How much physically stronger are biological human men than their

> type male and female strength difference into google.

> immediately met with research papers just through google search that answer this question exactly.

eat ass gay nigga.

>>39717323
10 watts

source: wikipedia

>>39717323
That's a question with way too many variables to give a straight answer, m8. Something as simple as hormonal variances or height difference between 2 different men alone can yield different strength levels, if we're talking about leveling off near natty limit.

>>39717332
I want to see /fit/ness make a cogent argument; not overly impressed thus far.

>>39717336
So, a battery pack?

>>39717353

www.google.com

>>39717350
On average then.

www.google.com

www.google.com

>>39717359
Based on what, though? Wilks score? And are we talking average untrained strength?

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>>39717323

>>39717358
>>39717367
>>39717371

www.google.com

>>39717376
>>39717371
>>39717367
>>39717358

www.google.com

>>39717323
Women cannot naturally pack on as much muscle as a male with the same height/frame. Furthermore, women tend to have smaller frames than men of the same height. Finally, women are not able to exert as much force on maximal efforts as men with the same muscle mass

>>39717323
About 10 times stronger.

T'es levels in women go from .3 to 1 unit of "I forgot it's name, test in per ml of blood" while men go from 10 to 30 units.

Men have stronger nervous systems, quicker reflexes, and bigger muscle mass plus faster recovery. So at the same weight, men are still stronger than women.

>>39717323

I've read an article about a study which said that while there's a difference it isn't as huge with one exception: hand-power: 90% of men has stronger hands then 95% of women

>>39718780
This is obviously not true

>>39717421
Nothing says that T concentration is directly correlated with strength. I'm not saying they're not correlated, but it's not as simple as 10xT being 10xstrength

>>39718780
Straight-up BS, just watch a shitty show like Broken Skull Challenge and even physically fit women struggle with half too three quarters the weight that the men get and most women that get to the Skull Buster don't even get halfway, are normally stopped on thing like the Commando Crawl and those that finish in 'good time' set a time akin to a 'lesser' male.

>>39718882
Probably T and good genes.

>>39718780
>while there's a difference it isn't as huge

Yes it is.

>>39719623
Preach!

>>39718780
No the study noted that according to their data they found a correlation between gender and hand-strength
DON'T LIE TO ME FUCCBOI
LEARN TO READ

>>39717323
Why is the man here pictured without a beard or pubic hair.

>>39717375
remember that these are all roided-up she-beasts, so this by no means reflects the natural or average gender difference.

>>39719883
it's a simplified representation for extraterrestrials, can't make shit too complicated.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/d5xbqxi/

>>39720002
So, it is true to say that the majority of all men are stronger than the majority of all women, bar some extraordinary cases?

>>39717375
>women have to be 90 pounds heavier to be comparable to the lowest weightclass in the olympics

JUST AS STRONG

Just check leddit fit pal. Women can do just as much as men.

I just checked, there's a thread about a tiny woman firefighter filled with sjw's.

>>39720029
In grip strength at least - and probably by most other measures of strength. Then again, 'most' of the population can't run 1 mile without collapsing or squat lmao1pl8 so it's not exactly an impressive metric.

>>39719986
Imagine if they had the male pictured with a big schlong, aliens would be flocking us right now.

>>39717323
Fucking CIS scum! There are no differences! Gender is a myth!

>>39720066
>:^D The Post

10%
>mfw it wasnt 5%
+-10% for overall olympic events except weightlifting and trhowing stuff.
>source oly records
The biggest gap in male and female records is in javelin throw and it has to do with something about evolution and men using its dick has counterweight like a trebuchet.
>http://scholar.harvard.edu/ntroach/evolution-throwing
>http://www.americankinesiology.org/AcuCustom/Sitename/Documents/DocumentItem/TAP_25_EnhancingHumanPerformanceInSport_08.pdf
Cus feminist came down saying
>#throwlikeagurl #alwaysagurl

>>39717372
Wilks is specifically created to advantage females.

Would make more sense to look at turtles in either WL or PL (IPF).

>>39720127
Why are men so much stronger?

