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reddit r steroids wiki for basic questions and 1st cycle advice

no source talk

before asking for noob advice post the following:

>age
>time spent lifting
>body fat %


Edition: glands in face fixing his shit edition

Previously on SAW III general:

>>39610882
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reeeeeminder
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>>39617904
can't wait for you to go see a specialist tomorrow and be told that he doesn't know what the fuck it is

glands in your face until the end of time
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>>39617904
also i ate probably 800-900 cals of junk food + a cup of juice and still feel light headed

fuck you goblins, trying to make me thicc again after dnp
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>>39617878
Been taking mk677 for 4-5 months, and from what I understand it isn't going to be doing too much on its own. What should I take in conjunction with it?
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>>39617934

>still feel lightheaded

Without it you wouldn't feel lightheaded now you would in far worse shape.

>fuck you gains goblins making me get chemo my cancer isn't 100% gone
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>>39617955
true true i feel better and not really like fucking passing out. still feel shitty though.

apparently donating blood gets rid of 650 calories though, so maybe i won't get too morbidly obese from eating like shit for one day.
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>>39617934
just rest, eat like you would any other day, drink lots of water but not more than usual, you'll be fine
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apparently im hyper sensitive to progesterone gyno, last time I ran tren and got gyno (reversed it with letro) i thought was cause i was very irregular with my AI.

now im running 100test / 250tren a week while on 40mg ralox and my nips are becoming sensitive to touch and small lumps forming
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>>39617992

>apparently donating blood gets rid of 650 calories though, so maybe i won't get too morbidly obese from eating like shit for one day.

Granted I am very strict with diet as well but one day of eating crap because you medically had to do so to stay alive is not going to kill you dude
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>>39617904
DELET THIS
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>>39617878
Good job on the OP.

>>39617935
Dose? Don't you feel good?

I wasn't really expecting much out of it in terms of physical changes/effects. But I love how deeply I sleep and improved appetite.

>pic related is how i feel when I take MemeK at night

Will be on TRT within a week so that'll be what I'm counting on for physical changes.
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>>39616894
Why are you bleeding yourself? Hematocrit too high?

My BP is high as shit right now, attempting to lower it by any means possible. I am doing a double red bloodcell donation tomorrow.
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>>39617997
>reversed prolactin gyno with letro
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>>39618101
have to go to a doctor soon and get blood drawn, dont want them to see signs of roid use in my fucked up RBC and hematocrit.

do you think removing ~18oz of blood is enough to get my rbc and hematocrit back down into range? i dont know how elevated it was beforehand
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>>39618158
It will probably be too low
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>>39618176
yeah but no one is going to say im on gear because my rbc is too low
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hi guys, how you doing?
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>>39618094
I take 15mg every morning. I feel like I should be taking twice that. Also I lift at night, should I take it at a different time too?
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>>39618201
i need blood help

>>39617904
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>>39618197
She may order more tests if it's weirdly low
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Sort of a noob question, but sort of not. Obviously if you want the info I'll give it anyways.

>28
>4 months now, but 3 years prior
>18%

I lifted for years before having a massive leg injury(broke the femur in about 15 spots). I basically had to do nothing for about 6 months while dicking about recovering, and then dicked about for another year or so before trying to get back into the gym. I have lost an insane amount of strength, and I'm trying to get it back.

What I'm curious about is I know that new lifters should never use gear because they will fuck up tendons because they haven't developed. Can that atrophy or weaken as well, and if so would it still be ok to do a single cycle to catch back up. I have no desire to life in roid town permanently, but I can't stand how much strength I lost.
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>>39618245
>she

as if
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>>39618282
go ahead if you want, don't go ahead if you don't want to.

it's your choice on the end, being on gear is fucking great

also

>cycling
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>>39618296
Idk why I thought you said it was grill
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>>39618308

Well I want to, but I obviously don't want to just rip my bicep off or whatever. As demonized as AAS are, I know that tendon issues are actually a legitimate problem. I didn't know if anyone knew about disuse and them becoming weak or if it was like "you work them and then they are good for a long time."
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>>39618282
The tendon thing is just a meme, bpc and a bit of gh will sort out any shit you might run into
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>>39618324

I know GH, but what's BPC?
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>>39618344
bpc 157

peptide
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>>39618344
Bpc 157 upregulates GH receptors in tendons, I think they roughly double, so running them together can help you avoid the cost and sides of gh while still strengthening tendons on cycle
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>>39618137
i have no idea why else I would get gyno from tren though, I can do 500mg test without AI no problem but 250mg tren on 4th week is giving me gyno, my nips arent lactating either
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if i was just on accutane for 6 months at 80 mg per day, will i have any acne problems normally associated with running test? i have extra that id be willing to use on cycle, but if its pointless id rather not.
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>>39618569
my acne went away forever even with gear use from running 20mg for 3-4 months

lol
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tfw down 15lbs in a week from dnp +keto
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>>39618717
dnp in the winter is fucking god tier

pic unrelated
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>>39618741
>tfw driving around with the windows down when it cold enough to snow
i was freezing a week ago when the temp was 10 degrees higher and not on dnp.
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Can i safely work out today even if i am still feeling light headed and shit?
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>>39618842
No
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>>39618842
do you even work out at all anymore
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>>39618853
just been maintaining and not giving a fuck so only full body twice-three times a week at maintenance or slightly below maintenance calories

never got full again after dnp since im still starving to death

don't want to touch a surplus calorie if i'm not on gear (only on a 100mg cruise right now)
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>>39617904
did you make this
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>>39618923
yes

when the blood went from dripping to squirting was when i was clenching my fist. when i did that it would just squirt out like fuck.
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>>39618923


>>39614650

also
>tfw i am starving myself for the rest of the day to stay at maintenance after eating all that fucking junk

ree
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>>39618810
Milksteak over hard with a side of your finest jellybeans

Raw
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>>39618851
>Slept with girls who said afterwards "yeah, sure i got chlamydia, but you didn't ask before so i assumed you didn't care" which isn't...cool

Jerr you're fucking right girls are scary
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>>39618984
Why the fuck didn't you just donate blood you sperg
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>>39619035
cuz i didn't feel like going through the extreme hassle, plus it's fun doing shit like this myself
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>>39617904
hey i was the guy wondering about blood tests for the paramedic job. Could you help me out?
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>>39618984
damn, that's hardcore.
never leave us glands fag, even when the glands get so swollen and cancer you in the hospital, continue shitposting.

that is a one up to when trendick did it in the shower.
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>>39619085
Wtf. It's literally more of a hassle to bleed yourself.

Did you do this at your parents place? Looks like you made a damn mess
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>>39619196
there were a few drops of blood on the floor of my room, that's it. just wiped it up. i'm careful with whatever i do

>>39619153
yeah sure with what

>>39619167
fuaaaaaark
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>finished ~12 week's worth of work in a day
>gotta eat though

better living through chemistry

how does one eat on adderall
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>tfw blood pressure is 160/100
>Still not doing cardio
>Not going into cruise
>Not gonna take meds

Do your worst IDGAF
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>>39619547
i wouldn't stop blasting either but i wouldnt be a lazy obeast and do some fucking cardio

honestly u are probably gonna have high BP anyway from being obeast
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>>39619553
Fucking skelly manlets think they can talk shit.

M8 I'll smother your shit with my sweaty folds while I beat up your little prostate
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>>39619025
I told you

>>39619547
Thats dumb
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>>39619594
I thought having a big heart was a good thing?

I'll probably do something about it soon enough Im starting to get headaches when I lay down. I'm just stubborn and lazy.

