>Do NOFAP >1.5 weeks in >Gym sessions feel easier >140kg

>>40038565
I have no way to prove this but I don't think it's the nofap, I think it's the noporn. At least I'm assuming you also stopped watching porn. That has by far had the best results from me. I jerk off 1-2 times every 2 weeks now too instead of just not doing it at all and nothing bad has happened yet.

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>>40038593
I sometimes wonder on porn, and always see it on other boards. Not jacking off has given me this extra energy and not some "noporn" bullshit. Watching porn probably wont lower your testosterone, but not jacking off raises it.

I fucking love it so far.

>>40038600
It doesn't raise it. It's been studied and it doesn't give a lasting testosterone boost.

>>40038665
Yes it does you dumb nigger, on day 7 is when your test peaks.

Nofap is legit. Ill nofap for a couole days m, fap and feel exhausted and weak and shit. Once i nofap another couple days, talking to bitches, lifting and life get easier. I also got low seratonin and depression, could be linked idk. Whenever i fuck a bitch on nofap tho, the next day feel weak af it's ass amd im pretty sure that proves nofap. After jizzing either estrogen or test get released and needs time to build up. Nofap or not ill stoll get hard af.

>>40038565
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

>>40038696
I find things like squatting so fucking HARD when i ejaculate especially before a session and i'm talking (1-2 hours)

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>>40038565
Didn't fap for like 1 day. Had a wet dream. Feels bad man.

>>40038667
He said lasting you absolute drooling retard. A 12 hour peak of a small additional amount of free test is your reward for not jerking it for 7 days, and after that, your test decreases to lower than normal levels. You can get the same effect from a night of drinking, literally. The alcohol lowers your T overnight, you wake up to a spike in T that brings it a bit above normal, then it goes back down to normal after about 12 hours. Same benefit, no need to not jerk off for a week.
Additionally, "free test" is the test that exists in your body, but active test, the stuff circulating in your blood that actually matters, doesn't even see a fuckig spike during NoFap.
So nice try, but you're both stupid and wrong.

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>>40038728
What the fuck, why NOFAP then?

>>40038733
You don't, it's a fucking meme.

>>40038728
your test never decreases lower than usual after fap. stop with this meme

>>40038733
Because people have been brainwashed by a sycophantic self loathing Christian homo who is afraid of his own sexuality and therefore started a crusade against all male sexuality for anything other than procreation.

>>40038733

Because fapping gives you a free shot of dopamine, literally the only thing you do anything in life for.

Normally productive people do what they do because their bodies are used to knowing that constant focus and effort on something produced a steady supply of dopamine, and are able to focus on long term goals thanks to that.

But obsessive masturbation trains your brain to know that there's an easier way.

Why study hours each day, for months, just to get a couple dozen nanograms of dopamine, when you can get a bigger amount, immediately, just by masturbating?

The aspects of NoFap like test increase, super powers, and whatever they might peddle, are bullshit. The only scientifically sound effect is this one, especially for chronic masturbators.

Habitual masturbation performed to combat boredom, or in stead of actual important stuff, trains a brain to lose pretty much all of it's ability to commit to long term goals, on a level deep enough that it fucking shows up on CAT scans.

Fapping habitually literally changes your brain on a physical level.

It's not a meme.

Anyone who has done the 90 days has given strong feedback as to its benefits.

Not entirely sure how controlling sexual energy is a bad thing.

>>40038565

It more has to do with the way dopamine rewarding works in the brain, it isn't a testosterone thing.
I stopped playing video games recently and had the same exact results as OP. I haven't had the urge to look at porn or fap in weeks.
I started playing overwatch again and I started jerking to porn daily again, 2 days ago.
I would also explain why NOPORN works. You're still fapping but you aren't getting the extra dopamine boost from the visual aid, porn.

I'm guessing that the urge to jerk to porn is your brain fiending for a dopamine fix more than it is about sexual urges, IMO.

>>40038754

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with test.
We have enough retards on here who think "Durrrr, test= penis, so cum = test lost!!"

>>40038696
>Your anecdotal experience and placebo effect prove NoFap
Please, stop being such a faggot and post some real studies.

>>40038759
>>40038750
You guys are (somewhat) right. You're exaggerating the effects of masturbation in the general population, to be sure, but hyperbole for effect is allowed.
If you're a chronic masturbator, the same way if you have any other psychological addiction (TV, video games, porn, weed, etc) and it is negatively impacting your life because all you can do in your free time is indulge this habit, especially to the point when you begin to indulge it during times you should be fulfilling responsibilities, then yeah, maybe you need to quit the habit cold turkey to break the cycle. This is what NoFap can be good for.
Other than that, if you just jerk off once before bed or a few times a week or whatever, it's a total meme.

>>40038766

I didn't say there was extra test.

What I am saying is that there are a lot of benefits that people seem to experience while doing nofap.

>>40038795
>if you just jerk off once before bed

If feel the need to do that every single day you're still a dopamine addled addict.
Masturbating more than 3-4 times per week is a high enough dose of dopamine to make the addiction kick in.

The addiction derived from videogames and other 'habits' isn't even comparable.
The only thing in the list of examples you made that's actually true is weed, because like masturbation is gives you a disproportionate amount of "fullfilment chemicals" without having to do anything for them.

>>40038772

Not him, but at least in the short term there is no discussion on the reality that fapping makes you weaker.

Not in some bullshit broscience "less test" way, but simply because directly after exaculation your system is flooded with serotonine, which makes you sluggish and sleepy.
It's why people say that fapping helps them sleep, or why the stereotype of the dude fucking then falling asleep right after exists.

But if you're the type fapping every day, during the day, it means that you have hours every single day in which you have no energy and are just craving for some rest, even if you don't feel physically tired.

>>40038840
Again, please post real studies.

>>40038747
Im pretty sure that made any sense in your head,

Shoulve kept it in it.

>>40038858

http://www.besthealthmag.ca/best-you/relationships/why-men-fall-asleep-after-sex/
http://www.livescience.com/32445-why-do-guys-get-sleepy-after-sex.html

Again, this is only in the short term, but it still affects your entire life if you're the kind of person that faps every day, or close to it.
It's why people who masturbate often tend to be very unaccomplished in their lives, there's never the energy to commit to anything.

>>40038696
>placebo
Placebo is when you are fucking told that X does Y -- it's not placebo when after reducing the amount of times you fap to just once per week, you suddenly notice your life picking up.