>>39720147
Because God created man in his image, while females are only a degenerated derivative of man, a half-man.

>>39720168
So hence half the strength and intellect?

>>39720174
Yes.

Men are imbued with divine nature, grace, strength and beauty, while females are in many ways a separate species.

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>pic related

>>39717421
Ten times stronger? Are you saying that if a girl pick up something with one hand weighing 10kg a man of similar training to her can pick up 100kg with one hand?

>>39717359
Average what? Average untrained? Average elite? Average advanced? Average intermediate? Average paraplegic?

>>39717421
It's not that big, it's actually about twice as strong based on the world records for men and women. Also upper body is a bigger difference than lower body.

>>39720168
> believing in intelligent design
> smarter or better than literally anyone
> pick one

>>39720640
You realize natural selection is just your version of Christfags' Holy Spirit, right?

>hey atheist how did this absurdly complex organ that is the human eye just come about via iterative mutation when most of the parts are useless/detrimental without all or most of the others?
>m-m-muh nachrul selekshun! u dond understand it!!! e-educade self shidlord!

>>39717323
twice as strong upper body (or maybe it was 75% stronger, I forgot)
50% stronger lower body

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>>39720002
pic related is me, should I just kms ?

>>39717323

well, my tranny roommate says there are no differences between men and women.

no differences at all, just genitals.

Ican't recall where I saw it but there is an interview of a woman fighter describing how overpowering her trans opponent was

>>39721133
that person is full of shit

>>39717323
>male saying hi
>female being submissive and not doing anything

what a sexist plaque

>>39721093
Holy shit please be bait.

>>39720029

Yes

even the stronger girls you see in a gym are going to be doing weight average guys start off with (upper body wise at least)

>>39720147

Men were hunting, fighting, scouting, building

women were collecting berries and tending to children

what do you think happened

the gender disparity is even worse in other primates

>>39721093

>hurr durr human eye
>muh irreducible complexity

Put your ignorance away pls.

>>39720002

>that 38 year old chad with 180 kg grip strength

>>39721482
>>39721501
I see your lack of any coherent arguments and raise you my smug assurance that you are as uneducated and emotionally attached to your beliefs as the average 6,000-year christfag.
>we'll just act like we're so shocked that someone even still thinks this, like SCIENCE totally took care of it, someone told me that haha
>appeal to well-funded majority opinion is scientific and not at all imitating the Catholics
What is this, /r/fitness?

>>39721564
Denying evolution is like denying the germ theory of disease. It's hard to try to condense years of basic education into a 2000 word post, especially when you've already made it clear that you have zero intention of listening to any arguments made or reading any links. Believe whatever wrong bullshit you want. America is filled with idiots like you, you'll have company at least.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php

>>39721564
Where exactly do you stand on the issue then? You seem to be pretty intent on criticizing both sides and not describing your position while demanding proof, as if that makes your argument in any way superior

A lot.
Source: getting out of my mommas basement

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>>39717323

According to Rip, men should be able to OHP their body weight, but women should max out at about 2/3's body weight.

In a video, he argued that women don't really have true one rep maxes. The weight they can do, they can do for many reps.

Women are pretty weak overall.

The women's Olympic hockey team regularly gets beat by high school boys.

The Williams sisters challenged a low rank tennis guy (I think he was 200) and he kicked their ass. Best part? He didn't even try. I think he went for golf and alcohol that morning, lol.

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>>39717421
10 times? What are men chimps now? Chimps are about 10 times stronger than humans. Is bubbles gonna punch a whole thru the universe? Pull a Saitama? You dumb gay. I bet you like feminine penis.

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>Be big guy
>Have strong(er) girl fetish
>Do sessions with wrestlers
>Hard to find ones strong enough to be arousing

Wish I could turn into a small twink sometimes to enjoy the full experience

>>39717323
http://www.livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/men-are-stronger-than-women-on-average/

As a woman, I fully believe women shouldn't be in combat and that it should be left to men and women should shut the fuck up about the issue. I also believe that women should NEVER pick fights with men under the assumption they won't get hit back because in this day and age a man will deck a bitches ass. I fully acknowledge that most men could pummel me into the ground at any point in time.

