pills of 12.5mg aromasin.

I don't want it to go to waste.

>>40120775
>>40120797
>>40120900

The AI isnt that much of an issue I just think you should bump the test. 250 is a cruise dose for a lot of people and not much higher than what some natties can build muscle wise (since there are more factors than test).

If you're going to cycle 500+ will offer real, noticable gains without requiring you to really do anything different from 250.

250 would be fine for some but you need AI anyways so may as well go bigger.

Do I have to worry about tren gyno on 400mg a week of Tren Ace?

>>40120902
But then will I lose them much quicker?

Let's say I was to only do two cycles ever. What would be the best way? Run it for a long time or do two shorter, but higher dose?

>>40120915
length is a lot more important than volume.

>>40120929
but that then brings in the issue of being harder to recover from, doesn't it?

>>40120915
>Let's say I was to only do two cycles ever.
More like, just like literally everyone else who says this, run one and see how good it is then never stop using

>>40120932
Love this meme, blast and cruise fag

>>40120902
His free test is low, so 250mg will be a big difference for him.

>>40120932
No, and you wont lose more, youll probably have more water etc which youll lose after stopping.

When you take exogenous testosterone your negative feed back loop from the hypothalmus reduces your test to try and match its normal test level, so if your dose is above your natty level (which it always is otherwise there wouldbt be a point) that reduction will basically be 100%, with LH and FSH shut down too.

tl;dr both 250 and 500 will both shut you down the same.

500mg will take 1 extra half life to clear to the same level as 250mg after stopping your last injection, so your recovery will potentially take a bit longer before it starts, its not harder.

>>40120970
Maybe senpai, maybe.

I'd just be worried about having to come off for whatever reason after like a few years and it being a disaster.

>>40120974
>tl;dr both 250 and 500 will both shut you down the same.

Yes I know but don't longer runs become harder to recover from since your HPTA is shutdown for far longer?

>500mg will take 1 extra half life to clear to the same level as 250mg after stopping your last injection, so your recovery will potentially take a bit longer before it starts, its not harder.

The question was rather "Would it be better to run 250mg a longer time than 500mg for a shorter cycle"

>every time a grill literally
> L O O K S (omg she really did guys)
>at me I just wanna talk to them so bad
>just paid 0 attention in class cuz this grill next to me kept literally
>L O O K I N G (omfg for real no bs)
>at me and playing with her stupid ass fucking hair so all class I was just struggling not to fantasize about pinning her down and fucking her

Face. Almost. Better. Just took more pilocarpine niggerchloride, time to start feeling vertigo and like I am gonna vomit piss and shit myself all day

If this pilocarpine "working" is just the usual coincidental glands going down for no reason, I am FUCKED. My dick is literally no joke half hard all day at this point

>>40120911
>do I have to worry about gyno when taking aromatizing steroids
yes

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>>40121001
Depends how much longer you want to run it.

500mg is only twice as much as 250mg.

According to the calc, an extra 4.5 days for the 500mg dose to clear to the same level as the 250mg dose.

If youre that worried about it, you can take 5mg LGD along side it, this will suppress SHBG and give you significantly more free test at the same dose.

You will definitely need an AI though because there will be more estrogen conversion and also barely any SHBG for it to bind to and make it inactive.

Let's say you were a natty. And you hypothetically had 6 vials of 250test, 2 bottles of 50x12.5 aromasin and 50x40mg of nolvadex.

Let's say you would never buy gear again. How would you make the most use of this?

Would you run a cruise dose until it ran out, or just run higher?

>>40121051

good fuck ur the same fucktard that keeps posting his disgusting ass body. Look at your face dude, you look about 5 minutes away from withering into ash. You make a fuckload of threads and it's easy to see how new you are.

Get the fuck off fit and swallow your tongue worthless cunt. And stop giving shit advice.

Back to r/fitness pls cunt. You're the second worst poser I've ever seen on here.

>>40121032
comedy gold

>>40121051
Its enough for more than half a year at 500mg. The asin may not be enough if you actually need it.

Also given that length your shbg may rise over time, I dont want to sound like a broken record here, but a sarm will keep that cycle effective over the long term.

>>40121051
That will depend entirely on your goals.

