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~FRAUD~MORE MUSCLE, MORE SHREDS, MORE HAIR

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>>39447183
OLD CANCER
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>>39454085
Remember to tip your gym bully
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>>39454085
so you're not scared of the fact that PSO is a 5ar inhibitor just like finasteride?

don't wanna break my dick but i'm thinking of trying that
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>>39454097
what an insecure cunt you are
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We should have a kik group chat
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>>39454110
i've actually been reading about it now. PSO and saw palmetto both block the 5ar enzyme like finasteride does.

but somehow PSO and saw palmetto are correlated with an INCREASED sex drive, while finasteride kills your dick permanently in some cases.

wtf is this shit?
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>>39454085
Mast, what's the deal with your hair? I didn't follow the whole story.

So, I think it started thinning because of the roids and you brought it back? How?
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what did you do, were going bald or something?
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>>39454110
My dick is working fine and I am already months on it. But it really start working crazy at 3000mg. Like insane hair growth. CRAZY

PSO is less harmful than fina.

My dick is only causing problems since i lowered the mast dose to 100mg, but someone gave me a good tip to take an ai and now it's fine again. THANK YOU for the tips. I also want to thank cat piss fot the tip on eca. really helpful some of you.

>>39454115
But I am secure enough to post pictures. AND YOU? KEK
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>>39454135
where do you get pumpkin seed oil?
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>>39454124
Tfw I start home brewing using PSO as the carrier oil
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>>39454125
>>39454127
I was thinning and shedding during showers crazy. But now i am on PSO and saw palmetto combo and now it grew so fucking thick the barbed needed a fucking Axe to cut it. I am gonna lower the dose i think

>>39454148
It's a legal supplement, you can get it pretty much everywhere where you can buy supplements i think

I am currently on 3000mg PSO and 2300mg saw palmetto. That's a crazy thickness cocktail
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>>39454135
here's a pic for u, manlet. TFW no pics of your height. top kek
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>>39454135
> I'm secure
> Never show's face
Everyone on here will post their body, which they have control over changing, and talk shit. However every single one of you kids will hide your face. That is true insecurities.
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i'm on procepia since i started seeing hairs fall out and i havent had any sides yet, been on it for about 5 months and i've noticed less hairs falling out and my crown area looking a lot thicker, should I also try pumpkin seed oil?
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>>39454162
cough
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>>39454162
>Showing your face and potentially exposing your identity on a Mongolian bathtub drugs bbs
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>>39454156
>But now i am on PSO and saw palmetto combo

So you're basically on something entirely "natural", right?

I don't know much about those two, but how do you take them? Is it injectable or how does it work?

Never stop surprising us, masT.
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>>39454173
Good on you. People need to stop caring what kids on the internet, or in life, say.
Sorry about the swollen glands though, shit happens. Best of luck.
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>>39454173
How come they're swollen? aids?
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>>39454196
Sucking too many cocks really works out the jaw muscles, and they grow on all those roids
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>>39454170
Saw palmetto (Serenoa repens) has been used as a natural treatment for androgenetic alopecia and has a similar mechanism [23]. Interestingly, in a recent study, it was found that 38% of males with AGA which received Serenoa repens at 320mg every day for 24 months showed increased hair growth. The authors concluded that it could be used as an alternative treatment for mild to moderate AGA and that it is more effective than finasteride in this respect

>is more effective than finasteride

>>39454177
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4017725/

Read this study if you don't believe it

Pills. all are supplements pills.

I take 3x(1000mg each) PSO spread over the day
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I take 5x(450mg each)Saw palmetto spread over the day.

It takes a long time to see the effects, 12 weeks probably.

>>39454162
WHERE IS THE HIDING FAGGOT. I have the face, the body and the power. and you are mirin. I give you no choice
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>>39454210
If I end up with thinning hair I'll remember that, but I'm early 30s already.
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>>39454210
>Read this study if you don't believe it

No need to. I believe you. I'm just pretty impressed. Do you have a pic of the thinning hair? This is amazing, you know.