>>40038750
I masturbate at least 2 to 3 times a day and I can attest to the truthfulness of this.

Masturbation fucks your head up.

>>40038902
Except you are making a conscious effort to not fap thinking things will improve and due to your attitude it does.

What's that called again?

>>40038924
>conscious effort
It became a conscious effort once I've started noticing the pattern, not the other way around.

>>40038875
Thanks for the links, but I don't see how can this be negative if you fap just before going to sleep, or if you'll recover briefly after.

I'm talking about studies that show real benefits of NoFap posted by some people here: confidence boost, better and stronger erections, increased testosterone in LT, ability to focus, etc.
Masturbation has been proven to be natural and healthy for years, if you manage to disprove it is going to be a real revolution.

>inb4 he fell for the Jew meme.

>>40038969
Yes, you definitely did fall for the Jewish tricks.

>>40038962
So when you started NoFap you had never heard of its alleged benefits. So why did you start Nofap?

>>40038969

There's an entire site and a slew of scientists whose only work is trying to show you this.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/

Increased test is bullshit, it's broscience that you must be clinically retarded to believe.
And all the other effects are caused by the brain getting a normal amount of dopamine.
Fap addicts are like crackwhores. They can do absolutely nothing in life because they need their high.

Also
>Masturbation has been proven to be natural and healthy for years,

Dude are you fucking serious
The amount of masturbation considered "healthy" by those few pseudo-studies that say it helps your dick and your prostate is like twice a week.
And even then, it doesn't say masturbation, it says "ejaculation, ideally sex"

>>40038728

>Calls serum Testosterone 'free test'
>calls free test 'active test'

Youre as bigger tard as he is faggot

>>40000000

>>40038969
Think of it like taking a bath, you get clean, fresh and smell good, but if you start taking showers religiously your skin and scalp lose their natural oils, they become dry, and you could get dandruff.

Masturbating 2-3 times a week is cool, 2-3 times a day isn't, you waste time looking for porn, you waste time fapping, you waste time resting.

The "bliss" after masturbating makes you timid, you don't crave pussy as much, you don't feel like doing anything worth while or want to interact with anyone, you become docile.

The goal of living as a male is to fuck as many females as you can and spread your diseased genes whatever way or cost, but why do anything that betters your chances or improves your life and gets you closer to your goals if you can just open up a web page and see the raunchiest shit you'll never even get to experience in your lifetime and masturbate furiously to it.

>>40038565
NoFap is bullshit. You're just placeboing yourself, you fucking idiot. Of course, I should have expected as much from a moron who actually tried NoFap.

>>40039020
Also as anon pointed out the dopamine balance in your brain gets fucked, you get used to the high, it's like telling a fat person how fucked up their body and their life is and why they should work on losing weight and getting fit, they'll just listen to you then go eat a bowl of ice cream followed by a chocolate cake, their bodies and heads are already fucked.

>>40038986
Being a fap addict is not the same as being a normal person with a normal masturbatory/sexual habit.
While I agree that cutting out fapping to people who are really obssessed with it (3 or more times per day every day), I disagree it's going to help at all to any person who is not an addict.

Ejaculation is the healthy thing, yes, but if you're not having sex, masturbation is a healthy alternative.

Yourbrainonporn is far from being a relying source, it's nothing but bro-science site promoted by a married couple with no medical background.

>>40038985
Christ, you are one dense motherfucker. There were times when I would be busy with certain things, so naturally would have no time for fapping. I used to have a lot of highs and lows in my life (especially when it came to gym: one day I would be repping 140 kg as if it's nothing, while the other I would be getting exhausted after a couple of sets with 120), so one day I just outright asked myself: what's wrong? One day was no different from the other, yet I kept experiencing those swings, until it fucking hit me: all the "lows" in my life coincided with me starting to jerk off almost every day.
I began making conscious effort to avoid fapping afterwards, and even though I'm far from being done (I sometimes still give in), I've noticed huge improvements to overall life quality.

>>40039020
I agree with you, but you're going against NoFap aswell.
Let's keep masturbation within a normal and healthy range.

Can someone help shed some light on why haven't I been at all horny after losing my virginity? It's literally been 2 weeks and I haven't felt the urge to touch my cock once. Also I think about killing myself more than usual.

>>40039066

The problem is that everyone vastly overestimates how many times is "healthy.

Like this guy >>40039054 , who under a guise of being moderate, probably thinks that fapping every day is not an addiction "because at least it's not 2-3 times a day".

Which is as retarded as saying "I may smoke a crack rock every other day, but I'm not an addict, a REAL addict smokes every day!"

>>40039081
Addiction is relative to the addict.

>>40039062

Should you completely abstain for as long as possible? Or fap evrry 7 days to reset the cycle?

Lost my virginity a year ago but it got soft before climax. Have had trouble ever since. Decided to do nofap. After 90 some days of no fap i hooked up with a woman and got a hard on by just kissing and ended up coming after 2 minutes then continued fucking for another 20 minutes.

Currently on day 15 of NoFap, and honestly I don't feel much different.

>>40039073
Probably because your arsehole is still sore

>>40039100
I'd say do it for as long as you can. If you are a chronic masturbator (i.e. fapping every other day or more), chances are, you won't last more than a week.
If you are still young, really consider your life goals now and start working towards them: fapping less makes you want to seek your goals, while seeking your goals makes you forget about instant gratification.

>>40039159
ha ha you got me good

>>40039062
Yes, I'm a dense motherfucker (I'm the anon from the previous post but not the two other ones), do you know why? Because I also fell for NoFap, I also saw the benefits after two weeks of nofapping, my first month of NoFap felt amazing, I felt so full of energy, so clean, so attractive, so confident.
Even just fapping once a week was good, except for feeling bad and weak after the fap.

It all was great, it was as if I had discovered the Holy Grial. Until... my fourth long strike. It only took me 21 days, to start feeling the effects: anxiety, depression, lack of sex drive, no erections at all, baby dick. That's when I panicked and heard about the (in)famous flatline, that's when I decided to talk with a friend who is an urologist, and he told me that what I was doing wasn't healthy, that the penis tissue weakens with lack of use, which can lead to ED, and the penis starts becoming atrophied, also about the danger of not ejaculating.

I also measured my penis after I started masturbating again, it had gone from 15.5 - 16 cm to 14.5 - 15 cm. It's now back to 15.5 cm, but those were some terrifying days.