Tl;Dr: Men are in every way shape and form physically stronger than women and that's ok.

>>39721844
Please and i mean PLEASE acknowledge my dick

>>39721844

I think that's the funny duality of modern society. Even 50 years ago it was almost 100% accepted men were stronger, more capable, and that's why men shouldn't hit or touch women and women shouldn't pick fights with men.

Nowadays we have this idiotic, artificial sense of "well generally they're the same" on one hand, and yet maintain the "omfg you can't hit a girl" standard, even after a girl slaps or closed fist hits a dude. Even "feminists", just having their cake and eating it too. When the chips are down reality crashes back in though.

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>>39721817
>>39721817
oh god sauce please

>>39721924
Yeah, ikr. I hate feminism and shit. I'd rather cook and clean and take care of my BF while he pays the bills than go out protest like some special snowflake cunt about nipple rights and a bullshit wage gap. I'm not sure why this whole thing got started with men and women are equal when we're clearly not. Not to say women are slave material but we have strengths and weaknesses and that's fine. Sexual Dimorphism. Feminism was fine with suffrage but not all this hypocritical, contradictory shit today.

>>39721999

We had a pretty rigid system in the 50's that didn't let women participate in things even if they were capable of it. Jobs mostly, I think it was fair to say that everyone deserved an equal chance at general aspects of life (barring the military and some public sectors like police).

Once they achieved that, they turned their attention to artificially and arbitrarily forcing an equal outcome under the unfounded assertion of categorical equality across the board (as opposed to equal rights).

We know why there is a "pay gap" for instance. Far more women are stay at home moms or work part time while men are still regarded as the general breadwinners. There's nothing wrong with that, it's all a matter of personal decision, but nu Feminists want to force everyone's hand into generating a concept of a totally equal society that simply doesn't coalesce with reality. Thus they're a joke

Good to hear you can see that

>>39722041
Yup, yup, yup. We're both humans should be treated as such, but shouldn't be more privileged or more prejudiced or whatever. Just equal.

I think a lot of this shit started in the 60's and 70's with second wave feminism. The liberalness of the 60's and 70's was a direct backlash towards the super conservative 50's and late 40's of the general American public. A lot of shit regarding social norms went topsy turvy in those years.

>>39721844
>As a woman, I fully believe women shouldn't be in combat and that it should be left to men and women should shut the fuck up about the issue

This is stupid. If a woman can meet the same standards as the men, what decent reason could there be to deny her that career path? I don't think military standards should be lowered for some gender quota shit, but if a woman can hack it with the guys then she should be free to get her legs blown off and get PTSD just like men.

Frankly I'd like it if more women went into the hard, male dominated workforces. Manual labor, military, police, mining, construction, etc. They already skate through life on easy mode while men trip over themselves to make women comfy and safe. Women should pull their own weight for once in history rather than being a bunch of delicate, dependent children.

>>39720002
>That one150+ kg grip strength freak
>That one 10~ Kg grip strength beta nu-male

>>39721995
>>39721817
boob is photoshopped (look at the background)

>>39721132
try lifting some weights

>>39721133
>>39721375
>a tranny being wrong about something
surprise

>>39722163

The fact is, combat operatives, and especially special forces, are usually upper-tier men in terms of strength, mental fortitude, and endurance

How many women can match upper tier men? Almost none. I'd be willing to be there are almost no women barring physical XXY freaks of nature that can match Navy SEALs as only the top 5% of men can even make the cut (if that).

Women are weaker, women are not as mentally strong, and women have other needs that need to be addressed hygiene wise that make their combat readiness far less than ideal. Part of being a combat soldier is regularly carrying 80+ lbs. of weight every day, moving quickly, being able to drag or carry another soldier out of combat, and having minimal needs. A lot of these nuanced standards cannot be addressed in things like physical testing or general training.