I have this friend who's going bald, I'll be happy to tell him about this. You're living proof.
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>>39454173
>shows a part of cheek
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>>39454210
>>39454218
you think this shit will help me thicken my hair back up after accutane rekt the fuck out of it?

>>39454221
yeah let me show off these deformed facial aesthetics right
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>>39454210

yo i'm sold, where can i buy this stuff?

Do you think the 3x 1000mg dose is good for any guy?

Also there wouldn't be an issue comboing this with finasteride / procepia would there?
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>>39454218
No pics of the thinning hair, because it made me depressed looking at it. But it even grew thicker than normal. My hair was never this thick.

>>39454224
It's legal, it's cheap, it works and has no shitty fina side effects. Wtf do you have to lose?

If you see a thousand dollars seeing lying on the ground and you would 1000% be sure nobody knows about it and you can just take it. WOULNDT YOU ALSO TAKE IT?

But don't expect magical results after 1 week. You probably have to be it on for months to really see the effects.

>>39454234
I don't know, But being bald is worse than death. It's man worse nightmare. It's like your penis would go smaller every week and will eventually turn into a micropenis. Do you want a micropenis or do you want the bbc?
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>>39454210
can you do a front double bi pls?
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>>39454246
good analogy brah, and yeah i want the bbc u nom sayin

but yeah i'm 22 and i noticed a bit of thinning, might just be paranoia but i hopped on finasteride which seems to be working pretty good so far, no sides and i'll try the two supplements you mentioned, if you're claiming its made ur hair thickers than it was previously that's pretty crazy
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>>39454246
You find a way to reverse hair thinning. Wow.

Now all you have to do is find a way to make boobs grow. You'll get rich.
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Last few nights been having crazy intense dreams (nothing weird just visually intense)

And can't sleep more than a few hours at a time.

Is it the roids? Never had this before. Only on Basic test e 250mg e3d
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>>39454210
I showed your picture to my dyel friend and he said you look like a steroid freak
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>>39454263
Dont take an AI, problem solved.
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>>39454267
I'm on 300mg/wk and I'm definitely noticing that I feel like having less sleep
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>>39454248
Haven't i posted it already?

>>39454263
Too bad there is no way to reverse your astronomically form of ugliness. Oh wait. no there is: you can always kill yourself to release yourself from the pain

>>39454260
Just do it man. No man should be thinning

Did i ever lied to you guizy? I am the most honest man alive
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>>39454294
what should i run for 2nd cycle? going for mass
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>>39454293
Not the same.

I fall asleep and have these really 'strong' dreams, waking up and falling back asleep after each one. But like 2-4 hours later I'll be left unable to fall back asleep.

Really strange, I hesitate to blame the roids but Ive never had anything close to this before.

Any ideas people? Been happening this past week and the lack of real sleep is adding up
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>>39454289
lol

I mean for girls
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>>39454328
Guessing you've only done test, therefore whatever you do, only add in 1 additional compound you haven't tried before so know what compound to attribute what to.

For cycling I'd steer clear of deca due to it's clearing times.

There's anadrol, NPP, trest ace
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>>39454332
Traps are girls too anon
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is there anything that can be taken while on cycle to improve androgen receptor sensitivity ?
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>>39454294
Ok mast I've just bought a shit load of PSO and saw. I will be eternally grateful if this works.

Inb4 this is all just one giant meme and you're fucking with us to give us diarrhea
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>>39454358
Better workouts (more sustained damage) and cardio increase receptor sensitivity in related muscle tissue
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>>39454294
mustve missed it? can you repost?
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>>39454358
Steroids.

Though LGD after a few weeks should make steroids that bind to SHBG (such as test) more effective as SHBG gets reduced significantly. Means more free test, but also more estrogen converted from test, and also less estrogen binding to SHBG as well.
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>>39454346
yeh just test and dbol, will have a look into those others
thanks
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>>39454365
thanks
>>39454367
looks like i gotta add LGD to my cylce then
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>>39454375
You dont have to. If you do beware of a sudden rush of estro sides if youre sensitive to them when SHBG drops.

