Why are roiders so triggered?

>>39921202
Because people assume a roider didn't do any hard work, that the drugs did everything overnight.

>>39921202
my penor is no more, it is exploded

>>39921202
SAUUUAUAUAUUACE

>>39921236
This. Also, nearly everyone who bitches about roids doesn't fucking lift.

>>39921236
>implying you need to work hard while on gear

fucking kek

>>39921202
Holy shit that vascularity.

>>39921236
The drugs literally do everything overnight.
There are drug cocktails and diet that can literally make you mutate overnight.

>>39921236
Basically this. Normies think you just stick a needle in your arm and look like Arnold by next week. And you probably cut your lifespan in half just because you're so vain and shallow.

>>39921236
>>39921275
>people assume a roider didn't do any hard work
while on steroids you are literally getting muscle mass without even working out and you can even be on a caloric deficit and still make gains

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>>39921260
>instagram.com/carochong

>>39921366
You make like 8-10% more lol. There's a reason roiders still go to the gym and work out

If you did steroids and didn't work out you'd still look dyel

Imagine how veiny and delicious her feet are

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>>39921366
>>39921269
>>39921266

t. never ran a cycle

Roids aren't magic. Yeah, they help you gain faster, recover faster, and gain more muscle and strength, but they aren't a miracle drug. Look at Povetkin, he got busted for PEDs and he looks like shit.

>>39921426
>8-10% more

what kind of pussy dosage are you on faggot?

it's literally fucking magic. roiders that spout this "you still have to work hard" memery are the fucking worst.

>>39921434
>popped for PEDs
>must have been test

fucking kek

>>39921434
H-how do I into P-povetkin mode anon?

>>39921438
then why are roiders working out at all. How come programs and routines for roiders have extremely high volumes, such that a natty couldn't even do.

>>39921451
Drink vodka xF
Fight xF
take soviet-era gear

>>39921469
Don't bother. He's a normie dyel.

>tfw roids make your dick small

>>39921438
t. assmad jelly dyel

>>39921266
>>39921269
>>39921366
>>39921438
The roids are magic meme is only true for girls. A girl on var can get all kinds of gains really fast while a guy is waiting two fucking weeks for the test to kick in.

>those delts
>natty

women are not shaped like that

>>39921202
post that shit in the muscle bitch thread you fucking caner

>>39921236
>>39921275
no one thinks this. Fucking delusional.

These drugs are fucking magic compared to what a normal person can obtain in any amount of time though.
Months of roids>years of hard natural work.

>>39921538
Wow two whole weeks. That's a long time!

>>39921236
>>39921265
>>39921275
>>39921434


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

it literally does most of the work for you. how deluded do you pathetic losers have to be? pic related.

>>39921366
this guy is entirely correct

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>>39921596
forgot pic

>>39921438
You're a fucking retard. Most roiders "work harder" than Natties because they can. They can lift heavy every single day without overtraining.

>>39921593
Notmies do think that you braindead cuck.

>>39921426
>There's a reason roiders still go to the gym and work out
>>39921469
>why are roiders working out at all


Fucking retards. We're talking here that roids will make you gain muscle EVEN if you are not working out but it's painfully obvious that you have to lift and eat correctly to make gains.

>>39921538
>girl on var can get all kinds of gains really fast
if you pop orals you will get instant results aswell so what is your problem?

>guy is waiting two fucking weeks for the test to kick in
do you even know anything about steroids? If you want stable test levels you have to pin eod and wait for test levels to stabilize. That's why people do orals at the beginning before test kicks in.

>>39921596
>>39921605
Stop being a retard. I was a hardcore natty for 9 (NINE!) years and I can tell you roids aren't fucking magic.

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>>39921692

>>39921692
A hardcore natty can tell you after ONE fucking year that steroids are fucking magic.

They are.

They will make any fucking literal retard explode with even the shittiest workout imaginable. They don't even have to go to the gym.
They can just fuck around with zumba and playing basket ball and put on more mass then a dedicated natural with on point diet and hard consistent exercise.

I am dead fucking serious.

Steroids arent magic, they are a drug designed to enhance muscle growth and performance

>>39921803
Steroids are just synthetic tesosterone.

That it actually does that is the reason people inject it.
And when it comes to every single reason one would exercise or diet?
Yes they are.

>all these asspained roiders in this thread

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>>39921202
>>39921423
girls with nice delts really get the juices flowin' lads

>>39921803
yeah and they are really, really good at what they do. Steroids are on their own way more effective than hard work & diet. On average a guy who roids and stays home will gain more muscle than the natty at the gym. Tho he will of course be dwarfed by the guy who roids AND works hard.

>roiders being this salty

Go natty for 5 years and see what you look like

>>39921605
>ONE STUDY IS ALL I NEED TO PROVE MY POINT

sigh

>>39921605
>retarded study which doesnt take water retention, glygocen and all the other shit your muscles will hold during and a while after a cycle

I lose easily 2-3kg just from dropping down to cruise dosage (natty levels) after 3-4 weeks even while I manage estrogen during blast.

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>>39921770
Dear God I wanna roid

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>>39921770
Fuck off. I was just in the gym discussing roids with a kid that was basically dyel mode. That little faggot had done more gear than me and he looked like shit. The fact is you still have to lift and eat right get anywhere with roids.

