Do you care about your health? Yes? Stop eating meat. Do you

I would if it didn't taste so damn good

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>>40027659
quality thread faggot
kill yourself

>>40027659
how about you kill yourself so i can eat you, save a cow headbutt a train

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>>40027659
>Stop eating meat.

And achieve "gains" like these after a decade of lifting?

>>40027659

Shoo shoo back to tumblr you vegan terrorist

unless I eat fatty red meat or mercury filled sea fish, which I don't, meat is absolutely good my health
the key to making the environment safe is reducing overpopulation, not forcing the existing people to eat shit
the emotional state and future life plans of some chicken (if it has any) are meaningless to me, sorry

>>40027666
and yet /fit/ attacks fatties for not being able to control their dietary habits

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>>40027724
There is always one retarded faggot like you that thinks he actually knows shit.
>fatty red meat
>mercury filled sea fish
>overpopulation
body timestamp now

>>40027724
And how are you going to reduce the population by yourself? Isn't it just easier to eat different foods?

>>40027724
>meat is absolutely good my health

>he actually thinks meat is good for his health

TOP KEK

what's more poisonous, the fags or the vegans?

oh wait, they're the same.

The healthiest diet is unironically a plant based diet with little to no meat or animal products.

And I don't give a fuck, if they didn't want to be eaten they shouldn't taste so good.

>>40027766
I'm pretty sure that it's the seasoning that tastes good, not the meat itself.
You ever had a steak with no seasonings at all? Yummy

>>40027779

A little salt brings out all the flavor components that any piece of meat needs, as do maillard reactions.

>>40027808
So it is the seasonings you enjoy, just like I said.

>>40027766
diet containing fish and occasional red meat/animal fat is always going to be better than a diet without. it's just about proportions.

>>40027816

>salt brings out flavor
>maillard reactions are a reaction when something hits a certain temperature

Not really seasonings. Food without salt is naturally bland no matter what it is. Salt and fat are flavor. Meat tastes better with a little salt and naturally has fat.

>ignores actual studies which say soy protein is dangerous and reduces mortality
if i could get good protein on a vegetarian diet, i would

>>40027779
Not sure what kind of shitty steaks you are buying
But good meat requires very little seasoning (just a bit of salt and pepper)

>>40027709
How is VeganGayz so small after 7 years?
He looks like me after 4 months of noob gains

>>40027856
I never said that soy was good, in fact soy is fucking terrible for you.
Chickpeas are a very good source of protein, there is obviously plenty of good protein sources on a plant based diet.

>>40027846
That is wrong sir. There is not one single nutrient that you need from red meat, chicken or fish that you can't get from plants.
Inb4 muh b12. Take a supplement, chlorella or nutritional yeast.

>>40027849
Salt is a seasoning. Steak tastes shitty without salt. Ergo, you're enjoying it for the seasonings.

>>40027902
You're forgetting that proteins have a different amino-acid build in plants, which makes it harder for our body to absorb it
It's like having to fix a faulty heart valve, why do you think they take one from a pig's heart instead of make one out of leaves or some shit?

>>40027942
But salt does bring out flavour, same way how adding CO2 to water brings out the flavour of its naturally occuring minerals

>>40027945
That is wrong. Literally every single food has a complete amino acid profile.

>>40027902
nutritional yeast is dope

>>40027659

Id give up meat, if I wasnt scared to turn into a little bitch like all vegans are

>>40027999
It is, tastes like cheese

>>40027988
Bruh literally one second of googling will tell you that animal and plant proteins have different amino acid profiles

Health is subjective. I want to make mad gains and for that meat is GOAT

>>40028005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTaGZ6KLDwI
Patrik is a little bitch isn't he

>>40027659
Give me one source of evidence that turkey isn't good for you.

>humans evolved to eat both veg and meat
>people who live longest eat both veg and meat
>people who deny themselves one or the other look sicker and die sooner
>if you cut out meat you suddenly need to start taking synthetic vitamins so your brain doesn't literally age faster than your body and that synthetic vitamin has side effects that are fucking horrifying including memory loss and siezures, the thing you're trying to avoid by taking it
>if you cut out veg your heart will implode
We're omnivores. We need to be omnivores to live optimal lives. This is basic nutrition that I would expect a high school dropout to understand.