>>39454375
Trest Ace would be king even at low doses, but you gotta control the estrogen, problem start the ai a few days before the trest.

There's plenty of options desu.
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>>39454395
good to note for estro sides i hate having icthy nips but atleast i get that before signs of gyno appear days later.

when roids are legal again or decriminalized trestolone would be come the flagship of big pharma companies

one day dreams will no longer be memes one day
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>>39454418
If you can control the estro, trest looks like the best. Its kinda expensive though.
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>>39454282
He's only saying that to feel better about himself and the fact he's a weak minded faggot that is not even able to achieve only 1/1000000th of what i am now

>>39454362
I see no reason to do so really. I know how it feels to be paranoid about thinning and hair loss.

This really helped me a LOT. but like i said, it takes time to see the results.

>>39454328
Test + food. That's all you need for mass. i have proven that's all you need to be big.
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>>39454441
>He's only saying that to feel better about himself
Ik he's crab mentality as fuck. But he's a good friend always had my back even when I had some hard times

Just figured you'd take it as a compliment
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>>39454362
haha same here bro i bought some, inb4 the combination of the pumpkin seed oil and saw is lethal

>>39454441
are u aussie?
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>>39454441
Mast you've been in the game a while.

Any idea on this
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>>39454457
No

>>39454453
At least you have friends. You are the only social contact i have

Thank you for the compliment then.

>>39454466
Yes i can confirm that's roids. But i only had it in the beginning mostly, Now i don't have it anymore,

That fact that you couldn't sleep could be estro problems i am currently suffering of myself.
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>>39454457
wtf was this nigger spouting some kind of bullshit about PSO and SP in the last thread.

It doesnt inhibit gains or lower test. Fucking retarded jew nigger.

>>39454457
can you please stop being a imbecile mongoloid muslim nigger faggot?

You can literally just buy pumpkins, pick out the seeds in it and its the exact same fucking shit as buying caps from amazon.

How can you even compare that to a fucking manufactured DRUG that is finasteride with PSO, which is just a fucking natural oil that is extraced from pumpkins.

Coconut oil helps with hair too. Are you now going to autistically research side effects of coconut oil because it may give you dead dick, cancer, aids and brain damaged?


Also dont expect to fucking regrow your hair on that shit. Sure it works to some extent, but extent is the key word here. It might not do anything for you.

There are people on finasteride, dutasteride and RU and they still lose hair. Everyone is different.
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>>39454501
You sure talk tough for a little guy
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>>39454441
>Test + food. That's all you need for mass. i have proven that's all you need to be big.

And for what reason did you add mast? Did it do anything for mass gain?
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>>39454085
Hey, masT. What do you do for a living? Model? Sponsors? Professional gladiator?
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>>39454501
i'm the guy you responded to, gonna have to ask u to calm down m8

i'm happy to spend a bit of money to try a supplement to see if it helps out, specially since i'm already on fin what's the problem m8
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>>39454547
There is not a problem m8.

I just cant understand how you can be this autistic about PSO and compare it to a literal drug and think its gonna be as harmful.

The fact that you are already on FINASTERIDE and still scared about PSO is just the crowning.

>Is PSO safe? Am scared
>xDDD BTW IM ALREADY ON FINAS

wtf
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Am I being fucking memed here? I've always had fine hair, but lately I've noticed my hair is getting a bit too fine for my liking. Are you telling me that PSO and some magic berry are going to help that?
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>>39454572
You realise that the combination of PSO + Saw will lower your dht and somewhat mimic what finasteride does?
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>>39454572
i was only joking about it being lethal but i guess the way i phrased it didnt make that clear

but yeah, trying to create a stack of vitamins and stuff that I can use everyday, so far i've got zinc, green tea extract, beta carotene and the PSO saw palmetto

anything you would recommend to add to that?
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what made you turn in your natty card?
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>>39454572
I don't know whats more autistic, a guy who's concerned about his health, or a guy who saves cartoon reaction pictures to his computer. Jeeeesus christ you nerds make me laugh sometimes
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>>39454085
have you ever posted your gym history?

like when you were lanky and decided to gym what program did you go. and which programs after that.
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>>39454594
Uhm yes sherlock, thats why it works.

