My friend says girls don't really like muscle. For the

>>39511861
women don't know what they fucking want

yes, they prefer bigger guys by nature. they'll say they don't because they don't want to be a 'typical' 'gurley'-girl, they want to be different, to be 'themselves' and be a special snowflake.

women are bullshit, don't listen to them, ever.

yeah and some guys claim they don't like big fake boobies or fake makeup faces or blonde bimbos but they're all liars

I thought "women don't know what they want" was a r9k meme but it's true. Women say they don't like big guys because they're very socially-oriented, it's popular to like twinks or dadbod guys now, so you have to say "oh, I don't like those dumb meathead guys that are too big, teehee" so that Stacy doesn't think you're a freak. It's not that different from what guys do, if you tell your bros that you want a high-test woman to smother you with her ass after a workout they'll say you're crazy, but the anonymity here reveals that a lot of guys want the very same thing.
Musculature is a sign of strength (duh), and women like strong men. Period.
Look at all the ratchet whigger girls who started calling Drake "daddy" after he got swole.
Big guys just command more attention, and while it's not a free pass to getting women to like you (lifting won't fix autism), they do notice, and they do find you better looking.

>>39511861
different women are attracted to different stuff bro, just be confident and do your thing, and make sure you interact with people socially (HS, College, Gym, Bar, whatever) and eventually you'll attract someone you like

>>39511937
why do fat girls like muscle so much, is it because they know they're already low value and don't care about what other women think

>>39511877
pretty much this

>>39511964
They know that in a survival situation the muscular man will require more calories to stay swole so she would rather he eat her fat ass to provide said calories. Its primal or something

>>39511900
I don't know man, I'm open about my tastes but I've honestly never liked the bimbo thing

>>39511979
/thread, its over guys, the dude is a fucking genious

>>39511979
The last time I ate a fat girl's ass I don't think it was many calories.

>>39512025
Anything >0 when talking ass eating cals is too much...

>>39511861
They don't like big muscles for the same reason you don't like porn

>>39512034
you aren't experiencing eating ass the right way then bro

>>39512025
Youd be surprised how many calories are in dingleburs.

>>39511900
You don't know what you're talking about. I can't stand these characteristics you just mentioned (bimbo part I don't care about). Literally makes my dick go limp. I like natural tits with dat bit of droop, and a nice face that I can actually see.

>>39512049
I'm not experiencing eating ass at all TOBEHONEST FAMILY

>>39511877
This.

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>>39512048

>>39511877
im a big guy and i can confirm this.

>>39511861
Why are people always so retarded they insist in talking in generalities like this?

All girls don't like big muscle guys any more than all guys don't like fitness chicks. It's also perfectly possible for an individual to be into more than one body type. A particular girl might be into fit well built dudes and also skinny twink mode pretty boys. I'm a dude and I fucking love high test curvy girls but also like sporty cardio bunny type fitness chicks.

I'd say theres a lot of women out there, perhaps even a majority, who are impressed by a fit well muscled guy. I've never known a women to think it's a bad thing personally, unless it's a clearly roided freak beast kind of guy. Most women would be repulsed by rich piana for example. Most women out of their teens/early twenties would probably think Zyzz was a bit too much also. But a well built guy who looks natty? They do like that shit for the most part, although there will of course be women who don't go for it.

>>39511861
Not all women have the same preferences
sage

>>39512048
What do you mean about porn? i dont like porn movies, but i do as heck like watching a cute girl in a cute outfit. Watching porn is degenerate and promote cuckhold.

No, no they don't. It's not attractive.

>>39512075
>>39512081
>>39512108
found the femanons

>>39511861
My gf cant stop touching my lats and says she loves the v shape

>>39511861
>My friend says girls don't really like muscle.


Lmao. You're friend is jelly. He's trying to bring you down. He see's you raising your worth and it is making him insecure so he's trying to bring you down. Keep going. You're on the right path.

>>39512075
because 99% of the people of this website are circle-jerking autists that have never had a gf, cept in /fit they just lift to cover their crippling social problems and general lack of inter-personal skills

Most of them lie.

They do it for two reasons : either they're dating a twink and force themselves to pretend he is everything they ever wanted out of a man OR they entire dating life has been spent hooking up with frameless hipster types and they need to reaffirm their life choices.

Most of my friends are upper-middle class while I grew up in a somehow low-income environment. When I go to parties thrown by their friends I'm almost always the only guy with hints of muscles, and I ALWAYS hear the same thing coming from girls :

" Oh no I don't like muscles teehee "

Strangely, those same girls end up hooking up with me and not the 140 lbs numale that courted her the entire night. Strange, isn't it ?

>>39512101
i only watch POV you pleb.

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>>39511900
If there were a way to literally inject fake muscles that look like shit and have zero function into your body, yes, maybe that would be a good argument. But muscles don't work like pic related so that's not comparable at all.

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>>39512101

>>39511861

Put no stock whatsoever into the opinions of women, least of all regarding their opinion of what they themselves want.

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>>39511861
From my experience, women tend to like bigger men over thin ones. Chubby or muscular.

>>39511861
Most of my friends like ottermode, I like big guys though.

>>39511861
i dunno, i guess its mostly other guys mirin.
i can only speak for myself though, when i see a big dude i mire the fuck out of him, i know how much time and dedication he must have put into it.
girls (unless they are ACTUALLY into fitness or weightlifting) are pretty shallow and will feel fine with an ottermode or even skelly

>>39512212
Your friend would date the big guy in a heartbeat.