>>39921236
That's why Rich Piana super sets two 45lb Dumbbells and is done with his arms for the week, right?

>>39922616
But you get more out of doing the same work.

>>39922347
Me too, that and that leanness.

I for one will admit that I like it because it's a physique that's practically unattainable without juice.

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>>39922658
>I for one will admit that I like it because it's a physique that's practically unattainable without juice
that makes it even hotter

Roiders like to pretend they did it all on their own and that the vials they bought were just insurance (or something like that) in case their hard work didn't pay off.

It's like a kid cheating on a test then saying he would have gotten an A anyway.

>>39922639
Yeah, but you can do more work on roids, so it evens out.

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>>39922682
Excuse my latent autism, but it reminds me of this comic

>>39921488
Well I've got the vodka down.

>>39922691
The notion that roiders do no work is a deflection roiders use not to feel guilty. I personally don't give a shit if someone roids because it's their body and their choice, but don't pretend like you're natural out of guilt and don't pretend like it doesn't make bodybuilding easier because that's insulting.

>>39922347
Well, you're a lez so...you know..

>>39922544
>>39922347
you're literally gay

>>39922728
It doesn't make bodybuilding easier, it makes it possible in the first place. Natural "bodybuilding"| is a joke.

>>39922764
Just don't feel guilty if you're going to do it.

>>39922773
I'm not. I feel guilty getting off cycle, though. It seems entirely pointless to lift natty now.

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>>39922751
>he doesn't like grills with pumpkin delts

>>39922390
Every fucking study, sane scientist, and every fucking gym, workout room, playground with a chinup bar, sports field, martial arts dojo, club with "aesthetics bruhs" military and rescue forces personel on the planet will tell you that you're fucking retarded.

Yeah, you'll get a few who's ego will let them lie to you about it being "all their hardwork" but..the steroids actually does give them the testosterone boosted drive to workout harder and longer then a natural as well. So they're basically admitting that they are on gear.

>>39922459
Have fun.
But once you can't afford it or skip a few sessions...your natural test production will go in the toilet probably forever. You'll in effect castrate yourself. Happened to many men and young dumb men.

>>39921692
>being natty qualifies me to talk about roids
so fucking stupid

>>39922616
Nice bullshit anecdote little buddy.
But you really only have to eat a bit more then normal to get bigger. If he did he'd be twice your size with half the effort.

Either that or he's genetically weak and can't put on a good amount of muscle.

>>39922813
Being a long time natty qualifies me to talk about the differences between natty lifting and enhanced lifting.

>>39922829
Yeah, right. That's not how roids work. Besied, I'm 215lbs. He'd have to be on industrial amounts of roids to be twice my size.

>>39922764
Yeah, bodybuilding and "aesthetics" as well as powerlifting like the guys who pimp it here is a big fucking joke.

No one natural can do any of this shit. And anyone natural who even tries will end up frustrated and worse permanently injured even attempting to do the inhuman workload the people who ACTUALLY train are doing.

>>39922851
Nah, powerlifting is about the only lifting sport you can get anywhere natty. I had a 1350 total as a natty, which is not too shabby.

>>39922847
>Yeah, right. That's not how roids work.

>>39922873
Natty = not getting caught using steroids not 100% natural faggot.

>>39922873
They don't do any kind of doping at all in powerlifting. People are essentially Space Marines from all the PEDs that they take.

>>39922807
>he wants a woman with male body
i bet you jerk off to shemales too you faggot

>>39922971
>you're such a DYEL that these girls are bigger than you

>>39922950
>They don't do any kind of doping at all in powerlifting

u wot

>>39922807
Didn't know Hugo Weaving was so ripped.

>>39922807
>girls

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>>39922992
this

>>39922992
girls don't have more test in their veins than i do

>>39921202
Dat gyno

have you guys noticed that these girls are fucking disgusting

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>>39923099
they have more var tho

>>39921434
>Roids aren't magic
>Yeah, they help you gain faster,
>recover faster,
>and gain more muscle and strength

>but they aren't a miracle drug

AYYYYY

>>39923099
>thinks the only anabolics that exist are test

>>39922751
Upvoting this because 100% true

>>39921423
sorry, manly arms on a female is not attractive to me.

>>39923159
what is this chicks insta? shes hot

>>39922807
that male face. has she passed the point of no return /fit/ ? because it looks like that to me.

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>>39923537
physique_princess

>/fit/ likes thick women with big delts

just admit you fantasize over dick /fit/

>>39922807
you sure that isnt Matt Ogus?

>>39922347
You know what always gives them away, men and women roid users? It's the delts. Delts always give them away. No one gets round delts without some type of assistance that is a little beyond natural protein synthesis.

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>>39922971
>>39923042
>>39923067
>>39923646
>>39923965
>hating on Jodi

>>39923646
>male face

no i just think shes ugly naturally

>>39921434

because he isn't a fucking bodybuilder you moron

>>39924150
You have to admit that the roids are starting to take a toll on her face though.

Jodi from a few years ago was perfection

>>39921423
>ruin your feminine body to look like a teenage boy

>>39924486
Even today I'd take Jodi over any of the bimbos in the industry. She's smart, she's funny, she has great work ethic and her conditioning blows my mind every time she competes.

>>39921202
>>39921423

Gross. Reminds me of those fringe stacies from high school that got into fitness (and steroids) during college and always tried to shill their "sponsored" supplements on social media.