There are a bunch of other side effects related to finas only, that have nothing to do with decreased DHT.

One of that includes the very feared permanent dead dick side effect. Which is not going to happen by taking some fucking oil extraced from a fucking pumpkin.

>>39454597
being dyel as a 21 year old. How can anyone even live like that.

>>39454596
Lol im on a bunch of other bro-science methods that you prolly never heard of.

PSO and SP are not a 100% guaranteed way to get your hair back or stop the hairloss completely.

But you are already on finas so i dont see why you even care about these meme-science products.

Do you want to regrow hair, or just maintain?

>>39454606
you forgot to add "xDD ur so autistic LMAO".

It makes you look even scarier
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>>39454642
>Which is not going to happen by taking some fucking oil extraced from a fucking pumpkin.
You know this for sure? I'm going to be taking 3x the recommended dosage, just like masT. How the fuck do you know it's not going to give me these unwanted side effects?
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>>39454663
Because its fucking pumpkin oil. People cook with that shit and add it to dishes in October.

Do you think you're gonna get liver cancer if you add x3 the recommended olive oil into your fucking salad?
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>>39454682
Yes i know that it's fucking pumpkin oil. There are many natural medicines that can be toxic in large dosages. My point is, you don't know for sure do you, you're just going by what you THINK will happen, and calling people autists for questioning it.
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>>39454693
>There are many natural medicines

PUMPKIN OIL ISNT FUCKING MEDICINE YOU MONGOLOID ITS JUST OIL
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>>39454642
after noticing my hair on my crown was not as thick as it used to be i freaked out a bit, did some research on fin i got freaked out and decided to hop on it, i heard justin bieber is on it solely to stop any sort of hairloss which is kind of weird

i want to prevent hairloss and maintain, even improve hair thickness and density if possible
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It really BOGGLES my mind that people call me retarded while fucking debating about PSO might be dangerous or not working. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?! At least try it for a couple of months. It's fucking cheap and legal and has no side effects. Fucking fedora dyels cuck suckers

>>39454624
I started joining a gym when i was 17-18 years old. Trained 4 years natty before i started to roid

The first 3 year i was just eating whatever i want and had no serious routine or diet. Then i started to diet and train seriously for one year, which resulted in the natty pics you probably know of. Then i started cycling. Did 2 cycles. with between. After my second i went 4 months off and now i am on low test + mast since April

>>39454663
Just try it and see how your react. If you get shitty side effects you just lower the dose. Do you want to be bald or be dead while trying not be bald? The choice is yours
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>>39454713
That's why I put the word natural in front of medicine, to imply that pumpkin seed oil is in fact natural, but has medicinal benefits. Do you need to go lay down in a dark room to cool off?
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>>39454727
Yeah man I've already bought it and will be trying it. I just don't like being labeled an idiot for questioning it
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>>39454642
so you didn't even lifting as a natty and jumped straight on stuff and started?
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>>39454713
nice weapons grade autism there boyo

>>39454744
welcome to /fraud where all retards with a degree in broscience

>>39454750
unless your under 20 without any years of training under your belt then you would have zero need to start roiding, after 20 then fuck it take it all
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>>39454736

Its not even sold as medicine you nigger.

PSO might give you side effects, but not the shitty ones that Finas give you because its not a FUCKING MANUFACTURED DRUG.

I had Brain Fog and Diarrhea the first few weeks, thats fucking it.

It wont give you a fucking perma dead dick.

If you are scared about autistic shit like this then stop smoking, alcohol, coffee and everything else.

>>39454722
There is no reason to do anything besides finas then.