>Source on that image pls
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>>39619594
Sup dewd?
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>>39617904
goddamn nan you sure are popular
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>>39619737
that looks disgusting damn, almost as big a hip ratio as half the faggots in cbt threads
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>>39619737
I did some bw squats yesterday and my leg hurts today lol
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>>39619778
>that looks disgusting damn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p23mA2VV0A
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>>39619778
>that looks disgusting
Post a girl you think is a 10
>>39619805
Lmao cmon breh. Legs feed the wolf! I emailed you a pic.
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>>39619737
clean that filthy ass room, rightnow
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If I start my 15 year old son on AAS, would he die?
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>>39619844
Fug dat. That's what Mexicans are for.
>>39619860
Ya definitely but not before he roid rage murdered you in your sleep.
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>>39619875
so it's a win/win then
sweet.
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How to tell if suppressed? Does suppression naturally go away over time?
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>>39617997

Ralox on tren is a no go bud. Control AI, use prami or caber.
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>>39619882
Why don't you lead by example and get huge and teach your son.
>>39619897
Bloodwork
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>>39617878
24
3 years lifting with strict diet
Currently 15% bf bulking up from 9%

Thinking about ez lyfe joocin
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>>39619923
i have 10% bf and thinking about starting gear soon
but my son watches anime and eats Cheetos
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>>39619934
200mg test e/week
400mg tren e/week
50mg mk677/day
>>39619958
>my son watches anime and eats Cheetos
What do you do? Clearly you are doing a shit job of leading by example if you are actually in that good of shape.
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>>39619934
Goals for working out?
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>>39619972
he lives with his mother primarily, she doesn't care about anything but herself
I see him on weekends but between my work and his obsessions I don't have much time
feels bad, i failed as a dad.

I try to show him that eating healthy and exercising is a good thing but he doesn't listen to me anymore because his mommy said it was okay
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>>39620006
kill her
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>>39620006
>I try to show him that eating healthy and exercising is a good thing but he doesn't listen to me anymore
You need to get him into girls. Teach him good diet. Make dank grass fed ribeye steak and fresh green beans with garlic and almonds when he comes over. Teach him about good food that is also healthy. If you can get him to lift for 6 months then maybe put him on gear but I probably wouldn't.
>>39620012
Fucking lying skanks right?
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>>39619934
Do it

Better experience than most newbies who roid

If you know how to change your diet to add/lose weight (and have the willpower to stick with it) you're way ahead of the gain

>>39618209
I've always read about people taking at least 25mg (Cap takes 50mg) before bed

Ask cap about the timing thing, he's the resident expert

IIRC there's something about GH being secreted more while you sleep, but I dose at night because it's so great for sleep. I feel so well rested when I wake up now. I don't think it aids my recovery as far as I can tell, but going from low T shitty sleep to this is great.

Jumped on gear after having taken MK for a while so it's not the gear that's the reason I'm sleeping better (though I'm sure it doesn't help)

>>39618282
Just stay safe, don't push yourself beyond a reasonable pace

I think the tendon meme comes from people feeling like they have super human strength and then adding insane amounts of weights to their lift (i.e., reckless programming)

>>39618682
>20mg for 3-4 months

Is this less than the usual dose?
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>>39620023
the gear thing was a joke, didn't expect serious answers. I've been considering it for myself but until hes 25 i wouldn't start him on it
the food/girls thing is an idea I hadn't considered though
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>>39620006
Maybe try not being supportive?

Like act all disdainful and shit. Make him work for your affection. Don't go overboard obviously, but don't be a pushover about it. You've tried the carrot so it's time for the stick.

My Dad always was "proud of you son" even though I was a total peice of shit as a kid. Im really lucky I managed to spontaneously grow the fuck up later on cause no one was pushing me to.

Iunno Im not a parent but I feel like you're just acting as a second mother if all you do is verbally encourage him to do better.
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>>39620026
Lmao I forgot about that Indian guy. What a great pic.
The reason I dose before bed is because you want the gh during sleep/recovery but honestly the main reason is so I don't binge eat. I dose literally minutes before laying down. Even then I sometimes have to get up and eat some turkey lunch meat or something because I am ravenous and can't sleep lol.
>>39620038
Healthy fats are critical to not being a beta nu male cuck. Diet is and always will be 80% or more of the equation.
You pump his cucked ass full of red meat, monounsaturated fats, green veggies, and some heavy ass squats and he will grow a pair real quick.
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>>39620026
>>Is this less than the usual dose?
its pretty much considered the minimum effective dose
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>>39620073
>Healthy fats
>monounsaturated

you know everything except trans/saturated fat is perfectly fine, right?
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>>39620060
he will stop visiting if I do that. it's not court mandated, he does it because mommy needs a break and i still care for my son
>>39620073
makes sense.

didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/
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>>39620090
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4tHwulH5no
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>>39620091
>didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/
Then why did you ask? We do it all here breh.
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>>39620108
I asked for roid advice as a joke. that said, I do appreciate it
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>>39620091
>didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/
we dont fuck around when it comes to familia

maga

>>39620108
polyunsaturated is still plenty easy to digest compared to saturated, yet you advocate the consumption of red meat

i guess if the aim is to persuade his tubby son into eating better beef is fine, but its no miracle food by any means
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>>39620091
Wow you're such a fucking pushover. You're his fucking father. You have to have a fucking nutsack or your son is going to be a peice of shit. I know I said my dad was always supportive, but that's mostly because I didn't do sketchy shit and just did school and video games. He would've had my ass if I was acting like a real faggot.

Should have got it court mandated when you had the chance. Now you.have almost zero parental power.

Enjoy your numale faggot of a son, it's basically your fault. Really hope this is a bored troll or something.
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>>39619441

You don't. Murders appetite. Similar to cocaine.

I was underweight as a kid until I got off it then I balooned and got skinny fat
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>>39620122
>Wow you're such a fucking pushover. You're his fucking father. You have to have a fucking nutsack or your son is going to be a peice of shit.
this and

>Enjoy your numale faggot of a son, it's basically your fault. Really hope this is a bored troll or something.
this
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>>39620073
>Lmao I forgot about that Indian guy. What a great pic.
This campaign was one of the wildest rides I've had the pleasure of being on

>so I don't binge eat
I do it after gym before bed so I DO binge eat. has always been hard for me to put food down so this helps a lot (ghrelin memetic and all)

I eat until I'm stuffed on 25mg, can't imagine what it's like @50

Do you notice any physical changes or anything from it? I haven't gotten water retention or anything like I've read online. Have had many variables to boost T lately so I'm not sure if it's directly contributing to gains

>>39620038
>food/girls thing

This is actually a pretty ingenious idea. With overbearing mothers some times guys are very hesitant to act masculine because they see that their mother is very averse to this stuff.

Speaking as someone who had that situation, fix it, quick! I know it is hard to impose your will while he's not living with you but try to make an effort. You matter more to him than he will ever let on. It is a thankless job being a male role model but doesn't mean you should give up at it.

Personally, I think the window in which masculine ideals and behavior patterns can be imprinted on a young mind is surprisingly narrow.

I 2nd whoever said to get big yourself to set an example.
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>>39620120
>polyunsaturated is still plenty easy to digest compared to saturated, yet you advocate the consumption of red meat
>i guess if the aim is to persuade his tubby son into eating better beef is fine, but its no miracle food by any means
First off beef is fucking delicious. You want some polyunsaturated fats but mostly mono.
An ideal diet imho would be maybe some grass fed ribeye beef and broccoli stir fry in coconut oil twice a week and lean meat the rest of the week. Totally making that up but it instinctively feels good to me personally.
>>39620122
Or we can try to help instead of shitting on our neighbors.
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>>39620145
helping a bro =/= helping a pussy ass bitch

you cant turn a pussy ass bitch into a man (except with tren, lel), you just let him know his fucking place

or inject his ass with tren
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>>39620169
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>>39620144
>This campaign was one of the wildest rides I've had the pleasure of being on
Lol dude so much fun. I don't think I will ever experience something like this again. I love my country from the bottom of my heart and I honestly could not be happier. I cannot wait for American exceptionalism to shine brighter than ever before.
>I do it after gym before bed so I DO binge eat.
Ya and this is great for "hardgainers" and whatever. The hunger is a good or bad thing depending on you and your goals lol.
>Do you notice any physical changes or anything from it? I haven't gotten water retention or anything like I've read online. Have had many variables to boost T lately so I'm not sure if it's directly contributing to gains
No water retention or anything. I love this stuff. Keeps me leanish and constantly feeling good. Also crushes hang overs and most drug abuse like nothing else.
>>39620169
So certain people don't deserve help?
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>>39620145
He needs to hear this. You're not going to fix some lazy shithead by feeding him steak on Saturdays.

