Sugar-free products stop us getting slimmer. http://www.dw.c

just stop being a faggot and dont consum shitloads of sugary or sugar free shit its not that fucking hard

>>39532096
OP here,
*I* don't, but too many denizens of /fit/ think that they're doing themselves some sort of huge favor by drinking sugar-free sodas, and this says they're actually sabotaging themselves. *I* drink WATER and LIKE it, and fatasses trying to lose weight should also be drinking nothing but based WATER and liking it, too. But I'm also posting this because opinionated faggots of /fit/ have been saying for years that aspartame doesn't have any bad side effects, and this study clearly shows that it does.

I don't think anyone shitposting on /fit/ has much to contribute about very recent biomedical research like this. That being said, I think a lot of people would be healthier and happier if they would give up trying to find bullshit loopholes like sugar-free sweets and just eat good diets that don't require this shit.

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Better to just drink beverages with sugar and limit consumption. What Ive been doing is drinking fruit juice with like half a cup of juice and the rest filled with water. Tastes great and doesnt have all that much calories

>>39532088
eh, I only use stevia and erytrytol. we knew aspartame was shit for a long time now.

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>>39532088
I just use honey for almost everything.
I just fucking love honey.

>>39532088
I've outright stated multiple times that simple table sugar is in every way superior to every bit of fake sugar in most foods, most notably diet foods, for years.

>>39532152
I used to do this with added ice cubes
thought i was the only one

>>39532178
You were wrong.
Sugar is empty calories and fucks up your teeth.
Fake sugar is harmless.

"Holy shit, injecting aspartame into mice stomachs is terrible! Scientists missed that is breaks down into phenylalanine!"

"Good sources of phenylalanine are eggs, chicken, liver, beef, milk, and soybeans.[5] Other sources include spinach and leafy greens, tofu, amaranth leaves, and lupin seeds."

It is found in literally the top foods everybody should be eating.

In short, this article by itself does not prove a single thing. Changing your diet based on this article would be stupid.

>>39532767
Shut up, faggot.

>>39532152
i LOVE diet coke diluted in water, that's the only soda i drink, i probably drink a glass or two a week but man that's enough to get my soda fix.

>mfw my dyel friends laugh at me for diluting diet coke in water whenever we hang out

>>39532088
Good god, is this my ticket out of auschwitz?

>>39532177
This

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>>39532088
Fake sugar is garbage that fucks up your insulin response, and could possibly cause diabeetus. I made the switch from sugar free back to real sugars. Still fat, didnt gain any wieght from real sugar. Just count the calories and show some restraint. Go back to real sugar. Artificial sweeteners are garbo

>>39532767
>Sugar is empty calories and fucks up your teeth.
>Fake sugar is harmless.

I never said that it was harmless.
But you stating that fake sugar is harmless is outright motherfucking retarded at best and unbelievably reckless endangerment at worst.

You're either a shill or the dumbest waste of spunk on the planet.

>>39532122

i got abs as a skinnyfat solely by changing from coke to coke zero

stop taking oversimplified clickbait study results and assuming black/white results from them

>>39533134
>Fake sugar is garbage that fucks up your insulin response

literally proven to not fuck with blood sugar. If that was the case diabetic people would die out in a week

>>39533134
Never seen any convincing evidence that this is true.

I could see a potential for fake sugar fucking up the gut biome, but the insulin thing is 100% speculation at this point

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>>39533173
It could be just as bad as a lifetime of pounding junk food. Some artificial sweeteners are worse for your insulin than others, but theyre all still garbo. How can you have something that claims to have zero calories? Sound to good to be true? 555-come-on-now

>Some artificial sweeteners are worse for your insulin than others

>makes a claim
>"there is no evidence that claim is true"
>repeats same claim without providing evidence

>>39533208
>How can you have something that claims to have zero calories

See how much fat you gain from eating a tub of plastic. Besides, even if it has some calories Its very unlikely that people are fat BECAUSE of the sugar free stuff.

>>39532088
>eat high fat surplus energy diet + water
>become fat with high blood glucose

>eat high fat surplus energy diet + aspartame
>become slightly more fat with slightly higher blood glucose

Whelp, guess I gotta start drinking SIPS with real sugar not sweeteners

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>>39533208
Yeah, i dont see how anything good for you could have 0 calories

>>39532088
of course they do!
ever notice that the only people drinking diet drinks or calorie free drinks are all overweight

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>>39533256
Im sure there is evidence out there. Go look for it ya diet drink shill

>>39533138

Aspartame is more studied than any other food substance, and still it is considered harmless by every nation's food agency.

Who knows, perhaps there is something wrong with it. Perhaps some wise man will discover this in the future. If there is anything wrong with it, thought, it will be VERY minor, or all the constant studies and the hundreds of millions/billions of people who drink it in the real world would have clearly shown something is wrong with it.

Unlike sugar, which is widely known to fuck up your teeth and provide empty calories.

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>>39532088
I really fired you fags up tonight! Keep drinking your diet shill sips. Ill be having the ones that actually taste good. I actually love this one. 40g of cane sugar. My fav sips

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>>39533519
Its so true

>>39533469

OK, sure. Some people like Big Macs, too. Just they usually don't go on to fitness website to talk about it.