Heck you could massage your head and shampoo your hair less and it would prolly be enough to make your hair thick again.

But i know you cant be bothered with that, so just take finas and be fine with it. No need to spend more money on meme-science products.
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>>39454110
What does pso stand for? Google suggests pumpkin seed oil and says it might inhibit 5ar.
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>>39454750
No, i lifted for 1 year before i hopped on.

I could have lifted for longer, but at that point i already knew how to make gains so i just jumped the juice.

It just depends if you know how to make gians.
There are people who look dogshit and dyel after 3 years of lifting, those people shouldnt jump on roids.

If you dont know how to make gains natty, you are doomed to look dogshit on roids. Like that one guy who posted last week.

Im also 21 yo and dont want to "waste" my time anymore.

>>39454744
> I just don't like being labeled an idiot for questioning it

Its just fucking useless and pointless. Its a bro-science product mostly. Do you think there are studies that researched the "side effects" of some fucking Pumpkin Oil? lmao

People jump on finas and whatnot to save their hair, and you are losing your mind about a fucking oil.
Not a medicine, not a drug. Just fucking oil that can be bhought everywhere.
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>>39454765
well i've already bought it and there's some other " benefits " too so may as well try it and see how it goes, but what you're saying is that finasteride by itself is more than enough to block dht and stop hairloss?
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>>39454775

Yes you fucking jew nigger manlet, thats what it stands for and thats what we have been talking about for the last 2 threads.

And yes it inhibits 5ar to some extent, which is why it works.
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This thread makes me so fucking glad I don't get side effects from DHT's. Funnily enough, added masteron back into the mix today.
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>>39454085
Speaking of the OP, what are y'all doing for your hair? Currently taking aloe vera and it's growing back very slowly

I don't want to fuck with finasteride and all that shit
>>39454110
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>whole thread is a turbo manlet writing in caps
how long until you will be gone
took look enough for supermang but you are some kind of special mong
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>>39454787
Of course it is. Do you even know what Finas is?

You could be on 5 pounds of Test E and Finas would save your hairline.

Its a very harsh and strong drug, one of the reasons i am never going to do it.

If you dont get sides from it, be happy. I dont want to risk it, exspecially because my bro-science methods are already enough for me.


Its like asking " Do you think 5 billion dollars is enough to live a good life? Are you sure about that?".
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>>39454765
It's sold as a supplement that has medicinal benefits, you fuck.

I think it was the combination of PSO + Saw that has the ability to lower dht, which was my concern. Just because it's not a manufactured drug doesn't mean shit to me.

I'm not scared or autistic. I just like to know about shit before putting it into my body.
I'll be checking my bloods as usual to know for sure, and if it turns out it does lower dht too much. The next time you go home after gym, I'll be under your bed.
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>>39454097
Take away the veins, give this guy a lesson in Liberty and conservatism, and he could be next Cap when Evans leaves. Nice body.

Too bad about all the health problems you'll have in about 10 years.
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>>39454814
>what are you doing for your hair?

>last 200 posts in the last 2 threads all about hair treatment

>>39454807
mirin chad hair
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>>39454727
How is work masT,have you met anyone decent recently.
Also when will you start blasting.
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>>39454785
>If you dont know how to make gains natty, you are doomed to look dogshit on roids. Like that one guy who posted last week.

This is stupid. Some people don't make gains cause their body just doesn't respond well, not because they "don't know how to make gains". Wtf? What's there not to know? If they follow a good program and eat enough, the gains should just follow. It's not rocket science. Some people just don't gain as much as others. It's genetic.
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>>39454486
Yo masT why dont you have friends?

>>39454597
I'm tall and dont want to be lanky. + theres no reason to be natty anyway really so why not
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I do have to point out how proportional MasT is, looking great given the amount of gear you run.
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>>39454828
Every supplement is sold to have some medicinal benefit.

I can find horse semen on amazon that says it makes me immortal.