On top of all of this is the subject of unit cohesion. Men are naturally competitive over women, as well as more protective. Essentially, a woman could be cancer for the mentality of a group of men. It isn't her fault, it's just nature. As we have no serious need for infantry in the modern age I think it's fair to say that we shouldn't waste resources or forego utmost efficiency in a vain pursuit to find that one exceptional woman that can at least "hang" with the rest of the men.

And they'll always reduce standards if you let them. It's happened in firefighting, police, the military, and it will inevitably happen in the military, it already has by some accounts.

I'm fine as a man being dealt the shittier card in terms of effort. We are given more strength, mental resilience, and ability than women (outside of childbirth), with that we have to be the first to bear the weight and toil of life. I wish more people would be realistic and stop chasing fantasy.

>>39720147
To fight other men.

>>39720168
Are you a muzzie?

Because you sound like one.

>>39721740
>According to Rip, men should be able to OHP their body weight
>tfw you're not a real man

>>39717375
Why aren't the weight classes the same? There is a 62kg class for men but it's 63kg for women.

>>39721740
>>39722311
can Brian Shaw OHP 420 pounds?

>>39722311
>145lb 5'7 manlet with a small frame to boot
>put up 150 max on le olde OHP

I leave out my height and weight when I say I press bw in survey threads.

>>39717375
>>39722356
a better question is, why aren't the equivalent weight classes even aligned on this shitty chart?

you also need to factor for outright athletic performance differences. In most sports strength is not as important as agility, speed, and grace. Go watch a woman's bball game.

>>39722311
I doubt Rip can OHP his bodyweight 2bh

>>39717323
my uncle says

dolyu dolyu dolyu dot gugel punto com para mirar esa wea

>>39722382
>go watch a bunch of ugly lesbians spend all their time passing the fucking ball back and forth
no

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>>39722280
I'm not talking about special forces. Even if only 10% of women can meet the standards, that 10 should be allowed to pursue that path. You're focusing on a very small portion of combat roles to justify arbitrarily keeping out qualified people. Most men can't meet special forces requirements either.

>muh hygiene

Menstration is easy to stop with modern birth control implants. Make it mandatory and their hygiene will be as much of an issue as men's.

>A lot of these nuanced standards cannot be addressed in things like physical testing or general training

Part of training is literally practicing the things you just said. If a woman can't hike with her pack then she won't make the grade. And if these couldn't be addressed in training or testing, then how can you know men can hack it? If standards and training that has been perfected over two centuries isn't sufficient for weeding out people who can't make the grade, then there is no way to keep out unqualified men either. Which makes all training and testing moot since it would fail at the one thing it's meant to do: prepare and select the best qualified.

>On top of all of this is the subject of unit cohesion. Men are naturally competitive over women, as well as more protective.

Is there any proof of this? Why hasn't the Israeli military imploded if this was even partially correct? I see this argument fielded a lot, but there's never any proof that reality matches with how you think it will happen, and examples there's hat disprove the claim. If this was true then integrated militaries would collapse.

>muh men have all the burden

You can go be a martyr for some dependasaurus if you want, but I hold women to a higher standard than delicate baby makers. I also believe in self determination as part of freedom. If a woman wants and has the ability to do something, she can and should. Just because most women can't doesn't mean the outliers should be relegated to being weak pieces of shit like other women.

>>39720147
How the fuck would we know, you stupid faggot? What kind of a dumb fucking question is that? Fuck you.

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>>39720186
>>39720168
Someone's never got pussy.

Women aren't as smart as men eh? Must be why there's Ph.D holding women in law and medical and astrophysics while you're here shitposting on a softcore gay porn board guised as a fitness board.

>>39722449
Does he mean doing it strict though or doing it like back when it was a competition?

>>39720002
Weird that it peaks at late 30s

>>39722862

I'm pretty sure he would only mean strict.

I think push press numbers amount to ego lifting.

Now, the lean back press (which many in competition were doing) could be considered ok as long as you must end the lift full vertical with the bar over head.

Personally, I've found the lean back style to be harder than even a struck press (due to the increased torque on the arm created as you straiten out).

