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/fraud/ - no brakes on the trump train edition

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No source talk - go to reddit for that
Before asking about whether you're ready (i.e., first cycle advice) remember to post:

>age
>weight
>body fat
>time spent lifting

go to reddit r steroids WIKI for first cycle advice

and don't forget to

MAKE
AMERICA
GREAT
AGAIN
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>>39567124
>that pic

i do not consent this thread
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>>39567179
what part of NO BRAKES do you not understand
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>>39567179
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>>39567263
>>39567124
>Still hasn't made anime real and appointed Steve Mnuchin to cabinet.

Good luck on that draining the swamp and every other campaign promise.
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I wonder how big i will get when i will do my first blast and don't go off. Can we even imagine what will happen. Like, is the world even ready for such greatness

All this mass is 2 cycles. It's just insane, as i am saying it myself. I am really underestimating myself. I recently came to the conclusion I am a lot better than i already thought. I found peace, if found.. myself. I was not afraid to be myself ever again from that time on
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>>39567179
Maga

>>39567342
Yeah he has a straight cabinet, exactly what you would expect from any repub
It was all a ruse
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Does anyone know a guide to create a better tinder profile?

I am not getting enough right swipes
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>>39567379
Why do you even want to get that huge.

You dwarf everyone around you, you can crush any mans skull.

Do you not care a bit about asthetics? I mean you are shredding down and want veiny abs and all that, so you must care about asthetics.

So why get even bigger? Its not good looking
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>>39567406
Why would you care about other people's opinion??? Don't you have an identity of your own? You're too afraid to be yourself, thus you think going into the zyzz muhh 2 grams tren stream will get you happy. someday. GET A GRIP. Get out that delusional fairy tale of yours, you call reality.

YOU ALL ARE FUCKING PUSSIES. Scared to chase your OWN DREAMS. Afraid that other people won't like you. That you won't fit in the picture. Fucking beta weak minded attitude

I do what i think looks best. I don't give a fuck what other people think of me. As long I am content with the way i look, I am happy.

I like to be different, yes, yes i love it. Why do i even wanna look like the rest of you beta's anyway?
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>>39567485
do you have a goal body?
or have you reached it already?

>>39567342
>>39567390
>what is hiding your power level until transfer of power is complete
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>>39567390
It annoys me even more he appointed McConnell's fucking Chinese wife as transportation secretary. Plus in the first meeting with McConnel he told Trump there's no way in hell congressional term limits are happening.
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>>39567392
Avoid selfies, especially shirtless ones. Make it look like you have a life.
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>>39567520
No, I am afraid I will never reach it. I made myself delusional i will reach it, someday. JUST ONE FINAL HIT, remember mom. Just some more muscle over there and there, yeah that will get me happy, hahah for sure. Yes yes

I want to be 100% perfect, flawless. i am even willing to do plastic surgery.


Nobody can stop me, really nobody. I have this picture in my head, but it keeps changing every time i reach it. It's a never ending fairy tale of my
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>>39567566

Good info, but I am a loser and all I do is lift and school I don't have a life.

I don't really ever get pictures taken of me.

How can I get some pics taken of me? Like I need to join some clubs or some shit.
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>>39567622
post body
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OK, I know we said no source talk, but I'm more just talking in general -

I'm guessing it's a given that you will get fucked over by a supplier/lab at some point, even a well-rated one?

As I just said in another thread, I'm yet to come across any source/lab that doesn't have horror stories floating about, and accept underdosed/crap gear as just a random event even from a lab I've used plenty before and after with no issues.

SO fucking annoying because in the UK, it isn't illegal for us to buy and use gear. Yet selling it is, so we have this utterly retarded situation whereby buying a legal product means you have to go down a stupid fucking black-market route.
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>>39567622
>being a personal life hungry skelly

bruh, you ain't ever gonna transcend this mortal plane of DYELs if you're only focused on physical gains and getting STD ridden tinder pussy
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If I'm 18 and take MK-677 at 15mg a day, will it stunt my growth? I only ask because HGH would and MK-677 directly impacts my GH levels.
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>>39567583
That's truly beautiful, man
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>>39567712

How tall are you? Not asking for a scientific reason, just saying that at 18 you're probably pretty much there.

If you're already 6'2, I wouldn't worry. If you're 5'2, you aint' growing much more.
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>>39567729
5'10, and men don't stop growing until they're 25. I don't want to miss out on the opportunity to gain even a half inch
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>>39567684

Can u plz give me some advice on social ganiz?

I was popular in hs (football) but since I moved to college its been 2 years basically no soical interaction.

This life is good for gains but I want an hero.

I wish I was a DYEL again smashing 16yo pussy ;(
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>>39567797
I was varsity lacrosse in HS (it's the football of Maryland) but never pulled any pussy because of social retardation. i need an hero more
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>>39567797
>>39567832
Get yourselves a daki
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>>39567832

You probably didn't get any pussy because everyone thought you were gay
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>>39567727
You that feel that you just about to cum, but suddenly something terrible happens and you won't reach that perfect level of astronomical euphoria. Or you are fucking hungry and you have a pizza i front of you, but you are only able to eat one slice. You will never know how it feels to be that satisfied when you wil eat that whole pizza or reach that euphoric level of orgasm. You will always aks yourself, how would it be.

That's how i feel all the time
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>>39567738
>and men don't stop growing until they're 25
i stopped growing when i was 16
i even had x-rays to check if my growth plates were closed
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>>39567878
tfw been 5'9 since i was like 16-17, and hopped on gear at 18 for being low test

would have killed myself from being 200ng/dl before i wound up getting any taller anyway. lol
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>>39567652
>I'm guessing it's a given that you will get fucked over by a supplier/lab at some point, even a well-rated one?

I don't think it's a given, at least for US domestic ones. There are more than a few sources I can think of who don't have "horror stories floating about."

>>39567738
Well, the "impact" MemeK is supposed to have is an increase in GH levels - not sure why you're concerned it would stunt your growth.

>>39567797
>>39567854
see >>39567854 for one of the ultimate solutions

solution #2 is to shun degeneracy and go monk mode. develop yourself and come to experience the timeless and transcendent joy of living a virtuous, moral life
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>>39567876
masT I have a newfound respect for you.
>>39567878
Doesn't necessarily mean that I've stopped growing
>>39567889
Concerned because increased GH levels stunts growth in teens
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Thinking about running Sus250 for my second cycle. Read online that stacking it with Var or EQ for a leaner look but doesn't sound right to me.

Thoughts?
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>>39567911
>Concerned because increased GH levels stunts growth in teens
Really? Below link suggests otherwise. Unless you're talking about some obscure mechanism that I haven't heard of.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160404091219.htm
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>>39567889
>transcendent joy of living a virtuous, moral life
Its more transcendent with your wife
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>>39567924
Just did a standard Test E cycle for my first one btw, loved all 12 weeks
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>>39567927
http://www.hgh10.com/human-growth-hormone-and-adolescence/

It says here that it can stunt growth. I don't know what to believe...
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>>39567883
>tfw i was slightly above average height for kids my age when starting middle school
>tfw still almost the same height while the average height increased by like 6 inches
>>39567911
no but it means that all men dont grow until theyre 25
the average age of growth plate fusion is 18 for men
get an x-ray if you want to check if you have any growth potential left
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Why do reddit cycles with EQ have such low T? Just to minimize the need for AI?

Is it unwise to just add low amounts (like, 300mg/week) of EQ to a blast dose of 500mg/week? Most of the cycles are high EQ (600-1200mg/week) low test (200-300mg/week).

>>39567854
pic related
dakis are for TRUE ALPHAS
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>>39567952
If you look at the comments for that article, one of the people calls out that part as being total BS

Not saying the comment is proof of anything, but I happen to agree that the claim is BS. Just look at the studies
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>>39568009
Goddamnit I wish there wasn't so much conflicting information. I'll take your anonymous, potentially damaging word for it and take the Ibutamoren.
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>>39567981
Eq is really weak thats why its so high
But as a qol addition it is nice to run at lower levels for some skin and joint gains
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appointment with trt doc on the 6th wish me luck on future cruise life and no fear of international travel.
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ESTP I want to hatefuck you flat chest and dumb face senseless. Easiest 200$ you'll see.
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>>39567392
Literally better pictures

You can have absolute 0 on your progile as long as you have aesthetic facial pictures

>>39567981
A lot of people claim they get more out of the cycle with low test - high test is a waste because EQ does it's job fine; they have similar anabolic levels so its overkill; high test addition causes too much estro issues even with ai; low test is enough to prevent ED etc

Beyond that even if you keep the sides under control with excessive ai use you're more or less wasting your money/potentially health when you could be investing in other compounds to get your desired outcome...