No its not the combination. There are 3 types of DHT. Both PSO and SP block one type of DHT in your body.

PSO alone, or SP alone would work. Combining them is just a stronger effect.

>getting bloods for this

There has been a study about this. It is going to lower your DHT, you dont need to get bloods for that.

But its not a drug that has all kinds of chemical ingredients and whatnot, so its not going to permanently fuck you up.

Eat some fucking pumpkins if that makes you feel better, its the same shit

Again, if you are losing your mind about something like this. Stop eating meat, stop drinking alc, stop drinking coffee, stop smoking weed.

Heck stop sun bathing, stop eating pizza.
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>>39454842
>last 200 posts in the last 2 threads all about hair treatment

Lel it's funny that this happened because in the time span you took to reply to my post I just ordered $100 worth of saw palmetto capsules and PSO
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beard gains?
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>>39454124
Because the permanent dick killing shit is placebo self fulfilling prophecy perpetuated by baldlets who had no chance. Look up stats foe that shit. In placebo tests for fin, the same % of dudes or more said their dick stooped working. From consuming sugar pills. Fucking faggots. All of them
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>>39454863
lack of frequency or high volume is often the reason why people arent gaining enough muslce as quick as they should.

you can lift heavy and intense for that one workout a week and get good gains in strenght and size but without increasing the other 2 factors more you end up falling short in your goals
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Its funny to see how people who start juicing further decline into a downwards spiral of supplements

Oh I need this supplement for my hair, this supplement to protect my liver, this supplement to stop gyno, this injection for this, that pill for that

Are you not tired of your dependancy on drugs to get through life, youre no different than a heroin addict
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>>39454873
>stop eating pizza.

Nothing wrong with pizza though. Wtf? Why do people always bring up pizza like it's the unhealthiest thing to eat?
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>>39454863
>le i am dyel because of genetics meme

Found the faggot.

Yes its not rocket science. its easy and logical as fuck.

People are lazy pieces of shits that cant be bothered to follow a strict shedule for 2 years of their life, which is why they dont make gains.
They lift like faggots and dont drop a single seat in the gym and think they have worked out hard.

If you think some people are doomed to look dyel for their entire life no matter the effort, then do not ever talk to me or my wifes son ever again.

What about that faggot last week who looked like a 6 month lifter after 1 year of roiding and 600mg deca?
Is that still genetics? fkn lmao
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>>39454880
We are all damaged and insecure.
All of us have body dsymorphia,lots of us have self loathing.
Anyone who claims that he doesnt have these things is delusional.
If you dont win money from it,juicing shows that something is wrong with you.
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>>39454890
hence why the math should be

80% working out 20% diet and 10% roides/ancillary's
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>>39454890
>What about that faggot last week who looked like a 6 month lifter after 1 year of roiding and 600mg deca?

Haven't seen him.

However, I am not saying that there aren't people who just don't lift and eat consistently. But for some people there are some bad genetic limitations. Like, take a guy with naturally lower test or weak joints for example. His results just aren't going to be that great. You don't take those individuals into consideration.

You can't deny that most people aren't going to look like mast in his pre-roid pictures by lifting naturally, even if they gave it all.
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>>39454873
So you're saying that PSO + SP only effects the type 2 alpha reductase? So does finasteride though and look what that can do to your pepee.

Stop being a total retard, I said I will be checking my bloods as usual. Not that I'll be getting bloods specifically for this.

Nobody is losing their mind here but you mate.
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>>39454880

It's repulsive talking to some people on gear.