I'm not telling the man to act like a dick and beat his son or something. But to nut the fuck up and lay shit out.

Son you're fucking your health over acting like this. Your bones will be soft, you'll act like a fucking girl as your testosterone levels drop, and you'll just keep getting fatter unless you fix your shit. I'm your father and I love you, but you're destroying yourself and I won't support it.


Paraphrased
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how does dosing in syringes actually work in regards to accuracy?

there are marks every 0.2ml on my syringes (BD brand), but the 0.0 mark starts a couple of milometers above the bottom of the syringe. how does that even make sense?
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>>39620208
Probably accounting for the curve of the plunger
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>>39620198
>>So certain people don't deserve help?
no one "deserves" shit.

it's just that in this case while you may want to "help" you can't change him, he is inherently and always will be a cuckold.
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>>39620212
i thought that too but i have to draw it back a fairly significant amount to reach the 0 mark, then i saw jerry posting about how on average syringes overdraw by like 22% or something.
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I bought a bag of donuts to eat post workout. These carbs are getting mad problematic.
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>>39620206
I just give general advice because I don't know the guy or his son. I have no idea what the root of his problem is but he mentioned the kid eats a ton of Cheetos. He needs less Cheetos and more quailty protein. There is no debate on this. Also I'm SURE the quality of fat he intakes is AWFUL.
No feeding his son right is not gonna magically make him a CHAD but it's a step in the right direction.
>>39620215
People can always change. They sometimes need guidance.
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>>39620234
I didn't eat the carrot cake yesterday. Not really craving carbs anymore. 9 days no carbs now? Feeling good and adapted.
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>>39620234
Slin+hgh when

Ive always wanted to try it just cause but hgh is so fucking expensive and annoying to run
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>>39620198
>I cannot wait for American exceptionalism to shine brighter than ever before.

This is already happening, imho - as soon as Trump was elected. People are unashamed to speak there mind a bit more I've found. And when Trump says that America's open for business, I feel like his creating a favorable business environment is going to spark a new wave of big dreams and ambitious undertaking.

People never really understood that embracing American exceptionalism was what he meant by making America great again.

We had previously allowed ourselves to feel ashamed of who we are, pussified in the shadow of the overbearing PC-mother (embodied by Shillary)

I think another more global change that Trump's ascension will spark is the fire of nationalism spreading in other countries. This will only be a good thing for all of the peoples and cultures of the world.

>tfw you realize that Trump was actually the one who cared the most about minorities and celebrating diversity

God bless this awesome country

M A G A
A
G
A
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>>39620254
hey dude what's your email? I tried sending you one but I think it may have changed since last time we had a chat.
After new years I'm going to come in to a much better financial situation and it's time to start planning for a big stock up.
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I'm going out of town for a week and will miss two pins. Can I fill two syringes up with 1ml each and keep them in one of my bags to use on Monday and Thursday? Or would there be a possibility of infection.
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>>39620267
>I feel like his creating a favorable business environment is going to spark a new wave of big dreams and ambitious undertaking.
It WILL happen but it's up to the capitalists to strike. They will. I sure am trying. It's just a matter of patience and planning until inauguration.
>>39620281
Sup dude? =) I got your email. Sorry for not responding sooner. Tomorrow when I am sober and focused on work we will talk. I hope all is well with you!
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>>39620267
While I'm glad that the lizardlady didn't win, I really haven't seen much of a change at all, and desu I doubt there will be much of one even as time goes on.

Id be glad if Im proven wrong I just think there's too much momentum in the wrong direction. I mean for fucks sake the debt is what, almost 20T and the Fed is still pushing out money with 0% interest? Really don't see how that's gonna be fixed without a giant recession. Gotta drain the swamp, which we haven't done in far too long.
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cant sleep

too excited about going to the specialist tomorrow

help

this is almost as exciting as the first time i pinned gear. maybe it will be more so when the time actually comes to step into the office

help
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>>39620281
>>>>>more manlets asking for capitalists email

are you not obese yet MG? havent seen u in ages
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>>39620301
>I really haven't seen much of a change at all
Breh...
He's not even president yet and he has already saved Carrier a/c from leaving and gotten a multinational Asian investment firm to invest 50 BILLION dollars into American electronics manufacturing among many other things.
Patience my friend.
We have barely begun...
>>39620303
>>39620308
Honestly I'm glad you are finally getting help.
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>>39620341
Fingers crossed friend.
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>>39620301
>too much momentum in the wrong direction
I'm with you there, but it's something we have to keep in mind when the changes seem incremental or hard to detect

I think a recession is definitely going to be necessary. We will also probably see the cost of goods/services go up if we have the sort of mercantilist tariffs that are needed to enrich the US

Part of why the debt has gone to such ridiculous levels is the petrodollar monetary paradigm. Protecting this has gotten us into all sorts of bullshit in the middle east that we were way better off without.

I think one of the keys to understanding Trump's vision for america is his energy policy. It may seem like a step backwards to some, but we really need to avoid making ourselves dependent on these savage Muslim nations whose interests will never be aligned with our own in a meaningful way. It forces these strange bedfellows into the spheres of our influence, to horrible ends.

I think your doubts are well founded, but I think we also have a lot of reason to be hopeful now that he's going to be in charge :)

Definitely dodged a bullet when Hillary lost
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>>39620346
Don't cross your fingers.
MAKE the future happen as you see fit!
Now is the time to strike!
The societal energy is present. Work hard and ride the wave.
We can only MAGA with YOUR help!
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>>39620377
I make America great by being a good.person in general, and not taking advantage of anyone just because I can.

That's basically all Im willing to bring to the potluck.

>>39620372
You seem more informed than I am, so it's nice to see that you seem hopeful. Like I said, I hope Im wrong, but I feel like the forest has too many dead logs and shit needs a few fires to clear things out. And I mean on a societal level not just economically. I'm starting to think that culturally, because of the lack of scarcity, we're switching from k-selection behavior and personalities (close family structure, saving resources, monogamy, etc) to a r-selection favored society (lots of kids, no real need for provider father, excessive amounts of resources means bad spending and life decisions aren't gonna prevent you from having lots of offspring)

And that's scary to me because I personally value k-selection behavior traits.

>Pic related is a result of r-selection
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>>39620443
What the fuck has happened to her leg??
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>>39620471
She got fucked by a rhino
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>>39620471
R-selection can't you read?
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>>39617878
Real men don't use -- or need -- steroids. Only genetically inferior insecure manlets do.

***************

ANONS OF /fit/:
Help make the world a better place for everyone by participating in the 4chan 'Roider Catch-and-Release Program', new for 2017! Steroid users are humanely trapped, sedated, and sterilized, then released back into the wild, preventing propagation of their dangerous genetic defects. It's better for them, it's better for us, it's better for the planet! Donations gladly accepted and are tax deductible!
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>>39620471
Trashy whore got infected from shitty silicone injections that she got in order to win a whore competition.

Literally called Ms. Bumbum competition/pagaent. Brasil is basically monkeytown.
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>>39620488
Ever notice how roiders are never salty that people choose to stay natty, but natties are forever salt and can't help but bitch about it?
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>>39620503
Roiders routinely make fun of Natties for being natty. "Natty lifting is a meme."

It's whatever. People can do as they wish.
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>>39620503
That's because we aren't cheating fraudulent defective manlets injecting shit for stupid reasons, therefore we're deserving of people's respect, whereas you're scum and deserve all the ridicule and hate you get.
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Guys what's the fuck am I on


Bought some test enth from a shady gym bro
Injected it Monday
Didn't feel any pain
Yesterday and today my lifts are through the roof, sex drive is fucking nuts, I feel like fucking Thor
Veiny and pumped up all day
Is this placebo? Is this just the beginning of more to come? Is my shit mixed with anything??
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>>39620518

I think you could be on test maybe?
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>>39620443
>I make America great by being a good.person in general
Always strive to be the best version of yourself. MAGA!
>>39620471
Synthol
>>39620503
;)
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>>39620298
Ah okay no worries duder, looking forward to it.
Even the missus is getting right in to looking at peptides and stuff.
Some of the shit for memory and focus could be really useful for studying etc.