Running EQ low is usually considered a waste but some people like it so if you already have it could try, but if you're trying to bulk or cut there's, again, tons of better compounds to use

>>39568197
I'm being monogamous rn famalam
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>>39568224
>I'm being monogamous rn famalam

Shameful.
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>>39568100
>qol addition
What are the levels you'd run it at for this effect. This is exactly the use of EQ that interests me. 300mg/wk?

>>39568224
>insight into problems with low EQ high T
Thanks ESTP, you really surprise me with your knowledge about sterons that you will probably never use.

How's the gf life treating you?
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>>39568146
Fuck I love her hair

Envious errytime

Tbh I saved some dudes pic for haor you need to into one min will post
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>>39568290
Hey ESTP because you're used to being surrounded by degenerate perverts (chan) i have a youtuber for you to look up to: cherry crush

Google her. She looks about as attractive as you and since she is obviously fucked in the head and with no skills whatsoever she is whispering random pervy shit to youtubers. She has 200k subscribers on youtube now and gets a solid monthly paycheck for that.

But if you google her you can see that she actually does webcam porn and that's where most of the money comes from, she uses youtube to actually advertise her camming.

fucking shameless genius. you could do that. why? more money for drugs.
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Sup degenerates?
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>>39568290
>>39568146
Pic hair

>>39568272
Imouttos don't count :^)

>>39568285
>probably never use
Not until I wake up with a REEL penis

Kek

Tbh I discuss/read sterons seriously on other forums, it's just here that some of the anons get so bent and retarded over it I usually refrain

Best of luck anyway, whatever you end up running

>gf life
I spend it mostly forced sleeping to stay out of shenanigans desu

>>39568328
Kek thanks senpai, not the worst idea actually

Also the fuck did they unfilter desu?
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>>39568388
>did they unfilter desu

Oh, nevermind. It's just with a capital 'T' isn't filtered
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>>39567942
Test is Test retard
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>>39568388
Actually had my hair braided like that when I was in iceland cuz someone did it for me, liked it alot. That fag shit he got all over him tho nothx. Show me more hair stuff.

>Imouttos don't count :^)
I can be forever imoutto if trt comes through
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Where can I get some DNP?
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Not gonna lie most of masTs philosophy makes sense but he must be a huge insufferable narcissist faggot irl
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>>39568430
Yeah he's pretty ugly in like every candid of him too i just like le hair

I've been on a shameless 80s kick for music/hair lately senpai

I barely even like music
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>>39568416
>Different types of test don't affect your body differently

Kys
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>>39568450
MasT is confirmed NICE GUY off 4chan

He's like a tsundere narcissist desu
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>>39568468
If you couldn't get down to pat benator and various 80's delights I would never be your imoutto.
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>>39568488
Don't reply to my posts again you fucking slut.
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>>39568492
;^)

>>39568504
O O P S
O
P
S
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>>39568100
>>39568224

Oh yeah, follow up question. Blasting EQ on low T wouldn't raise T levels on a blood test, right? All the shit on the internet related to this question is hard to parse because I think everyone assumes that you're taking only EQ.

So, if I'm taking for example 200mg test/week putting me at 1500 ng/dl (example), would that value increase if I'm blasting 900mg EQ/week?

Not sure how test levels are measured, which is where this whole confusion stems from?

>>39568337
Sup
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>>39568525
I'm going to have to murder gylenhall clone first aren't i?
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>>39567379
Oh god here comes another please be impressed by my roided body that will be impossible to maintain without roids thread... wont someone please be impressed..the "i have to go so far over the top with confidence so no one will see my obvious low self esteem" threads.
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>>39568532
Eq wont raise T levels (supresses them - hence using T alongside it) but it will show up as boldenone, so it's not like it's going to be invisible
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>>39568555
I'll convince him to adopt you if need be bb
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>>39568450
Oh huge fag..i can guarantee it
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>>39568445
ask the guy with the yellowest cum at your gym
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>>39568445
Ask the guy leaking yellow sweat on all the machines.
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>>39568388
>I spend it mostly forced sleeping to stay out of shenanigans desu

tfw ywn have a gf who sleeps and wake up only 4 u
>why live

>>39568564
OK cool, i'm not getting screened for PEDs, just hormone panel for TRT lol
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>>39568596
>>39568607
What's this yellow meme?
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>>39568532
Chillin. Kinda have a headache. Almost into keto I think. Might piss on one of those strips tomorrow to check.
Also your test levels would not go up on a blood test from eq.
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>>39568637
dnp dyes your bodily fluids yellow
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>>39568650
How long does it last?
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>>39568660
until its out of your system
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Totally missed the muscle in my thigh. Probably didn't clean my hands enough. Probably touched the pin area after wiping it down.

5 inch by 5 inch abscess between the skin and muscle. On augmentin and bactrim, got a shot of something else.


SPEEDBUMP
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>>39568698
Nice. I got an infection once in my glutes kinda like that a few years ago. 10 days of doxycycline and that was that.
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>>39568718
Yesterday I could press my finger into it and remove it, the indention wouldn't go away.
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Where do you guys get yours?

I'm from a relatively small city in Canada and know most of the local plugs but my city is mostly party drugs/weed and no roids.

Has anyone ordered off the deepweb successfully?
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>>39568698
>>39568735
That's kinda of horrifying. Makes me want to go natty forever.
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>>39568748
It happens.

Just remember to wash your hands and the area. Wipe it down with an alcohol pad. Let it dry. Pin into the muscle if doing it that way.

>ya live and learn.

>>39568740
>see attachment of pixels
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>>39568735
Lmao nice. I got cellulitis. It was all hard and lumpy and weird. It was probably about 3x5 inches.
Did they drain your abscess or anything? What did you tell the doc? B12 shots or something?
>>39568740
All the time.
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>>39568740
nah man I tried to go into the dark web for steroids once and got my computer hacked, it's not worth it bro
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>>39568774
All I said was, "I felt like I was stung by something Saturday, when I woke up Sunday it was hot, swollen, and hurt."

No raised area to drain from, so if it doesn't get better they will cut it open and see what comes out. But its unfortunate spot, I have a gigantic thigh tattoo where its swollen at.

Today its slightly less hard but doesn't leave indention when pressed. It may have gotten a little smaller.
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>>39568807
>I think I was stung by a tren wasp or something doc...
Classic lmao
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>>39568740
You can literally google legit sauces that deliver domesic or europe>canada

China/India are a bit iffier border wise but sterons are legal by technicality for leafs so generally the worst case ontario is a letter in the mail saying your shits been confiscated that you can just ignore
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>>39568835
Goddamn right. My other excuse would be, I was trying to remove an ingrown hair, sneezed, and stabbed myself in the thigh with the needle.
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>>39568865
>sneezed, and stabbed myself in the thigh with the needle.
Mmmm that's good too. I just straight up told the doc I was pining but I had a trt script at the time so no big deal.

What size slin pins should I buy guys? 29 or 31 gauge? I don't want to be there forever pining so probably 29?
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how long should i do pct until i start cutting after a cycle? is 1 month to short?

doing 20 weeks of 250mg mo/fr with ai e3d

3 weeks into it now already gained 6kg with minimal bloat
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>>39568643
You doin keto because of memeK related issues or just to lose weight?

Taking a few days off memeK before a blood test just to make my health/sleep really shitty before a blood test that will determine whether I can quit this useless HCG crap and get that TRT script I've wasted 2 months of potential gains/crusing to get
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>>39568914
for subq injection? 31 is comfy and doesn't take forever to pin. 30 seconds for 1 cc taking it slow
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Sup /fraud/.
Got my hands on 3 vials of Test E, 10ml's of 300mg/ml. Planning out my cycle and ordering AI's and PCT today. Got a few questions -
1. I've heard exemetase is best for AI, because it's a suicide AI, so it kills off the estrogen Jew real good. My buddy told me to keep Letrozole on hand as well. Is there a need for both? Money isn't really an issue, I've got thousands saved up and $50 isn't gonna make or break me I just wanna do this cycle as properly as possible. Do I need both?