It's the easy way out and everyone in here trying to justify themselves sounds like a legitimate drug addict
Not to mention I can see the roid rage even through how you guys type.. "fuckin' this! and fuckin' that!.. grrr I'm so manly!.. they don't do much!... but I couldn't have gotten where I am without them!.. but I don't need them I swear!.."
When I get to my natty limit I'll be proud of myself and know that it was only me putting in the work and my balls will be the same size and I'll still have hair

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Jonah Hill can pull THIS MUCH puss in a day. What's your excuse?

>>39921266
i know you're memeing, but this right here is why so many people on gear look like shit.

>>39924138
Deltlet detected

It has a lot to do with genetics, but you think no one with nice delts is natty? Come on, I have nice delts and I'm natty.

>>39922807
>fake Beats by Dr.Nigger

>>39921266
so true. you can literally build muscle on gear WITHOUT LIFTING

6 year lifter here. 1 year on gas.

I made more progress in the last year on the gas than I did in the first 5 years training natty lifting from noob gains to advanced lifts. I actually eat worse and train doing whatever I want on the day now, every body part on me stays pumped and muscular regardless of how often or not I train it, no matter if I'm overloading or not. Just going to te gym and lifting my 5 year natty lifts while on the gas has done magic for my body. I literally lost like 20 pounds of fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle without changing a thing beside putting gas in me. It's made an inane difference. My dosages are small as well so I can say I'm natty and still be believed by normal people who don't have an eye for gear usage.

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I don't fucking care, I love juicehead girls. The only thing is I prefer the leaner, more feminine and smaller "physique" look rather than the big, bloated bodybuilder look.

>>39922677
It's a shame steroids don't work on her face.

>>39921202
>>39921423
>>39922347
Literally nothing feminine.
yall gay as fuck

>>39923683
>>39923683

lol thats a princess

You guys should just cut out the middleman and start fucking men

>>39922514
>>39922564

That's some nice natty muscles.

>>39921202
that doesn't look like roids, just a very lean girl who just worked out and has a pump

>>39927513
Nigga....

>thread asking why roiders get so triggered
>roiders get triggered within the thread

P O T T E R Y
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So is she half Asian or something?

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>>39924474
Neither are Anthony Joshua and Klitcko but the look better than anyone on /fit/.

>>39926234
they do, thats the problem

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>>39921266
I used to believe this before I started reading steroid forums and it pretty much convinced me that I'll never get on. Because 98% of all juicers don't even look like they juice. You have to take that shit seriously or you won't get anything out of it.

Case in point, this guy did 2 cycles with 1g of juice and got nothing to show for it.

>>39921434
>>39928550
It's almost like different drugs have different effects

>>39928603
But that's my point doing a light test cycle won't turn you from Bruce Banner into the Hulk like natty fags think.

Steroids without lifting will give you nothing. You put on 2 lbs of muscle and 15 lbs of water, and after that the "gains" stop. All these studies linked only present a short period of time. Meaning you make gains for like 3 months and then it stops, because your body has accumulated the muscle mass that fits your new test levels. Once this is done, there is no growth factor left. Steroids without lifting giving more gains than a natty lifter is a myth and false information. But if you dont believe me then go ahead and take steroids and dont lift. You are in for a surprise.

Steroids + lifting works just like natty + lifting but with more results. If you couldnt put on mass as a natty, you wont put on mass as a roider. Excluding the 15lbs water gain because it just doesnt count.

Thats what happens when you dont do jackshit on steroids: http://imgur.com/a/CYFrJ

And that guy was still lifting. There are alot of roiders who end up like this, because they fell for the "take roids and be a lard ass" meme.

ALso >>39928588 . And 1g of test is a really really heavy dosage.

>>39928692
It's from reddit it's fucking hilarious https://www.reddit.com/r/bodybuilding/comments/5jmt5e/heres_a_personal_example_of_what_steroids_can_do/

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8637535
are we getting cucked by the government, by making test illegal?

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>>39921236
>that the drugs did everything overnight.
Not overnight unless with the right dosage :^).People who roid should SERIOUSLY stop posting their shitty defense "b-b-but it still takes hard work,guys".No it fucking doesn't,roiders usually lift the lightest weights and their only "hard work" part is pinning needles into their asses and praying they won't die or go bald.
People who roid and DON'T TRAIN make more gains than natties who have perfect nutrition and training plan,everyone should know that at this point.
It only takes effort for people who compete on a high level but all these kids and teens who get on roids and look bigger and leaner than Zyzz sure as fuck didn't have half his dedication,just the right roids.

>>39922847
>Being a long time natty qualifies me to talk about the differences between natty lifting and enhanced lifting.

Are you extremely retarded or baiting hard?

>>39929066
But anon, it's hard work to find a dealer, not get ripped off, ask other roiders for dosages and getting money for the drugs.

>>39929066
take steroids and dont lift.

cant wait for you to post progression pics like this: http://imgur.com/a/CYFrJ

Oh wait that guy was lifting. You'd look even worse.

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>>39921423
I wanna cuck her boyfriend desu

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>>39929066
>uses fucking zyzz as an example of a dedicated natty bodybuilder

kek

>>39922812
Can't afford it... a bottle of test costs 40-50 euro and can last you 10-20 weeks depending on the cruising/trt dose.