>>39620308
Nah not fat yet.
Dropped down to 83Kg
Currently size XL shirt, 36 pants are the only thing that fits now kek, quads are skin tight in 34
Need to bulk a bit more, probably with tren so I can get that lean mass high enough to do a good cut and really look good.


Oh and the scars are flat now, next is treating the redness and that only takes a couple weeks.
So I'm on track now
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>>39620503

>all natties are salty that people use roids.

No. Not at all.

Only natties that are insecure with themselves and cannot get attention from women.

Here's the though process, I'll screen cap since we do this LITERALLY every night at 3 am when this guy comes in like clockwork and I can just cntrl v it next time @ him.

>REEE I CANT GET ATTENTION FROM WOMEN
>THOSE ROID GUYS POST ABOUT GIRLS ALL THE TIME!
>If I took roids I will be swole and get attention from women!
>But I can't take steroids because mommy would kick me out of the basement and I have no job!
>REEE
>better go attack them for using AAS!

He knows deep down I'm 100% right.

This shit is so sad. So many fucking logical fallacies and insecurities any physch would have a field day with this guy. Real real problems.

He thinks he needs a roided physique to get girls. Little does he know, even with AAS use, he would never achieve it because he would have to lift with intensity and eat properly. He can't even manage that.

Beyond that he thinks just having a roided phsyique would save him. He would still be unemployed, ugly, insecure as hell, and reek of virginity.

Buddy, it's a lost cause.

Also, sorry for posting with trip. Know I said I would leave it off until I was SHREDDED and then return with it and rub it in anon's face that said I would be dyel forever.

I just want this fucking imbecile to know the guy that BTFO him so hard and 100% described his situation and life is a natty

Maybe the message will sink in.
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>>39620552
>not fat
>no abs
>love handles
>wears size 36 pants

>>>>not fat
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>>39620554
Literally no one cares about your opinion. You're a fucking retard.
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>>39620591
except he is right
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>>39620591

Pretty defensive, hit the nail on the head?

Aw shucks.
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>>39620552
>peptides and stuff
Chinaman just brought me some presents to be sent off for testing =P
>>39620588
Wow abs and everything are really poping. The carbs filled you out a lot.
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>>39620508
Yeah but that's not really salt, that's more like general banter

No one is mad someone stays natty, but damn do dyels get mad at roiders.

It's cause we're a threat to their manhood.
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>>39620570
kek am I supposed to care about the opinion of a guy who couldn't even pin correctly and managed to give himself face aids?
Run along kid

>>39620588
Looking good duder

>>39620602
Yeah peptides and *cough* ladyvar *cough*
don't tell her friends haha
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>>39620602
I fried rice and cream of broccoli soup while stone earlier. That was cool.

I've been doing so much cooking.
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>>39620611
you being obese and short isn't an opinion it's a fact
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>>39620552
Holy shit youre barely a foot taller than that doorknob.

How much of a manlet are you?
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>>39620619
his shoulder is at the level of the light switch, lmfao

i am guessing like literally 5'2 or something
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>>39620617
Yo nigga how long did it take for your acne to go away with accutane? I'm a month in to 20mg a day, and if anything my acne has gotten worse
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>>39620619
5'1 so don't talk shit
I'm like literally the tallest guy in my town
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>>39620611
>Yeah peptides
I am sitting on pic related atm.
>>39620615
>I fried rice and cream of broccoli soup while stone earlier. That was cool.
I miss making fried rice with eggs and lunch meat and this Walmart $1 rice and veggie mix lol.
>I've been doing so much cooking
I love cooking!
Cleaning up all the mess I made...
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>>39620638
upon taking accutane i immediately stopped forming new acne. it just took until all the current acne went away, and then i never got new acne until i ran dnp. then my chest broke the fuck out because i was sleeping in puddles of sweat every night. now it's gone again though.
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>>39620525
Is this seriously what it feels like? After ONE DAY?? Why do people ever come off this shit
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>>39620640
Tb500
Cjc1295
Model grf 1-29
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>>39620652
exactly what i think to myself all the time

until i was forced to drop to a 100mg cruise to get my stupid ass face fixed

never coming off again unless it's for reasons similar to this
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>>39620657
Fuck how soon did that happen? Did u take anything for the acne? What Esther test and how much a week were u doing? Taking an AI?
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>>39620662
I don't get acne for shit anymore, even if I run 860mg tren.

My acne was pretty fucking hideous on my chest/shoulders/back, it was barely there on my face honestly. I had it bad in my early teens but it went away basically completely by the time i was 18

the only think i "took" for acne was the 20mg of UGL accutane for 3-4 months

it's been like... 3.5 months since i stopped the accutane, and it's still working
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>>39620640
Are you really? Is your family short or did your genetics just fuck you over?
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>>39620670
Fuck im jealous. Pic related is my acne, its like this all over my back/chest/shoulders. I fuckin want it gone. I might give it another month of 20mg and if theres no improvement go to 40mg
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>>39620670
I've literally beat off 6 times today. I average once a week. This is like 36 hours after injection of enanthate. How is it this amazing already
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>>39620682
honestly probably is test A, not E. I didnt notice ANYTHING from test E before 4 weeks in
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>>39620646
>Currently sitting on
So you're sitting on a cutie with a MAGA cap?

>>39620656
AH
Makes more sense
tb500 and grf are one's I've looked at in the past, but the simplicity of mk677 was probably its big seller

I've been researching Noopept and the racetams
Looks like they'll be super handy for future plans, plus I might have a few people who would buy it from me.
Also MT2 is a great seller here.

All totally legal in Aus too which is fantastic

>>39620673
No not really lol
I'm about 5'5-5'6
It's a bit hard to convert properly because metric
BUT all my siblings are over 6 foot easy, so I'm basically the dwarf of the family.
Short but bearded and able to pick up heavy shit easy
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>>39620652
honestly you are either riding the placebo-train or your "test enanth" has something in it or you were low test

I bnc and only way I can feel test-e within a day or two is if I havent pinned in a while and my test levels are low enough to cause no libido

its scientifically impossible to have what you described from a single pin unless you pinned +1g at once and even then you wouldnt have an increase in lifts within a day
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>>39620679
Accutane prevents future acne it doesn't get rid of the old.

Plus it takes months for it to really reach full effect. Be more patient and use other skincare methods to treat existing shit.
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>>39620687
Some of my lifts were just slightly up, mostly had more reps in me and took shorter rest breaks. Didn't look at my phone, didn't need music. Just all around great workouts, mixed with the constant lap rock all day.
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>>39620687
To be fair I popped a huge diamond hard boner about 20 minutes after my first pin. Was definitely related.

Didn't notice a difference in the mirror or gym for over a month though.
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>>39620685
>>I'm about 5'5-5'6
>It's a bit hard to convert properly because metric
5'3 confirmed

give it in centimeters then noob

>>39620687
>>39620703
>>39620704
i was low test and i noticed an extreme life changing difference the next day as soon as i woke up

i felt some shit instantly but chalked that up to placebo/adrenaline

what i felt upon waking up and afterwards was 100% not placebo though
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>>39620704
The veiny could be cuz I just upped my water intake and cut sodium a bit. (Was eating 70% clean 30% junk at a i gene s for a while before the cycle) now it's 100% clean and high protein high fat. All of this is hitting at once and I feel alive bros.
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>>39620717
>at maintenance
Holy fuck. I'm also stoned.
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>>39620679
Mirin glasses and gains.
>>39620685
>the simplicity of mk677 was probably its big seller
Definitely agreed. I am gonna get bloods on 50mg mk677 and then go HAAM and get bloods at 100mg mk677/day, 1g cjc1295/e3d, and 100mcg 3x/day mod grf.
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>>39620704
not even test no ester (in oil) works that fast, test suspension barely starts working within 20 mins

all these retards roiding while they have no clue when they got a needle fetish or how any of this shit works
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>>39620728
Be interesting to see how it goes.
I'm mainly interested in how the Gh stuff affects recovery and sleep.
At the moment that's the big thing I want to tackle.
I progressively get bigger and stronger, but I toss and turn all night plus sometimes get really sore at random after a good workout lol