Why did it the first months worked for me? I can think of placebo effect and of briefly dating a girl with whom I was having regular sex at least twice a week.

>>40039177
;^)

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>>40039081
Lol, that's me I'm the same guy. I don't fap twice a day, I'm more like 4 or 5 per week. But I don't find it that much for a horny teenager with a high sex drive who's not having sex.

>>40039184
Hm, did that doctor of yours happen to have last name ending with -berg?
Are you completely sure nothing else happened in your life that might have caused depression and anxiety?
Regardless, I'm looking forward to find out myself what happens.

It works for some people and it doesn't for others

Some people get way too fucking wound up without regular stimulation and release, but for some people it'll give them more drive and energy.

You should know how this works by now, guys, different strokes for different folks. Some guys need a few strokes, some guys need a lot of strokes, some guys don't need strokes at all.

It's common sense.

I tried no fap and I ended up just getting pissed off about everything and stressing out over stupid shit. I'm already high strung to begin with and I have plenty of motivation and energy to spare either way, so I don't need that shit. For people like me there's no noticeable benefit and the downsides are very apparent, however there will be people for whom there are very apparent benefits and the downsides aren't noticeable.

You can pretty much take that logic and apply it to anything that will mess with your body's hormone balance and production. There will be some people who have a better time with it than others.

>>40039225
That's my advice, don't believe what a stranger tells you on the internet. Look it out for yourself. Ask a doctor, that's important, if you want only those whose surnames end in -sson, -sen, -poulos, -ez, -ov, -enko, -ini, or whatever.

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>>40038728

>>40039001
>using easy to understand terms for the sake of comprehension
>puts quotation marks around them so it's obvious they're not the real terms
Yeah, go back to your lab, numbnuts, people with important jobs actually have to explain things in comprehensible ways to people who don't have time to learn the vernacular of every single field that affects their decisions.

>>40038986
That website isn't a "team of scientists" you mong.
It's two people who "review" each other's works and don't have any science background, but are self-proclaimed experts. They're the same self loathing Christians, like Dr. Kellogg and the puritans before him, who believe anything sexual that isn't reproduction is abhorrent.

>>40038821
>dopamine addled addict
Man that's wild, because I have raging erections with my girlfriend, I have a house, a car and a successful career, my finances are in good order and I have a nice physique.
Imagine if I wasn't "a dopamine addled addict", I'd probably be on my way to the Whitehouse right about now!
Get real you stupid fucks, NoFappers are losers because they're born losers, not because they jerk off too much.

Serious Question:

Does NoFap work if I have sex everyday? Or should I tell my gf to chill out for a bit?

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>>40039462
>NoFappers are losers because they're born losers, not because they jerk off too much.
So much this.

guys, who cares if it's a placebo if it works?

>>40039553
sex and fapping are completely different in terms of the hormones released. Sex raises test, not lowers it like fapping.

>>40039462
>healthy relationship
>fap addiction
Holy fuck, you are retarded.

>>40039630
Placebo is cool, I guess? For the short time it works and for the limitations it has. Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

Why don't you chose to believe that brushing your teeth increases your test levels?

>>40039641
I'm sorry, but that's just not true, we're gonna need a source for that statement.

>>40039754
>Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

Jesus those are some crazy hoops you're jumping through there to justify your own weakness. Not fapping is now some terminal disease?

>Do nofap and noporn
>Have better sex with girlfriend
>No more brain fog
>More motivated at work
>Notice girls mirin in general
>More outgoing and talking/socializing is easier for me

Doesn't matter if it's placebo I'm loving it

>>40038565
It affects your chakra. Why do you think monks nofap?

>>40039641
Fucking idiot. There's nothing that can raise your test levels by a clinically significant level. NoFap is just a fucking placebo and the only reason you guys feel improvement is because you were all fucking addicts with low self-esteem and you desperately need something to believe in.

After all the deliberations and previous nofap experiences, I'm gonna go cold turkey today.

I need time to learn how to play the guitar or at least to play video games goddammit.

>>40039815
Do your own research my brotha, you don't have to believe me.

>>40039815
Not fapping can lead to physical ED.
Doctors recommend masturbation "about every day".

>>40039754
>Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

lmao

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>>40040115
>Doctors recommend masturbation "about every day".
Holy fuck, I'm really gonna need a source for that.

>>40038565
>I thought NOFAP was bullshit
It is.
>once i stop i notice i have so much more energy and i'm way more aggressive in the gym.
>unnecessarily sexually frustrate yourself
>get aggressive
>This is surprising
>>40038600
>but not jacking off raises it.
No it doesn't
>>40038667
No it doesn't you dumb nigger
>>40038696
>Nofap is legit.
It's a pseudoscientific meme that demonizes something perfectly healthy and natural
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

>>40040115
(((doctors)))

>>40040866
shoo shoo gains goblin

>>40040836
I don't know about what docs recommend but fapping everyday's fine for you
>>40040866

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>>40040883
>gains goblin
>Not reading

>>40040866
>>40040912
What the fuck?

>>40040918
>What the fuck?
Is actual science that isn't memes too confusing for you

>>40040989
It is but that's not the point, you are accusing others of broscience yet you are posting broscience with a touch of science so yeah wtf?

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NoFap is total bullshit, but NoPorn is legit. Break the chains of the xxx-rated jew.

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>>40040866
Thank you, senpai

>>40040866
>being this addicted to porn

>>40038565
>stroking your tiny weewee for 10mins drains your energy so much that it effects your lifting
How much of a low-energy beta fag are you?

>>40041056
What about amateur porn ?

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>>40038565
>tfw you want to nofap but your gf is a semen demon

>>40038565
Go for a month, then you can talk.

>>40040874
There are no Jewish doctors where I live. The ethnic composition of Newfoundland is almost entirely English, Irish and French.

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>start falling for girl
>dont feel like fapping or porn anymore
>go through manic fits of euphoria and depression
>cant focus on career or lifting
>sleep 3 hrs a night
>cant even enjoy the benefits of nofap
>she might not even like me back

someone come and end me

>>40041271
It's called noFAP not noSEX you fucking retard.

>>40041280
Did for a month, ruined my libido. A year after and it still has not recoverd. Fuck you nofap faggots for killing my benis and relationship.

>>40038721
wet dreams are ok tho, it's essentially your body saying "the tanks full but we're still making semen so we gotta make room"

>>40040866
If you get this triggered by people making a positive change to their life, maybe it's time you stopped watching porn.