>>39717323
>no v taper
>no quads
>0 vascularity

0/10 species would not make contact with

on average 1.2 times stronger

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>tfw female friend thinks there's no big difference in strength between men and women
>tfw she's 5'3 and you could easily kill her with your bare hands without breaking a sweat

Most women I know can't even do a single pullup, but they seem much more competitive when it comes to anything involving the posterior chain. Something about the upper body on female, particularly the back, shoulders and chest, is definitely not as strong.

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>>39722989

>>39721510
probably a fat autismo faggot that does nothing but jerk of all day

>>39723007
he's not wrong desu

>>39723016
sage because question has been sufficiently answered

>>39720186
>Men are imbued with divine nature, grace, strength and beauty
Dude u a fag, just admit it.

>>39722183
>That one 10~ Kg grip strength beta nu-male
Probably has some condition like muscle dystrophy, I imagine that even if you actively try to be weak it's hard to be that fucking low unless you're a spaz..

>>39723027
One measly sage against this mighty thread? Fucking kek.

>>39721497
>men are stronger because they were hunting, fighting, scouting, building
No, they were hunting, fighting, couting and building because they always were stronger.

>>39722361
Yes. Modern pro strongmen are the best pressers that have ever lived.

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>>39723007
Even he could do it.

>>39722459
>Make it mandatory and their hygiene will be as much of an issue as men's.
And it will also cause reddit and tumblr servers to collapse into a black-hole from all the concentrated triggering particles.

>If a woman can't hike with her pack then she won't make the grade.
If the pack is the same weight as that of guys and the standards are set to weed out the weakest third of men, then statistically no woman that isn't on high doses of anabolics will make the grade.

There is a youtube videos of a woman who petitioned to be let into a frontiline infantry unit because she was out to prove something: She ended up with rhabdo, and a host of other health problems that permanently rendered her infertile, and that was with the whole unit pitching in to help her out whenever possible.

>>39717382
Why can't women
>exert as much dude in maximal efforts as men with the same muscle mass

Do men have a better CNS or something?

>>39722896
That's when male strength peaks. Most powerlifters and strongmen are in their prime in that range.

>>39723043
So, a beta nu-male?

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>>39722896
>Weird that [male strength] peaks at late 30s
Not really, while free test starts dropping of after your twenties - it's a relatively slow process until you hit about 40 and total test actually peaks in the late 30s.

Add to that the fact that getting to your max genetic potential can take upwards of a decade and that most men get into training in their twenties.

>>39721999
>I'm not sure why this whole thing got started with men and women are equal when we're clearly not
I literally can't grasp how you people get hung up over this 'equality' thing so badly. You realize that - ignoring a group of morons that make up for about 0.1% of people - nobody, by saying men and women are equal, meant equal skills, equal physiology, etc. Men and women being equal means they are equally as much of a human and therefore deserve equal rights and equal possibilty. It was never about men and women having the same muscle mass or whatever stupid shit you want to make it.

>t-they aren't equal, men have peepee, women have vagoogoo
No fucking shit. Nobody ever denied that and it's absolutely not what equality in regards to the sexes means.

>I'd rather cook and clean and take care of my BF while he pays the bills than go out protest like some special snowflake cunt about nipple rights and a bullshit wage gap.
And other women would rather pay the bills, go out and protest about something they care about - even though it might seem senseless to you - while their BF cooks, cleans and takes care of them. To them you are the special little snowflake cunt, complaining literally about nothing.
Are they right, are you right? None. It's not of any relevance at all. You do you, they do they. Nobody gives a shit. What's your problem with different people wanting and doing different things? It doesn't impact you whatsoever.

>Anon I'm totally not like the other girls teheee
>p-pls notice me senpai
That's what this post was all about, wasn't it?

>>39723234
Well, maybe he got pinned by a crashing helicopter during his desperate struggle against the alien science bases in the antarctic and this caused him to become partially paralyzed.

>>39723293
So what's the difference between free and total test?

>>39721740
>The women's Olympic hockey team regularly gets beat by high school boys.
>The Williams sisters challenged a low rank tennis guy (I think he was 200) and he kicked their ass. Best part? He didn't even try. I think he went for golf and alcohol that morning, lol.