>never buy gear again
Sure friendo :)

>>40121068
b-b-but I don't make any threads... and I don't give any advice...

>>40121073
I read that wrong whoops
the tren itself won't aromatize but the compounds he should be taking with them do

>>40121081
Describe how you would best make use of this amount of gear.

>>40121086
The goals are to maximize a limited amount of gear.

>>40121116
Let me clarify: What are your fitness goals? There is no "best use" for steroids, other than taking them.

>>40121124
I'm not quite sure how to quantify it. I just want to build as much muscle as possible within a year of testosterone and then maintain most of it it forever with low bodyfat

>>40121116
>within a year
There's your answer.

300mg for 50 weeks, take 5mg LGD ED entire time. I know I keep pushing this, but it will keep the cycle effective by preventing SHBG from going up, add some of its own benefit, and make the dose as if it were a higher dose (SHBG will be crashed = the free test of a higher dose).

You will probably need more asin. Probably dont need to use it unless nip sensitivity crops up, then you might be able to get away with E2D depending.

At that length you may want to get bloods done.

Also for that length, eat well, and do some cardio to keep cholesterol and bp in check, or consider telmisartan.

>>40121134
If you want to build the most muscle possible you'd want higher doses, like 400+ for as long as you can.

>>40121134
You will definitely lose size coming off, but thats due to water, nitrogen, glucogen etc.

>>40121165
Is Cap shilling sarms now too?

>>40121165
where the hell do I get LGD

It looks pretty sketchy

What would PCT look like for that long of a run, need HCG probably right? Just nolva won't cut it?

>>40121167
>>40121174
will i retain a considerable amount? That's all I really want. Just to maintain otter mode

>>40121177
Cap?

I know from experience its a strong combo, but estro can really snow ball if you dont keep it in check while doing this.

>>40121194
irc dot bio carries it, should be fine to name them since they dont carry any steroids.

Its cheaper from there since its raw powder, you can get liquid solvent from there too.

Theres another raw powder size, but they carry a tonne of roid raws so I cant name them.

Ostarine should work to suppress shbg too, but LGD is a stronger anabolic and adds more to a cycle.

>>40121027
literally worse than FL

>>40121032
>Tren
>Aromatizing

I have some news for you, anon ...

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>>40121222

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Who here mixes their own powders? What oil do you use? I was told extra virgin olive oil works well.
Also, how to prevent the powder from settling and successfully mixing in?
I made my 1st batch but alot of the powder just sits at the bottom so idk how much im injecting.

>>40121217
Okay ill look into it but what about pct for this proposed run?

>>40121222
I am actively resisting for a few more days

My face is gonna be better by the end of the week and I can shave this stupid ass beard

Fuck

>>40121224
see >>40121114

>>40121239
oh my god.

You need to filter it with a sterile filter into a sterile vial before injecting.

And you should use something like grape seed oil which is still easy to get.

And a small amount of benzyl benzoate and benzyl alcohol

>>40121243
Same. The clearing time will be the same, so pct timing is the same.

LGD has a very short half life, it doesnt impact pct timing.

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>>40121254

>>40121265
familia you did not cover how i should go with PCT for this.

I'd imagine the standard 40/40/20/20 nolvadex as said on r/steroids wiki for 12-16 week cycles. wouldn't be enough if I run 300mg for 50 weeks

>>40121293
I cant tell you from personal experience, since I havent done something continously for that long.

But youre shut down just as hard as 12-16 weeks, and the clearing time is the same. Theoretically I dont see a big difference, but you wont know until you do it.

>>40121239
dude hahahaha

>but alot of the powder just sits at the bottom so idk how much im injecting.
hahahaha

the idea that someone would brew roids without looking into anything first and then just inject that shit... god, that's good

>tfw been eating chicken breast and beans/peas every meal for a while now
>think I'll just eat a kilogram of bio yogurt and casein instead for work to shake things up
>actually feel bad since "it wouldn't feel right"

fucking hell

>>40121325
Not to argue but senpai this seems contrary to everything I've read... Why do you believe that shutdown and recovery for 50 weeks would be the same as 12-16?

Losers.

>>40121348
Because youre shut down within a few weeks of taking supraphysiological doses of testosterone. You cant get any more shut down than that.