The reality is, nofap has something going for it that spending less time JO'ing is a good thing if substitute in something positive or productive instead. Less time spent watching porn is also likely just overall good for psyche.

That said, purposely trying your hardest not to jerk off for weeks on end is not going to do shit but stress you out more unless you're getting box on a semi regular basis. Like others have said, don't just go and jerk off every time you feel the urge to, but once a week or two is good stuff. Release a little stress, live your life, shoot your shot.

>It's an Anon thinks he can watch porn without masturbating episode

>>40041332
You're obviously trolling.

1 month in my dick and balls grew slightly in size, was super sensitive to touch, my libido was heightened, muscle tone increased, and I had more stamina.

When I finally came it was like a hose, was almost bright white, and strangely enough, the smell was really strong.

It works. Jizzing decreases the hormones in your body, makes you less manly.

The cool thing is that it awards your self-control with confidence. The longer you go the stronger you get.

>>40041028
>you are accusing others of broscience yet you are posting broscience with a touch of science so yeah wtf?
Except everything I posted is actual science

>>40041238
>being this addicted to porn
I've repeatedly advocated for quitting porn if you really thin you have a problem. Demonizing fapping's just retarded, however.
>>40041411
Maybe it's time you stopped believing pseudoscientific memes and demonizing something normal

>>40041296
are you me

>>40041315
What's the difference?

nofap works. try it and see for urself, and dont listen to the jewcucks

>>40041824
I agree with this, see for yourself if it has benefits or not.

>>40041296
shit dude I had that when I was 15 lmao
what worked for me was I asked her out
she agreed then we went out then it was a complete disaster
then i cried for like 2 months straight and got my shit together and grew as a person

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>>40041258
It all belongs in the oven.

>>40040866
>Jack off while seeing other people fuck
>Jack off to pixels
>Perfectly healthy and natural

>>40042123
Fellow bogdabot.

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I'm fucking doing it now. Thanks bro!

>>40042123
Supreme beings

>>40041784
none for you you aint getting any.
difference is sex creates bonds

>>40042181
>Jack off while seeing other people fuck
>Jack off to pixels
>>40041647
I never said don't quit porn
Also it's sex, your body brain sees it and tells you to get off/spread your genes and getting horny because of that is a perferctly normal and natural reaction.

To avoid all the baitporn on 4chan, put this in your custom CSS:

.thumb:hover{
opacity:1;
}
.thumb {
opacity:0.1;
}

Makes it easier to browse without temptation.

>>40040866
You are FUCKING stupid. I started "no fap" the term for not jerking off when I was 17 before I even read it. I did it because a friend and I agreed it makes you feel better because in general fucking your hand isn't natural. You piece of shit, keep arguing your life is prob such shit bro.

So how long until the benefits start to hit? I only made it 7 days first try and after day 5 was getting horny constantly and feeling pretty swell i think

>>40044263
depends on how big your slump is (jerking it 3-4x/day for months on end will leave you a husk)

for normies it kicks in around 3 days, then 7, 10, ~45, ~90 all feel a little different

>>40044327
Sweet, thanks. I think I'm fairly normie. Fapped once or twice a day and only to pretty vanilla solo stuff like stripteases. Been doing it for like 10 years tho

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>>40040866
He got dubs how do we even argue against him.

>>40038721
>havent fapped in 53 days
>still no wet dream

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>tfw can only achieve orgasm when I bark like a dog or howl like a wolf

fuck I need to purge this fetish so badly

>stopped fapping
>still take glimpses at porn

This is a fucking addiction. Drastic steps are required, i need to stay away from the internet as much as I possibly can.

>>40044907
iktf feel man. after a few days I feel the extreme urge to check out /gif/, /e/ or certain porn forums just to see what's new, even though I know I'm not allowed to fap to it. It's hard man

Asking young males how porn affect their lives and their energy levels these days is like asking a fish how it feels to be under water. The sample size of people who don't watch porn is so fucking small that it's not even possible to do studies on

>>40044775
>tfw can only achieve orgasm by sniffing big musky sheafs on manly woofs :3c

>>40038750
A+ POST NIGGA

>>40045051
Fuck off Snacky

>>40038750
This guy gets it

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>lose phone for a few days
>no desire to fap to porn, just fap using my imagination over Italian girls
>feels 10x better

>find phone again
>immediately have the urge to watch sissy feminization porn and browse 4chan

wtf

>>40038565
is me masturbating everyday lowering my testosterone enough to affect muscle and facial hair growth

>>40045185
Gens, is that you?

Best part of these threads is the porn addicts who come in absolutely fucking furious that some other guys are choosing to abstain from the habit, for whatever reason, and that some are getting results

The white hot rage ar other guys not jerking off.....incomprehensible

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/2cg8in/27_year_cured_after_two_year_flatline_severe_ed/

Read the whole thread.

>>40044769
Look at some porn and get your juices flowing right before bed. Porns bad dont get me wrong, but if youre not having segs reguly :DD you may loose your drive my dude

>>40045809
What point are you making anon? I feel like it most only be the most extreme cases that take 2 years to rewire

>>40045442
fuck u whoever u are, musky sheafs are the king

>>40045857
My point is that some people are unaware of what is called "flatline", which is a stage all nofappers sooner or later arrive.

People believe NoFap is about getting mired by girls, higher levels of test, increase in confidence, loss of social anxiety, etc. All meme/placebo benefits.

NoFap is a therapy for people addicted to porn and masturbation. It is a hell of a trip. It is not a magic trend to obtain magic powers.

>>40045968
You make a good point but so many people report those benefits. Even if they are placebo, I think they still hold weight. Especially the last two

>>40045993
Yes, but you can benefit from those same benefits with Noporn and moderate fapping (or none at all if having sex), 1 time per week, without the risk of entering in a flatline.

>>40046032
That's actually an excellent point. I'm actually of two minds, and considering either complete cutting of PMO or the weekly imagination wank. Still got 5 days to go til day 7 anyway so I'm gonna have a think about it

>>40044907
>Need to step away from the internet
>Job literally is internet marketing

So why would many cultures around the world throughout all of history believe that a man's energy and vitality are lost through ejaculation if it was not true?

>>40046108
Yeah... checkmate atheists!

>>40045417
it does for me

>>40046108
Because they didn't understand biology and equated psychological effects to physiological ones.

I'm a strong supporter of no porn and moderate masturbation but you don't lose energy and vitality through it, you just feel that way.