I would like to see source on this.

>>39723307
Free test is bioavalible for anabolic and other processes, total test is free test + all the test bound by globulin and other shit and dosen't really do shit.

However: People who are physically active can turn a higher portion of their inactive test into free test, for example by eating a diet that promotes higher levels of insulin. That's one of the reasons why strongfat is not a complete meme.

>>39721817
That looks like Robert Crumb's wet dream.

>>39723389
>for example by eating a diet that promotes higher levels of insulin
Or by simply being alpha (winning at any kind of competition, having sex with a variety of partners, being dominant in general.)

It's a positive (or negative, if you're a beta) feedback cycle of being alpha>more test>likely to become more alpha>etc. And then there's that whole thing about brain plasticity during your youth: that's why guys who failed to catch the alpha train at a young age often get left behind unless they take drastic action.

women are definitely a lot weaker than men on average, but i think a lot of it is mental as well

women expect to be weak so they don't push themselves, and they don't want to be considered masculine

This shit thread is still here, great job.

Sage as fuck.

>>39723492
>but i think a lot of it is mental as well
No. You can have the best mentality in the world and be a complete autist about diet and exercise, but even if you start at age 5 - if your genetics are shit you'll never become a top tier sprinter or bodybuilder or weightlifter. That whole "you can do anything if you try" bullshit is just one big fairytale. "Almost anyone can be great at something" is a much more realistic notion.

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>>39721740

OHP'ing bw is around the advanced mark of lifting, i reckon most people only get to novice/intermediate before they either stop, take a break or reset

reason probably being that lifting gets complicated once the noob gains stop and you actually have to put a bit more effort and research into lifting to keep progressing

>>39717323
idk to objectivly measure this you would need a male and a female of the same higth, same age, same weigth and the same body fat

>>39723302
>>39720168
>>39720186
>>39720174
So many angry virgins in this thread

>>39723537
>reason probably being that lifting gets complicated once the noob gains stop and you actually have to put a bit more effort and research into lifting to keep progressing
This, probably around 60% (excluding the dyels who have yet to hit intermediate) of most gym goers are stuck at the level where periodization and fatigue managment become critical, another 20% are on roids.

I constantly see the same faces pushing the same weight, year in year out.

>>39723129
You're just inventing things to oppose this now.

>muh anecdote

Like I figured, you have nothing.

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Men were built for combat, women weren't.

>>39724032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjwtdhpcUzw

>You're just inventing things.
>Like I figured, you have nothing.

>All the studies anons posted (which prove that the top 10% of women are equal/slightly better than the bottom 10% of men) and a first hand account from a woman that was in the discussed situation are worth less than my theorizing.
Go eat the bull cum out of your girls leg hair.

>>39720147
The major reasons are larger frames, taller and more test.
There are a few other minor things like specially enlarged bone structures, these allow better leverage and more muscle to connect and be used usefully.
Sexual selection, insert manlet/height,face,frame meme here
One last thing is social pressures to be strong, its seen in all cultures in the world as a mans duty to be strong. Failing to strong makes you a failure and open to ridicule, its why you see the 15 year old boys in the gym fucking round in the free weights section but wont see a woman there until they hit mid/early 20's and start to lose their figure

>>39723387
>women's Olympic hockey team
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/05/25/matildas-beaten-7-0-by-newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team/
>The Williams sisters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters

legit 30sec on google

>>39722459

>only 10% of women

hahahahaha, 10% of men can't make the cut

try 0.000001% of women

>practice

does not make up for your lack of physical stature and strength and objective lack of testosterone

>any proof of this

It's kind of hard to quantify or study. I'm going from personal experience and what I've heard of other industries getting integrated.

>Just because most women can't doesn't mean the outliers should be relegated to being weak pieces of shit like other women.

I say we don't waste money and resources letting women train when it is an utter net loss as almost all will fail

I'm a little more practically minded and there's essentially no net positives for the military. A military isn't the fucking boy scouts and your ideals should be left at the door for practicality and efficiency.