2. Look at my week 10-14. I have the dose of test with question marks next to it because I don't know if I should be running a 10 week cycle only, a 12 week cycle full blast, or a 10 week cycle with a 2 week taper. Any advice for that?

3. The only PCT drug I can find is Clomephine. Do I need nolvadex too? Or is clomephine enough?

Sorry if any of these questions are dumb; I'm sure they've been asked a billion times before I'm just kind of nervous for this first time and I'm trying to do everything right.

Stats since I know you'll ask: I'd grade my diet at a B- as I eat some junk here and there but a lot of clean protein as well, but as soon as that needle touches my ass cheek for the first time my diet will be impeccable. Training is always good. I've been lifting since I was 14, I'm 21 now, I'm 6'1 around ~195-200 with a slight amount of pudge but not fat by any means. My form on all lifts is good. Bench around 245, dead lift is 365 easily, squat is pretty weak but only because I refuse to use a belt or do anything but ATG so I usually keep it around 275 or less. Let me know what you think thanks
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CB tell me I'm gross
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>>39568471
Different ESTHERS of test, big difference. The only difference is release time. Its still the same exact hormone.
I guess you are one of those who would only use acetate to cut or to prep.
People are so retarded.
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>>39569195
Mirin Nipple gains.
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>>39568953
I'm doing keto to cut. I'm not that fat. Like 15%ish?
I would fill all your hcg scripts and just keep them for whenever you want to come off.
>>39568984
Ya subq. 30 seconds for 1ml? Definitely going to get 29g lol.

Chinaman brought me that special insulin today.
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>>39569195
Height?
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>>39569253
1ml is alot subq
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Anyone have any vids of infographics on the first pin? I have my shit all planned out, just wondering how exactly to get 250mg worth of test e into the needle, and if there are any specific techniques I need to follow.

Is it necessary to heat up the oil? i'm not worried about the pain, I have 23gauge needles btw.
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>>39569374
Ya I have no idea. Never done anything subq before.
>>39569379
I would definitely heat the oil. Makes everything easier.
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>>39569415
Like the vials are going to be 1-3ml
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>>39569420
Ya they are tiny but I think I'm gonna have to shoot 1cc of the cjc at once. Maybe use different injection sites?
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>>39569379
You literally just pull the test into the syringe with the plunger. Dont heat it. The only technique I'd recommend is rubbing the area after to help with potential pip

It's okay if a tiny bit of oil leaks out after injection

I personally hate pinning glutes and reccommend quads masterrace

Insert needle through rubber stopper on test bottle
Pull plunger til test fills required level in syringe
Pull out of test bottle
If air bubbles in syringe, tap the syringe to bring them to the end
Press down on plunger to push them out (can do this inside the test bottle if youre scared of accidentally squirting a bunch of oil out)
Wipe top of test bottle with alchohol swab for hygiene
Grab and squeeze up a chunk of your flesh/muscle in your upper outer quad
Wipe this area where youll insert needle with alchohol swab for hygiene
Still holding chunk of your flesh, insert needle
Pull back plunger and if blood enters the syringe, take out needle and reinsert in a new spot
If no blood, push down on plunger
Rub area
Wipe
Bandaid

Done

Ignore the double needle shit in this video it's not really needed:

https://youtu.be/azF1FoepHuo
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>>39569484
Okay, and now for the dumbass question.

So, how many ML will I need to fill my syringe for a 250mg Test injection? thanks for the reply, ur the bomb
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>>39569484
Wiping the bottle AFTER you've pulled from it?

I've been pinning for about 2 1/2 years and have never pulled back the plunger. If you have veins deep in your quad muscle, you've got much bigger problems.

Bandaid? Really? Do you use the batman kind or the barbie kind?
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how to bloodletting
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>>39569528
Depends on your test, it should say on the bottle

Ie. 250mg/ml = 1ml on the syringe (obvi)
500mg/ml = 0.5ml on the syringe

Etc

Ie. Pic related is an old bottle of script cyp at 100mg/ml and the relevant syringe

To get 250mg test I'd have to fill to 2 1/2 on that syringe

But most test will be dosed higher than 100mg/ml so you'd not need to go so high
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>>39569544
Nigga I'm not going to argue details with you on how you pin your steroids go get your estro checked

When I pinned test I didn't wipe, bandaid, etc, doesn't mean it's uncommon practice or a bad thing to do. I included a fucking video of a doctor explaining it for christs sake

>not checking for blood under the guize it cant happen
I'm not even going to explain to you why you're a retard

>it's a I'm actually giving ontopic advice and being helpful episode but anon is still sperging rerun
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>>39567124
STOP RIGHT THERE YOU JUICE NIGGERS!
Don't you dare violate the God Emperor's name with your disgusting cheating and trickery!
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>>39569563
cut your wrists freak
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>>39569633
I ain't your nigger, faggot.

Not wiping the bottle down before you jab a needle into is is a great way to to carry contaminates into the bottle and/or into your body.

I'm glad you're not going to argue because you'd be on the shit end of that stick.

>I'm not even going to explain to you why you're a retard

Please explain. if you really thing you have to worry about main lining test an inch and a half into your thigh, please fucking elaborate how that's even possible.

Don't worry.... I'm not going to hold my breath.
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>>39569728
I just reread my post to even grasp what miniscule thing you're austimoing out about

God forbid I forgot to include wipe pre-insert

You're the most nitpicky little shit ever, answer people's questions yourself or get over it

The video I included covered any miniscule detail I mightve missed text highlighting, kek


And I'm not even touching on that second bit. You're practically asking me "how can you think the sky is blue?"

>durrr wot are bloodvessels ESTP!!! MY QUAD DOESN'T HAVE THEM RETARD!!!
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>>39569781
Rawr
:3
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>>39569815
Honestly am I being baited how is someone that retarded otherwise?
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>>39569823
>how is someone that retarded
Cmon now. This is the internets, we are all geniuses here. =P
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>>39569815
who is this semen demon
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>>39569849
No idea but she looks cold. Would be big spoon and keep warm/10
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>>39569170
Bump for advice
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>>39569781
Since you aren't going to explain yourself... and since physiology is not your strong suite (because you clearly don't understand how the circulatory system works)... let me dig your hole deeper.

First, the actual doctor who showed me how to self administer injections specifically told me aspirating is not necessary. So there's that.

The fact of the matter remains that there are no large blood vessels located an inch and a half inside your thigh muscle, assuming you're injecting in the correct location. If you don't believe me, go ahead and check with the CDC, ACIP, WHO, DoH, AAFP, or DHS and get back with me. Not one of those organizations recommend aspirating.

If those sources aren't good enough for you, what's good enough for me is that I've been pinning twice a week for over 2 1/2 years. That's more than 250 injections. Have I hit veins before? Sure... and it sucks, but those veins are near the surface of the skin, and not problematic if I hit one. Usually I don't know for sure that I hit one until I pull out after the injection.

Call it nitpicking, but injecting foreign substances into your body is not a game. If you give shoddy advice and people are going to correct you.

A for effort though, chief.
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>>39569849
Look in the lower left corner.
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>>39568698
>5 inch by 5 inch

sup
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>>39570028
Your doctor is a literal retard if he thinks the even small risk of injecting oil into your vein is worth not doing something as simple as pulling back a plunger for 2 seconds

I would bet you money the organizations saying not to aspirate aren't taking into consideration that you're using oil based steroids, you monkey

I can also say my endo told me TO aspirate and I've had MY SCRIPT for 6 years. He said- she said bs from you doesn't mean shit. Not to mention an anon whose asking for help how to inject on a vietnamese knitting board may NOT inject in the right area

If someone decides he doesn't want to pull back on his plunger and by some small chance experiences a pulmonary microembolism then that's on him. Can you go years and never have this happen to you? Sure! Does that mean it's impossible? No

You aren't 'correcting' me to try to be educational you kike, you've been spazzing out about any little detail since the beginning

Gonna backtrack and try to tell me your doctor doesn't recommend bandaids so no one should use them, too?