The compound clears just as fast since its the same compound and ester.

Your hypothalmus picks up lack of test and estrogen in your system and restarts, pct just helps speed that along and also raises LH and FSH higher than they normally are at every stage along the way.

The only difference is a long time between starting up FSH/LH and test production from scratch.

The only thing Ive heard like that is a bodybuilder who abused high doses for years before coming off apparently couldnt recover, a single injection of triptorelin fixed him up iirc.

That and people who take something like deca, which any amount keeps you shut down, and has a longer ester with long clearing time, and those who get any of it in scar tissue which takes even longer to clear.

Are you thinking about people saying time on = time off saying?

Regardless, plan for the worse outcome is always a safe bet, so that its there if you need it, doesnt matter if you dont end up needing it.

>>40121416
>Because youre shut down within a few weeks of taking supraphysiological doses of testosterone. You cant get any more shut down than that.
>The compound clears just as fast since its the same compound and ester.

But the fact that your balls aren't working for a much longer period of time...

Anyways how would you pct this? Would 50 x 40mg nolva be enough?

Hey guys i was thinking of doing my first cycle as orals only. Not sure about the needle thing.
How is a dbol+s4+LGD stack sound? Maybe add in mk677?

>>40121416
hey please stop giving advice

the amount of shutdown doesn't change, the length does and it's very important. say you're bncing for 3 years, you really think 4 weeks of nolva will work just as well as it would for someone coming off a 12 weeks cycle?

Jesus man

>>40121542
can you help me then at least senpai

>>40121462
S4 has bad sides, pls avoid it.

Have you done dbol before? Youre gonna get shut down instead of just suppressed, and probably some sore nipples and bloat.

MK677 is good with LGD, the hunger is good.

If you want a compound to replace S4 with and gonna do dbol anyway, do YK11.

But ideally I would drop the dbol and s4 and take test.

Test + LGD + MK677 + YK11
I know you not sure about the needle thing, but its a lot better, stacked with LGD (as above) you can lower the dosage of test as itll give you an effective higher dosage, with the lower dosage will be a lower pinning volume, which means subq in belly fat becomes viable, though it can sting a bit, theres no muscle pip.


If you still want oral only and dbol then have an ai like asin you might well need it (I do on dbol).

Ment is orally active too btw and can be a replacement for test, so you could consider that instead of dbol.

>>40121462
You don't need to stack your first cycle. Just take Dbol.

>>40121542
>various compounds and complications
>3 years
>vs less than a year and test only

>>40121462
You need to inject to make any serious gains. With a handful of exceptions every steroid needs a base of testosterone unless you wanna fell like you're 80 years old.

>>40121556
If you're planning on running a cycle longer than 20 weeks you'll want clomid, nolva and HCG. That or triptorelin.

>>40121605
should i just break it up into 2 or 3 cycles then??

>Let's say you were a natty. And you hypothetically had 6 vials of 250test, 2 bottles of 50x12.5 aromasin and 50x40mg of nolvadex.
>Let's say you would never buy gear again. How would you make the most use of this?

>>40121027
you are literally fatlifts without any redeeming feature he might at least have. fucking end yourself.

>>40120339
Sorry for the late response I was busy.
It seems to be mostly a type of eczema which would explain heat making it worse. And the location on the hands is very specific for that also the flakiness and itchiness makes me think of that. Especially your second and third image of the hands are very suspect of it.
Btw these are definitely not urticaria and it seems to be very unlikely that it is caused by a reaction to any medication. Also now I see your skin I can tell you the antihistamines aren't gonna help this is definitely a type IV immune reaction and not urticaria.

I think it neither is a contact allergie because the location is not specific at all.
I am currently thinking of the following possibilities:
'Regular' atopic eczema :treat with very fat creme and maybe some corticosteroid cream for the hotspots.
Scabies: unlikely unless someone in your environment has it too (gf? Or maybe other sexual partners ?) or you have been to developing countries or eastern countries recently. Treatment would be permetrine creme over full body and washing all your clothes/sheets then again 1 week after.
Ide reaction to a fungal infection somewhere (only if you have onychomycosis ) you would need to treat the mycosis to treat the reaction.