This stuff for memory etc sounds amazing.
Some of them have been shown to affect depression and anxiety, plus help people be more out going.
For an autist that's pretty damn cool
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>>39620738
i get that shit too and bimbo says he does too, getting horny as fuck right after you inject.

i think it might be similar to tren cough. like some leaks into your blood stream when you nick a vein
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>>39620738
That entire last half of your post is incomprehensible
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Can I tell my doctor I'm taking steroids? Seeing an endo this week to get blood work done. Is he gonna fucking Jew me out to the cops or to my parents who's health care I'm still on? (21yo)
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>>39620877
...

if you are on gear and go to any doctor let alone a fucking endocrinologist to get bloodwork done, they will instantly know you are on gear when they see the results, and then the insurance companies will fuck you over for the rest of your life

enjoy
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>>39620937
Wonderful guess I'll be canceling that appointment
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>>39620959
just use privatemdlabs and get it done yourself for like $60 for the female hormone panel

i forgot how much it costs to add lipids, can't be too much
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>>39620937
Never heard about a doctor fucking you over gear use.
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>>39620728
Any news on the yk11? totally forgot about this one.
What do you usually dissolve ostarine and LGD in?
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>>39621201
they don't do it on purpose but they are obligated to keep accurate medical records, which your insurance company has access to since they are directly involved in the payment of your health care
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>>39620234
Yo, whats the problem with carbs? Is this a roider specific thing? I dont really pay too much attention to how many carbs i eat And still makin good gains
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>>39621338
They are too good. And carbs are good for gains.
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>>39620196
>1/2 inch slin pin in glutes

why
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>>39617878

>Inject 200mg of Test E
>1 day later
>Heart is racing, beaten very hard
>Chest hurts


What the fuck?
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>>39621785
Anyone else curious about the current 'cycle' Tony Huge is doing?
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>have work today, flying to Texas
>my ride bails an hour before he's grabbing me
>call 3 different buddies
>obviously no ones answering because it's fucking 330 am
>fuck my life
>suck up pride and call my ex
>"fuck...yes okay give me 30 babe"
>she's surprisingly cool
>"you can fill up my tank when you get back ;)"
>going through security just now, and see my original ride walking through the opposite lane
>call him out
>he's fucked on lsd flying to Orlando for twelve hours and flying back
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>>39622093
>fill my tank ;)

Ready to be a baby daddy?
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>>39622156
No. I've played that game with her too much. I hate feeding her plan b. She's notoriously shitty after plan b.
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>>39620518
I injected last sunday. Today I don't feel any different aside from the horrible fucking pip.

Though my cumloads have significantly decreased, also kinda dull orgasm
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>>39622163
All girls are. The hormones plus whatever underlying guilt they have makes it pretty shitty which is why you should just use a consistent BC.
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I want to knock up a girl so bad
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>>39622391
Nahhhhh
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>>39622417
Gross dude.
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>>39622421
This is NPP?

Can't wait to BLAST off after exam week
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>>39622428
Just test.
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>>39622417
hnnnnggg who
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>>39622417
See if she's down for a 3way with 2 BWC bodybuilder bros.

>>39622418
Well in my experience at least.
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>>39622444
High schooler

>tfw no gf to beg me to knock her up and make her a mommy
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>>39622454
Someone you know irl?
Shame, looks so close to my lesbo crush. tfw^2
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>>39622478
Yep

Post your impregnation/would mommy pics
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>>39622486
Woof you make me realize I'm
Pretty glad to be living with my ex. Can't wait to have that on the regular again. Especially eager to see how freaky she gets on var.
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>>39622454
Pretty cute, how many black boys has she fucked?
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>>39622497
She's into the preggo fantasies? Nice

>>39622500
0 you cuck
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>>39622510
We both have breeding fetishes
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>tfw cutting at 1700 cals on 800mg tren and clen @ 82kg(down from 91kg last month after a super bulk)

Fuck I feel so weak, my grip strength by trying to clench my fist as hard as I can feels kinda crappy.

I did my regular 75 minute arms work out 2 days ago and had like 9 hours of sleep last night and I'm still kind of not into it, but its only back day for 30 minutes so I can't pussy out.

Fuck, cutting sucks, still 4 more KG to go, has to be within this year.
>>
gonna jump on test/tren soon

is my dick still gonna work? i have a solid dick and i plan to keep on fucking alot(around 830 matches left on tinder)
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>>39622546
At 250mg test, 500mg tren, it was the craziest libido I ever had desu
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>>39622546
It better.
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>>39622421

Why does your core seem so thin? Do you just hit chest and shoulders much harder?

Is it an intentional thing?
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>>39622640
Its because he has short lat insertions, and also the angle/pose
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If im running my first cycle of only Test E 600mg/ week 300mg Tuesday and Friday, should I run an AI during the cycle. Also, what should my pct look like I know i should wait two weeks after last pin to start it
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>>39620714
When did you decide to BnC?
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>>39621785
Did you plunge out first to make sure you didn't tap into a vein?
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>>39622687

Yeah, I always do. Sometimes I get this side effect, sometimes I don't. I've noticed that if I fail to take an aromatase inhibitor for 3 days when injecting, my chest starts hurting again and it becomes extremely hard to sleep at night. Could it be water retention?
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>>39620443
>it's nice to see that you seem hopeful
Yeah, to me it's the only way to be if I want to make progress. I feel like we're biologically predisposed to be pessimistic. That has a place, no doubt, but our imperative becomes protection rather than progression at that stage.

I guess I WANT to be hopeful and am seeking out facts to fit that end. I feel more hope under Trump than I ever did under Obama.

But regarding r- and k- type selection, we can only hope that ending or scaling back govt. welfare and reducing tax cuts will swing the advantage back to the k-typers. I think the rise in r-type is enabled by the nanny state that provides for the lazy and profligate.

You're definitely right about our current situation, and when it comes to the future outlook there are no right answers.

M A G A
A
G
A

>>39620552
Holy shit you're back. Chest scars looking much better, good job. What'd you do?

>>39620657
So do you feel shitty on 100mg cruise?

>>39622669
>should I run an AI during the cycle
Probably. Stop if you have low E symptoms (this may be a sign that you have god-tier genetics like bimbo who doesn't take AI even on shitloads of test).

> Also, what should my pct look like
Reddit r steroids wiki
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>>39622710
Do you not take an AI EOD?
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>>39622796

Yes, like 0.5 of Letro.
>>
21
3/4 years
idk probably 15-16%?

Thinking of starting 500mg test e for 12 weeks, nolva pct after, arimidex on hand for itchy nips.. Am I missing something?
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>>39622825
would be my first cycle btw, so trying to keep it simple, thought of dbol kickstart but probably won't
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>>39622810
Bf%?
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>>39622838

20%

184cm tall
85kg
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>>39622825
>Am I missing something?
Nah, you're good to go

The only mistake in your plan is falling for the cycling meme but I think it's pretty common for people to think that way
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>>39622948
Could you elaborate? Do you mean the PCT part, implying I should just cruise afterwards?
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>>39618410
Why aren't you running caber with tren if that's your issue?
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Wow. Circle supposedly won't sell btc and let you transfer it to your wallet now. Fuck them.
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>>39622973
People here always think cycling is a waste of time and gains. But honestly its better to start with the idea of maybe running one or a few cycles and take extended periods off. If later you wanna go for the BnC lifestyle that's always an option.
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>>39622825
also better quality pic (I hope), 92 kgs at 186cm atm
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>>39623030
that's what I was thinking, maybe I respond badly or just don't like the stuff or whatever, seems better to test the waters first so to say
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>>39623028

>fake tits
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>>39623075
Btw as for your cycle you're not really missing anything but in case of itchy nips/gyno you wanna bridge the period with nolva cause it takes a few days before estro is lower from the AI.
So if you have symptoms take 20mg nolva and your AI and quit the nolva after symptoms reside. Then keep going with the AI and figure out the dosage to keep your estro in check.
And you could look into HCG at 200IU twice weekly (or throughout) for the last 4 weeks of your cycle for a faster recovery.. but that's really not essential.
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>>39622973
Yeah, I was being a slightly facetious/meme-y when I wrote that. Basically what Apoc said >>39623030

>>39623075
That's fair. It's hard to know what's best until you get a sense of your goals.