>>39723387
Google it; Williams sisters Karsten Braasch.

>>39717375
Bf% means women at the same weight have less muscle than men. That would account for some of the difference

>>39722280
Not a bad post but periods, really dude? It's not that hard to manage. Soldiers piss and shit themselves if they have to.

>>39724787
>t. virgin that never had girlfriend.
periods often cause anemia, weakness, cramping and generally weird behavior.

>>39723524
Yeah but if you have a shit mentality you'll always do worse than you could have, which was the original point.

>>39724787

Periods, they can get pregnant, etc it's still a hindrance and point of consideration

imagine being without enough supplies out on a march and getting your period, how fun do you think that would be for everyone involved? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's as controllable as holding a shit

>>39724811
Not every woman gets cramps and shit and they can take birth control to stop it completely
>>39724835
You are correct, it is in fact completely uncontrollable, but it's not like a torrent of blood. She'll probably just have to throw out her underwear.

>>39724891

So we're in agreement that there are other items of consideration regarding female body processes

The military wouldn't accept something like "well women are going to have to learn to deal with bloody crotches and throwing underwear out", they would have to institute a standard that addresses them specifically and that would be extra work

It's not the biggest factor but it is still a factor

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>https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/records/30-records/277-mens-outdoor-high-school-records
>https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/records/30-records/278-womens-outdoor-world-records

Track and field. Individual competition, no bs. Women's all time world records compared with boys high school records from just the US. Boys win every category across the board.

>100m
10.00s vs 10.49s
>4x100m
39.76s vs 40.82s
>high jump
2.31m vs 2.09m

The physical pinnacle, absolute finest specimen, fully grown, trained, and developed woman from anywhere in the world is physically inferior to a high school boy.

>>39725015

This is the kind of shit you show to the "but what about muh exceptional women" crowd

Your exceptional woman is merely an above average man

>>39725015
A high school boy ran the 100m in 10 seconds flat? I'm skeptical.

>>39717421
also retard strength makes you ten times stronger, and chimps are ten times stronger than human males so retarded chimps are 1000 times stronger than human females
we should use them for energy

>>39724163
>muh youtube

Like I said, nothing.

>>39724527
What a convenient stat. Post some sources to back up your bullshit claims about no women making the cut and women ruining unit cohesiveness. I'll wait.

>>39724811
>>39724835
Birth control solves menstration and pregnancy concerns. Both are a none issue. You assblasted right cucks are seriously reaching to try to prop up this stupid machismo fantasy of yours.

>>39725036
And? An above average man will do just fine in combat roles, hence why people say to let women join if they can hack it.

>>39722615
>Chinese people are short
>that's not true I know a Chinese basketball player

>>39725265
>muh youtube
>Attack the medium and not the substance.

>Like I said, nothing.
You still got to adress that womans account, the dozen studies posted itt+

>You assblasted right cucks
I'm literally a Muslim commie, from a lineage including anarchists (the kind with bombs, not shitty dreads) and anti-nazi guerillas.

>are seriously reaching
Yeah, studies and first hand accounts, that's so much less substantial than your opinion.

>prop up this stupid machismo fantasy of yours.
What fantasy? That men are far stronger than women? That the most elite of female athletes is on part in physical ability with an amateur male? That accepting women into front-line service would seriously hamper effectiveness and drive up costs? That the ability to exert physical force matters in our physical universe? That you can't change your biological make-up by wishing really hard?

>>39722896
Dad strength is a real thing
My dad is a cardio skeleton and shocked me by benching 2plate the first time he went to the gym

>>39725392
Seems this way to me too, my dad isn't that big and as far as I know he never played any real sports either, but he has ludicrous hand strength

>>39725272

Because exceptions are extremely rare, and it's rarer that said exception would be looking to do it in the first place, thus a waste of time and resources to let all of the bitches who grew up watching girl power movies go through recruitment and training only to predictably fail

furthermore, we always end up with the situation where assholes decide the standards must be changed to accommodate the fact that women aren't making it

why open this big shitty can of worms? the military isn't about letting everyone chase their dreams of killing people and being a hero, it's about combat effectiveness

You may as well open up recruitment to 14 year old boys as well right

Muscle is muscle, women have on average about 1/2 of the amount of upper body muscle as men, and about 3/4 the lower body muscle.
They have more fat at the same weight.
They have lower blood hameatocrit

>>39717323
male deadlift record 461kg
female deadlift record 312kg

its a pretty big difference

>>39722989
i hate this shit

>>39725535
Eddie Hall set the deadlift record at 500kgs this summer mate

>>39720002
This is what we get for masturbating daily.