Either way I would start with a lot of fat cream on all the spots, showering less often and if it doesn't get better find another doctor.

>>40121611
Nah no point doing two cycles right next to each other, PCT is stressful on your body and it's usually better to just do it once. Plenty of people come off from years of blasting and recover just fine.

Tbqh it seems like you haven't really done much research into this, you might wanna hold off on the rons for a few months while you figure this stuff out.

>>40121556
you're the guy with 6 vials right?

I'd do 12 weeks of 500mg/week, that's 6g out of your total 15
cruise on 250mg/week for 12 weeks, that's 3 more grams
then another blast of 500mg/week for 12
then pct and stop roiding forever (lol)

6+3+6=15g, exactly 6 vials.

that's cutting it too close though, you will never get exactly 10ml out of every vial, so either cruise on 200mg or buy one more vial.

you will also most likely need more asin and a more significant pct. power pct to be safe when coming off longterm blasts or at least just clomid + nolva, though I wouldn't risk it

or you could just buy more nolva and asin and just do two cycles without cruising in-between

>>40121239
please post pics of your festering rotting injection sites ASAP

6/10 if b8, chuckled heartily

>>40121655
I've done research but I keep reading contradictory advice.

On the one hand people recommend just cycles of 500mg test-e for gains. but at the very same time other people say "Just do 250mg test for a year and you'll be gravy".

>>40121658
This sounds good.

What do you mean by "power pct"? I'd probably pickup HCG somewhere along the line

>>40121709
power pct is a protocol by some sports doctor, some obscene amount of hcg + nolva + clomid basically.

>>40121746
Oh.

I should I'm a bit of a dyel that's why I was considering lower dose but longer not to get overwhelmed or have tendon injury or anything

>>40121751
I've ran test 250 q week, it's great and if you work hard with a good diet (I was on keto w/ high protein) youll make gains.
Now I'm cutting on 100mg with var and have kept my strength but lost just a little mass.

For everyone else, do you get itchy scalps from var or is that my e2 crashing

its been 4 weeks. my doctor still hasnt done a blood test yet. even after multiple people told me they normaly do them 3-4 weeks after your first test then 3-4 months after that one.
i have all this test so i can start a small blast 300mg test c inbetween blood panels and its just sitting here who knows for how long. 2 more week. 5, a month 2, 3 months. fuck me.

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>>40121639
It's fine, thanks again for caring at all.

Well eczema is dermatitis which I considered, as mentioned. I wonder if the flakes+spots over the rest of the body together gives any hint to what it could be.
>definitely not urticaria
I suspected as much, the doctor who gave me that diagnose was a newbie who dropped spagetthi all over the place.
>type IV immune reaction
this narrows the cause down quite I bit I would imagine
>neither is a contact allergie because the location is not specific at all
I mean I still think so, because if I rest my arm against some surface it becomes red and itchy, like any surface, wood or whatever. Also if I for example scratch/create friction against my arm (where there currently isn't an itch) with my own hand, that area becomes itchy. I also found out that when I did the blood tests I got a large bandaid on my 'elbow pit' and when I removed the bandaid that day it left a mark for like 5 days afterwards. Seems my skin has become shit on healing itself since.
>'Regular' atopic eczema
it's pretty difficult treating all of the hotspots when they're all over my body, but yeah I'm currently using hydrocortisone cream when it gets really bad. it's not a long term solution though..
>scabies
my doctor's superior suspected this too, and so did I because the itch actually wakes me up sometimes at night which is common with scabies, so I decided to treat myself thoroughly (including anus and penis fuck that hurt) with Tenutex, but it didn't get any better, not even temporarily. I'm single and haven't traveled recently.

>>40121639
I also want to emphasis on that I got these symptoms after a seemingly regular 2 days fever late october. It started with the lethargy which persisted even after the fever went away, coupled with some fucked up scalp twitching (feels somewhat like eye lid twitching but all over the scalp). The doctor just guessed it had to do with my itch keeping me up at night, but the itch appeared like a week after the fever.

I'll try treating the worse spots with fat cream and see what happens. I'm also going to demand a referral to a real dermatologist from my clown doctors, but I don't see how they could help with the lethargy/scalp thing.