>>40044907
Most people who think they're addicted to porn don't actually consume more porn or masturbate than the average person. They just feel more guilt and self-loathing when the look at porn and masturbate.

>>40045889
I'm sure my new is showing, but wtf is a sheaf? Like a sheaf of wheat?

>>40038750
>>40038795
>>40038821
Been on nofap since New years and don't plan on stopping for at least the rest of the month. When I do start fapping again, it'll only be 2 times a week. Is that fine for my dopamine levels?

>>40046830
a furry meme word for the the protective sheath that covers a dog's flaccid penis

>>40046843
Thanks for clearing that up anon, hopefully I will never have to use that word ever

>>40038600
Porn gives you an instant endorphin hit which is one reason why its bad.
Like heroin basically but not THAT bad.
Unless your a sex god which your not, I don't believe you that porn isn't harmful in some way.

>>40046293
you said it yourself, maybe not lose energy calories wise but you mind feels foggy and therefore your body feels tired because of the liberation of serotonine

>>40039748
He didn't say he was addicted dickhead.
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night, can't get back to sleep again.
Rub one out with my gf sleeping beside me and go back to sleep.
Sad relationship if you can't even touch yourself.

>>40039836
This.

Also if it was a placebo why does everyone experience the same benefits on no fap?

>be less than 50 yo
>not fucking gf/random girls 2-5 times PER DAY
>instead posting about someone called Nofap on online chinese pottery auction image board

seriously why watch porn when you can do the exact same things in real life with minimal effort? (we are all swole here right?)

>>40047100
Presumably because they're imagining the effects that every other nofappers have reported

that being said, I believe a lot of it is real and that it's a good thing

>>40047100
That is how placebo is supposed to work. First you tell the patient what the fake pills will do then eventually through the power of their sheer retiredness they somehow make it actually happen.
>tfw power of retard

Placebo or not, OP is seeing better results for not fapping. Why does everyone on here think they are a fucking bro-scientist? If I blow a load before the gym, I can lift more and up the intensity, because of the fact that I'm relaxed. Different strokes for different folks, or no strokes for different folks.

If anything, porn is the problem.

>>40047223
Now this anecdote on the other hand has some science backing. Some studies have been made showing performance increase when working out < 1 hour after sex

>>40047249
I think it's pretty anecdotal since lots of people such as myself are weaker after fapping so I think it's really dependent on the fappertype

>>40038696
Your retarded ass is witnessing what is known as placebo and you do not know what to make of it, but I do. You are some role playing faggot pretending that there is this cure all for your problems, probably because you played too many rpg's. People like you have the wrong idea about habits. You don't get better at talking to girls by not jerking off, you get better at talking to girls by talking to girls.

The same autists that tell you the best way to get better at running is running or benching is benching will be the same mother fuckers to tell you that you get better at life by taking cold showers, or nofa.

No nigger, you get better at certain aspects of life by doing those things more and better. Apply what you learn in the gym to real life mother fucker. I think you autists already know this but are to scared to take that first step to actuall self improvement so you perpetuate this phase of looking for this "cure all" ritual that will fix you.

I can't believe there are retards that will argue with this shit.

>>40047284
so much kek. go back to /gif/ you angry fapper

>>40047249
>>40047274

I think this is where porn vs. no porn also comes into play. When I personally do not watch porn, it takes me much longer which means I am using more energy. However when watching porn the time is cut in half, if not more.

How does porn affect male performance at the gym? Probably causing us to subconsciously objectify women to an extent and stare at their asses while they do squats.. interfering with our workout and pump.

Other than that, if you have an addiction to porn and can't learn to put it aside until you have nothing going on, you are mentally weak.

>>40047307
There is also some scientific evidence for watching really hardcore porn WHILE working out giving a boost

>>40038750
This. Why can't people wrap their head around the fact that you are blasting your brain with feel good chemicals just as drugs do

>>40047299
I knew some retard would dismiss my argument like this.

>>40047330
Well then shit, I can see this being true.

>>40047307
>>40047330
That said, there is NO evidence for nofap; and certainly not for extended periods of nofap.

For an otherwise healthy male < 50 yo, your body will take care of this for you though, no matter how stupid you are and how much you believe in this nofap shit, you WILL ejaculate in your sleep (which doesn't necessarily leave enough fluids for you to even notice you did.. but trust me you WILL).

For those of us that actually have sex occasionally….

Wouldn't this make me a two pump chump?

>>40047369
Also this. Fuck waking up in the middle of the night horny as hell. I went 5 days without fapping once and almost woke up and fucked my pillow.

Sex drive probably varies from person to person, but if I don't get my dose of it, I'll actually lost focus in the gym and become counterproductive.

How can I have that mind to muscle connection when I'm temporarily obsessed with fucking the girl on the squat rack?

>>40038750

> Accomplishing things and being a slave to desirable DNA is the right way to live

I don't think so Tim.

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Don't be this guy

>>40046821
This is me. I'm positive it has to do with conservative/religious upbringing.

I'm also a prude.

Ok, so I've come to the conclusion I'm addicted to porn and masturbation. I've tried to give it up. Can't do it. I can go a few days but then always end up watching porn. I gave up smoking in one day. Just decided to stop. Stopped. Smoking weed? Never do it more than once a year or two. Drinking same thing. I might get drunk once every few years. I'm going to make a real effort to cut out porn.

>>40047959
Good luck, anon! We're all with you

>tfw 24 year old virgin
>didn't start masturbating until I was 23
>don't enjoy any porn
>professional, amateur, none of it
>literally soft and bored while watching it
>only porn I watch is girls masturbating
>only masturbate twice a week on weekends (once saturday, once sunday night before bed) just to make sure I don't get wet dreams

>>40048262
Why are you on /fit/ with testosterone levels that low? kek.

>>40047977
Thanks brother. The goal is one week. I can do one week. Going to do one week.

>>40046821
I don't come from a religious family and am not religious. It's not that I feel guilty. It's that I tried to stop and I can't. With basically little to no provocation I'll get it in my head that I have stop what I'm doing and bust a nut. I'm going to go one week without masturbating. Fuck me if I can't control myself enough to not jerk it for one fucking week. That's the behavior of an addict.

>>40048588
Yeah exactly, it's not always about religion.