The fact that vegans think their diet is in any way more healthy than omnivorous is a testament to the abject failure of whatever education system bothered to fuck up teaching them nutrition.

>be an omnivore
>literally made to eat both plants and meat
>autistic fags keep telling me being vegan is better for me

Shoo shoo gains goblins

>>40028048

Cant judge his personality by watching a vid or a picture. I wasnt even talking about being strong, or being ripped.

I was talking about the fact that pretty much all vegans I have ever met in my life are sensitive little bitches that cant shut the fuck up about their vegan cancer

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>vegan advice
kys

>>40028052
>>people who live longest eat both veg and meat
except scientific studies show that vegetarians live longer

>>40028084
Tumblr blogs aren't scientific studies

>>40028025
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.long
>>40028050
Saturated fats and cholesterol.
Promotes cancer, heart disease, stroke and diabetes.
>>40028052
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
Omnivores and carnivores can eat as much saturated fats and cholesterol without clogging their arteries, we humans on the other hand eat too much and our arteries will clog and we die.
Vegans have the lowest mortality risk, you're very wrong about people eating an omnivorous diet living longer. Vegans live the longest.

>>40028084
Compared to the average person. That's because the average person has no idea of health at all and eats fast food and drinks soda. Of course a vegan is going to be above average in terms of health because they pay more attention to what they eat. Compared to a healthy person who knows nutrition and consumes meat the meat eater would probably live longer

What's funny is as you get older you'll start to agree with OP, even though he is making his point in an abrasive manner. I eat meat because it is ubiquitous but I do intend at some stage to tone it down and stick with plant based food.

>>40028115
>lowest mortality rate
>highest rate of being a faggot bitchboy.

I think ill stick to meat. kthx.

>>40028140
You go ahead and do that if that makes you feel big and manly.

>>40027763
>actually thinking unprocessed meat is bad for you health.

>>40028140
Kek

>>40028084
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition disagrees.

Those studies failed to account for correlation not equaling causation.

In post-war Germany the stork population fell with the birth rate. Now, you may be deeply troubled to learn that despite that fact, storks don't cause babies.

So it goes with vegetarianism and longevity. It's true that vegetarians live longer (at least among the Seventh Day Adventists that were the target of the study that found they live 6/9 years longer) but vegetarians are also more likely to smoke less and drink less alcohol, exercise more and be married. All factors that have a causal link with longevity.

The actual relationship between vegetarianism/veganism and longevity has never been proven through nutrition, only correlation. And if you can't prove it through nutrition then you haven't proven anything.

>>40028154
thanks i will.

You can continue to try to push your views on others to make yourself feel morally superior, like someone with too much estrogen. Stay small bro, stay small.

yeah true but being vegan is retarded
I'll keep my honey and ice cream thank you. don't eat meat tho
still eat tuna sometimes

>>40028115
Note how the link you posted has nothing to do with the topic at hand

>>40028084
>people who tend to focus on their health live longer than people who don't

do a control group of meat eaters that try to watch their weight and stay healthy rather than just the general population and see how it goes.

>>40027659
>this is what vegans think normal people mean by healthy food
>this is why they consider veganism to be a healthier choice

at last i truly see

I feel like OP is just samefagging. No way there's this many vegancucks right?

normal person:
>read meat is unhealthy? i'll eat less of it

retard:
>red meat is unhealthy? time to quit eating it, along with chicken, honey and egg whites

that said no such retards exist probably, it's just vegans acting as if anyone aims for an absolutely 100% clean perfect diet

Last time I checked I had canine teeth and the ability to eat all the meat I want. If nature didn't want me to eat it I wouldn't be designed to do it.

>>40028115
>Vegans have the lowest mortality risk
>Atherosclerosis affects only herbivores

Do you even read what you post?

>>40028174
I'm 18 and today I squatted 110 kg 12 reps, what's your squat bro?

