when did you realize changing your physical appearence wont change

what do you want from life then?

to get a gf? to not be fat?

>>39689223

Pick up a new hobby.

Lift to get confidence to get girls.

Don't lift to get girls to get confidence.

I started lifting in 2012, wasn't fat, but was a NEET.

Now I'm lean and muscular after 4+ years lifting, going on 5 years soon.

Still have pretty much zero self esteem because I haven't achieved the stuff that society values and respects (at my age: 29).

I'm still in school, trying hard to get a degree. Feel like I'm only just getting through. Still a KV, still no friends, still have depressive thoughts and feelings of retreatism on a daily basis.

I feel like lifting hasn't really done much for me besides make me feel better about my body, but at my age (29) nobody even really give a shit about your body anymore, it's all about money, jobs, house, car, etc, none of which I have.

still a massive improvement

>dieting since august
>was depressed so had huge neckbeard
>decided to get a haircut last week
>as of yesterday down 10kgs
feels good, 10ish more kgs to go lads

>>39689223
Learn how to talk to people you sperg. Literally all it takes is mirroring and social awareness

>>39689242
regardless of what age you are, having a nice body is a good thing. just dont make it the ONLY thing. because being in shape makes you the top 1% of people your age.

>>39689242
Be honest, do you have an ugly face or something?

I went from a 300 lb lossless virgin wow nerd to fit and people flock to me endlessly, I feel autistic because I actually want to go spend time in my room playing wow to not be bugged so often. Not even trying to humble brag either, genuinely asking if there's something deterring people from talking to you.

>>39689269
He might have resting bitch face, I know I have it. I try to have a neutral face, but my frown or whatever just beats it and I end up forgetting to fix it when it does.

>>39689223
FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT

It's not that fucking hard. You fake it hard and slowly reveal your true self over weeks and if she doesn't mind the flaws, or even appreciates them then there you go.

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>>39689355
Revealing my true self to someone that isn't my family is the scariest thing I could ever imagine.

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>tfw lifting doesn't fix your face

>>39689223
Lol youre probably ugly m8

>>39689355
My true self is a god damn loser so no thanks.

>>39689223
i dont care about people losing their jobs or their parents dieing in a car crash

but i do feel compassionate about people who are depressed and sit alone every day of their life like me because i never want someone to live a life like i do