Are you a doctor btw? You're very knowledgeable.

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>>40113880
So i have this left over from previous cycles:
50ml x test E
40ml x Masteron P
10ml x Tren E
50 x 50mg Dbol
50 x 50mg Winny

How do you guys recommend me getting the most out of this? im thinking a 12 week cycle on test throughout, d-bol week 1-4 and then blasting through all the leftover tren week 4-8, and finishing with masteron for the cutting phase (week 8-12)

I'm also tempted to use Winstrol the last 4 weeks but using two orals in one cycle must be overkill on the liver?

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> looking over 'celebs' that support Hillary and 'celebs' that support Trump
> the Hillary supporters seem soul-less... they remind me of the Screen Actor's Guild from Team America
> start researching each 'celeb' and there's definitely a pattern
> Team America: World Police is from the South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, self-hating Canadian Jews
> last season of South Park reached the conclusion that only corporate advertisements can survive in a politically correct world
> in this season, a master troll tricked Denmark into trying to destroy the world by demonizing trolls/4chan and invading everyone's privacy
> and Mr. Garrison gets elected president even though he does everything he can to not get elected, then the kids manipulate him into helping save the world

What are they trying to tell us?

>>40122039
where did you get the idea that Matt Stone and trey Parker are Canadian? besides your craziness

>>40118387
> failed attempts
Like everyone else

>>40118542
I managed to regrow hair on masteron while still losing hair, don't ask me how.

still on masteron @ 80mg

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Where do you guys buy TUDCA? I see 25g from gunshow for $40 raw, most of the capped ones are 15g total for ~$30.

Is there a difference in how many calories you need to consume for maintaining the same weight as a natty vs enhanced?

Considering all other factors are the same besides one is natty and the other isn't

Do you burn more calories just by being on aas?

>>40122341
no

>TFW bought gear for first cycle
>TFW keep getting fucked up neurological symptoms I need to get checked out (regular head pains, eye floaters, bit of nausea, feet regularly pins n needles, frequent muscle twitching, eyes getting extremely tired)

Would I be a retard to pin now?

Or do you guys think it can't harm anything and i should be fine to get started?

I'm just worried it'll be hard to tell sides of gear from whatever the fuck this IS/..

Thoughts?

>>40122540
I dunno man was your source legit?
I would just pin test 100 and go from there

>>40122553
Yeah source super well reputed

I'm just really worried about these symptoms and it seems risky mixing in bathtub chemicals when I'm clearly not well for both it making it somehow worse and also being hard to tell what's the gear and what's my health.

>>40122540
lol are you stupid

fix your existing conditions before you inject bathtub chemicals in your ass

>>40122585
I'm in Canada though, going to take fucking forever to get it all checked.

Would it really be harmful to run a cycle with this going on?

>>40122607
Only one way to find out. You want to live forever?

>>40122607
dude you have no idea what the fuck is happening with you, how does this sound like a good idea to you exactly?

maybe it's nothing and you'll be fine, but why would you risk it? what if whatever you have already is fucking your lipids and you add steroids on top of that? or maybe your bp is already sky-high?

you are why people die doing this shit. have some patience, steroids aren't going anywhere.

>>40122658
I already have them though and I don't want them to expire or lose potency. I've waited a while as it is anyway as this has been pretty persistent

Idk man. When you say it like that I guess it really is a stupid question to ask. Even losing a few hundred dollars wouldn't be a big deal compared to literally dying.

As for lipids I can just get bloodwork done right now I suppose

I'm just scared it's a fuckin brain tumor or some shit. Shits scary senpai

>>40122693
well, no one with any kind of conscience will tell you to roid when you possibly already have something wrong with you.

but you seem insistent, so at least do your due diligences and eliminate the most issues you can think of. run a complete blood panel including pretty much everything possible, check your bp, etc. it still won't be a good idea but at least it's something.

btw, pins and needles in feet is a very common symptom of diabetes... hey at least if it's that you can still roid

>>40122794
Dude basically I've felt like shit since March or so.

Got a CT scan then MRI of my head done and they said it was fine, did blood work for most things - also said it was fine.

Still feel like fuckin shit. The biggest thing is my head hurts more often than not, even single day, my vision is kinda fucked and I feel like my attention, intelligence and memory is screwed too. Really not sure what to do now.