Easiest way to tell how addicted you are to something is by testing how long you can go without it before cracking, but you really have to commit otherwise when you fail you'll think "eh, I wasn't really trying" or whatever

>>40046821
nigger i have more than 130 gigs of hentai on my drive and THOUSANDS of doujins saved on my sadpanda
thats not normal, though i am somewhat proud of my autism to be able to know where something came from by just seeing a cropped smug anime face.jpg

>>40042976
>You are FUCKING stupid.
And so is your post

>>40046835
if you fap don't watch porn, use your imagination instead like the first time, think about a hot girl at school, work, etc.

>>40049838
Is porn still as harmful if I only use it like every 2nd week or something?

>>40047172
before I even knew what no fap was (or even existed) I could tell the difference in how I felt between when I had and hadnt jacked off.

>>40049855
It depends on how addicted to porn you are, in my case porn is a big NO because I certainly programed my brain in a way that my dick only got hard with BBC vs White Women stuff, then ladyboys and so on.

>no fap
>no porn
Do you know why so much old art is pornographic? Because it was used as wanking material. We've been wanking it for literally thousands of years with and without external stimuli.

Any perceived benefit/detriment is entirely made up by you and not actually real. You can fap every day to porn and feel great and you can fap every day to porn and feel terrible, there is no relation.

>>40049905
/fucking thread

nofap is a meme

>>40047223
>OP is seeing better results for not fapping
>trusting a /pol/tard
Hes shitposting to spread a meme, he didnt actually stop fapping.

>>40049905
Fucking actually.
They were fucking.

>>40049896
What about if I remember porn I accidentally see on /fit/ or other boards that ppl spam, or of attractive waifus that ppl also like to spam? I guess as long as I'm not actively focusing on it while fapping and only remember it after accidentally glancing at it or whatever it's fine, right?

>>40049971
They fucked no more than we do today

We actually fuck more today than they do then since we dont 1. Have our dicks drop off or 2. Spawn a thousand children when we fuck someone due to the miracle of putting a hat on your cock.

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>>40040836
>mfw in the last arc of Steel Ball Run

How do I into Valentine Mode, /fit/?

The only time excessive masturbation is a bad thing is if it is affecting your life in a negative way. Like if you watch porn while masturbating and you then only get attracted to people IRL who look like specific porn stars. Or if you put off other duties to masturbate. Just like any other addiction.

While I would not recommend masturbating every day, or multiple times a day, it is not because I feel it has a "negative" effect

>>40049983
As long as you use your mind to fap is ok, except for that crazy cuckold shit, futanari or two girls in a cup.

>tfw jerked it twice today after a week of nofap
I feel like shit.

>>40050388
whenever i relapse on nofap its always spirals into a fucking wankathon.

>>40038728

Is this why i always gotta sex when hungover and sick?

>>40049905
Yeah spending 3 hours watching and edging to fetish porn is completely healthy goys. Don't listen to people telling you it's more healthy to go talk to girls. Stay inside and fap to shemale bdsm videos.

>>40038565
If I fap to midgets will I get slightly bigger gains?

>>40047284
Great post. Fapping is a scapegoat for losers and their shitty lives, except for legit addicts.

>>40038750
This. Screw test, beating my Christmas tree 3 times a day is like fucking heroin far as my brain knows it. And that dopamine train has made doing shit else harder.

Fapping to porn is like looking up pictures of food when you're hungry.

>>40050577

Yep, and also why you don't give a fuck walking down the street in flip flops with socks

Nofap helped my facial hair come in a long vitamin D and the test shock program

>>40052533
Bad example, I don't get full off of looking up pictures of food. A better example would be porn is like the bikes at the gym, why not just do the real thing.

>>40053522
no THAT'S a bad example retard.
porn is like looking at something u can't get, while u see another man get it. its cuck as fuck

>>40053522
But both of them are beneficial ways of exercising and like anon said one is the real thing other is being a cuck.

>>40046108
You're telling me that eating bull nuts doesn't make me more of a man? What the fuck. What about all the cultures around the world, throughout all of history that believed that?

>>40046821

>edging for multiple hours to 50 different clips
>when finally cumming theres almost no sperm coming left out because i had multiple micro orgasms inbetween

yeah i don't think thats normal

>>40038750

qft

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>>40040866
This guy dumps his edgy "muh Chaos and Pain XD" links like clockwork in
EVERY.
SINGLE.
THREAD.

Seriously, anyone on the fence about this subject is probably going to do nofap just to spite people like you.

>>40042252
Kek, is that the /pol/ guy?

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>>40038565
2 months in. No changes noticed other than consistent ball ache.

>>40038875
>besthealthmag
Yet another reason I won't trust anything I see online about fapping. All these people memeing about dopamine probably don't know a damn thing about neurochemistry.

>>40038986
>http://yourbrainonporn.com/
>science
Pick one.

>>40045857
>rewire
Yourbrainonporn shill detected.

>>40038593
Why would it matter what you jerk off to?

>>40038728
no fap reddit cultists BTFO

>>40057378
umm no...I just visit the reddit community so am prone to using their terminology, tard

>>40044529

With these digits

>>40047412

By fucking the girl on the squat rack

>>40038696
B R O S C I E N C E

>>40055377
I think you'll find his name is Sarcuck of Mossad

>COLD SHOWERS
>HURR DURRRRR PLACEBOOOO
>WHAT IS THE COLD SHOCK RESPONSE
>WHAT IS COLD SHOCK THERAPY FOR DEPRESSION

>Fap till test tanks are empty
> Body compensates lack of test by producing more test

why is so hard to grasp this

>>40041296
That happened to me when I was 17. Stop with the literal self-cuckoldry. There's always darkness before the dawn. In my depression I found Return of Kings which introduced me to the rest of the manosphere, which made me realize that women were worthless anyway. Then I started getting /fit/, accomplishing things, and I completely turned my life around. Went from a 3.1 GPA (cumulative, junior at that time), to having a 4.4 GPA senior year (not cumulative), and going to CC where I continued to get straight As. I'm really grateful for overhearing my oneitis at the time telling her close friend about how she lost her virginity to some Chad football player the night before, because that finally broke me.

>>40059804
However, do note that Return of Kings is pretty shitty now and that this was 2-3 years ago. The idea is that you will overcome this and become stronger because of it.

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>>40040866
Wow, NOFAP really is bullshit.

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When people say noporn does that just mena videos? because noporn is impossible since everyone posts porn pictures on this board every so often and other boards.

I don't know why people are brigading to shun and 'disprove' nofap. The whole nofap thing is just anecdotal and that's fine.

