how bad does jacking off fuck up muh gains? was on a nofap streak

>>40022466
It literally doesn't affect your gains at all. Nofap is a meme.

>>40022475
shhh dont tell em

u r fuked. nogainz until literally 2017 unless u repete after me

"I AM AN IGNORANT RETARD AND THE PRODUCT OF AMERICAN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND I AM ASHAMED OF MYSELF AND MY LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS"

same goes for everyone viewing or posting ITT.
meme magic in effect, do not underestimate Kek or her powers

>>40022475

I think there's some merit to the "if you watch porn, it'll make you less determined to go out and find a girl", but yeah, the whole shit about fapping decreasing testosterone is BS.

>>40022466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQc1nFLCqP8
Rip says it doesn't.

>During male orgasm the brain releases a dopamine and endorphin pulse as high as a dose of heroin
> A dopamine spike like that (or several) lowers dopamine receptor sensitivity
> Shitty dopamine receptor sensitivity causes anxiety, CFS & depression
>Even lack of motivation, tenacity and lack of feelings of achievement.
>Orgasms make you want to have another orgasm
>To achieve orgasm your brain has to dump Serotonin
>After orgasm you get a long lasting spike of Prolactin
>High prolactin inhibits dopamine, testosterone and LH
>Serotonin and Dopamine together are responsible for impulsivity, "aggression" and dominance
>Prolactin increases 5ar production (hairloss)
>Orgasm also reduces androgen receptor density in the brain
>High amounts of zinc, selenium and copper are lost each jizz
>Which can lead to low test (zinc), low t4 (selenium) and neurodegeneration (copper)

So aside from the addictive angle we are having two physical problems here. One is the neuroreceptor degradation, the other is the loss of essential and hard to get minerals. Lack of ejac recycles semen in the body through which none of the building blocks of the man juice is lost. But I guess with adequate supplementation one could keep being a wanker.

It seems though that there is no way around the neuro sides. It pretty much does act like a drug, desensitizing your receptors and then giving you less receptor firing in every day life -> being sluggish, low energy, low dominance, being timid, low achieving, "not feeling like doing it" etc. This makes a lot of sense evolutionary wise as well as humans unlike rabbits are not "made" to copulate that much or have offspring in that size. Our biology seems to be K selected rather than R selected and puts a stress and drain on our body and its resources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

>>40022466

it doesnt, nofap is a meme

>>40022658
The man has been on ass fulls of steroids for longer then you've been alive.
Nothing he fucking does will ever impact his test because he gets it from a fucking vial.

Same goes for all of those people who try to prove that having sex or masturbation doesn't affect test or sports performance. But use heavily geared up athletes as a way to prove it.

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Porn abstinence is a two edged sword; you start finding all kinds of shit attractive.

How the fuck did I get a boner to Happy Tree Friends?

>>40022687
Gunna start icing your balls for those test gains?

>>40022466
>how bad does jacking off fuck up muh gains?
It doesn't

>was on a nofap streak but just jacked it like4-5times today

>been doing very well in the gym though including today
You'll be fine

>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

no fap peaks test around day 7, after which it drops again.

so jerking it once a week is optimal.

>>40023714

if i fap weekly do you think ill be Ok binge faping like 3-5times on that day or should i try to do it once and only once?

If you have the energy and libido to fap all the time, then it doesn't affect your gains. If you're like me and after 2-3 days in a row of fapping you lose all of your sex drive, then don't do it.

>>40023830
I would say do it no more than twice on that day, and get some extra sleep that night to compensate. You're gonna get diminishing returns in terms of orgasm quality anyway.

>>40023830
There's nothing wrong with jerking the it multiple times a day and there's no reason to limit your faps. Keep fapping, you'll be fine

>>40023902
yes good goy

>>40022466
Repost from another thread: Imo, nofap should be combined with working out and taking the holy grail of cum. I've been on nofap since 12/28, working out at least 3 times a week, and taking the holy grail dick ingredients. I excersize my imagination while in the shower and in bed to get erections. When If finally do break my nofap after another 3+ weeks, I'll only fap 2 times a week, every mon/fri.

I'll also do noporn for the first few weeks, move on to girl only, do man on woman at like the end of the month 1 time, and then loop the cycle. So for me nofap is just one of my many tools to improve my dick performance.

I also do Kegels/Reverse kegels Mon-Wed-Fri and rest Sat/Sun.

>tfw fap once a week
>feel exhausted for the next week

getting old is hell

>>40022466

Fries your brain, but has no effect on gains/test.
Fap once/twice a week, just to change your oil or get some pussy.
You are not supposed to fap every day multiple times.

Every time I go to the fap threads the first thing I do is ctrl+f "chaos" to see if /fit/'s equivalent of the barneyfag is here

>>40024067
> pure unfiltered autism

>>40024262
Please elaborate.

>>40024067
What's the point, it's not like you are going to use your dick anyways.