>>40028189
Duh

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>>40028236
>110kg squat
>impressive

That's my warmup weight

>>40027724
>he fell for the overpopulation meme

>>40028244
Ah I see, did you squat that at my age after 2 years in the gym?

>>40028222
This is why you can feed a dog veggies.

Go on, open a dogs mouth, take a look in there, look at his molars.

Now look in a cats mouth. No flat teeth. Cant feed him veg.

I wonder what could possibly be happening here.

Maybe theres a link between what you're supposed to eat and the equipment you use to eat.

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>>40027659
Didnt read thread because the default questions you asked and answered are wrong

if you do like the nature, you should avoid veggies and non manipulated stuff, since growing them takes more space than the good stuff, hence you destroy forests.

hippie btfo

>>40028222
And by the way. If it wasn't for hunting we wouldn't have developed either social, linguistical or tool-making skills. Go ahead and tell me how humans could have evolved being herbivores

>>40028244
I can max 160 kg at 18 after 2 years of lifting, and I don't even train for strength.

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>>40028256
I squatted that after 5 months of noob gainz you DYEL faggot

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>>40028115
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/

Have you got ref 1 at hand? Specifically: "Atherosclerotic disease: an anthropologic theory. Medical Counterpoint. 1969;1:53–57"

Becuz I'm not buying citation 2, pic related.

>>40028256
>2 years of training
Dude, stop. Oh god please stop. Your not doing yourself any favors. You should be closer to 300 after 1 year.

Your not doing your argument any favors. oh god. dude please be trolling.

>>40027759
Thing is no one has to
To thinks humans dont have a population growth limit is silly, we probably wont see it in our lifetime but the population will peak at some point
Plus viruses

>>40027816
Do you not season your vegetables?

>>40028280
For 12 reps? I highly doubt that

>>40028078
Ok I'll roll

>>40028286
ITS KG NOT LBS YOU DUMB FUCK
>>40028290
I do, but they taste fine without it too. Meat doesn't.

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>>40028295
Squats and diddlylifts are the easiest excercise ever
I wouldn't mock you if you were talking about bench or OHP, but you're taking pride in squatting babyweight after 2 years

>>40028305
Yes and 300 was in lbs. I am not advocating that someone should be squatting 600 lbs after 1 year. Are you literally fucking retarded?

To make it easier for you, you should be squatting 135-140 KG after 1 year

>>40027659
MY BODY IS A FUCKING ZOO GODDAMN IT,NO A TEMPLE

I BEAT THE IT I MAKE IT GROW,WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU MAKES YOU BIGGER

5 SCOOPS COME ON BROS LETS MAKE THIS OUR YEAR

>>40028305
>but they taste fine without it too. Meat doesn't
I find the opposite, but that is why god invented sriracha!

>>40028286

What the fuck are you even talking about? 300kg squats after a year of training? Are you serious?

>>40028308
Yeah, I've never seen anyone my age squat what I squat ass to grass.
I bet you squat parallel.
>>40028318
Not when are my age, if you are in your 20's yeah maybe. Also I had no idea what i was doing the first months in the gym.

>>40028341
>>40028318
Both of you are fags.

>>40028256
>18 & trying to tell people how to live their lives
>2 years of training for 110kg squat
>vegan

This guy has it all

>>40028341
Whatever makes you feel good, but arguing with people to be vegan by busting out your impressive squat, ill just give you a tip and say...Don't. Maybe to non-lifters but don't come to a place that lifts and throw that around to convince people.

>>40028354
Thanks for adding so much to the conversation. Your input has been noted. Have a free /shrug as your receipt.

>>40028341
>I've never seen anyone my age squat what I squat ass to grass.
Because surprise surprise, most people are DYEL faggots who don't care about weightlifting

>>40028305
Maybe you just have bitch tier taste buds

I grew up hunting and camping where you eat what you kill and you don't bring seasoning to those trips

After you finally bag something and cook it no matter what it is (usually) it's the best thing you've ever had

>>40028387

110kg squat is not bad. It's the fact that he's vegan that you even care. You should care more about if his form is on point or how many reps he can squat 110kg.

Too bad you're a fucking idiot.

Lifting heavy or being shredded doesnt magically make you a badass u fucking morons. Just look at half of /fit/. Shredded beta boys crying about not having a gf all day.

You can be vegan, you can lift heavy, you can look shredded, but youre still a faggot ass bitch boy

>>40028335
300lbs
~150kg

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>>40027659
>THE HOW TO GET LITERALLY NO GAINS AFTER YEARS OF LIFTING STARTER PACK

>not hunting and eating your own venison

>>40028411
>110kg squat is not bad
After 2 years it is

>>40027942
>>40027816
Some of the best steaks I've ever had have been the ones I sear and cook myself.

I salt the steaks and let them sit for 30-40 mins, and then wash the salt off, dry it, coat it with olive oil and sear it.

Explain that. Unless you want to tell me that olive oil is a spice.

>>40028257
Dogs are omnivores like humans, you fucking retard. We literally evolved to eat both meat and veggies.

Link me to any study at all ever that shows chicken having negative effects at all

>>40027659
I eat meat almost everyday and Im healthy as fuck (I do 2 blood tests per year)

>>40028450
Not chicken but eggs
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2579593/

>>40027659
>Do you care about animals?
No not really, desu. They're inferior beings used for my gains.

>>40028257
>Now look in a cats mouth. No flat teeth. Cant feed him veg
My cat eats cucumber tho

>>40027659
mods pls ban vegan shills

>>40028518
And my cat likes grass but it will die if you don't give meat to it

>>40028335
>What is lbs

>>40028537
I know

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These threads need to stop.

Not only is it a shitty spam meme but it's something even /ck/, a board specifically for diet and food, gets rid of because it's purely there to encourage arguments and stupidity

Can we at least agree not to bump these threads from now on /fit/?

>>40027659

Not eating meat is stupid

Mass breeding animals for meat is also stupid.

Why is are most people always so fucking ignorant that they can only think and act in black and white

>>40028078
rollan

>>40028130
Agreeing with this, as much as I love my meat. No reason not to eat as much as I do right now cause I'm 19 and in good health to handle it (plus im 6'4 and gains without my chicken would be nigh impossible), but once I get older and have better money I do plan on cutting back a lot.

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This thread is now a yummy meat thread. Post yummy meat

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>>40028617

>>40027659
Veganism causes b12 deficiency:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

Veganism causes d3 and calcium deficiency:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928

>>40027659
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476

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>>40027763
you never ate an animal you killed yourself did you annon? i bet you think corn got he civilization to where we are.

>>40028236
You are a weak vegan bitch

>>40028433

It really isn't.

>>40028730
It really is, even if he started with the bar, that is a gain of 90kg in 2 years, most people get that improvement in about 6 months if they eat properly, which as a vegan he clearly doesn't.

>>40028730
Yes it is. That is garbage.

Vegans have a much longer recovery time than non vegans, that probably explains your low squat numbers.

>>40028130
I agree we should eat less meat and more plants, but I haven't yet seen any compelling evidence for a plant exclusive diet over a plant based which include some animal products; my n=1 is I'm able to maintain <2mmol/l LDL-C despite eating 1-2 chicken breasts and a couple of scoops of whey per day.

>>40028730
100kg squat should be achieved within half a year of your workout, otherwise you are doing something very wrong

>>40028341
In what bitch boy country do you life? there are thousands of highschoolers that squat that weight and even way more

Jesus, another of those vegan preaching faggotry threads?

>say my name, sissy boy

>>40028078
Rollin

>>40027659
Yes to the last 2 means youre a faggot

>>40028780

I'm not vegan.

>>40028876
Well then you have no excuse for having a 110kg squat after two years

>>40028883
kek

YEAH ANON WHY DON'T YOU JUST EAT FUCKING SALT HUH

>>40028115
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2013639/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1911452/
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-185X.1964.tb01163.x/full
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1965.tb49433.x/full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9389784/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4634814
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4161799
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/167808
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13547383
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021915072900214
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0021997505801264
http://www.nzg.ac.za/research/forms/wdi_eagle.pdf
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(62)90180-0/fulltext

>gets proven entirely wrong the previous vegan shill thread
>still tries to push the EXACT SAME LIE that was already debunked

This is why nobody who isn't brain damaged can't take a vegan seriously.