>>39921366
>implying you can't make gains on a caloric deficit
>implying you can't take in sufficient protein on a diet
>implying you're not also taking BCAAs, creatine and all that good nonsense

You're being foolish on the internet my chum.

>>39925395
You do realise roid rage is a myth. It only is partially true for trenbolone.

>>39928614
>everyone is on a low dose of testo

>>39921434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVWrknCISE

Guy went from Jason Genova to a fucking beast in one year.

>>39921202
They don't want to feel shamed or frauded out, but honestly I don't really give a fuck about it. I've had friends that primarily take it like water. It only matters when they deny it. So what if you do steroids.

>>39921236
which is the case when you use muscle enhancing chemicals dumbfuck.

Only mentally ill people take roids

I have always been natural, because I'm just a normal guy who life's lifting. I'm not a professional anything, so why bother going through the trouble? That being said, if I became rich enough were I could get top gear and medical supervision I would absolutely do a cycle.

>>39929605
Howlong have you been lifting for?

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>>39922677
Gross

>>39921202
My mates girl looks like this. She doesn't lift and I doubt she roids. She's just tiny, wiry and has really low body fat. Her brothers are ripped so I reckon it's genetic.

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>>39921202
These people are so vain that's they're willing to put their health, fertility and freedom online to impress people on the internet. Of course they're going to over-sensitive children.

>>39929511
the average gym fag is, unless you think everyone is running 4 compounds

>>39929526
Speaking of Genova, you know he's not natty right? And he still looks like shit because he doesn't train or eat right.

>>39929572
>t. never roided and speaking out of his ass

Holy shit these roiders in this thread are they really that stupid?
Do you not understand how recovery rates differ and how your muscle fibres are altered from a natty
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/mice-continue-to-build-muscle-after-stopping-steroid-use

>>39921236
>you need to work hard if doing steroids

>>39921202
that doesn't even look like roids. Just pump and good lighting

>>39921605
doing nothing and just taking test works better than going natty
>YOU NEED TO WORK HARD EVEN WHEN JUICING MAN

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>>39925442
not a meme. There's research about this. You build more muscles on gear without lifting than a natty guy who lifts.
But because roids are taken mostly by shortcuts guys they'll still look like shit, because of a poor diet and bad research about drugs.

>>39928588
apart from obvious gyno he looks good. Like a natty after 3 years. And he got that after 2 cycles, which is what? few months

>>39922459
It's all true, what he wrote, but after cycle you deflate really fast, can have nasty sides and you feel like a bitch. Even with PCT. Of course, that will vary from man to man.

>>39930695
A natty can look way better in a year of training wtf are you talking about.

>>39930781
do you even lift? I seriously doubt that.

>>39930808
I do. You must look like shit if you think that takes 3 years for a natty lmao.

>>39930831
post pics

>>39921202
>those delts
>on a woman
>au naturel

Top kek

>>39922807
She looks like the fucking Green Goblin.

>>39922514
jesus fuck me silly doggy style sideways look at those delts

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>>39921236
>1500% increase in test levels
>not magic

Here have a (You) Reddit source board shill

>>39922435
Why are you cruising on test to achieve natty levels? Are you naturally low test or have roids fucked up your natural test production?

>>39921202
Is that cheekyasian ?

>>39923421
Wait, how do you upvote/downvote in 4chan? I've been lurking for month without finding any buttons.

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>tfw you can't hide your delts no matter what you wear

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>>39931503

>>39922514
>>39931728
>pinning delts

>>39931626

You need a 4chan gold account

>>39931559
because pct is shit you fucking nigger, blast and cruise or dont roid, cycling is fucking retarded

>>39922812
>>But once you can't afford it or skip a few sessions...your natural test production will go in the toilet probably forever. You'll in effect castrate yourself. Happened to many men and young dumb men.
get a load of this retard?

>>39931728
Wouldbite/10

>>39928550

I hope you understand when I say, you are fucking stupid.

A) Different sports entirely, different responses, and DIFFERENT fucking training. He clearly uses the gym as well as fight training.

Never post again.

>>39922807
how big is that things clit dick from all the tren?

>>39923190
lol these fucking dyke bitches are not on some stupid shit like anavar-only they are on fuckloads of androgenic shit which is why their faces look like men

>>39931659
Jesus, she's fucking disgusting.

>>39922514
look at the acne

>>39931559
especially as I can go as low as 100mg a week and feel fine BnC is retard cheap and I dont have to go through a 2 month PCT with lower energy etc. including acne that I get if I drop the test.

even though I have all the stuff needed for PCT, clomid and nolva that are both legit and only like 1 euro a gram from china and pharma Hcg that I got for free.. its just not worth it in any way.

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>>39931738
>not pinning delts

>>39922514
>>39922677
>>39922807

have a hard time picturing any of these girls being submissive and begging you to fuck them face down ass up

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>>39932401
Povetkin, Klitschko and Joshua are all heavyweight boxer, you fucking retard. Jesus Chirst, how fucking stupid is /fit/?

>>39922638
we are talking about humans famalam

>>39922638
To be fair, Ricardo Panini also injects synthol, gets collagen inserts, all that. Notice his arms don't even flex anymore

>>39921434
>Roids aren't magical
>Here is a list of all the magical things they do to easily allow you to overcome your natural limitations

>>39921202
Seriously though, why do they even try to deny it? It is impossible to be a grill and get any muscles like that without roids, since females have almost no natural test.
It's like if they tried to claim that they don't have vaginas

>>39928692
>Steroids without lifting won't give you easy muscle gains
>Steroids without lifting will just give you muscle gains with so little effort that saying that it will be easy would imply that some form of effort was needed in the first place and thus would be wrong.


Okay sure.

>>39932670
Harder to sell useless supplements to retarded teenagers if you openly admit to being on gear.

>>39930178
Hilariously enough, their natural test production is perma fucked and if they're really unlucky they'll basically chemically castrate themselves.

>>39932370
What, it's true.
Are you a steroid shill or what?

Look at what happened to affleck after he stopped roiding for batman. Bitch tits and fat gut.

>>39921202
theyre triggered because theyre on roids and have roid rage. id be mad if i got called out on my false muscles too

>>39930768
>>39932730
>>39932743
keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better

>>39932749
>false muscles
yes my muscles dont actually exist, they are an optical illusion

>>39921275
>And you probably cut your lifespan in half j
Don¨t you though? I am scared as fuck of juicing because of all of the side effects.

>>39932791
yes look at all the pro bodybuilders who are old as fuck like arnold and frank zane

and those are pros that run grams of gear year round. the average retarded ass gym bro is not risking shit if done properly

>>39921202

The more I see this girl's face the more bizarre she looks to me.

>>39921770

Steroids are magic

I know a guy who is 40 and does steroids, and he barely do like bad 10 pullups for like 4 sets while shit chatting with everyone, does shitty machines for the rest of the hour with no effort whatsoever and he looks better than 90% of the gym moving shitty weights

The dude barely does 12kg for lateral raises and he has insane lateral delts, he doesn't OHP or any shit like that

roidfags are deluded as hell

>>39932816
thats not very encouraging tho, arnold isn't even that old and he looks like a stick that got too many shopping bags hanging from it

>>39932816
The gear took it's toll on arnold bruh. He's had like multiple heart surgeries and is forced to go on a 100% vegan diet.

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>you don't even have to lift!

Roids are magic but you still have to pick things up and put them down again unless you want to end up looking like Jackson Bluehue

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>>39932934
This. Blahino actually does lift, but his diet as shit and his body reflects that.

Natties have no idea, they just wanna blame their shit bodies on being natty.

>>39932869
it was worth it, if he never juiced he would now be some nameless old man sitting in some shitty low income retirement home, playing bingo and waiting for death

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>>39932840
wtf he is 69 years old, what the fuck do you want to look like at 69?

>>39932869
again, a pro bodybuilder that won mr olympia 7 fucking times. he was on doses year round that 99% of gym bros wouldnt dream of running for a couple of months for fear of the risk and stupidity. if you showed the average roider the TRUE doses and length of time of what he was on (not the bullshit he might claim, the TRUTH) you would boggle their fucking minds.

pros these days run literally GRAMS of gear year round, with hgh and insulin.

most roiders probably dont even reach a gram, for a few weeks at a time before taking a break.

health wise, its basically natty > roider >>>>>>>>>>>> pros, aka what most nattys think are the average roiders.

millions and millions of people roid, use common sense. you dont see a giant ass epidemic of steroid users dropping fucking dead of heart attacks and having heart surgery. its just bullshit by the media.

most "bros" run around a gram or less of gear, sometimes a bit more but thats generally it.

in my fucking image... is what a pro would be running. you dont see them dropping dead do you?

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>>39932840
Nigger, he's 70. Still looks better than 99.9% of all men his age.

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>>39932993
Like this

>>39932993
I never said that they're all dropping dead from heart problems.

But many of those guys on gear have to stay on gear because they've basically neutered themselves and have permanently lowered test production.

>>39933022
that's completely false and you are fucking retarded. post a citation or fuck off.

>>39933008
I wonder if he picked up that hundred since it's like change to him

>>39932993
This. Hell, even all the pros in Arnold's day took doses that would be staggering to the average gym rat. Arnold himself was known to eat Dbol like candy and he's still alive. Most of the Golden Age bbers are still alive and in better shape than the average 30-year-old.

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>You still have to work hard when roiding!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8637535

>The group with no excercise and testosterone made more gains than those excercising without test
>Roughly 20% MORE GAINS just by sitting on their ass with a measly cycle of test

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

Why the fuck do you even BOTHER communicating to people who lift when you got literally all your gains from a needle? Literally EVERYONE KNOWS you didnt DO SHIT to earn it, WHY DO YOU COME HERE`?

>>39932934
>Roids are magic but you still have to pick things up and put them down
do you think that people take steroids whitout doing shit and expecting zyzz like physique as a result?

>>39933030
Well, they both grew up poor, I bet they picked it up because they know the value of a dollar.

>>39933046
That's literally what's happening ITT. Just look at this fucking retard >>39933042.

>>39933033
>Arnold himself was known to eat Dbol like candy and he's still alive
how much exactly, do you know?

i fucking hate that shit. i pop 25mg of it and my nipples start hurting and getting senstive even if i am already popping AI like fuck, when normally i dont even need AI at all on 250 test.

cant fucking IMAGINE how these guys used so much of it and dont have giant tits.

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>>39933094
Arnold's tits were massive, m80. It's just that he had alpha genetics and lifted 6 hours a day so they looked good.