>Oh x drug gave me y side effect so I'm taking z to counter it
>That sounds heavy, why not just cut back or fix the problem rather than treat the symptoms?
>yeah nah fuck that
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>>39454880
Downward spiral? I look like a greek god. A few extra pills to keep me healthy is worth it baby.
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>>39454880
I take asin for gyno and PSO for my hair. And PSO isnt even a drug

>UHHHH WOAH SO DRUG DEPENDANT


also

>steroids are as bad as heroin

fkn lmao
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so whats a good routine
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>>39454937
They are,if not worse.
You can quit heroin without fucking your endo system,organs,cardiovascular system etc.
There are no way to do that with roids.
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>>39454942
Train every body part once or twice a week. More for those lagging areas.
Low rep, heavy weight will build more strength than size.
High rep, lighter weight will build size faster.
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>>39454955
What shitty advice.
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>>39454947
>There are no way to do that with roids
What fucking planet are you living on lol? Are you trying to tell me that I can never come off steroids again? Holy fuck what can I do? toppest of keks
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>>39454955
which routine is best if i want something in the middle between strength and size? i still want to get stronger but i want to look good as well
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>>39454947
Is this a joke?
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>>39454909
>le 80% diet meme

I dont believe this personally. Its the lifting that triggers muscle growth and how big your muscles get.

What is diet? Getting enough calories and protein.
That makes up 80%?

lol

>>39454914
Dude, there are certainly people doomed with 200ng/dl test levels yes, i admit that.

But assuming that the majority of dyel faggots are part of this is just delusional.

The chance that they are undisciplined fucks who dont even know what working out hard means is much much greather than the chance of them having bad genetics.

Its like with fat people. Sure some people have some kinda fucked up genes or disease making them more prone to being fat than others.
But how many of these kinda people are out there? Very very very very very few.

I can say for sure that i have bad genetics and i still made insane progress after 1 year of lifting because i was lifting like a madman.
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>>39454964
That's why I look the way I do, and you look the way you do(like shit) bro.
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>>39454967
Yes man roids are clearly safe,you will turn back to normal like nothing ever happened and its clearly not addictive !
Thanks for opening my eyes man I was so wrong,you totally arent a delusional faggot that tries to justify what he does to his body.
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>>39454947
>You can quit heroin without fucking your endo system,organs,cardiovascular system etc
>implying there arent drugs to counter act all of that

even the long term affects heart strain can be counteracted and prevented through proper cardio and drugs

such as
Angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors.

Angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs)

Beta blockers.

Calcium channel blockers.

Diuretics.

>>39454974
it said 80% working out then 20% diet , yah mong

but yes working out is more important than diet
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>>39454968
That's what I try to aim for. For my compound lifts I do 5X5, for everything else, I go between 12-15 reps.
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>>39454947

> I have absolutely no idea what the fuck i am talking about but im just going to pretend i know how steroids work and put it in the same corner as heroin
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>>39454981
Somebody educate this fuck, I need to make some food brb
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>>39454993
I roid myself.
And Its sad to see that fraud is full of delusional faggots that thinks coming back off will fix you back to normal.
Even only above normal test levels is slowly killing you.
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>>39454983
>it said 80% working out then 20% diet , yah mong

Well fuck me.
I swear everyone who says 80% diet (and is natty) looks like shit.

All my dyel friends think abs are made in the kitchen.

Meanwhile they are 10% bf hungry skeletons and you cant see abs for shit.

>>39454942
>le routine meme

let me ask you, what does a routine do?

A routine tells you to do 3x5 flat bench and then 2x5 incline.

What if i do incline first, but 4x5. Am i going to lose all my gains now?

fkn lmao
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>>39455008
>no arguement.
>HAHA YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING.
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>>39455022
>le routine meme

What do you suggest then?
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>>39455009
>arnold blasting grams of every shitty steroid that is out there as a 16 year old

>alive at 70yo

also
>all steroids have the same side effects

>organ damage from injectables are a thing too
>test kills your cardio vascular system just as much as tren does
>coming off from test or deca is the same thing
LE EBIN MEMES

>i roid myself
sure you do, faggot
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>wake up slightly hung over
>take a piss
>pound some water
>the sweet smell of bacon drifts into my nostrils
>go downstairs to find woman made coffee, bacon and eggs
>Trump won
Can life get any better?
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>>39455009
pic is a 78 year old, obviously steroid using bodybuilder, there are ways of counteracting side effects, problem is most don't know how, or simply don't take steps necessary to counteract.
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>>39455022
protien companies wouldnt be able to surive without the 80% diet meme.

not like you need a whole lot of protien when most workouts are barely longer than an hour and only workout 1 musle group at a time.

if it was total body for 7 days straight to failure as much as possible while working out twice a a day then 1.5 grams of protien would be ideal for that situation but only Olympic athletes need that kind of work done.