Remember lads:
Watch what women do, not what they say.

>>39512212
Anon was asking females, not flaming homos.

>>39512245
Does pushing unfounded narratives make you feel better about yourself?
Rhetoric question btw

>>39512169
Ever heard of synthol?

>>39512260
>Rhetoric question btw
this made me kek

girls like F___, H____ and F____

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>>39511861
When women say they don't like muscles they mean they don't like this.
Sure, maybe 1 in 1000 women will reject you for being ottermode and not skinny like a twig because she has a rare preference, but who cares?

>>39512294
girls like franklins, hundreds, and franklins.

>>39511861
>My friend says girls don't really like muscle.
bucket crabs

>>39512294
Farts, Hysteria and Flatulence?

>>39512336
>>39512133
friend = girl

>>39512446
The same girl masturbates exclusively to guys with arms and abs.

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>>39511861
I didn't bother reading any of the autistic posts in this thread.

Think of it similar to a huge ass/tits. Some girls are automatically attracted to it no matter what, BIGGER THE BETTER. Some girls, however (the kind us autists tend to go for) might even be intimidated by big muscles (like if a girl with double d breasts with huge cleavage starts talking to you)

Girls want to be able to feel safe in your arms. This can be done either by being 3+ inches taller than her, or by being stronk enough that when you're cuddling and you flex your bicep her forehead can get crushed.

In conclusion, 2 much muscle can scare off some girls or be a red flag (oh he spends so much time on bettering himself, he must be veign)
But REALLY all girls want is a hard-body guy with abs
Pic related, the girl I asked about this


BONUS-RANT: I don't know if this is commonly accepted and I'm late to the party but the other day I was high as shit abd realized why girls idolize 6-pack abs...
Abdominal muscle is a sign of sexual ability/stamina. I think it's a subconscious biological thing where they see a 6-pack and deep down they automatically think he will be able to more than satisfy them

>>39512767
>dyed hair

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>>39512793
Thicc azns are the flavor of the week my dude

>>39512154
>140 pounds there about
>girlfriend says she likes my muscles
>Slowly glances at arms.

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>>39512767
DD isn't very big. average cup size in the US is D

you have to go H or larger to be "big"

>>39512826
what retard took this picture

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Girls like nice face
If you're small with a nice face - girls will like you
If you're big with a nice face - girls will like you
If you're ugly at any shape - girls will not like you
That is literally all there is to it

>>39512918
Nah
Average girl is fat
Skinny girl with DD is large

>>39512918
only reason D is 'average' is because the average American is a cow.

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>>39512918
This is what the mean average woman looks like though.

women fucking love muscles

many women don't like the stereotypes that come with muscles.

be smart + have muscles + don't be an ugly piece of shit + have a good career and you can get pretty much any pussy you want.

>>39513008
I have all of those and I'm a 27yo virgin.
You're literally making shit up as you see fit to justify your hours spent at the gym.
Muscles are pushed hard by society as the most attractive trait for men but it's mostly other men who push this. Women are told by society it's attractive so most of them will go along with that but they genuinely don't care that much about it.
Don't be fat or really really skinny and your body is already good enough to date.

>>39513062
> and I'm a 27yo virgin
So what you're saying is you're totally unqualified to say absolutely anything about what men OR women prefer.

>>39513062
T. Ugly dyel

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>>39511861
>My friend says girls don't really like muscle.

Wow it's almost like different girls like different things...

Wtf!!
I thought girls were all one hivemind who have only one set of interests, beliefs, values and preferences

wtf i hate women now

>>39513094
Sure I'm not qualified enough to say cringey shit like
>ALL women like muscles they're all collectively lying in a massive conspiracy

>>39511877
this. and honestly, use common sense OP. you think you're going to have a better batting average if you're skinny or if you're swole?


c'mon son

>>39513062
>I have all of those and I'm a 27yo virgin.
What? I don't get it. It's almost as if you never go out, to meet woman and spend all your free time shitposting

>>39511861

do some fake statistics with me here, OP.
say 50% of grills admit to liking big muscles. Some of them will settle for a guy with little/no muscles, depending on if they have game and any number of other factors.
And say that 50% of grills claim that they don't like big muscles. Women are full of shit, so most of these chicks will fucking cream their pants when a buff dude gives them attention.

so it bassically is a wash. but I bet you more women are going to "settle" for a guy with muscles than a skinny guy. so you have to decide if you would rather be swoled up for yourself, or if you'd rather be skinny.

as a big guy, you'll have a hurdle in the sense that women's "danger" response will kick in faster. they are already constantly on their guard because men are retarded and do scary shit to them all the time. so if you're big, you can't also be a total autist or mongoloid.

if you're small, you won't be immediately flagged as a threat, but cmon - do you really want that?

tl;dr

>women (people in general) don't know what they want and are a meme
> lifting for chicks is a meme

>>39513545
and some women get off on "safe danger", meaning if you can balance being a big, intimidating dude with charm and kindness, they can enjoy the thrill of letting down their guard and being vulnerable without worrying that you're actually going to rape/beat them.

if you're skinny, you're basically their physical equal, which isn't very sexy.

that all being said, a lot of chicks are traumatized by people doing bad shit to them and get **triggered** by aggression, so its more about not being an asshole than anything else.

bassically just get big, don't be an asshole, and live your life.

>>39511877
fpbp. women just want a man for high status in the tribe and her friend group, so her preferences will change to fit whatever the nearest alpha is.

>>39511877
so much fucking this

>>39511877
Like i always say to myself, GIRLS LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE