Anyone else starting to think natty lifting is a waste of time? I'm seriously tempted to go full on YOLO Zyzz mode and start roiding.
Natty gains are ridiculously slow and hard.
how long you been lifting?
>>39722710
t. retard who's been lifting for four months
>>39722710
>fell for the roids meme
>>39722710
if your goal is to be aesthetic then yes, natty lifting is a waste of time.
sure, then I realized putting my health at risk for other people is retarded.
if 99% of girls think pic related is ripped, then roids will really only impress other guys, so roids are 4 fags.
>>39722770
>if 99% of girls think pic related is ripped
i....dont know anon
Some days women seem to think guys like Connor Murphy and Jeff Seid are DYEL and other days having abs means youre BIGGER THEN ARNOLD!!!11!one
Women seem to suffer from a massive case of "What the fuck is going on?"
>>39722801
>women think Connor and Jeff are DYEL
what fucking women do you know anon
women think Zac Efron is ripped
>>39722983
>mfw even Zac Efron isn't natty
>>39722710
Not really, you just worship a bunch of roiled out meatheads and want to be like them. Youre gonna be huge af when you roid but will be mentally weak.
>>39722983
Maybe DYEL is a bad but they dont care is the point, it doesnt register that they look good
Women swing massivly from one end of the spectrum to another with little to no warning
>>39722710
You know what else is a waste of time? [spoiler]Sauna[/spoiler]
>>39722770
>girls find a male supermodel with his shirt off ripped
Wow, wonder why
>>39722801
it's almost like
different women
have different preferences
that you think there's one singular "type" that is THE universally desired "type" among women is a big contributor to your totally clueless insight.
>>39723491
Im talking about the same girl who goes from one day being all about muscular dudes to the next being uninterested in everything male to the next being attracted to women
The last part isnt so common, ive only seen it in a few but msot girls swap preferences internally quite alot
>>39722710
It takes like a year to get the kind of body women like. Just have abs and a nice v-taper. Women don't actually care about huge muscles, only men do.
>>39723247
Fuck you.
>>39722710
Reminder that the man and the woman in OP's pic are both standing on the same surface and he only just meets her bare minimum height requirement
>>39722710
if you lift for health then no, if you lift for girls then sure, knock yourself out
>>39722983
Zac Efron is Ripped faggot