>>40028883

Are you vegan?

>>40028433
110 kg for 12 reps after 2 years of lifting when you turned 18 a month ago is not bad. I can max 160 but then again I don't train for strength hence why I rep out 110 for 12.

>>40028979
And I'm not no autist faggot who quarter rep, I actually go ass to grass and pause.

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>>40028461
Yes and I said chicken. Are you mentally handicapped?

>>40027659
Dude your fucking embarrassing yourself. My son is 16 and has been weightlifting for a year and is already doing 120kg 15 reps.You're here bragging about your vegan lifestyle yet you're only doing 110kg reps? Please kys.

>>40029025
No he doesn't

>>40028663
>>40028677
>T.jew

>>40028450
Chicken are very high in methionine, methionine is carcinogenic

>>40028979
It's certainly not good either.

>>40029068
Is

>>40029065
Jews want you to be vegan though
Part of the make-all-western-men-faggots plan

>>40028942
Of course not

>>40029072
Ah what did you squat when you just turned 18 good sir?

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>everyone talking shit
>no body pics attached
>no bloods attached
There needs to be a rule for these types of bullshit threads

>>40029093

Why not?

>>40028443
Steak is one of the few meats that requires minimal seasoning.

>>40029021
Did you even read the article it was a joke

>>40029109
Why should I

>>40029102
http://imgur.com/a/uBlXX
This is an old pic of my legs during a bulk, they're bigger now (and leaner)

>>40029052
>This amount of denial
>faggy vegan OP gets btfo in his own thread and now has to tray and save face
>butthurt OP can't deal with the fact that omnivore teenagers are doing more than him
You measure in kg so you're most likely European or some shit. I guess my proud home of burgerland really is the epitome of GAINZ

>>40029129
>My son is 16 and has been weightlifting for a year and is already doing 120kg 15 reps
This never happened, you don't even have a son anon you can't fool me

>>40029129
Probably he does not realize that highschoolers squat that much here.

>>40029151
Ok so lets say I don't have a son. That doesn't change the fact that their are 16 year olds who eat meat that squat way more than you, but hey, you'll live 4 years longer than us. :^)

>>40029121

Why shouldn't you?

>>40028448
read what he said you retard

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>>40029126
>Those dyel as fuck legs

>>40029259
There probably is. But I'm fine with squatting 160 kg after 2 years in the gym at my age, I have yet to seen anybody my age squat more where I live.
I never said that I was the strongest kid alive, but the fact remains that you still can make gains while being vegan just as good as you can make gains while eating meat.

>>40029339
They're bigger than yours

>>40028078
jesus lifting christ, how do people not do most of this anyway ?

>>40027659
you do know what happens to billions of livestock and fish if we stop eating meat, right?

>>40029496
We're obviously not going vegan over night, it's going to be a slow decrease. Supply and demand, hello?

>>40027659
>Do you care about your health? Yes? Stop eating meat.
I have no issues with my health.

>Do you care about the environment? Yes? Stop eating meat.
It wouldn't matter in the overall scheme of things. However, when in vitro meat becomes affordable, I'm happy to switch.

>Do you care about animals? Yes? Stop eating meat.
I care about certain animals.

>>40028236
I squatted that at 15 you dyel faggot

>>40028236
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm a meat eater and at 18 I was squatting 140kg for 5 sets of 8.
At 26 I'm a lean bodybuilder who eats meat and I squat 200kg for 3 sets of 8.
Fucking vegans are such pussies.

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>>40027659
show me how I can eat 3000 calories and ~150grams of proton per day without eating a fuckload of carbs on a vegetarian diet and I'll do it

>>40029569
I could probably go for 8 reps on 140 in a few months, i got 11 months before I'm 19 so I'm pretty sure that the 18 year old me is going to squat more than the 18 year old you at the end on the year.