>post random shit from fuck knows where
>discuss

no, fuck you.

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>>39533606
You must have missed the extensive McDouble bulking discussions that regularly occur here.

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>>39533606
>fitness website
This is 4chan ya dingus

>>39532767
>sugar is empty calories
>protein is empty calories
>fat is empty calories
>vitamines are empty minerals
>minerals are empty vitamines

>>39535302

You forgot alcohol is empty calories and electromagnetic radiation is empty energy.

But what about sucralose or stevia?

>>39535354
The point of fake sugar is that while you eat it, it tastes sweet.
So your brain think it's eating sugar and prepares the body for glukos socialism.

But there are no one to wear the billion shoes in siberia.

It didn't stop me. I lost about 40kg while drinking a lot of sugar free sodas every day and using sweetener on my coffees and such.

>>39535353

No Anon, you just need to activate your almonds.

>>39532088
Oh boy, another scare article to read. Thanks, OP, for your high quality submission.

>>39532096
This basically sums up why people who use sugar free sweeteners tend to be fat. They're people who know they have a problem but are too lazy to actually change their habits and try to find cop outs.

>>39532088

you're an idiot, your genetics are terrible, and your parents should he ashamed for having had you

>>39532088
Bullshit. Been consuming absolute zero sippies and coke zero my whole cut and the zero calories are just that. Fuck outta here.

>>39533172
But are you still alive?

>>39537057
But are you still alive?

>>39536768
But are you still alive?

There has yet to be any convincing science showing artificial sweeteners are bad for you in any way. In contrast, refined sugar has been shown to be terrible in even moderate amounts. Pure unadulterated honey is ok, but if you hear it then it loses many of its beneficial properties so you can't cook with it or put it in hot beverages without it essentially being sugar.

Best decision I made /fit/ wise was getting pure, generic sucralose granules off of amazon. The little baggy will last me months, if not a year or more, and I can sweeten my tea and protein smoothies without adding 150+ kcal of sugar to my diet.

>>39532767
liver and soybeans are garbage foods good for nothing

>>39537351
Liver is great health wise as long as you're not one of those idiots that thinks more is better and eats half a pound of it a day. Tastes atrocious unfortunately, even if those nutrients are great.

Soybeans are terrible though, no argument there.

>>39532088
>its another episode of "I am above 20 years old and I still cant grow up enough to forgo candies and candy flavors because I am such a huge faget, thus I will spend an incredible amount of energy and effort to try to get a less toxic candy thing for myself"

>>39532088
Imagine the weight gain in the individuals who would use actual sugar if they didn't have zero calorie substitutes.

>>39532096

>don't consume sugary things
>also don't consume not sugary things

>>39532088
I'm sure if I ate 400 calories below maintenance and drank diet soda it would prevent me from getting slimmer.

fucking retards on here.

>>39532088

Sweetener MIGHT be bad for you.
Sugar is definitely bad for you.
Bitter/bland foods taste like asshole.

:Looks like sweetener for me.

>>39537389
I imagined it, its zero pounds.

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>>39532088
I cant understand why all of you fags are defending artificial sweeteners so murch.
QUIT BIENG A PUSSY ANONS
RIPPER SIPPER REPORTING IN

>>39538152

Why is sugar bad for you? Every carbohydrate you eat gets broken down into sugar.

>>39538237
Why is morphine bad for you? Every heroin you eat gets broken down into morphine.

>>39538253

So complex carbs are heroin? This is a strange analogy.

>>39532088
>nutritionists
DROPPED

>>39532088
>chemical waste is no good
what a shocker

>>39533208
>How can you have something that claims to have zero calories? Sound to good to be true?
because its basically water and shit that our body can't digest, try to eat grass, you can eat 10lbs of grass everyday and you won't get fat, because our body can't digest grass like cows and your mom can

>when we inject a hyperphysiological concentration of a food additive directly into the duodenum of rats, it fucks their shit up!

Boy who would have guessed.

>>39533138
Stevia is a plant.

>>39532088

Sounds like some bad news for aspartame, but I haven't heard anything bad about xylitol or erythritol (what I use) yet

All I use it for is to sweeten tea

I literally spend like 20$ on calorie free sweeteners per month and they help me a lot with not overeating
that's one or two 1200tab containers per week
I'm gonna die from getting poisoned by some chemicals they put in the sweetener before gaining and ounce of fat

>>39538237

I should be more clear: ADDED sugar is bad for you. You are correct that all carbohydrates get broken down into sugar. The caveat is that the process of conversion slows the release of insulin. If you take in pure sugar, it doesn't need to be processed and so your body releases a huge spike of insulin (aka simple or high GI carbs). If the process is long and drawn out, you get a slower release of insulin (aka complex or low GI carbs).

Insulin spikes lead to insulin resistance (diabetes). Large insulin spikes also promote fat storage over slower release (unless you're on the juice, in which case all bets are off).

>>39538899

>Insulin spikes lead to insulin resistance (diabetes)

Nope

>>39538899

high bgl leads to diabetes, not high insulin.

>>39538899

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/7/5/465

Protein causes almost the same insulin spike as pure glucose does. Anybody that says sugar is bad because it spikes insulin is also saying that protein is bad.

>>39539067

his point on insulin spikes is because he doesn't understand the mechanism of diabetes.