>>40024275
>it's not like you're going to use your dick anyways
This is actually true, as I'm a virgin and plan on staying one until marriage. However, that doesn't mean I don't want to get a properly functioning dick to be ready for that golden day. I'm going to get both my body and dick /fit/.

>>40024291
I'm just advising you to not waste your money on a cum and dick stack.
Do Kegels, they are a fucking magic, don't watch porn and try not to fap more than once a week, you'll be good.

>>40024305
I want to treat my cum/dick stack like a daily routine that will last for life, like working out. The end goal is of course to stop watching porn, but that's not something I should rush into doing, otherwise I will 100% fail. It's like how I started off my workout routine. I used to go easy at the gym starting off for the first few weeks, and gradually started to increase my workout.

So I'll still use porn, but only like every 3rd week after using my imagination. I'll also fap twice a week to start off with. I have to take it nice and slow, these steps are already major steps for me.

>>40023480
Let's see an unfunny blogpost from some faggot or actual scientific evidence stating that masturbation lowers your testosterone and frequent masturbation of the heavy internet addicted lowlives like me lowers your testosterone to that of a castrate and increases estrogen sensitivity and production.

Hmmm.

>>40023902
That's right goy keep masturbating to gook cartoons.

>>40022670
Noones gonna fucking respond to this? I'm curious how accurate this is.

>be virgin
>decide i should probably learn what its like to put on a condom

>try putting on some condom I found in my closet (expired like 2 years ago)
>have trouble pulling it down my shaft right past the head but once it moves a bit it gets easier
>still like an inch of space at the bottom and fits pretty tight

but here's the best part guys

>put condom on right after edging a bit
>tfw was worried i would cum in like 5 seconds especially because my frenulum is really sensitive
>put a bunch of lotion onto my hand and try masturbating
>literally cannot feel anything
>penis literally softening up in seconds with condom on, was softening up even as iwas pulling it down the shaft

i went from being close to cumming to literally killing my boner within 45 seconds with a condom on!

The best argument for no porn that I saw on one of these threads is:

People as stingy as the jews give porn away for free.

That has to make you think twice about watching porn.

If those kikes are giving it away for free, it can't be good for you.

>>40024821
haha le dae gas the fucking kikes XD

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>>40024868
you think this is a joke?

>>40023714
don't listen to this guy. the "seven day" bullshit comes from a flawed chinese study. nofap is just a dumb meme with no science behind, but it's whatever, believe it if you want. a bunch of other idiots on this board do.

>>40022466
It doesnt affect you In any way. People here base their argument off a bullshit study and completely misinterpreted the data and blew the results out of proportions.
Nofap doesnt do shit and has NO effect on your strength or muscle gain

>>40022670
>reads first line
>already bullshit

Someone has never tried any opiates before.

>>40024751
people have jerked off a lot since the beginning of time with no pragmatic differences in life quality

turbo autists latch onto edgy placebo ideas using faulty logic like "it releases dopamine and u get addicted! like heroine@!" ignoring that heorine lasts for 12 hours and orgasming lasts 10seconds meaning the dosages are nowhere near alike

the unfortunate aspect of abstracts to scientific papers being so easy to find is that retards will defy common sense and derive whatever conclusion they want regardless of the evidence

>>40022670
>neuroreceptor degradation

Kek, your green text was somewhat scientifically correct, but with this expression you've shown that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>40022475
>It literally doesn't affect your gains at all. Nofap is a meme.
Keep telling yourself that...

>>40024362
>actual scientific evidence stating that masturbation lowers your testosterone and frequent masturbation of the heavy internet addicted lowlives like me lowers your testosterone to that of a castrate and increases estrogen sensitivity and production.
>Not reading
Actual science says none of that happens

>>40022466
Years spent here and saw no one talk about taking this stack

Don't want to end up like the dude who ended up with illnesses because he fell for some vitamin stack

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>>40024067
Enjoy blowing your load when your eventual future wife so much as touches your dick, faggot.

>>40022475
SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW

FAPPING IS:

1. Lowest degree of homosexuality
2. EFFEMINATE
3. A demonic, PIXELATED THOT trying 2 steal your essence.
4. All of the above.

>>40026838
That's why I practice Reverse kegels in addition to Kegels, and when I do fap I'll make it a point to edge and learn how to enjoy the sensation while maintaining control.

>>40024821

good point

real good point

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Lmao I'll keep going

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>>40023714
>mfw i have to jack every 2 days or else the precum starts leaking out of my dick constantly and my urethra hurts

I never asked for these big cums.

>>40029006
Nigga what the fuck?

>>40024999
Gonna go with yeah.

>>40022945

>Large eye to face ratio
>Lots of red colors, and pick as well
>Sideways hourglass figure(the bow)
>A heart(the symbol of a females rear)

Yeah stay away from that cartoon.

>>40024821
>he still buys into the jew memes
>he still browses /pol/
that place is like an unforgivable aids stew of reddit, ifunny, and twitter. I get that kikes have a bunch of money, but there is no major jewish conspiracy. You can't decide every moral question on whether or not Jews promote it.

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>>40033100

>no major jewish conspiracy