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>>39921202
[nospoilers]Been cruising on 5mg Anavar since October. When people ask me, I tell them I'm natty just to piss them off. No regrets.[/on/fit/]

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>>39933046
>Do measly cycle of test
>Do half-assed pumpfocused routine
>Eat whatever, just make sure you stay abit below maintenance

>Make more gains in 3 months than a natty busting his ass of for 2 years

This thread has made me lost all respect I ever had for people chosing the needle.

>>39933127
he has 0 gyno in that pic

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>>39933141
Kek, I do this as well. All my friends know I'm supernatural, but in the gym I pretend I don't know what the fuck I'm doing when someone asks.

>yeah, bruh, you could totally bench 405 like me in 2 years natty no problem, just eat well and make sure to get 8 hours of sleep every night, and never drink alcohol

>>39933154
>pic is some retard who overbulked paying for it by doing psmf and dnp on tren

>>39933127
He's talking about gyno you fucking idiot

>>39933164
Right, because he has good genetics, like I said.

>>39933154
That pic is achievable naturall in the same time frame. I've done it.

>>39933141
yeah i am sure u are blowing everyones minds with 5mg of fucking anavar

>>39933154
>just make sure you stay abit below maintenance
yeah thats how you really pack on the mass

>>39933127
They have surgeries for their gyno

>>39933193
You said he had massive tits

>>39933202
Well, from a certain point of view...

>>39932993
>tamoxifen on cycle
>two esters of test
>both deca and npp
am I being memed or is this really a thing

>>39933184
It's so much fun because idiots can't stand muscles on a girl, I love it.

>>39933195
>yeah i am sure u are blowing everyones minds with 5mg of fucking anavar
I'm bigger than every other chick in the gym and even some guys.

I´ve never been to such depths of desperation and insecurity that I ever contemplated roiding. What´s it like? Is it somewhere in the ballpark of suicidal and not caring about life or just some sort of unhealthy obsession?

I knew one kid who roided, most bullied and depressed little thing in my school. Got busted for assault a while back.

Is it just whackjobs and weirdos who roid?

>>39933240
>chick
oh

>>39933244
yea every model and actor and fitness model and pro BB like arnold are all whackjobs and weirdos

>>39933233
>tamoxifen on cycle
to reduce gyno
>two esters of test
nothing wrong with that, some guys use like to frontload with test p before the effects off test e kick in
>both deca and npp
haven't tried this

>>39933233
Some very advanced users claim that different esters have effects on water retention that aren't noticed until you're using ml's a day.

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>>39933244
That's 50% of roiders, the other 50% is every successful actor, model, athlete, etc.

>>39933251
I asked one of the dyel dudes to shoot that video, he couldn't stop mirin.

>>39933282
Got more? I already fapped, but you know.

>>39921605
that paper has 1455 cites on google scholar. if a researcher could have debunked it, they would have done it by now and wallow in cites.

>>39921434
I thought his tattoo was an abscess

>>39933297
meant to reply to >>39922390

>>39933282
if thats you in the vid what the fuck inspires females to do this? are you all just like dykes or what? i am a guy on tren right now and i would literally feel less gay fucking a feminine looking tranny than a roided up girl with giant delts and shit. the girl in the video has a good enough face, not like she needs to become a fucking manfreak to compensate for anything

>>39933297
that paper is retarded because everyone gains a fuckload of water and glycogen when starting gear, which is technically lean body mass, and goes away when you stop the gear. its not actual muscle tissue.

Roiders are triggered Bc short term gym rat pinners really do want to believe that what they did over the course of a cycle or two is "just speeding things up" a lot of the time. At the low end, they see what they accomplished as being possible natty so that's their excuse for claiming natty and crying like a little bitch when someone calls them out on it.

I'm natty, most of my friends who go to the gym are not. They'll admit their dosages and ask for help with cycles and shit from me, but claim to be a natty king to anyone else. I'm okay with it for now, since for the most part my lifts are better since I work my ass off and know what I'm doing. Once those fags hop on some extra tren though, I'll probably be jelly.

What these autist fitspo pinners don't get is that slowly but surely people will realize that those shoulder caps ain't natty and that ass is all silicone. People still gonna follow them and jerk off to all their pics tho

>>39933352
>and ask for help with cycles and shit from me
no they wont fuck off retard

>People still gonna follow them and jerk off to all their pics tho

yeah that is kind of the point?

if there is a shredded ass guy walking around do you think girls are gonna think "oh wow he must not be a strong independent natty lifter of pure virtues" or do you think they are gonna think he is fucking sexy

>>39933378
Lol

AMA about steroids. My wilks is just about 400, just turned 20, recruited by a buncha d2/d3 schools for track. I know exactly what I'm doing if I go down that road, anyone with any modicum of success in either area should be well-versed in what they should take for first/second cycle, etc. you don't think a noob who doesn't know what lab to get real test from isn't going to ask their gym bros to help out? Cmon now

>>39933378
I don't think girls are gonna care if they see a shredded guy walking around unless he's an autist with his shirt off like some fag youtuber

>>39933500
>coping

>>39933469
>burgerlifter i mean powerlifter
hello fatass

if you have a bunch of "roider friends" they are not gonna ask a natty for advice on any fucking gear, you are full of shit trying to inflate your sense of self important, fuck off.

>>39933259
>>39933260
I guess at that level, you have to trust the anecdotal evidence. Thanks

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>>39933294
Haha, you perv.