Also, you seem to have a pretty great natty T production so cycling would probably suit you well. Whereas for naturally low T people, BnC is the only reasonable choice.

>>39623028

I know I can buy BTC from Circle, are you saying I can't send it to my own wallet address (that's not linked to Circle)? How would they even know it's mine?
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>>39617904
Haven't been in for a few weeks

What the fuck am i looking at
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>>39623158
>in case of itchy nips/gyno you wanna bridge the period with nolva cause it takes a few days before estro is lower from the AI.
>So if you have symptoms take 20mg nolva and your AI and quit the nolva after symptoms reside. Then keep going with the AI and figure out the dosage to keep your estro in check.

Interesting, haven't heard this before but it makes a lot of sense. I'm assuming that you could also use ralox to this end? (Since you're basically wanting to block estrogenic activity at breast tissue).
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>>39623158
Thanks for the tip on using nolva right away when I get symptoms of gyno, and I'll look into HCG, might be worthwhile

>>39623170
Alright thanks, hope my T is great lol, thinking about getting bloodwork done beforehand because I'm curious, and then again after PCT, but shit's expensive
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That was kinda scary. I pinned my glute and after the needle went in my hand got super cold and I couldn't feel it, kinda like pins and needles.

>>39623170
>How would they even know it's mine?
I don't think you can send btc at all to wallets. You'd have to convert it back to usd and send it to an email or phone number for use via circle.
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>>39623243
>shit's expensive
Nah, just like 67$ on private MD labs

Get the female hormone panel for pre cycle and post PCT labs

You have to get the LC/MS test for on cycle labs

Your T is pretty good, it's evident by your natty physique. Low T people don't really keep a lot of muscle and because their cortisol isn't inhibited they keep a lot of fat instead. You look pretty lean. If you keep up your same sort of discipline/diet on cycle then you'll get great results

good luck!
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>>39623300
>I don't think you can send btc at all to wallets.
Nope.

I just made like 3 orders this weekend and sent BTC to 3 different wallets
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Been unable to walk properly for a couple months- I can walk fine for maybe 5-10 minutes then my shins start aching like there's intense pressure on them.

Talked to a GP and Physical Phys and both were completely useless.

Google suggested it was blood pressure related and that'd make sense since I'm on cycle and asprin seemed to help.

Anyone experience anything similar?

What do? Simply lower my fraud?
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>>39622825
This is with serious effort or just fucking arount for 4 years?

>>39622948
>cycling is a meme
then why did i make crazy gains and still have them?

BUT ITS UNFAIR BUT THIS AND THAT AND LIGHTNING AND POSES AND GENETICS

You losers are fucking comical. PUSSIES
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>>39623313
It happened like 12 hours ago fampai
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What's his stack?

He said 250mg test but I want to believe he's on more than that.
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>>39623403
...I mean he's not that big so it's entirely possible. But maybe higher test (500) doubtful but maybe a little tren.
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>>39623345
Do you have other symptons like shortness of breath, blurred vision etc etc?

If you could just use your brain for once, you could also think to fucking search the symptoms of high blood pressure and come to the same conclusion as most people with fucking common sense, dumb shit


>>39623403
Just fucking pathetic this people are on STEROIDS

GTFO WITH YOUR FUCKING IDIOTIC QUESTIONS.

You fucking disgust me with your weak minded attitude. You are the fucking cancer this planet need to get rid of, fucking faggot
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>>39623345
magnesium might help.

been dealing with this shit all the time, its always when i havent moved around a lot and then start jogging or whatever out of a sudden or i walk very fast.

massaging my shin muscles hard as fuck with a wooden roller helps, but its just a temporary fix.
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>>39623418
>he's not that big
Yeah but 245lbs is still pretty big

>>39623421
So he's natty?
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>>39623403
kek senpai, this is me after 8 weeks of 250mg test e: http://i.imgur.com/IuQDDlu.jpg

and im leaner than him
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Been on and off to be honest, had some breaks, last 1.5 years have been very serious (imo). I've been doing my very best to eat well (not clean, just make sure I get atleast enough protein and calories in daily, did get quite some fat from that though, as I don't really care about overeating). I sleep 8 hours per day on average (though I sometimes don't sleep at all due to partying/festivals/whatever) I make sure to track my lifts and progress on them in the gym, following a ppl routine 5-6 days a week.

It's been on and off really, even the last 1.5 years I've had some short breaks now and then, think I'm in about 3.5 years at this point.

>>39623302
Thanks for the help anon friendo
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>>39623444
You look like you weigh less than 200lbs

Also where is the vascularity?
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>>39623433
I know your life means fucking shit, but maybe it's time to worry about your own life. Instead of wondering what other people are on so you can justify your fucking weak loser dyel life even more.

most people on steroids are still dyel. WHAT ELSE IS NEW?
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So I got a blood test, anyone knows what does it mean that the average sedimentation rate is 15mm/hour and I only got 1mm/hour?
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>>39623452
>>39623372
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>>39623460
I'm not sure where this aggression is coming from I just want to know if I can get there on 250mg like he said he was on

Are you saying he's dyel?
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>>39623463
Why the fuck did they test that? Do you have cancer or some weird ass disease?
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>>39623452

Goddamn man Im so jelly. Im 186cm too and am this guy
>>39620679
I'm 77kg atm. Any tips?
Legit you're goals
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>>39623456
lol yes because that guy you posted is prolly 8 inches taller than me.
And that guy you posted looked like 190lbs tops and i was buffled that he is that heavy, which is why im assuming he is tall

you can see a shoulder vein in that pic, otherwise my arms turn into a road map in the gym
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>>39623496
just keep at it really, I used to be skelly/skinnyfat when I started. Your jawline looks good so just make sure you keep on working out and your body will keep on improving. Then it's time to slay ma dood
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>>39623487
I don't know I just ordered a full analysis and they sent that too, everything else is in the normal range though
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>>39623517
He's 6'3" iirc and I know he's in the 240 neighborhood because he competes at 242

Anyway, to conclude, that build is feasible on 250mg test e?
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>>39623573
yes it is because hes chubby.

seriously hes fatter than me, and i consider myself to be obese

you also dont get this big on 250mg test e in a few weeks (except me of course kek).

prolonged usage is defo reality.

pic related is the result of 250mg test too, 215lbs and much much leaner than both of us
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>>39623421
>Do you have other symptons like shortness of breath, blurred vision etc etc?
No

>If you could just use your brain for once, you could also think to fucking search the symptoms of high blood pressure and come to the same conclusion as most people with fucking common sense, dumb shit
and you'd have the common sense to read that I had already done that and hence was asking, dumb shit

>>39623431
Yeah I'm naturally deficient in magnesium because of Type 1 diabetes, already taking it and it helps

Thanks for the info. I think more cardio is a good move but it's just so fucking hard to get running while I'm like this
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>>39623624
Well what are your lifting stats so we can look at this more objectively? He was benching 335 or so with a 600lb deadlift
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>>39623345
If its pumps Balance your electrolytes and look into taurine etc.

But I just got surgery on my calve for compartment syndrome so lets hope its not that
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>>39623649
oh come on anon, you asked if its possible to get as big as him and now you are asking for numbers.
This isnt a dick contest.

I also cant give you any number because i literally dont do any of the 4 main lifts, believe it or not.
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Should an AI not be ran til symptoms appear? Then once on the AI, do I stay on it til I'm off the test, until the first day of PCT, or through PCT? I have exemetase or whatever the spelling is, aromasin
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>>39621226
lmao

isnt it fun living in america where you get fucked by insurance companies.