>>39725577
I doubt it was at a powerlifting event with powerlifting gear

In strongmen they use different shaped plates, and different bars. They are also allowed to use straps. Which is why all the lifts close to 500kg is done in strongman competitions

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>>39717323
On average ( ie - average 70 kg men vs average 50kg women - not american average ) women pack about half of muscle mass as men do and it is distributed differently.

In non-roided averages of fit individuals you can expect women to top out at 1/3rd to 1/2 of what men can do.

When it comes to power for that dere cardio, women are also about half of men.

strstd.com has charts for men and women. Pic related are charts for functional threshold power in cycling for men and women.

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>>39717375
Tried to make it match up a little better

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>>39717323
>mfw the australian women's soccer team lost 7-0 to an under 15 boys regional rep team

>>39720168
Actually the first woman, Lilith, was made from the same clay as Adam.

what do you do if you're in a fight and a woman grabs you by the balls?

>>39726773
the same as for a guy:
>punch them
unless she's some kind of mutant she is in perfect reach as long as she holds on, a shattered solar plexus will make anyone lose their grip.

alternately:
>grab the wrist and break it.

>>39720508
Average of literally every single human that is both male and female, what part do you not understand?

>>39726749
>being this jewish

>>39717323
https://lmgtfy.com/

>>39726773
grab her by the pussy

>>39726749
Maybe she can bench 2pl8 unlike all the other women.

>>39723304
VIGILO CONFIDO

>>39726773
Moan softly

>>39728644
It's all good, now he's probably in line for a sweet MEC suit.
>dem cyborg gains.

>>39724891
>they can take birth control to stop it completely
Holy shit man, you really are a virgin

>>39722311
Rippletits is a faggot
He probably can't even OHP 1pl8

>>39723537
>you actually have to put a bit more effort and research into lifting to keep progressing

How exactly?
I'm a DYEL and want to improve my OHP, but it progresses pretty slowly

>>39729526
Read the fucking sticky (god forbid anyone ever did that) or use google, "programming beyond the novice stage" should give a couple relevant hits.

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>>39720197

>>39724464

lmao the Williams sisters got BTFO hard

>>39725015

kek, women are pathetic

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>>39720057
>abduct that dick

>>39723293
I'm 28, is it too late for me to start lifting? :( please tell me there is even slightest hope

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But there's no difference between men and women OP

>>39722449
>tfw only training bench and curls cuz no squat rack yet
me and my uncle is ordering a powercage after new years so it's all good. atleast i've trained my bp until then instead of being a couch potato.

>>39725048
It's possible. I had a friend back in school who ran 60m just above 7 sec.

>>39723467
>It's a positive (or negative, if you're a beta) feedback cycle

So betas maintain their T-levels no matter what, fun.

>>39728697
underrated post

>>39722459
>Why hasn't the Israeli military imploded if this was even partially correct?
The very few integrated units of the IDF have. Most frontline units are men only. The integrated ones are for show.

>>39722163
Here is why women shouldn't even be considered for combat positions. We have to start from a position of fantasy because even the women that passed the Ranger school had the training difficultly lowered. Lets say that only 10% of the male applicants make it through training and only 1% of female applicants make it through. So it will cost 10X's more to get a women in a combat role. So having women in combat roles is a wasteful spending of tax dollars when only letting men into the job is getting a better return on investment. The military isn't hurting for people it has gone through a few force shaping while I have been in and unless it was war where we had to send women to the front lines we shouldn't even entertain the idea while at relative peace.