The only way to know for yourself is to try it and that takes 30 days of your life max to notice differences. There's no point shitting on it

Has anyone here ever tried the cum stack vitamin meme image that's been on this board for the past fucking decade?

It's posted every time but no one reports results and if it's safe

>>40058571
*sargon of blackdad

>>40038565
I've done nofap a few times for about ten days and what not, and I didnt see much change.
However I started doing noporn and its like nofap came with it, not watching at porn made me realize I only jacked off because I started watching it.
So now I only fap like twice a week TOPS, and I waste less time watching at porn

>>40060390

I installed a program on my computer to make it grey-scale, less serotonin and dopamine being released to the brain and less likely to want to watch porn. I don't care much about nofap as long as i'm not doing it chronically but noporn is a good idea.

If I went no fap for over 48 hours I'd be popping random boners all over the place. People at the gym would probably think I'm a homo.

Anyone on no fap is a low test faggot

>>40038565
>working on getting my life together.
>Trying NOFAP and abstaining from alcohol for the first time in forever.
>Its been 4 days
>able to focus more at work
>married milf at work has been flirty with me lately
>more attention than I usually get because I'm so fucking shy

went out and lifted for the first time in 6 months yesterday and it felt amazing, the only problem is that I've felt devastatingly dehydrated for the entire run, i'm assuming it has to do with the lack of alcohol, I drank 5 tall glasses of water last couple nights and it just kept me up all night running to the bathroom. Anybody know what I can do to fix it? Plus I'm not really as horny as I thought I would be, only a couple random boners so far. Is that normal?

>>40060145
I've been on that stack while on nofap since 12/28. I won't be able to report results until at least the 31st, if not later. I have to say though, I feel I have more strength, if only mental, at the gym since nofap. I stopped lifting for 2 weeks straight to focus strictly on cardio. Jumped back to my previous lifting routine today and found I was able to push myself to hit the same number I pulled before I stopped lifting 2 weeks ago.

I wouldn't have been able to do that back when I was fapping like a madman.

>>40061169
yes because not masturbating means more people are giving you attention

holy delusion

>>40061424
honestly just did nofap for the random boners which i barely get, I think the break from drinking has really made me feel better and more confident, and the attention I was referring to was just from that one milf chick who was a notorious flirt but just recently started sending it my way. after looking at this thread might just go for the noporn in favor of still being able to jack off

>do nofap
>1.5 weeks in
>realize its fucking stupid
>jack off to big tiddies

I'm a mid 20s virgin and I only masturbate once a week. I don't really like porn at all.

Nothing I've watched has worked for me. Professional porn sucks (I couldn't name more than maybe 3 porn stars). Amateur porn does nothing.

The only thing that i like is girls masturbating, but I really really like squirting. Even if the girl is disgusting, I can masturbate to a video of a girl masturbating and squirting. There's this amateur video I have of this fat girl. Her pussy is beat to hell with flapping lips and a gaping hole. Her asshole is beat to hell too. She's on her back and the camera is between her legs so her holes and face are visible. When she orgasms I see her cellulite-filled ass lift up and her beat asshole tightening while she squirts and I cum hard as fuck to it.

I also love watching videos of girls peeing (probably related to the squirt thing)

I'm such a degenerate and so useless that I can't even enjoy porn like everyone else does. Unbelievable. Someone like me should be watching porn and masturbating all the time.

What the fuck is the point when you tell someone on here fapping is fine just use your imagination instead of porn when most mofos are just gonna imagine their favorite porn kinks!?!?

ITS ALL THE SAME!

I think the actual point to all this constant BS is arriving at a point where you have control over your penis. Fap or no fap. Porn or no porn.

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>tfw not gullible enough for placebo to work

>>40061771
I think there's some sort of major difference between images produced in your own mind, properly suppressed, vs unfiltered images you force upon yourself from an outside source. I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I think with imagination your brain limits the amount of dopamine administered to you, or something.

Besides, humans have always masturbated, but porn itself is a relatively new invention the way it is now.

>>40061771
>most mofos are just gonna imagine their favorite porn kinks!?!?

I just end up imagining normal sex with a woman i find attractive.

>>40061424
Wow you love being a cuck huh lmao

>>40061771
This thq, where is your god now fap shills.

>>40061766
>I'm a mid 20s virgin and I only masturbate once a week. I don't really like porn at all.
>Nothing I've watched has worked for me. Professional porn sucks (I couldn't name more than maybe 3 porn stars). Amateur porn does nothin
I feel just like you anon.

im only doing nofap since i heard it can clear your acne

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>>40038565
164 days.

Ama.

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>>40041584
>>40040912
Source? Anyone can say shit like that

>>40039462

Jesus man, those things are not that hard to obtain, you are projecting like fuck.

I have a similar lifestyle, but i used to fap a lot and smoke, since going cold turkey on both i do feel i have a lot more day to day motivation, its not some big miracle, just a nice lifestyle change.

>>40040866
The only reason you post these in EVERY nofap thread is to reassure yourself that your addiction to porn is normal and healthy. I bet you've never even gone 90 days without fapping since you started, you goddamn snotty nosed, sissy, blogposting, quarter-squatting, smith-machine using, cum-stained troglodyte.

Neuroscience of Internet Pornography Addiction: A Review and Update: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/

Neural Correlates of Sexual Cue Reactivity in Individuals with and without Compulsive Sexual Behaviours: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0102419#pone-0102419-g001

Brain Structure and Functional Connectivity Associated With Pornography Consumption
(Decreased grey matter with increase in porn usage) :http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

The Dual Control Model - The Role Of Sexual Inhibition & Excitation In Sexual Arousal And Behavior (2007) http://www.indiana.edu/~sexlab/files/pubs/JanssenBancroft.pdf

Adolescents and web porn: a new era of sexuality: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26251980

Brain Structure and Functional Connectivity Associated With Pornography Consumption http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

Pornography's Impact on Sexual Satisfaction
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-1816.1988.tb00027.x/abstract

Neurobiological Basis of Hypersexuality (Taken together, the evidence seems to imply that alterations in the frontal lobe, amygdala, hippocampus, hypothalamus, septum, and brain regions that process reward play a prominent role in the emergence of hypersexuality):
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S007477421630068X

Compulsivity Across the Pathological Misuse of Drug and Non-Drug Rewards:
http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnbeh.2016.00154/full

(1/2)

>>40063454
why

>>40063454
she "lost" the key to your cage?