>>39933323
Honestly, I started just for fun. But once I realized I couldn't fit in any of my clothes a month later, that changed it all. I was never really pretty and as you can see being lean doesn't do my face any favors, but I literally get bigger and stronger every week. Why stop?

>>39933544
Don't be an autist...friends being 20/21, obviously they're gonna ask. Since I'm not a pos, I make damn sure they're sticking to the right PCT and not staying on cycle too long. It's not "self-importance" (nice spelling btw) when I know my shit for if/when I go more competitive and claim fake natty myself. So gtfo and don't be a little cunt

Also, not a burgerlifter. I compete in the 148 class, so more of an anorexialifter

>Girls literally changing into jacked men after roids
>Still implying it takes a lot of work

You guys are trolling right?

>>39933544
Prime example of triggered roider here OP

"Ur a natty lol u can't know about steroids that's a seeeecret only I know about"

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>>39923042

>>39933141
>>39933577
Are you cross-eyed?

>>39933577
nvm in this video it is revealed that your face looks like it has down syndrome, wtf

>>39933599
>>39933638

>hello group of roider friends, let us go ask this fat natty for advice on our steroid usage!!

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>>39933795

>fat

Just cause you're a chubby, weak little tren nugget doesn't mean you have to be an autist troll as well

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>>39933046
>not reading the thread

>>39933880
ok skinny kid with 11 inch arms, my bad? and you are saying people ask you how to roid, i suggest you stop thinking real life works like your animes. people in real life do not have severe autism like you and dont believe retarded shit like this

>>39933577
>she roided for this

>>39933880
>>39933141
kek she's bigger than him

>>39921202

why the fuck would you even want a body like that? she looks like a dude with tits

i never understood these body building women desu

>>39933880
I hope you didn't roid for this bruh

>>39933905
Ain't 11 cause I'm 5'11, not a manlet like you. Just cause I curl more than you...

There's literally zero chance that you know more than me about steroids at this point either. Give it up my little man-nugget

>>39933927
Some chicks simply get addicted to getting bigger every day just like guys do.

>>39933922
hahahahahaha

>yea guys im a fucking 110lbs gook kid!!! my friends ask me about steroids all the time!!!!

god holy shit he probably goes to anime clubs in real life

>>39933948
just stop

>>39933956
some *dykes

>>39933927
what is mental illness

>>39933880
I'm gonna save this as a reminder why people shouldn't get on roids. Vast majority of roiders don't even look like they roid lmao.

>>39933942
Like I said earlier, 5'11, natty, 415 gym wilks at 20 yrs old...competition wilks was 380-ish when I was 19. You want an example of what a moderately decent pler looks when they aren't a watery, roiding manlet? Here yalls go, I don't have shit to hide

>>39921236
It's been shown in research that you gain more muscle from taking steroids and NOT training, than a natural does from training.

>>39933971
*natty*

5'11, 148 class. And why is everyone here so obsessed with anime/traps/boipussy

>>39933982
You didn't read the paper. They just measured increased body mass, not muscle. I mean I'm not disagreeing with your overall point but that paper was deeply flawed.

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>>39933971
>>39933978
holy shit it is a literal fucking meme. a fucking LMFAO subhuman gook slave kid is 110lbs and gets on steroids and still is the size of a fucking preteen girl. LMFAO

>>39933997
fat free body mass*

>>39929347
>implying you can't make gains on a caloric deficit

You can't though, mongo.

>>39934007
Lol 3rd times the charm.

That's natty...so obviously natty that it hurts me sometimes yk

>>39933988
It was originally an anime board, "traps" were originally funny and "bridget is a girl" posts were hilarious and moot(bless his flaming little heart)would constantly say that he wished he was the little girl AND the queer mafia moved in a few years ago and tried to take shit over.
We're still reeling from the fallout.

>>39933758
A little.

>>39933795
>nvm in this video it is revealed that your face looks like it has down syndrome, wtf
I never said I was pretty.

>>39933922
Haha, my bis are just over 15'' so yeah.

>>39933957
This.

>>39934021
tell that to my trenbolone faggot

>>39934023
yeah every skinny anime watching gook kid is exploding with veins and vascularity for no reason

>>39934021
You can in certain cases.

1. Juice
2. Untrained
3. Fat

>>39921434
LMAO because different drugs don't give you different results, why are you so shallow and delusional? Who hurt you anon

>>39934039
>reason being I've qualified for raw nationals for 3 years now

>>39933978
Show us some of your lifts then!

>>39933880
Sad how literal kids these days have access to steroids. Whatever eventually they will realize they are pathetic when they see all the random dadbod natties bigger than them

>>39934068
You have a kik or something lol

My insta ain't going on here, and I sure as hell ain't putting shit on youtube

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>>39933978
post 1 fucking comp lift or BTFO for life and confirmed animu retard

>>39933577
>but I literally get bigger and stronger every week. Why stop?

Honestly, good for you.

Ripped chicks still straight nasty in my book though.

>>39933577
cute!!!!!!

>>39934118
It's a damn shame natty girls don't really care about lifting

>>39921770
Look at Arnold, Bradley Martyn, Ronnie, Lou Ferrigno, fucking any bodybuilder and look at the mass they have. Now look at a natty who has been lifting for 4+ years. Back to roider. Back to natty. Roider. Natty. Roider. Natty. Notice anything? Yeah, the difference between roider and natty is the difference between natty and DYEL sitting in his basement all day skele mode. Just look.