You're not contributing in the slightest, you're just trying to justify your blatant power trip
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>>39570044
>A for effort though, chief.
A what?
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>>39570211
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is it autistic to make a fake facebook (of me ofc) and break the ice with my gym crush by adding her?

i may actually have autism because this sounds like a good idea to me rn
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>>39570273
thats autstic as fuck
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>>39570143
kek'd

>>39570211
I think he meant
A for affort.
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>>39570273
sounds creepy but idk
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>>39570277

how can i trust you?
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>>39570273
Why not use your real jewbook account?
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>>39569319
6' 3
214lbs
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>>39570301

i only have a blank one that I used for Tinder
i was thinking I could just make everything private so she couldn't see how desperate i actually am
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>>39570273
>a fake facebook (of me ofc)
what?

also you have autism... fucking nerd autist fat kid loser. no way you even roid or it would not be possible to have such retarded thoughts

also "gym crush" wow fucking 12 year old fat kids
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>>39570314

the fuck?
don't ever reply to my posts again you autist
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>>39570289
lets analyze through her perspective

some random autist ive never talked to hits me up

beta message
checks profile

NO FRIENDS, NO STATUS

omg hes from my gym, hows he know my name ewww

dropped
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>>39570143

This is the guy with the asian prostitute right? Any more of these?
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>>39570312
OK so stop being autistic and ask her if she wants to hang out sometime and ask her for her number.
>>39570329
This post is 110% what will happen if you don't approach her irl
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>>39570329

hmmm
you make a good point

>>39570353
how do you get to that point though?
do you just walk up to her and immediately ask for her number?
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>>39570352
BREEEEEEEEP
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>>39570146
cut or uncut penis ESTP, does it really matter?

daily reminder that circumcision is bad and removes your most pleasurable zones
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>>39570423
Imho it makes no difference dick is dick. Some chicks might have a preference but eh

Any girl that has an issue to the point of not fucking you based solely on if your dick is cut or uncut is probably not very good in bed anyway and lacks general life experience
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>>39570436
that's good to hear, thanks

unfortunately fucking feels like nothing until I actually orgasm, really wish my parents would've left the decision up to me

anyone else know this feel/know how to fix? dapoxetine only makes it worse (of course) so I'm really at a loss besides shoving shit up my ass, not sure if she'd be alright with that or if it'd just make premature ejaculation a new obstacle

pisses me off more than anything, i wouldn't want my kids to go through this shit

maybe jerry is right, 2d is the answer
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>>39570436
I dated this girl like 10 years ago... was putting actual effort into it. Bitch put her hand down my pants when I wasn't expecting it and wasn't aroused... I could tell she was like "ARGHAHHHH" on the inside. It was awkward as fuck. Usually when girls meet my dick it's already rock hard and you can't even tell. needless to say the cunt promptly broke things off.... no love lost even though she was pretty hot.

i've fucked so many chicks that either didn't know I was cut, or it took them a while to even realize it. I boned my current girlfriend for weeks before she even looked at me while I was limp and was like... "you're not circumcised? I've never been with someone who wasn't" 3 years later she's still lovin' the D.

It's sad that in america we still mutilate our baby boys, and some girls actually grow up thinking this is normal or the way things are actually supposed to be.... lol...
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>>39570436
>>39570436
what about size? asking for a friend.
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>>39570372
>do you just walk up to her and immediately ask for her number?
Lmao no. You say what's up. Tell her your name. Ask her hers. Shake hands maybe if you know how to introduce yourself properly. The just be yourself and tell her why you are talking to her. "Ya know anonette you are just so stunning I couldn't leave without introducing myself to you. Want to get some coffee sometime?"
I dunno man I'm not there to feel the vibe from this girl but just be cool. She is probably super nervous too.
>>39570521
12x12 minimum if you even want to barely begin to pleasure a lady.
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>>39570519
robbing them of 20,000 nerve endings without their consent really isn't fair, especially when we've proven it doesn't prevent diseases, not to mention the loss of sensation from age (as the glans isn't protected by foreskin)

its a shitty fucking tradition now and women either can't tell the difference/only prefer circumcised because of porn

ive also heard the foreskin aids lubrication and is provides a pleasurable "gliding" motion for the female, so now every time i have intercourse it's all i can think about

feels like somethings missing but the other half of me knows im being autistic as fuck

but hell we don't even allow tonsils to be removed from our infants anymore, how is this any more ethical? sex life matters so much when it comes to healthy relationships, and by extension the upbringing of new generations

ill never know what good head is supposed to feel like, the only pleasure i get is from jackhammering her and she really doesnt seem to enjoy that, going soft and slow feels like nothing

just fucks my shit up
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>>39570521
Personally I prefer average over big... I'm pretty small set down there so to speak. When I was escorting there'd be retards who'd boast about having a 9inch+ cock and think that means they shouldn't have to pay.... mean while i wouldn't have fucked them because they're too big even for money -- it's not pleasurable

But some girls are naturally wider set and those are probably the size queens

Tbh most girls I've met feel it's how you use it over size more than anything, though it's not a one answer fits all

Imo guys care more about their size than women do, and again, girls making a huge deal about it (unless you're literal micropenis) probably aren't very experienced
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>>39569170
>Do I need both?
No. Letro is a 1st gen competitive AI, most people use Arimidex (anastrozole) for competitive AI instead.

>Any advice for that?
12 week full blast
reason: why the fuck not

>Do I need nolvadex too?
Not necessarily.
>Or is clomephine enough?
Can be.

Look, clomid and nolva are both SERMs. Sides on clomid are harsher than nolva sides. Clomid is more active at the hypothalamus/pituitary than nolva so it's better for restarting balls. IIRC, nolva is possibly better at preventing gyno that results from rebound estrogen when you end your cycle (due to tissue selectivity properties).

my recommendation: do some reading on reddit r steroids wiki for more details

>>39569823
i really can't tell whether his posts are b8 or not
they are surely autistic

jerry was right, test doesn't cure autism

>>39570146
wait, you had script test?
cool doctor or ...? what medical condition would a woman have that would require a test prescription?

>>39570314
get with the program, roids don't cure autism

>>39570593
>going soft and slow feels like nothing
I've read posts on the sex health threads here where people wish they could have the level of numbness you do in their dick so that they could last longer

always 2 ways to look at a situation
just b urself

>>39570211
everyone missed the genius of this post - SAD!
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>>39570658
Im always right
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>>39570658
>I've read posts on the sex health threads here where people wish they could have the level of numbness you do in their dick so that they could last longer

yeah, this is only appealing until it gets to the point where you're chafing your parter even with excessive lube because sex is lasting way too fucking long, and when you finally climax it only feels good for 6-8 seconds

only having terrible sex 1-2 times a month in a shaky relationship is going to be the end of it, intercourse just isn't fun and the only way for me to make her happy is oral, which again feels like nothing when she reciprocates

guess I'll see my urologist but it doesn't look like theres anything they can do to help

life is suffering
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>>39570658
You just gotta breathe into your balls if you want to last longer.
>>39570787
Sucks breh =/
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>>39570787
try weed?

i'm uncut and so i can't relate to the lack of sensitivity but it makes me much more conscious of all sensations

too bad it's such a shitty drug in many other respects

>>39570800
>You just gotta breathe into your balls if you want to last longer.
interesting visualization - will try!

do roids give you sexual performance gains?
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>>39570273
No, girls are waiting for the guys that approach them irl.

Got to keep practicing and you will get better at it.
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>>39569999
>>39569170
My quads demand an answer damn it
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>>39570593
Estro might be low, I don't feel anything abd last forever.

High estro is amazing and I pop in a min
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>>39570800
>Sucks breh =/
dont circumcise your future sons dude, its genuinely ruining my life. been in a relationship with this girl for 3 years, i'm 29 now

>>39570815
>try weed?
guess I have nothing to lose at this point, she's really conservative and her family has strong views on drugs, would edibles be my best shot? heard they make you throw up easily, but she can't smell it on me and preferably not know i'm blazed

>>39570868
speaking of which, i remember notop mentioning the use of cabergoline to achieve multiple orgasms, was that bullshit or does it actually work? it's fairly cheap here in the US
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>>39570847
i did answer you >>39570658

do you not know how to see replies to your posts?