>>40040866

CONT. (2/2) >>40064110

Watching pornographic pictures on the Internet: role of sexual arousal ratings and psychological-psychiatric symptoms for using Internet sex sites excessively:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21117979
Mood changes after watching pornography on the Internet are linked to tendencies towards Internet-pornography-viewing disorder:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352853216300499
Pornographic picture processing interferes with working memory performance:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23167900

Trading Later Rewards for Current Pleasure: Pornography Consumption and Delay Discounting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26305628
Adolescents’ Exposure to Sexually Explicit Internet Material and Sexual Satisfaction: A Longitudinal Study: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-2958.2009.01343.x/abstract
Pharmacological and physiological aspects of sexual exhaustion in male rats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589#
Masturbationand Pornography Use Among Coupled Heterosexual Men With Decreased Sexual Desire: How Many Roles ofMasturbation?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25189834
Sexual Addiction & Compulsivity: The Journal of Treatment & Prevention:
http://pornharmsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/Research_Hilton_Sex-Addiction-as-a-Disease_2015.pdf
Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports:
http://www.mdpi.com/2076-328X/6/3/17/htm
Individual Differences in Nucleus Accumbens Activity to Food and Sexual Images Predict Weight Gain and Sexual Behavior: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3377379/

>>40038733
Internet superstition

>>40064114
because I can
nah just kidding, I decided I wouldnt do it anymore until I can get it from an actual girl
sort of like a challenge, I always knew I had great discipline and self control but I kind of slipped in the last years, so I tried this.
it was the only way for me to make it in that regard imo, otherwise I would never even have tried to do anything to get out and find some tang
now I'm trimming away from my life the rest of the "fat", aka other non successful habits, since I know I can do it and have done it with this one

>>40064123
I wish

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>>40038733
faithscience

>>40064110
>>40064124
Where did you grab this list from?

>>40064541
I just compiled them myself from the nofap subreddit and from http://yourbrainonporn.com/sex-addiction

I'm gonna counter-shill the porn shill with those links every time he posts in a nofap thread

>>40049248
woah great argument

>>40064124
Youre literary the epidome of cherrypicking.
Most of those studies would give similare results to any action that gives a reward. From eating to runners high.
Masturbaition and porn only affect a selective few, in a negative way. Those who get addicted. There will always be a minority who gets addicted to anything, gambling, gaming, drugs, sex, porn, eating, anything with a reward.
But that does not mean it affects the majority the same way. Learn the difference between use and abuse.

>>40064624
I don't get runners high anymore. sad

>>40064110
>>40064124
Saved
>>40064586
Will be doing the same, thanks for posting the links, tired of that fuck always coming here and ruining threads.

>>40047100
confirmation bias

>>40064916
Just don't post it before he posts it otherwise you are just doing the same shit he does.

>>40064586
Wouldn't those studies support noporn? I haven't read them yet, but it seems none of them is about nofap.

>>40064598
>woah great argument
Like the one you posted to my argument which contains actual science on masturbation and isn't just memes and butthurt like yours
>>40064110
>The only reason you post these in EVERY nofap thread is to reassure yourself that your addiction to porn is normal and healthy.
No I post these in EVERY no fap thread (which there always are lot of spamming this pseudoscientific meme over this board) is because it's actual facts about masturbating and what it does and not your constant meme shitposting which needs to fuck off this /fit/. And quit acting like any of what you posted debunked what I did and proves fapping's bad for you. I've also repeatedly advocated for quitting [porn if you really think you have az problem but laiming masturbation's the debbil is just fucking stupid.
>>40064586
And none of what you posted proves fapping's bad for you
>>40064916
>Saved
If you're going to save that just because he wrote a long essay your're wasting your time. No matter how many memes, cherrypicked analysis of studies he posts or how many rants he goes on; fapping will never be the devil he and you so desperately wish it was.
>Will be doing the same
Then you will be wasting your time and wrong just like he is.
>tired of that fuck always coming here and ruining threads.
>ruining
>implying threads full of pseudoscientific shitposting aren't shitty to begin with
The only reason you're assblasted that I'm "ruining" your threads is because facts hurt your feelings and you just want to constantly shitpost threads that are your own pseudoscientific special snowflake hug box on /fit/. Go somewhere else where they know fuck all about science and biology if you want a safe space

>>40065020
>Just don't post it before he posts it otherwise you are just doing the same shit he does.
>posting about pseudoscience and memes is the same thing as posting things that fapping actually does and science on the topic

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OK I have a question here

Since December 31 I wanted to start 2017 curing my death grip and being able to keep my erections firmer without needing porn or anything else than the chick laying down nude in my bed

So far I have been able to accomplish that with the help of my female fwb, but she is not always available.

What do I do when I am about to explode in hornyness and I don't want to orgasm with my own hands? Should I use a fleshlight or any other toy? Does that still count as fapping?

Please send help...

>>40065290
>OK I have a question here
>Since December 31 I wanted to start 2017 curing my death grip and being able to keep my erections firmer without needing porn or anything else than the chick laying down nude in my bed

> so I started doing nofap, with the occasional edging

Missed that part.. Fixed

>>40065290
Fleshlight + imagination

>>40065290
>>40065320
If you are alone in the room and it feels good on your dick it is masturbation(fucking the sofa, humping pillows, fucking a pringles can, fleshlight etc.).On the topic of sexual frustration, I find it much more satisfying to use that energy to get shit done instead of giving in to temptation tbf.Easier said than done I know but it wouldn't be a challenge otherwise now would it.

Reminder that Jews own and run most porn to push goyim degeneracy

>>40064624
>T.Jewcuck pornaddicterson

>>40065513
>>40065554
Why that obssession with Jews?

Does anyone else feel like their dick feels/looks bigger on nofap? Like when I'm fapping regularly my dick often shrivels into a little white tic tac. almost 1 week of nofap right now tho and it looks/feels bigger. maybe it's cause the near-constant state of semi-arousal or something, idk.

>>40065645
Yeah kinda
The other night while I was showering I noticed that my dick looked bigger and felt like...it was sore as if I was lifting with it.
I have no idea what that was.
As a matter of fact my dick looks weirdly massive in the mornings.

>>40038721
I've had erotic dreams but never a wet one. It's even worse in a way because you can envision the hottest shit that isn't possible in reality but with no pay off.

>>40065441
>anon wants to cure sensitivity for his dick
>suggests fleshlight
This is the guy that say masturbation is fine lmao