My insurance company literally has to ASK ME if I want them to show a SINGLE FILE of my medical record and even then I CAN REFUSE THEM and they are not allowed to fuck me up unless its of a treatment I want them to fund.
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>>39619441
Idk how people don't, it made me hungry as fuck
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>>39619860
He would get very big
for you
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>>39623390
Oh shit, thanks for the heads up then
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>>39623864
Fucking lol'd
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>>39623864

>>39623911
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>>39622517
>breeding
>fetish
It's literally the point of sex
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>>39623730
Bump for answers
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>>39623949
I am judging you.
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>>39623987
>bimbo doing the judging

fuck off cuckmeister 2000.
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>>39623730
see
>>39623158

and lurk moar
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>>39624051

I wonder how fucked up that baby is if that person is still on TRT.
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>>39624208
Wait is that a pregnant ftm
Damn roasties cant keep off the dick even as a man
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>>39624008
you're bored chill
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>>39624208
>>39624254
It's actually a man that got an uterus transplant
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>>39624269
Hows that even work
Female hormones are super important for that
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>>39617904
UPDATE

LEAVING FOR THE SPECIALIST IN 7 MINUTES

APPOINTMENT IS IN ONE HOUR
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>>39624347
i wont be there then, someone screencap this shit.
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The real question, will the baby boy in there be an alpha CHAD due to his """mother""" having super high test while he's in the womb?

>>39624254
>Wait is that a pregnant ftm
yes

>>39624269
>It's actually a man that got an uterus transplant
no
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>>39624347
GOOD LUCK BRO
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>>39624382
>CHAD
I'm going to go with developmentally disabled.
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>>39624390
I think this is inevitable if the tranny raises him. CHAD genetics or not, growing up in that household will produce a disaster.

I am just curious - if we subscribe to the "CHAD is born, not made" meme, what are the optimal conditions in the womb to maximize the chances of having a CHAD son? I mean you can't really affect the genotype any more, but there might be some epigenetic consequences of being a high test preggo woman
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>>39624382
Hows this even allowed? Kid is going to get fucked by "mothers" hormones and it sure as hell ain't getting breast milk.
Not to mention it will grow up in a fucked up family. They should castrate transgender while doing the surgery.
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> back when I started working on black slave's Jeep, I researched it using "Jeep XJ"
> would find information on parts it doesn't have and bought some Devron VI transmission fluid to begin replacing the old shit
> turns out it's a Jeep WJ, not a XJ, and needs ATF+4
> put transmission fluid in without thinking
> realize immediately afterwards but I can't replace anymore fluid or I risk clogging it and ruining the transmission (this is where the "don't change your trans fluid" myth comes from)
> after a couple thousand miles, car starts to whine
> apparently, Jeep WJ's transfer cases are prone to whining, especially after putting Dexron VI in it

Just a greentext session bearing warning. Something I will never admit to black slave.

Now to piss all over the shower cause she hates it and that's how women want to be treated.
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>>39624382
>no
Sorry, some news sites reported the story of a man that got an uterus transplant with the wrong picture.

It is a thing tho, and who would have guessed Commiefornia is the world leader for uterus transplant in males.
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>>39624446
>world leader for uterus transplant in males

the fucking world we live in
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>>39624446
Doea this mean I can fake a pregnancy for maternity leave, even as a male?
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>>39624446
Yeah, I don't think it actually been done, but it does seem possible

Fuck, I regret searching that

>>39624444
Hey mossad

Can you give a brief recap on black slave? I've seen her mentioned in a lot of your stories - don't think I've heard the origin story
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>>39624446
To clarify, I didn't do research about the subject, this is just what the article says.
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>>39622417
Maggie Blondin?
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>>39624483
>>39624446
>>39624458


Ok, false alarm. It's actually fake news. Sorry.
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Got there 40 mins early have to wait, reee
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>>39624412
>CHAD is born, not made"
I think fraud is big on self determination.

Force him to play sports and socialize. Then get him a hooker when he turns 13.

Maybe growth hormone if you messed up and fucked a womanlet.
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>>39623476
Is this a serious question or a you just fucking with me?

>>39623452
Why do people indirectly ask other people whether they should roid or not? Make up your own fucking mind, make your fucking own decision. Should we also decide whether you should clean your ass, after you shit.

Just get your diet on point, since this will get you actual results. All other things are irrelevant
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>>39624619
>Then get him a hooker when he turns 13.
I dunno if that would help
He wouldnt have the income for enough tranny hookers to satiate him
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>>39624706
>Why do people indirectly ask other people whether they should roid or not

because big decisions are scary for people to make by themselves. Steroids especially so since its health-related and good info is fairly hard to come by.

people always want hand holding yo
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>>39618094

>TRT for physical changes

Hah, yeah good luck with that
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>>39618158

>do you think removing ~18oz of blood is enough to get my rbc and hematocrit back down into range?

Holy fuck you are stupid, like way beyond typical stupid into the realm of you might kill yourself and I really hope you do stupid
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>>39624749
If someone really wants it, he will do it anyway. It's like your parents and your teachers told you not to smoke and drink because it's really bad for your health. But because you were really curious about it, you did it anyway.

If everyone would use the same philosophy with dieting correctly, we would all be freaking massive and ripped.
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Wouldn't doing cardio on gear just increase the risks of lvh/general heart hypertrophy?
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>>39624706
Where did I ask for anyone's opinion whether I should roid lmao, you asked for what I was doing during my lifting period and I responded, pretty sure I'm gonna roid and I merely asked for information in my first post.
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>>39624759
>>TRT for physical changes
>Hah, yeah good luck with that

http://ironandtweed.com/my-low-t-journey-one-year-on-trt/
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>>39624749
dude again, you saw my body after 8 weeks of 250mg test.

pic related is 1 year of 250mg test, 215 lbs at 6'

what else do you want?
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>>39625086
this body type is very ugly for me.
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>>39625024
>200mg/wk
>trt
lmao
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>>39625108
>ugly
>posts this absolute bloated chubby unasthetic fuck >>39623403

Im done with you, your question has been answered in multiple ways and all you have to say is that this body is ugly for you while you are posting this >>39623403

comedy gold
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>>39625129
>>39625024
this, 200mg puts most people at like 1500-1800 ng/dl.

thats double natty levels lol
even triple because lot of people are like 400-600 ng/dl naturally
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I bought extra hcg this time around. What should I do with it?

>Same dose but start sooner
>Same duration and timing but higher dose
>Same dose and start point but carry on longer

I was following Llewellyn's pct - 2000iu every other day for 20 days starting 7 days after last pin.
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>>39625086
>pic related is 1 year of 250mg test, 215 lbs at 6'

WTF kind of cycle is that? You're just begging people to call you small when you tell them you're not natty.

Once you turn in your natty card nobody cares how little drugs you take and you should either be more lean or bigger after a year of sterons.
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>>39625132
>>39623403 is much much more aesthetic than >>39625086

completely different person here btw
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>>39625132
>>39623403
thats not me, but both are very ugly body types.
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>>39625159
Anon, you just jumped into this conversation with absolute no knowledge at all.

First of all, that isnt me. Its just some dude from /fit/.

>Once you turn in your natty card nobody cares how little drugs you take
Yes they do. Because someone specifically asked how much 250mg test does for your body and how far you can go with it and all of my posts i tried to answer this anon's question.

It also isnt a cycle, its called blast and cruise for a reason.
And cycle is something that can be defined by everyone for their own. You are not forced to follow the basic 16 week 500mg test rule.

Look anon, you just went full retard, so next time you post please take 2 minutes of your life to read what we are actually talking about.