Guess I could try a second and third opinion. Because it feels like if it's this persistent it could be something serious like cancer... And obviously don't wanna wait around hoping it's nothing. I just don't know.

I'm still lifting, doing cardio, living my life but super worried

>>40121637
>me
>grills come on to me and I don't want to fuck them because I feel/felt like a shit ass cuckold so I get them to fuck off, sometimes I actually literally have said fuck off
>literally have made sluts fuck off from my dorm room when they were getting all touchy because as a low test faggot I found pleasure in pissing girls off like that

>fatlifts
>posts how he gets blackout drunk at work then got fired after getting rejected by the only female (who also happened to be like 12) that ever
>L O O K E D
>at him

I wonder how he is gonna react in a few days or a week or whatever the fuck when my face is better and I start actually taking what is handed to me on a silver platter

>>40122919
lol please.

you've even shared stories of you autismo-ing before the glands

you're a beta through and through. you'll find something else to obsess about once the glands are gone

>>40122961
Before the glands I was low test, wtf do u expect I had no sex drive and could barely even get fucking hard, and had no test in my body

>>40122985
Well I could but it took a while actually

>brb going shopping in preparation, gonna buy the most fuccboi retarded shit

>>40122961
Also that is a different kind of shit. Most faggots (and fat lifts) are like "hur why can't i ever attract a fucking female omfg aryan waifus pol 4th reich now omfg men going their own way anime sex dolls are the future" , use ur brain that is retardedly different

>>40121913
>>40121908
Your story saying it started after a fever is something I don't recognize. Though sometimes a rash will appear after a virus infection it usually doesn't itch and will go away by itself within a week or two.. so it doesn't sound like that.
The problems on your hands definitely look like eczema and whatever the cause treatment is fatty cream and corticosteroids. Its largely unknown why it really happens but the fact is the skin becomes dry and anything that further dried out the skin (heating, sweating, taking showers, water) will make it worse.
The spots on your stomach look completely different which is why I suggested scabies... but if you've been treated that can't be it. Please note that it might take several weeks after treatment before the symptoms reside tho.
Your background of allergies is very suggestive of eczema too there is a strong correlation between that.

Just see what you can achieve yourself with the cream but your story is unlike anything I readily recognize, it would be more than appropriate to refer you to a dermatologist.

Not a doctor yet, but in a year I am. Happy you appreciate the help even tho I didn't suggest much new things.

So do sarms really work? Was gonna run first cycle soon of just test but the sarm plus test shilling makes me wonder.

>>40123153
No.

>>40123209
Figured. Fuggin faggit shills btfo.

>>40122540
help pls

>>40122540
Figure your current issues out first.
Before your doc blames the steroids and you lose job and house.

>>40122837
you might literally have diabetes

>>40123330
I'm in fucking Soviet Canuckistan, by the time I get this all figured out (assuming I'm not dead from my tumor growth) all my gear will have expired.

>>40123366
>expired
how long do you think itll take? gear keeps for years dude, think youll be diagnosed by 2020?

>>40123388
Kek, maybe if I'm lucky and really push for it.

Plus doesn't seem like it lasts that long. Isn't pharma like 2-3 years? UGL shouldn't be that long I'd guess.

>>40123396
as long as its sterile and sealed it should really keep just about forever as long as its kept dark and ~at room temperature, the pharma expiry date is more of a formality

>>40123475
fuck this retard country tho senpai

Kinda frustrating how hard it is to get medical attention here

>>40123493
Move to kenya

>>40123493
>people then bitch about US healthcare

Good thing about having doctor so called parents too, they just use their gook connections and get you in with anyone you want the same day

One of my specialist appointments was supposed to take 3 weeks but I got in same day. Even though they were useless shit anyway

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>>40123506
Considering it to be honest.

Nairobi looks dope.

>>40123520
There's a reason Canadians leave to the US to get their surgeries done by record numbers each year.

For minor things or legitimately dying isn't bad here but some things in the middle are really messed up in terms of wait-times, plus actually finding a decent doctor. Like I'm researching neurologists for headache shit and the reviews are saying they're pretty good but takes like 5-6 months to actually see them for first appointment.