>>40029527
overpopulated fish and edible aquatic creatures would be a problem, billions of livestock euthanized and wasted
lmao peta thinks this is ethical
fucking vegan

>>40029621
Lentils and beans, peas, oats, plant based protein powders.
Also vegetarianism is retarded, you should be vegan.

>>40029652
No you stupid fuck, if we don't raise any animals we wont have any to waste

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>>40029657
>without eating a fuck load of carbs
>gives moderate protein carb sources and protein powders

>>40027902
If we're using that logic I actually wouldn't have to dat fruit and veg, since I can just supplement my vitamines and fibre

>>40027659
Meat in moderation is actually healthier than vegan diet cuz creatine, b complex and, in case of fish, highly bioavailable fatty acids.

I care about the environment. Thats why I mantain my carbon footprint low even while eating meat. Also I do not intend to have more than one child. That alone puts me well beyond most third world shithole people that reproduce like rabbits and lower the maximum carbon footprint for each individual.

I just care about animal capable of being self aware and able to have some sort of rational thinking (or the start of it). Thats why i dont eat chimps, octopi nor dolphins.

You, on the other hand, are the kind of self righteous person that ends up imposing their bullshit moralistic views the moment the chance presents itself.

Please go die in a fire.

>>40029740
You can get those nutrients from plants

>>40029362
Even if they were, they're not,you are still a dyel manlet

>>40029657
>protein powder
Wow Veganism is such a great diet lol, you have to use supplements

>>40029803
I'm 5"11 and yes they are

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>>40029796
>You can get omega 3's from plants
No you can't. I've already posted four sources proving that is bullshit. Try again vegan dumbass.

>>40029796
Sure, but I would have to eat more of thise plants and I already struggle with eating enough in order to get bigger, so no thank you.

Also you have not adressed the rest of the arguments.

>>40029821
Meat eaters dont use protein powder?

>>40029834
>5'11
Manlet lol.
What's funny though is that if you were a vegan throughout childhood, you would not have grown to that height, you would have been much shorter. Really makes you think

>>40029861
Yes some do, I do not though.

You're implying that every single person that eats meat must use protein powder, which is complete bullshit.

The thing is, with our diet we can get adequate protein through our diet without being forced to use supplements.

Vegans lose, again

>>40029914
No? I dont take protein powder as a vegan and I'm fine

>>40028078
rolling...

>>40029939
OK post a daily food log and bloodwork then.

>>40027709
Why is he green though.

>>40028990
is that really safe? I'm 2 meters tall, I played basketball throughout my child and teen life and decided to pick up going to the gym instead when I passed into Uni.

I'm almost 22 now and the orthopedrician has repeatedly consulted me to stop doing ass to grass because according to him it can literally destroy the meniscus through friction.

True enough, when I take breaks from lifting and I hit the gym again, soon as I catch up with my max reps knees start to hurt really bad. I've asked the trainers if my technique is correct. Everyone is suggesting that ass to grass is harmful. What do?

>>40029978
That seems like a lot of work

>>40028078
FUCK IT

>>40027751
Being being obese is actually bad for you

>>40030066
Going too low could be bad for your knees but proper form should be going pretty low but not too low, idk you might do something wrong with your form.
I have never had any problems with my knees doing squats though. It might be your length? I really don't know

>>40030161
is there anything intrinsically wrong with trying to find a posture that suits you best?
Everyone (trainers at the gym, other gym rats and online fitness freaks) keeps suggesting that leg span should be shoulder distance, but I find it much technically easier and rewarding to open them up more than that.