>>39570890
>edibles
Yeah i associate edibles as a more body-centered high as well so it's especially well suited to your purpose

If you've never done it before do it a few times when she's not around so you get used to the effects. it's not hard at all to act normal on weed but as a novice you can easily fool yourself into thinking you're passing for sober when in reality it's really obvious you're stoned

weed is kinda the worst though, i am very conflicted in recommending it.

i guess you are using it in a very purposeful way, just don't get hooked/dependent on it

>caber
IIRC it reduces your refractory period by a bunch
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>>39570890
>its genuinely ruining my life.
lol You sound like a bitch.
Millions of people have been circumcised and have perfectly normal sex. lol
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>>39570868
>>39570935
i doubt it's my AI since i'm on a cruise of 250test/wk while cutting, but i'll lay off until my nips start nagging me and see if that helps. i've always had to deal with this though, it's just slowly getting worse as i get older

guess I'll pick up some edibles and dianabol to see if either help, might pick up some caber just to fuck around with while i'm at it

thanks to both of you
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>>39571014
>Millions of people have been circumcised and have perfectly normal sex. lol

lol xd you're so right dude. what could possibly go wrong? they fuck up circumcisions all the time and likely took too much off mine, you've never heard of kids losing their dicks from this shit? you know how common it is for tight foreskins to be uncomfortable/hurt during erection and create a turkey neck where the hair follicles are halfway up your fucking shaft?

have you ever wondered why the US has some of the highest divorce rates worldwide? comfortable intercourse is such a fundamental part of every relationship

seriously fuck off
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>>39570815
>interesting visualization - will try!
Dead serious it works. I used to not last long until I started researching breathing exercises. Now I last as long as I want and pretty much have to hold my breath just to nut.
Funny side note after my research and experimentation I now totally understand why people like to be choked during sex lol.
>do roids give you sexual performance gains?
Fuck ya they do. If you are in your early 20's or younger you probably won't notice anything but ya its like being 16 again except now I know wtf I'm doing. ;)
>>39570890
>dont circumcise your future sons dude
Ya I'm pretty strongly leaning this way.
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I'm the guy that came off 750 dnp 6 days ago, getting scared now. Lost 20lbs, been 6 days since my last 750 dose. It looks like so far I lost literally 75% muscle and 25% fat. What the hell...

Maybe I just need to carb up and drop more water...
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>>39571312
Are you saying you think you lost muscle? DNP is very muscle sparing so I'm sure you are fine.
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Jesus fucking christ. All I do is wake up to get food and shitpost while I eat, sleeping 19hours a day. It's been 7days since my last injection, can I just start PCT early or will that fuck shit up.

Got 4 fucking finals next week and it feels exhausting just to put on a blanket and sit at my chair posting on fraud...
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>>39571065
>tfw turkey neck shaft
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>>39571639
You a dummy for coming off right when you have finals. The brain fog is real during PCT.
Seriously consider jumping back on and cruising until your exams are done.
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>>39571680
I have nothing on hand, if I ordered it I would get it after they were over anyway. Unless I steal my friends M/T blend i'm outta luck, but that would be lame cuz ive been off for a week and i'm leaving the country in 3 weeks. IT"S JUST ALL AROUND SHIT

>I get cocaine soon and everything will be tolerable.
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WHAT DO I DO ABOUT MY TURKEY NECK SHAFT?
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>>39571639
Why are you in a chair? Shitpost from under beds on mobile.
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>>39571664
>>39571707
pluck/laser/wax it or look into manual foreskin restoration to lengthen the skin on your shaft, even if you don't go all the way the hair should go back down as you create slack

its been reported to restore the pleasurable gliding motion and some dekeratinization of the glans (the head of your dick is supposed to be a shiny purple hue, not a dried up reddish/pink thing) takes dedication though, there's websites anon

enjoy your new insecurity btw im really happy with mine
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>>39571711
i'm not a savage.

>>39571195
For real though don't circumcise your son, there is 0 reason to. Outside of America/Israel he will be seen as having suffered a mutilation out of his control.

But really the entire conversation boils down to this, "Do you believe in the right to personal autonomy?" If you don't then you can continue to question if you should or not, but if you do believe in that right then you are quite literally doing an irreversible, unneeded, surgery on your son without his consent which carries a risk of disfigurement and a risk of death albeit very very low.

I truly get a chortle out of the fact that people's children have died from circumcision when it is a totally needless surgery. How must that feel for them I wonder.
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>>39571698
What PCT drugs are you planning to use? Nolvadex and clomid made it impossible to focus on anything.
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>>39571788
Nolva 40/40/20/20 with AI thrown in @ random. Last time I tried clomid the sides were pure insanity and I wanted to blow my brains out.
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z track or air lock?
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>>39571195
>>39571775
this is the least retarded thing melan has posted in a long while

the foreskin is there for a reason and if you do research, britain published urology studies on circumcision and found it does way more harm than good

if your son wants to snip a large portion of his dick off later in life, let him do it

>>39571823
both if you're paranoid, but ztrack is generally enough

i do both when i'm injecting a proportionately large amount of oil into a site, but if you're injecting glutes you're fine with either
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNpjCFSkZw

REEEEE

back from trying to redpill normies on imgur with more posting. hows everbodies night ?
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>>39571833
I'm huge into dick rights senpai. In my eyes there is literally not a single reason to circumcise a girl or boy, and the whole aesthetics argument in this country is fucking sickening. The simple fact that people in the US see clitoral hood trimming as mutilation and yet a benign procedure for boys is disgusting.

I've had this argument with girls who didn't even realize i'm uncut because they only ever see my boner. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid and irreversible.

Also there are some arguments for a rewiring of the child's brain in response to the surgery in regards to handling pain more poorly in the future.

http://time.com/3827167/this-is-a-babys-brain-on-pain/
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>>39571775
>>39571833
What are the risks of uncircumcised? Just dick cheese if you are a nasty mofo who doesn't shower?
>>39571882
>I'm huge into dick rights
Lmao. LET US MARCH ON WASHINGTON!

Brehs how do I get someone to cover my shift. This qt3.14 just asked me to come to some Christmas party charity shit on Saturday but I'm supposed to fucking work...
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>>39571924
Bruh, i've gone camping in the woods for 2 weeks and i've never seen this mystical dickcheese.

Are you planning on raising your son without access to a shower/water though?

Literally no risks outside of phimosis, which in the UK(rest of the world) is fixed by doing a small surgical cut along the foreskin, not the total removal of it. However, phimosis requiring surgery is an extreme rarity and can usually be solved by tellin ur kid to just work on tuggin that shit back while he's havin fun with himself on the daily.
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>>39571882
>just muscular reactions

y-yeah, that's why they scream and flail, and need to be strapped down spread-eagle before circumcision can be performed without anasethesia

"is 20k nerve endings (the majority of your erogenous and protective tissue) really going to matter? it looks better after all!"

so fucking stupid, plus most women prefer uncut if you actually do any research whatsoever

there was a push to ban it in san francisco but was shut down because it "infringed on religious groups" such as jews and muslims, so somehow that justifies everything

>>39571924
>What are the risks of uncircumcised? Just dick cheese if you are a nasty mofo who doesn't shower?
yup, that's it. you have to let it get really bad, like showering once a week/month bad. it's just shedded skin
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are we talking about dicks?

Mine has this piece of flesh that connects from the foreskin to the head, its like a little bridge. I can put shit in the hole and my dick will hold on to it.
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>>39571978
There was also a push to ban it in denmark and iiii believe norway, and jews threw a fucking shit fit.

If jews are going to be given an exemption at fucking all it should be when their children turn 13 and are a man by their beliefs. At that point the child should get cut by his own decision.
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>>39571989
It's called frenulum, perfectly normal.
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>>39571990
at least at that age they could leave part of your frenulum behind so you wouldn't lose so much sensitivity, whereas at birth/8 days after, it's torn/destroyed and never grows properly

there was also a studies that revealed circumcised penises were smaller than their natural counterparts on average, theorized that "tightly cut" (as there's no dotted line for the surgeon to cut, or know for sure there's enough slack for development) prevents the dick from growing properly, who fucking knew
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>>39572042
>americans think this is more aesthetic
jesus fucking christ
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>>39572042
Sick you could get mini hot wheels and do sick jumps off that bridge
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>>39572049
>>39572064

Not my dick.

But I can put a pin lid in it.
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>>39571989
>I can put shit in the hole and my dick will hold on to it.
Ahhh 4chan. Truly a magical place.
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>>39572117
>crossing the penis bridge
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>>39572128
Like your pic says, it's a skin bridge. Somehow I got somewhat lucky and the doctor that circumcised me did it very loose and I can still roll my foreskin up onto the head and he left nearly the entire frenulum.
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>>39572212

Pardon the autism but why didn't you crop the girl on the right out

Girl on left

>taller
>wider hips
>thinner
>prettier face
>longer legs
>narrower shoulders

girl on right

>looks like typical 6.5/10 girl you see all day every day

How is she a model
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>>39569849
Her name is Lauren Drain. She use to be a part of the Westboro Baptist Church ironically. She's actually chill af.
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>>39572242
blond face and decent legs

but hips are god tier
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Order DNP but now scare shitless thanks to random youtube videos. Fucking hell
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>>39572251
Whaaaaa? Was she really in that cult?
Yep just googled it. Wtf...
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>>39572297
fuck

I need to get back in shape. I need to fuck a fit girl.
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brehs!

I'm in my 5th week of my first Test-E cycle.

Had to take 1 week off training due to a flu. Can pick up training again today.

How fucked am I?
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>>39572323
We are all gonna make it breh.
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>>39572297
breh
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>>39572331
I've been banging T H I C C chicks for a while. There is this one gym bunny that is like 6'3" and she's got that fit bod. Trying!
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>>39572297
muh dick

hows your investments going?
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>>39572284
its gonna cook u from the inside out hwhite boi

pic unrelated
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>>39572284
DNP is pretty safe. Keep anti-histamines on hand. Allergic reactions usually come for me only once I'm done with the cycle and last for a few days and Zyrtec takes care of that.
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>>39570935
I saw your reply was just hoping for a few more. So all I need is exemetase and clomephine? (Spell check) I wanna get on the gain train ASAP
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>>39569170
Arimidex on cycle, Clomid post cycle.

Dosage is a bit of a hit and miss. I run Arimidex 0.5 mg E3D on cycle, I could probably even lower it, but I don't want to deal with gyno, ever.

Don't go too high with clomid, especially at your age. I'm 10 years older than you and my balls don't recover as fast, so I take 100mg ED during the first two weeks, you might get away with 50mg.

The clomid rage is real. Keep it as low as you can.
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>>39572331
>efukt shirt
i think im in love
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>>39571802
>clomid the sides were pure insanity and I wanted to blow my brains out
Please elaborate on what you meant by this

I am glad I listened to /fraud/ and chose the b&c path but would like to know what i'm in for if I need to get off

>>39572480
read the reddit r steroids wiki man

yeah you can do clomid only but supposedly it's better to mix with nolva

you really should just b&c ffs
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>>39570610
estp when we getting hitched? its gotta be soon and you have to change your name.

>>39571462
cap you still smashing the slots of life?

>>39571639
mel post some redheads hey i just realized your trip rhymes mental as m8

>>39571854
wokeaf right now tell us more

>>39567379
mast when we getting hitched cobber? you have to change your name and kill estp btw just a heads up m8
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>>39572762
Just depressed, no energy, moodswings and brain fog to the point I was forgetting if I had even eaten the same day. But ya really brought back the depression hard.

All other times ive done PCT with nolva only i don't get anything other than feeling tired as fuck. Day 3 now of not even leaving this bed and chair.
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>>39572912
ffuuuuarrrkkkkin trip kunt buggery fuck prick kunt fucking shithouse kunt fuck
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Just went to store for dinner and came back home with shampoo because I forgot why I was there. Now it's closed and i'm too tired to go back out.

I want to be a warning to all who think the cycle life is a thing.
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>>39573147
I feel you man

traveling is a life ruiner
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>>39573147
well if you cycled to the shop you might've had time to get back there in time

fewd fa fort
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>>39572357
>There is this one gym bunny that is like 6'3"
That's a whole lot of woman lmao.
>>39572368
Silver is still in the shitter and I'm still buyin!
>>39572912
>cap you still smashing the slots of life?
I'm not sure what you mean? I'm chillin though. Hopefully going out on Saturday with this legit 10 I have been working on for like 6 months lol.
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>>39573446
mint job cuz make sure you tarp up your old fella with a franger and do the naughty on that map of tassie m8 proud as peaches
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>>39573441
i drove ya goof.
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>>39573806
you didnt drive my goof coz its still locked up in the garage m8
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>tfw week 9 500 tren a
>suicidal thoughts are starting to come in
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Norway low-test fag here

Talked to a doc and the way they look at if you need treatment is that use the following formula

(Total Testosterone X 10) / SHBG value

This was to find "free testosterone", I think.

So even if my test comes back really low, my SHBG value could ruin it. What do you guys think that can be done about it?
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>>39572242
I saved it and was too lazy to, but yeah I agree.
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bump

>>39574127
hmm google it, you prolly wont get any help with that.
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>>39575006
You're on 250mg test right? For how long?
I plan on hopping on when I turn 20 in 2 months but I'm kind of stuck deciding whether I want to go on 500mg for 16 weeks or 250mg for 20-24 weeks. I see there is no point to rush into things and I can take it slow
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>>39575076
Im not cycling.

I did 250mg for 2 months just to see how it feels like, what the gains are, if i get sides etc.

1 week ago i started 500mg and will be on it for 4 months, before i drop to my 250mg cruise again.

Do 500mg for 16 weeks, you will get more out of it.
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>>39575130
Did you need any AI at that dosage? I know people who don't need an AI at 750mg but also people who need 25mg asin e3d at 250mg
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>>39575157
I cant tell you that. Exspecially because i started just 1 week ago

I just started taking 5mg asin EoD right at the beginning, instead of waiting for sides.

I dont know if i would get gyno or stuff without the Ai, because im taking the Ai right away as a preventive measure.

Heck even if an Ai isnt needed, 5mg EoD wont kill me and it wont crash my e2.
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>>39572762
>b&c
I'm 21 going on 22 I want kids some day
>>
I see people ITT recommending Arimidex over aromasin... why is that? I thought aromasin was better?
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>>39575292
>roids causes infertility meme
Yeah like Coleman, Schwarzenegger, Dimitry Klokov, Lu xiaojun and the other few hunderd thousands that were/are perma blasting don't have any kids. Oh wait

>>39575326
Preference, but asin doesn't have estrogen rebound so it's less of a hassle
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>>39575292
>le permanent shutdown meme

kek
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>>39575363
>>39575361
>raising your wife's son and not knowing it
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>>39575361
Adex is also worse for lipids
And much cheaper
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What do you think about 23g 1" for eod Test P injections? Or alternatively 30g 5/8" SLIN and injecting ed? Did my Test E inject today with a slin one, 1cc, in my quad and had no real issue except for it being slower.

Would scar tissue build up be a problem in 1st case? I'm not able to get any smaller needles, except for the slin ones.
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>>39575655
>30g works perfectly fine

what reason do you have then to use 23g?
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>>39575742
30g
- Max of 1ml per inject eg. either inject ED (slight inconvinience) or 2 injects eod due to planned volume.
- Worried about possibly not getting deep enough / Only 5/8" long and I primarily inject into quads
- Higher risk of bending/breaking

Basically those reasons. And a bit worried about the chance of injecting subq, just since the slower absorption would mess with the whole point of ED injections right? Maybe I should just stfu and pin with the 30g, and add more sites into the rotation, delts/chest etc?
>>
if I "miss" my VG i'm still injecting into some muscle right? I would feel it if it were subq or osmething?
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am on test e 500mg a week, starting to get slight gyno. (sensitive nippies)

Should i just pop 10mg nolva ed until its gone?
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>>39575814
Ed pins I try to get 8 sites

I wouldnt worry about breaking so much, ive literally bent slin pins 90degrees in my delts before

>>39575823
Youd know if it was subq
Ball of oil floating around under your skin
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>>39575823
no chance its subq.

if the pin hurts real bad then you might have pierced a vein but are still in the muscle.

if you'd hit a nerve by god you would know.
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>>39575862
>nolva as Ai

How about you get Asin and pop 5mg EoD instead?
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>>39575936
yes thats the problem, no asin on hand. only nolva.
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>>39575945
nolva doesn't get rid of estrogen, all it does is stop it from binding at the receptors

so let's say you do get rid of your gyno after a couple weeks of nolva ed... then you stop and you just grow tits again

why don't you have an AI on hand you fuck
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>>39575963
yeah i know its bad but i couldn't get my hands on asin.
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>>39575945
That is not a problem.
That is your problem
It is your fault.
You started a steroid cycle without Ai on hand.

And now you are in a dilemma and you cant do anything about it.
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>>39575980
i have enough nolva to ride out until the end of the cycle.
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>>39575975
well either get some (or adex) or live with taking nolva every day for the rest of your cycle
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>>39575992
how much adex? what dosage? never used this stuff only asin and nolva/clomid.
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I'm 20, weigh like 215 at 6'2 around 18% BF lifting like 1.5years I know I'm nowhere near time to start cycling but I was curious about when a good time to start a first cycle is? Just curiosity
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If I cycle and then cruise at 19 what are the chances I will become infertile?

Can that infertility be fixed by hCG?
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>>39576026
ur body is ready.

would wait till ur 21

>>39576028
>le infertility meme
>again
you wont become infertile, but you will potentially fuck your shit up (your hormones) in other possible ways.

dont do steroids at 19
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>>39576054
Is 21 ready? When I was 18, everyone told me wait til 21. Now that I'm 21, seems like the opinion changed to 25.
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>>39576117
uhm 25 would prolly be 100% safest age to do it.

But why the fuck would you waste your best years (20-25) on being a dyel faggot manlet.

I want to be big now, not in 5 years.

If you are 21, start.
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>>39576117
maybe by 25 you'll grow out of the insecurities and closet homo fratboy tendencies that make you want to juice
don't get me wrong I'm not a natty fag, but hopping on gear to get more STD ridden tinder pussy is really pathetic and sad

>>39576131
>But why the fuck would you waste your best years (20-25)
fucking lel
you must be a huge loser if those really were your best years, almost as bad as those fags who keep reminiscing about high school in their 40s
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>>39576165
Those werent my best years, because i didnt experience them yet. I am 21

Im sorry, not everyone can be as chad and alpha as you.

Going to VIP parties and fucking hookers at 12yo.
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>>39573892
week 4 on 200 tren E
the lack of sleep, erectile disfunciton and ses drive is real.
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>>39576165

Ay Arjen Robben is g

Anyway, I moved to Deutschland, and I was wondering if there's any law that would make it easier to get gear here or in surrounding countries. Any Deutschbros here?
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>>39576345
no, its illegal.

just be happy the customs are not as harsh as in norway or australia.

if you buy from a EU source, ur g2g.
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>>39569170
Personally I like the idea of tapering off to limit sides of hormone fluctuations.

In theory another point would be to succeed in creating a more smooth transition from being on cycle to being off cycle and back on endogenous test.(I don't know if this was your plan?) the thing is it would only make sense for this purpose if you taper even lower than your endogenous level (=30-50mg/w)would have been. So up to 25 mg/w. That would be pretty difficult to accomplish correctly. And its only speculation if it would really work.

>If you want a more smooth transition instead I would suggest the following regimen:
-get a bottle of 2000IU HCG.
-Test: run 10-12 weeks full blast (just make sure you have enough and decide on this during your cycle)
-For the last 2 weeks go to 200mg/w then 100mg/week (so week 13&14 or week 11&12).
-Run 400IU HCG/w for the last 4 weeks of your cycle and 1 more week after your last test injection. (So you either start at week 8 or 10). Inject 200IU twice weekly subcutaneous.
-start PCT 1 week after your last HCG injection.
-don't forget to adjust your AI to a lower amount of test those last weeks.
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>>39576054
How exactly will it mess up my hormones?
Wouldn't cruising fix any issue like that?
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>>39571462
Yeah that's what i'm saying, because I have basically the same definition but lost 1.25-1.5 inches on my arms, i look way less muscular and only a little more defined. I guess I am still just dropping water and still flat as hell (been eating under maintenance, thought i was maintaining but forgot to account for how much DNP i still have in my system even almost a week later)
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Is there a point in carbing up after a harsh cut if you are not blasting but only on a small cruise? Don't wanna get fat again. How would you guys do it?
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>>39576568
How would you transition off a year+ long cruise?
>>39576590
Carb up breh!
>>39576672
A carb refeed only lasts two days tops. Usually one day is enough. Hope you can manage to not get fat in one day.
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>>39576568
Esters naturally taper
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Lmao
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>>39573446
>That's a whole lot of woman lmao.

And her body is fucking amazing. Her face, average. Her legs are fucking muscular and she has an ass.
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>1st for augmentin/bactrim antiobiotic shits

y-you t-too lads.
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>>39576858
kill yourself retard
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g-guys... if i am getting bad PIP that's happening a week after injecting (was fine at first), what does that mean?

Oh and MAGA awooooo!
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>>39577766
Hot, swollen, red, hard?
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>>39577840
Yeah that's it. Doesn't feel "spongey" like I've heard an abscess described.
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>>39577840
>swollen

T R I G G E R E D
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>>39572920
Fuck that sounds like shite. Why not just do nolva+HCG?

TRT doc said that he doesn't prescribe clomid to anyone, just give em HCG a few weeks before they want to come off and keeps them on (tapering down later if they want to be completely drug free). Doesn't prescribe nolva because apparently he doesn't go over 150-200mg/week for his patients so rebound estro is not a big issue.

>>39573806
You really have to get on /pol/ or any board with flags more often - aussie bants/shitposting are on another level

>>39575215
>5mg asin EoD right at the beginning, instead of waiting for sides
pharma? How'd you split a 25mg pill into 5mg? Very interested in this - would like to do the same when I hop on in a week

>>39575814
>Worried about possibly not getting deep enough / Only 5/8" long and I primarily inject into quads
How is 5/8" not deep enough?

>>39576835
This was my understanding too, which is why I recommended the guy to blast 12 weeks

>>39576568
I really enjoy your posts - you aren't here too often but I always get new knowledge/ideas from when you post
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>>39577718
Wut
>>
Anyone here happen to be in the natty guard? I was cruising while active but hopped off for the last 6 months before I ETSd, and in true cuck form I decided I haven't had enough army and signed a contract with the guard.

They piss test every month which I get and I know gear doesn't show up in piss (or at least nobody cares?). We've got ftx in the guard though which I'm sure I can't bring and use any gear for.

I really want to be back on, but for things where say, we're doing a month ftx or a week of some bullshit for the inauguration, I'm not sure about keeping steady with my doses.

Am I doomed to 6 years of natty?
>Tfw you realize why it's called the natty guard
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>>39578457
Can someone who has experienced independence in living/action/etc (i.e. normal salary job and freedom that comes with it) be happy if they career change to army or air force? Seems like you have to really get in young to shape your personality to make it appealing.

I have a hard enough time taking shit from clients, I can't imagine having a whole bureaucracy and chain of command controlling my life
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>>39578502
It's really not bad but you need a bottom line attitude and willingness to really work, and love of pt of course.

I've become somewhat depressed lately, civilian life is boring and I really can't make myself care about my civilian job as much as I did with army bullshit. Even though for all intents and purposes, the military is bullshit, but, it's my favorite kind of bullshit. Lots of good friends, good work, decent benefits.

In my day to day life I notice that nobody but veterans have this developed attitude of being able to relax and just take it easy despite the amount of stress pilled up on them, that's one thing I miss. A lot of people let little niggling details fuck their whole day up.

I could wax poetic all day but I need to go and exercise and then get beer and start sourcing some gear
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>>39577607
>Her legs are fucking muscular and she has an ass.
Probably long and sexy af too. Last girl I dated had legs for days. Mmmm that was some good pussy.
>>39578223
Cellulitis. Happened to me once. Get some doxycycline.
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>>39578590
Awesome post - appreciate you taking the time to elaborate.

>my favorite kind of bullshit. Lots of good friends, good work, decent benefits.
Yeah, this is what I figured. It's probably fucking lame but you get real bonds with bros that makes it worthwhile, also the whole serving your country aspect that is severly hard to find in civilian jobs for the most part.