>>40122137
Not to start Mandela effect shit, but I was under the assumption they were Canadian weirdos.

>>40123311
>>40123366
>>40123396
>still trying to get someone to tell you to fuck it and roid

just do it, that's all you're waiting for and you're going to ignore everyone telling you it's a bad idea.

do it pussy. yolo.

>>40123754
Senpai I know it's a bad idea but it's going to take me forever to get this checked anyway. I'm just thinking what's honestly the worst that can happen.

If I find out it's something really bad I can always just stop and deal with pct early and if it's nothing then I just wasted time on nothing.

>>40123774
Im not him and im in a similar position as you (wanting to start a first cycle, bought gear but having doubts about it etc) but seriously
GO FIX YOUR CURRENT ISSUES even if it takes a long ass time

What if you get HORRIBLE side effects? how will you know if they are from the roids or something thats preexisting?

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>>40122137
>>40123694

Well, in the previous universe I was in, Matt Stone and Trey Parker were Canadian Jews. It was part of the reason they poked fun at Canada in every episode... if that's even true anymore.

>>40123821
Well this shit has been going on for quite a while.

It's either a legit cancerous tumor growth or something benign and easily treatable. I see little downside. If I'm going to die from brain cancer I'm going to die anyways, at least I can make some gains before and at least lift my spirits and remain positive from higher test.

>(wanting to start a first cycle, bought gear but having doubts about it etc)
You too huh?

>>40123694
>Not to start Mandela effect shit,
>>40123888
>Well, in the previous universe I was in, Matt Stone and Trey Parker were Canadian Jews

now look what you've done bimbo

>>40123774
dying isn't that big a deal

yolo

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Opinions on this split:

Chest/Anterior Delts/Tri's (5/3/1 Bench)
Back/Posterior Delts/Bi's (5/3/1 DL)
Legs/Lateral Delts/Abs (5/3/1 Squat)
Rest
Chest/Back
Biceps/Triceps/Delts
Rest

as compared to
Chest/Anterior Delts/Tri's (5/3/1 Bench)
Back/Posterior Delts/Bi's (5/3/1 DL)
Legs/Lateral Delts/Abs (5/3/1 Squat)
Rest
Repeat (Without 5/3/1 progression and 4x6 straight sets on big 3)

Specific application is to bring up lagging arms/chest and dropping some focus on legs.

>>40123953
Here is whats going to happen if you check it out
1. Its nothing and you can start a cycle or struggle to do it as much as you like
2. You find out its something treatable or untreatable and proceed accordingly

If you want to roid after getting the bad news then by all means but dont go thinking its brain cancer without knowing

Yeah ive been having second thoughts because even if im just gonna do one cycle to help me on my way towards my goal the side effects are depressing
Not that erectile dysfunction and sterility worry me all too much, after the last gf ive found it impossible to find a new dateable or even fuckable girl but still, with my luck one cycle test will prolly give me ED and right after i will find a 10/10 girl who wants to fuck

Anyone got an opinion on Ment?

>>40124046
Lol i don't think it works that way bro. Your cock will be fine.

I know idiots at my gym who blast at like 15 years old, do oral-only cycles, no PCT, etc etc etc. They're fine. I doubt what you think is going to happen is going to happen.

But yeah im pretty freaked out about this whole situation for myself. Really gotta get it checked. Worst thing it's been so prolonged

>>40124082
i think you would enjoy the ment

>>40124083
>They're fine
Well the skeptic in me wants to say "How do you know?" because arguably they could just say they are fine but in reality its not really so cool
I mean ive read stories about guys who stepped of cycles and their testies are still shrunken

Im reading up and figuring out what to do but its my problem and i need to deal with it

You need to check yourself out, i know its scary and your instinct tells you to ignore it and hopefully it gets better but nothing bad will come from knowing
Doctors are there to help, use em

>>40124157
Cool thx

>>40115881
Jesus

What's good /fraud./. A year ago I got my Testosterone taken and it was ~430. I went into the test 100% normally.

This morning I got it drawn again but I made a few adjustments. Over the past week I've only gotten ~5 hours of sleep a night with NO sleep last night. I've also been drinking three cups of licorice tea a day for the past few days as well.