>>40029642
Not on a vegan diet you won't :^)

>>40027659
>Hitler didnt eat meat, and loved animals
you are a nazi

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>>40029680
Not the same anon but you are retarded. Even if it is a slow decline these animals have been bred to be domestic animals for thousands of years. They populate quickly compared to wild animals and are useless as fuck in the wild and would destroy the food chain anywhere they would go. Maybe it would take thousands of years to re-introduce them into the wild but then do you even think about the business end? You are expecting business to invest and people to put their money into something with slowly dwindling profit? What about the people that need the jobs in slaughter houses or farming animals and their by-product? Eventually they all get fired and then what? Also its hypocritical as fuck for a vegan to say you can't eat meat for ethical reasons but then not talk about shit like sweatshops where they get half or more of their clothing, and products from china with shitty work conditions, or the poor fuckers that have to pick these fruits and vegetables all of which is a whole other can of worms. Being hypocritical doesn't mean Veganism is wrong just by virtue of being hypocritical but how can you expect someone to adopt your thought process if you can't even apply it uniform to everything. I think you're very naive and haven't thought it completely through as much as you think you have.

>>40027659
>Do you care about your health?
If I did, I would be doing cardio
>Do you care about the environment?
If I did, I would be a pussy tree hugging liberal
>Do you care about animals?
nah m8

Can this trend just die already and be replaced with something slightly less cancerous??I mean keto and paleo weren't even pushed this hard

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>>40029680
>>40030309
>Told status = TOLD AF
Gj m9 most vegans are tarded as all hell. I dont eat much meat myself mostly for micronutrients .

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>>40030521
>implying that you even as a vegan are not responsible for the death of pigs
>implying you do not use any animal products
>implying any one here is even really vegan

Why do vegans want cows and pigs to go extinct?

Well maybe not pigs, we could still use them for finding truffles, I guess.

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>>40030628
>Implying I give a fuck about the lives of pigs or other animals that are used for food
>I do imply I love animals not used for food tho
>I imply I am not a vegan, that is retarded
>I imply that a human should have a huge palette of different foods on their menu for it makes you stronger. Eating too much of something weaker so there must be balance.
>I dont imply I dont use any animal products, infact I do. The leather on my shoes has to come from somewhere.
Right wing all the way!

>>40028078
Rollerino

>>40029065

>vegans get summarily BTFO
>better call him a Jew!

>>40029621
Define "fuckton" of carbs.

If you are OK with 250-350g of mostly complex carbs, just do what >>40029657 said and also quinoa. If you want to be below 200g, you'll need to eat a fuckton of: tofu, tempeh, seitan (mix with beans for complete protein), mock-meats and nuts (high calorie but since you're aiming for 3000kcal that should not be an issue) and of course protein shakes.

I managed to do <100g of carbs and >150g protein while losing weight, ate about 1700-1800kcal per day and avoided mock-meats as far as possible.
Just eating a scramled tofu for breakfast and downing a protein shake gave me about 90g of protein.

>>40028078
rolling!

>>40030628
i'm not vegan, but, this is a bad argument. if you could cut out a large majority of the deaths, why wouldn't you? that said, i love steak so fuckthe animals

>>40028078
rollan, bring it in boys

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>>40027659

No sorry, I'm not a cuck

>>40028078
I-I'm not a neckbeard!

>>40028078
They see me rollin'

>>40030067
Then post a time stamped body pic. That's easy as fuck.

>>40031076
qft

I'd rather die a happy man eating meat

>>40028078
rolling

>>40028448
That's exactly what he said pal

>>40027766

Tripfag gtfo

Oh shit dubs. Well this is awkward.

>>40028405
DYEH game? You're a fucking liar or your family is full of retards who don't understand anything about curing meat.

>>40027659
I only care about macros, calories and efficiency.
Meat is cheaper, its protein is better, and it's also tasty.

Also, keep your soy oestrogen, your lack of b12, and your liver faillure diet out of my face. Want to be a fucking passive herbivore ? Good, but keep it up your arse you candy-ass

>>40028078
everjustsaidfuckit

Listen at 4m50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKiGjQvFN44&t=305s

>>40029114
lmao you can't use steak as an argument and then say that

>>40027862
He says he lost interest in lifting after 4 years and started only going once or twice a week

>>40027659
Stop forcing your damn opinions on people I would never walk up to a vegan and tell him to eat meat

>>40027709
he's a fucking vegan

vegans are retarded

vegetarian masterrace

>>40028236
>110 kg 12 reps
lol