>>39933577
>that face

Never mind, I take it back.

>>39932988
Why is it so hard for roiders to accept that the body they have is a result of taking drugs though? I know I don't put enough work on my diet and routine, but I'm not as delusional as the other guy on this thread that thinks roids have nothing to do with developing muscle and strength

>>39934039
>tell that to my trenbolone faggot

lmao good luck in life with your low calorie cycles

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fucking kys

>>39933880
THANK YOU HUNGRY SKELETON

>>39934150
I lifted for years natty and made sure I was over 2/3/4/5 before I ever roided. I was in great shape before roids, so no, my body is not the result of taking drugs. Roids are like 10% of my physique.

>>39934094
Like I said, ya gotta have a kik or some shit. All my vids are on my iPhone and I sure as hell ain't converting them

>>39933577
>roiding to look like a saggy 50 years old woman who smokes a carton per day

What the fuck? I understand some women roiding to get hot, but why the fuck do you WANT to look like shit?

>>39933577
>tfw no cute swole gf

>>39934187
Why did you decide to take them?

>>39934226
Because I wanted more and because I wanted to try them, see what it's like.

>>39930865
>>39930831
I thought so...

>>39933920
I bet I'm bigger than you. And if I'm not, I will be very soon.

>>39934118
>Honestly, good for you
Thanks.

>Ripped chicks still straight nasty in my book though
Fair enough.

>>39934131
Thanks.

I dont care about roiders as long as it makes them happy go for it.

>>39934153
who the fuck said i do that shit. its just possible

>>39934199
BTFO FOR LIFE SKELE ANIME FAG

>>39933577
FFFFFFBBBBBBRRRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
BBBBFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFBBBBBBRRRAAAAAPPPP*

sorry anon I had too much protein its ok right? Do you want me to keep going anon?

>>39934328
Are you fucking retarded? You more or less said you did, as proof that you can gain on a caloric deficit.

Jesus I hope lifting works out for you, because you're stupid as fuck lmao.

>>39934021
>>39934039

tell that to my DYEL faggot

(legit am so weak i am making gains on a cut)

>>39934327
this desu, sometimes i like looking a little average, like a jacked Jared Leto.

simply because grills can tell i'm not consumed by insecurities and spend my life in a gym.

which is not true at all i 6 day PPL

>>39934039

>veins=roids

Are you kidding? I am fat as fuck and brand new to lifting ie dyel and I have some vascularity

it's not a fucking gaurentee someone is on gear

>>39934372
Why are you cutting in the first place, then?

You obese?

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>>39934354

Lol ok then, no vids it is. 420@134, skelly confirmed. About a yr and a half ago, I was 19. 215 bench (went 1/3) 355 squat. That's the last comp I did. 100% raw fed, so lots of piss tests and no sleeves/wraps. If u wanna jerk off to the vids, it ain't gonna be on here Bc iphone

>>39934401

not anymore

just a few bf % too fat to bulk

soon senapi

>>39934036
Oh hey thanks. Not a serious question tho, more at the fag who's like ohh shit he's Asian his life must revolve around anime!!!!!!!

>>39928588
Is this a before vs after? Christ he juiced for that?

Nah I got similar results from 3 years of lifting. Unless your goal is to get huge or your a girl who wants to beef up roids aren't worth it. Just enjoy lifting and be consistent and you'll make sick gains

>>39934247
>posting pictures of yourself to 4chan to win arguments with anonymous strangers

>>39934456
just stop spewing bullshit, bitch

>>39934534
I'm right tho, not my fault you're small.

>>39934404
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>39934581
Lets see your contest lifts and wilks then...wanna try a tested fed or don't wanna push your luck? Don't get too triggered now

>>39934616
you are dyel as fuck no one cares if you call your weak shit "contest lifts" or "wilks"

>>39934551
what every failed bodybuilder fatso says

>>39934796
You ain't shit til you've stepped on a platform or a stage. Back yourself up or you're just a fake little beta troll pinning in the bathroom and jerkin it to Jeff seid

>>39934796
Let's see pics and your lifts then at least skelle bro followed through

>>39921675
>If you want stable test levels you have to pin eod and wait for test levels to stabilize.

>tfw pinning 10mg test u eod

>>39922638
>Rich Piana super sets two 45lb Dumbbells and is done with his arms for the week
first set 4 hours long, second set 4 hours long

>>39934796
You probably can't even lift 420, you piece of shit

>>39934847
>stepping on a stage means shit when u are fucking 120lbs

>>39935177
>that's why there's weight classes

>not my fault you can't cut it in the 242 class, dyel?

Gee sorry that I put strength before pinning my ass to put on useless size and destroy my joints as early as possible!

>>39929924
explain your choice of picture.

>>39931738
why wouldn't you pin the easiest site?

>>39932988
what are his lifts?

>>39933141
are you at all afraid of losing your tits or do you not really care?

>>39935526
I didn't really have much of anything to begin with.

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>>39935210
>unironically being under 140lb
>d-do you even lift?
wew

>>39935884

>too scared to post stats
>shit copypasta b8

wew

Time for fatty to crawl back to its little troll hole where he belongs

>>39922564
thats just looks retarded

>>39921469
What's a good roider routine ?