Any thoughts on the likely hood that I'll be down into the TRT range?

Take it easy, duders.

>>40124271

Age?

>>40124281


Oh, duh. 27

>>40124167
>You need to check yourself out, i know its scary and your instinct tells you to ignore it and hopefully it gets better but nothing bad will come from knowing
>Doctors are there to help, use em

It's just here in Canada it's so painstakingly slow. But true man, I really need to take better care and more initiative instead of bitching about it.

>>40124300

Why not go UGL?

>>40124271
it's possible

but there's no point in speculating, you're going to get the results back soon anyway. it's too late to worry about it.

>>40124300
Why would you wanna scam yourself into a life long of medication when you are perfectly fine... did you even roid before? Do you know how bothersome its gonna be to Inject yourself for the rest of your life ?

>>40123993
would prefer second, cannot give hard reason why tho kek

>>40124311

Because I started having the low T symptoms when I was active duty military. I am currently in the reserves and still on Tricare so I could potentially have the VA on the hook for my pharma grade test for life.

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>>40124263
thanks for posting kek

>>40124271
Seems retarded man.

Why do you try to scam yourself into this shit? I'm with the other anon, either try to maximize your natty testosterone and stay natty, or go all-out and buy UGL gear and go hard.

No point when you're likely going to get like 100mg test-c/TWO weeks, by a doctor who has no idea what anything is

>>40124313
It'll be two weeks till it comes back. Just wanted to come shoot the shit here. Gotta be better than Glands sperging out, right?

>>40124317
I've been having Low T symptoms. My dad is a doc and he thinks I should get on no matter what my results are, but my PCP doesn't share the same enthusiasm

>>40124384
>Two weeks

Wtf?

it takes a single day to get your hormonal(and most other) bloodwork results. Maybe a few more days for necessary doctors to get it. Do you not have online checking service for your blood lab?

>I've been having Low T symptoms
Have you tried addressing all the big testosterone-affecting factors?

Honestly you're going to be pretty disenfranchised with what you'll get it, mostly likely. Just buy testosterone online from sst and run 250mg/wk forever. Cheaper, easier and much better than what you'll get most likely.

>>40124374
If it doesn't work out, I'll probably just go UGL. It just become a situation where I've got to convince the wife to be cool with it. She's actually a nurse and the one who told me to go get my T checked in the first place. She's really uptight though so the UGL thing will make her uncomfortable.

It'll all work out in the end

>>40124384
>but my PCP doesn't share the same enthusiasm
that's not good for you my man

docs know dick all about trt, you will most certainly be put on some retarded once every two weeks injection protocol

scripts are good if you travel a lot, otherwise you're better off self-medicating... unless your doc is a bro

>>40124441
How did you get a wife if youre low T?
This world is so strange sometimes

>>40124436
Nope. Got them drawn on base and they have to ship out to Lab Corp. 2 weeks.

Either way it comes back, given what you guys are saying I may just go UGT either way. Thanks for the advice,dudes.

>>40124263
>"Overused meme picture mode"

>>40124464
I have head trauma from my time in the service. There is some pretty compelling research linking it to hormonal problems.

Go ahead, make your jokes. :D

>>40124464
Not him but you'd be surprised

There's people who are absolute nu-male looking yet are investment bankers and have a supermodel gf.

>>40124480
It's just a lot easier. Still though it wouldn't hurt to have a script for pharma TRT. Definitely not a bad thing

>>40124519
>tfw a retard has a wife and I don't

>>40124464
>implying serum testosterone level is the deciding factor of whether you get married or not
news flash: you arent a pussy because you have low t, youre just a pussy
getting on roids will not turn you into chad, just look at this thread as proof

>>40124545

And your taxes may end up paying for my test. Lol... Who am I kidding, you're probably a NEET.

>>40124559
This. If you're a faggot then you're a faggot.

Your problem isn't your fucking T it's your attitude

>>40124519
>Go ahead, make your jokes. :D
Nah, youre in a difficult position enough as it is and i dont want to

>>40124523
If fit is to be believed its high test alpha males only who are sought after by girls but aparently not

>>40124559
High test should be more attractive but like i said im amazed at how the world works sometimes