>bottom line attitude
When you get back, explain what this means? Is it referring to:

>being able to relax and just take it easy despite the amount of stress pilled up on them
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>>39578290
kek

post body
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>>39578658
what's with your obsession with everyone's body dude

how gay are you
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>>39578702
im curious, because i dont know how they look like

as simple as that anon.
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>>39578727
You don't have to know. Stop gauging yourself against others.
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>>39578778
yes i have to know, urgently.

>gauging others

wa
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>>39578793

>>39578443
>How'd you split a 25mg pill into 5mg?

pls respond
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>>39578804
i have 10mg tabs, so i just break them in halph. UGL asin


crush it with a spoon or something into powder.

divide the powder evenly into 5 "parts". try to weigh it, to be accurate.

25 / 5 = 5

thats autistic as fuck tho
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>>39578443
Slow as fuck
>5/8" Not deep enough

Well since basically everyone is using 1 - 1.5" needles, and I've heard you need to get deep enough into the muscle. But yeah I'm not a fatty, so it'll work out I guess
>>
age: 20
weight: 385
height: 5'3"
time spent lifting: 0
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>>39578622
Bottom line attitude meaning you just get it done, when it comes down to it, in my experience with the army at least, when it comes to your job it pretty much just needs to get done.

I notice a lot of stress in people's lives over idiotic things, especially at work. Yes I believe in doing a good job, but it just seems like people get hung up and stressed out over the worst things. It might just be a perspective that comes from really seeing some shitty work conditions and letting it roll off your back and laughing about it with your friends, but hearing someone complain about the stupid things they let bother then just makes me wish I was back on some base or on some fob.

I think it comes from being in situations where you're pressed to your limit (not necessarily combat related) and then having everything else be gray and dull in comparison
>>
Which oral is best if I wanted to do a small dosage?
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>>39579176
My dick
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>>39579176
Like per mg strongest?
Mtren
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>>39578871
>>39578804

Or just crush the pill and dissolve it. Volumetric dosing is the most accurate way
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>>39579206
I meant in terms of using low amounts of a steroid.
I don't want to do a full cycle, I just want to dip my feet in slightly...
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>>39578443
Nice to hear someone remembers me.
Yeah I'm pretty busy these days, I rarely browse on weekdays but in the weekends i usually lurk around and sometimes post.
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>>39579215
Oh
Really injecting test is best + least harmful
Oral only still crashes test
With maybe s few exceptions...but if you dont want to pin youre not ready for roids
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>>39579215
are you fucking retarded. dont ever do an oral only cycle. it is utterly retarded, you will fuck your liver up and your hormones for zero gains.

why dont you just do a test e 250mg/e3.5d cycle like everyone else.
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>>39576835
Everything tapers naturally the point of smaller doses is to spread out the tapering even more.
>>39576733
That's a lot harder. The low dose HCG works so well on short cycles because the Leydig cells in the testis stay very responsive. I haven't read up much on recovery after prolonged duration. Most important differences would be the need for much higher HCG dose and a prolonged PCT regimen with Clomid and nolva. As for exact dosages and duration I can't give you a clear answer because I haven't read into that (or experience with that).
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>>39579247
how's your leg doing jerrbear, you back on that svveet tren yet?
>>
So I'm taking pharma grade letro and I'm on 600mg test e a week and 50mg of dbol ED and I'm having to take 5mg of letro to stop acne and gyno. WHATTHEFUCK?
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>>39579086
Why you gotta post my stats like that breh...
>>39579286
Plan is 20 weeks of hcg 500iu e3d then drop test and normal nolva/clomid pct. Just wanted your thoughts.
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>>39579363
That's 5mg ed just to clarify
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>>39579296
>vv
No i cant run yet
And the surgery git me fat so I have to xut before i bulk
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>>39579403
Drunk jerry is best jerry!
>>
looking for anecdotal experiences from people who have used dbol

how different was your AI usage on dbol + 500mg week vs only 500mg week

I've done test only before and I did 12.5mg asin e3d, wondering how bad it's gonna get with a 40mg dbol ed kickstarter for my second cycle
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>>39579416
Howd you know

>>39579471
Dbol comverts to oestradiol
Very potent estrogen
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>>39579601
that's not what looking for anecdotal experiences means
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>>39579403
>And the surgery git me fat so I have to xut before i bulk

im sure its not that bad, you're all hairy and cute like a big cuddly bear

nno homo
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>>39579633
Its fucking stronger cause its a different stronger type pf eztro
What you wabt

Ai is so subjective it doesnt matter be prepared to take 2-3x the ai
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>>39579646
how is anecdotal experience a confusing term to you
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>>39579660
What do you thnk that last paragraph is

>how fast is my car
>wtf whyd you tell me how fast your car was!!!???!@

Go die
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>>39568471
>>thinks there are different testosterones.

Pls don't roid.
>>
>>39579646
Test converts to estradiol as well.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase
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>>39579703
Look up dbols conversion
Its much more direct
>>
>>39579675
you literally didn't offer any anecdotal experience, you said something completely random not relating to you or anyone

how drunk are you
>>
Different skin, but the concensus seems to be that if using dbol in this example cycle
>wk1-14 test e 250 e3d
>wk1-6 dbol 25 ed

You need adex every day? More?
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>>39579601
>Howd you know
Magic mostly. I'm actually a virgin and gained my wizard status a few years ago. It's bretty cool but it's lonely being this much of a bamf all the time.
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>>39579722
Ok i was taking test
Then i took dbol and had to take 2-3x the ai

happy?

Jesus
And very

But ai varies so much
Like
Damn
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Customs must be stopped up from Thanksgiving because they still haven't cleared my damn hcg, dick pills, and armoda.

>>39579377
Yeah something is wrong. That is way too much, get bloods. What brand is the letro?
>>
>>39579758
I got a package this monday and was shipped sat.

And I know someone else who who jaf a quick recent package too
>>
Can anyone tell me about PCT after a long cruise of low doses?
I haven't started yet, but I'll be pursuing self-administered TRT (transitioning into a cruise dose (250mg/wk or so) eventually) in the near future.
The Reddit wiki TRT PCT suggestion only has clomid, and those sides are spooky. Could I just get away with having just nolva as my "just-in-case" PCT?
>>
>>39579758
Accord all in date and shit will get bloods done this week actually I completely forgot about the option
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>>39579765
International though? I know I got a pack from PPL 3 days after purchase which was insane but that was like 2 months ago.
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>>39579983
One from hk, mine from Malaysia

Both came through east customs though
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>>39580003
Damn. Hopefully it clears soon because I'm almost out of hcg and muh balls gonna shrink.
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>>39580020
why do you care
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>>39580020
Be good for your leygigs
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>>39580086
So whatcha drinkin?
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>>39580393
Gin, vodka, whiskwy, rumchata
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>>39580393
Oh a littloop cider
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>>39580020
any more of that girl in stockings?
>>
>>39579129
Fuck, if this isn't a convincing argument for mandatory military service I don't know what is.

Thanks for the insight. Don't know if I'll be able to make the jump but it's interesting to know the sort of transformation it can produce.
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>>39580448
>>39580453
Stop mixing all the things lmao. You are gonna get sick.
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>>39580659
Come and stop me fagit
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>>39580896
Shit I would party with you if I could although I have been good and haven't drank in a week...
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Im probably going to get ass blasted for this question but;
I am planning on doing babbys first cycle of test next year but before I do, I want to cut down to about 12% bodyfat which is going to take me a few months due to finishing up my 8 month dreamer bulk. While cutting I plan to run some ostarine to hopefully make my cut a little bit more enjoyable and keep my strength and muscle so I am wondering if it would be a good Idea to skip the pct and start pinning instead?
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>>39580969
Ive had atleat 1/3 a liter ed +a few beers ed for a few weeks
I need to stop
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>>39581049
You don't need pct for ostarine.
>>39581062
>Ive had atleat 1/3 a liter ed +a few beers ed for a few weeks
>I need to stop
I know this feel. You just gotta get excited about the shreds.
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>>39581102
In ~a month I can cut 5 then in 3-4 pmsf I can bulk


Oh boy
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>>39581256
Holy fuck 3-4 MONTHS of psmf? I would shoot myself.
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