Roids is roids for outliners yes. But for other roiders, dosages and results is something we are interested in. And if you havent noticed it yet, you are on STEROIDS GENERAL.
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I'm so close to my goal body weight for my fight night in boxing, opinions on doing one cycle to reach that goal?
Never done roids before but the last bit of weight is being so stubborn
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>>39625237
>>39625230

You wanna know how i know you are ugly bloated pieces of power lifting shits?
fuck i bet im talking to nattys right now.
kek
>>
He has no idea what to even call this

Just got out with specialist

I have to go get a shitload of bloods and an MRI
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>first cycle 500mg test e/week
>huge strength gains after 4 weeks
>slightly bloated stomach
>puffy moonface

is the bloating normal even though i take 0,5mg ai e3d?

also when do you really start seeing size gains?
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>>39625312
i see size gains every 2 weeks lol

weight gains every few days

>>39625302
tell him

>call it "bunk tren glands"
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>>39625086
This could've easily been done natty. The fact that you had to even pin for this is a joke. Either your training or diet is wrong, or both.
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>>39625358
le only take gear once you're at the natty limit meme
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>>39625358
BUT NOT IN ONE YEAR YOU ABSOLUTE DEGENERATE PIECE OF IMBECILE FUCK.

holy shit, someone slap me for taking these low tier b8's
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>>39625302
called it >>39617922

enjoy your forever lasting glands dude
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>>39625302
Inb4 they draw too much blood on top of your draining and you go into a coma
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>>39625129
>>39625138

Ah, gotcha. Didn't realize that 200mg/week was no longer considered TRT.

Is TRT just any dose of test that doesn't take you above 1500?

>>39625138
>even triple because lot of people are like 400-600 ng/dl naturally

Really? This explains why the TRT doc is content with me being at like 575 on HCG alone. Fuck this, I'm telling him I quit unless I get an easy to renew test script.

Charging me 125$/month for 4000 iu HCG/month and bloods. Even if he adds test to it it's a shit deal (without an easy to renew script that doesn't require bloods every time I need to refill).

>>39625139
You might want to look into the research on Leydig cell desensitization if you're gonna do 2000 iu EOD for longer than 20 days. Maybe ask brick, he might know.

>>39625286
Is this you on 8 weeks of 250? ur cute

I saw your imgur pic, chest looks similar to this one here
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>>39625394

le take AAS to look like a fucking natural meme

Pic related, get there, then use AAS.

There are three guys in the general that look like they are on AAS. In the roid general. How sad is that?
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>>39625408
I'm betting its gonna be mucus plugs

Need the mri to confirm
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>>39625444
dude, even 1500 ng/dl is above natural levels.

I think the highest natural levels are like 1100, and thats rare as fuck.

125$/month for hcg to put you at barely 600 ng/dl is the biggest waste of time and money you can possibly do. Its absolutely useless.

NO THAT ISNT ME. And no it its 1 year of 250mg, not 8 weeks.

THE IMGUR LINK IS ME, and the IMGUR LINK IS 8 weeks.
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>>39625444

>is this you

Nah that guy has a core + he isn't the color of a tomato
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>>39625493
>on image board
>links to imgur

Gb2reddit
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>>39625465
who
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Red pill me on Mast. Worth it?

Anyone here ever use Mast E? I know that masT(er) says that 100mg is all he will ever use but based on reddit it looks like the levels most people use are 300-500mg

I'm interested in experiencing the mental sides. Also it seems very interesting to me as a direct way to get the masculinization sides that tren is supposed to give you (inb4 trenface is a meme)
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>>39625541
I homebrewed mast e and ran it at 1g for a while now at 400mg or so a week but never really noticed anything so maybe it's bunk.
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>>39625541

>based on reddit

Yeah but reddit users all have garbage pajeet genetics, train with 0 intensity, and eat pizza and dicks. They also have cuck genetics. They are cucks. Pure and simple.

So they need insane doses of shit to look like.... garbage.

Don't listen to anything that comes out of their mouthes.
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>>39625577
Did your hair fall out or anything (assuming you're predisposed)?

I'm basically just confused about how to reconcile the sides and purported effects with it having a lower androgenic rating than test 25-40 according to steroids wiki
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>>39625500
>nah that guy has a core

sad but true anon, sad but true....

>tomato
im pale as fuck (pic related), that was just the lighting

and before you say it thats MY NATTY PHYSIQUE OKAY, NO BANTERS
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>>39618282
>Strongest bone in the body.
>Breaks it in 15 spots.
You are either full of shit or you have a story to tell us.
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>>39625589
nah never lost any hair but I used nizoral everyday for a while but have since knocked it down to every 3 days.
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>>39625589
it's DHT, retard
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Bought some vitamin D. Just arrived.

How long before I feel the nootropic effects?

I had no exposure to sunlight and minimal vitamin D in my diet.

Seems like typical bodybuulding diet (oats, chicken, steak, brocolli, eggs, milk) has no fucking vitamin D in it
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>>39625465
it's not sad

it's only sad if you're a retarded normie who thinks steroids will kill you and you're risking everything by blasting 500mg of test per week for 16 weeks

there's ABSOLUTELY ZERO REASON to get to a certain point before roiding. doing something in 6 years instead of 8 months is the dumbest fucking thing you can do
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>>39625658
>I had no exposure to sunlight and minimal vitamin D in my diet.
are you a neet or something? also, most meats and dairy products have either some vitamin D or are enriched with it (in the US at least). In reality you're not going to get any noticeable benefits from vitamin d but who knows.
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>>39625671
>doing something in 6 years instead of 8 months

You're not gonna look like natty masT in 8 months unless you're like 3 feet tall
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>>39625692

Nah I work at home (ecommerace) so I'm indoors all day.

Only place I go really is the gym and okcupid dates once every couple week.

Gym is indoors so is dates. So I don't get sunlight.

>, most meats and dairy products have either some vitamin D or are enriched with it (

I started tracking my macros recently and look at this shit and there's a ton of meat and diary in my diet
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>>39625746
>>39625692
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>>39625762
>>39625746
weird, I'd start at 5k iu ED and maybe add a vit-d25hydroxy blood test if you have extra money to blow next time you get bloods done.
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>>39625658
Its not like some cray thing where youll go yeah this is the d!

In a few weeks youll be vaguely better

>>39625692
Youd be very suprised
I had a prescription for 50k iu vit d I was so deficient
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>>39625805
>I had a prescription for 50k iu vit d I was so deficient
you ever notice anything beneficial? my mom had a 25k iu one taken e3d or something and I've always done 5k ed
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When they draw my blood I can do it from my right arm right lmfao

Cuz the inside of my left elbow is so fucked
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>>39625723
>that guy who believes masT's "natty" pics are natty
please
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>>39625805
>youll go yeah this is the d!
kek
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>>39625801

>next time you get bloods done

Am a natty cuck so that's never.


I bought a 2000 UI per drop thingy so I'm taking 6000ui now.( 3 drops)

Mast? Said he was throwing up and shit on 10,000 and had constant diharea so I want to acclimate myself to it before I go that hard.

>>39625805

>vaguely better

Sounds good desu
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So my package requires a signature and i wasnt home so usps left the pink slip.
Twice now i have signed one for the mailman and he took it and they still havent delivered my shit wtf , its been 2 weeks
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>>39625892
youre supposed to fill out the online forum too for redelivery, they probably already returned your shit to the sender.
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>>39626031
Fucking christ, god damn turks i told them no signature required, i got a day job, smdh t b h
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>>39626048
Then keep the slip and fill out the online forms but select hold at post office or whatever. I'd call them asap and track the number to see if they already RTS.
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>>39625493
Not rare as fuck faggot. We're just not cucked american/english faggots eating shit food from some supermarket bigbucks chain. If you cunts would just try you'd be all that is man without injecting your selfs over and over again.
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>>39626088
Thanks for the wisdom anon, ill get on it.
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>>39626116
lol

who is mysterious "we" in this scenario with average test levels of 1500 ng/dl?
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>>39625819
I was also on dhea, pregnenolone, and hcg so its hard to say what just the 50k vit d did, but on a week 1/2 ish business trip i just brought the vit d and pregnenolone/dhea, and I still felt good so thats one less variable lol
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>>39626176
do you usually use hcg too?
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>>39625581
Wow that is so retarded.
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>>39626116
im neither murican nore english.

having test levels over 1000 ng/dl is rare dude, thats a fucking fact so stfu you absolute mongoloid
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>>39619875
I attempted to white balance the picture but I am fucking terrible at white balancing using anything but this program on my old comp. All I know is its super fucked up in the original.
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