120grams-180grams is all anybody should ever need for growth.

>>39455047
total body workout with 1st compounds , 2nd accessories both of these as heavy as possible then pryamid down till lowest wheight and hit failure for every movement, 3rd cardio finish your workout and keep your heart healthy and zero isolation machines do this 6 days a week and there should be no reason for you to not gain muscle
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>>39455060
arnold isnt a poor faggot that lurks 4chan,he got through 373363 surgeries to keep being alive.
I swear excluding masT,every single trip on fraud is pathetic.
>this much strawman.
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>>39455047

as far as exercises in the gym go, just do whatever you feel like doing.
You know your body, you know how your muscles feel like when doing a specific exercise.

For example, i hate flat bench because it feels shitty
But i love incline, feels so much better on my chest.

As far as muscle groups go...

This is what i do, and for me thats the most efficient and logical thing to do.

1: Back+biceps

2: Chest + triceps + shoulders

3: Legs + abs

I workout as much as possible, but i give the muscle groups atleast 1 day of rest.

Basically, i lift 6 times a week but im not overtraining at all.
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>>39455069
FUCKING CHADS
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>>39455060
>still replying to obvious bait

>>39455069
>Trump won
>Can life get any better?

I was laughing my ass off when I found out that Trump won because I was excited to listen to the bitching and moaning of everyone around me. I live in a super "liberal" area so Nov 9th was like a cemetery
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>>39455088
It all comes down to this eventually,genetics and money.
If you have good genetics,you will tolerate sides much better,and having money helps much too.
I can show you 45-50 year olds dropping dead,and they werent pros either,just amateurs with body dsymorphia.
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guys there is this ripped guy down the hill from me and he is always masturbating with his blinds open i can see him pretty clearly through my binoculars but is it gay to watch him? i dont touch myself or anything while im watching im just interested in his technique and stamina and stuff. its not gay if i dont touch myself while i watch is it?
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>>39455090

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger#Accidents_and_injuries

Schwarzenegger was born with a bicuspid aortic valve, an aortic valve with only two leaflets (a normal aortic valve has three leaflets).[157][158] Schwarzenegger opted in 1997 for a replacement heart valve made of his own transplanted tissue; medical experts predicted he would require heart valve replacement surgery in the following two to eight years as his valve would progressively degrade.


TLDR, its genetic, not even steroid related.
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>>39454135
>>39454148
>>39454152

isnt grape seed oil superior for home brewing purposes???
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>>39455089
>120grams-180grams is all anybody should ever need for growth.

this so much.
i facepalm everytime i see 160 lb dyels who think they need 300 grams of protein per day. jesus fuck

>protien companies wouldnt be able to surive without the 80% diet meme.

also this. When people ask me

>but how can you be vegetarian and only eat 150g protein and look like this?

It makes me boil inside. And that was back when i was natty.
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>>39455102
>It all comes down to this eventually,genetics

then do everyone a favour and don't have kids
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>>39454282
>Caring about the opinions of weak normies
Kys
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>>39454876
Minoxidil on your face. Not meming. Google before and after pics
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>>39455120
Yes zyzz had a genetic backdown,this is why he died in a sauna.
It doesnt have anything to do with steroids.
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>>39455094
>1: Back+biceps
>2: Chest + triceps + shoulders
>3: Legs + abs

I'm impressed, I do exactly the same. The only difference is that I work out every other day. I feel like it's better for my joints, that's the only reason I don't go every day.
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>>39454210
masT how tall are you really? its obvious from your pictures that you are under the 6 ft mark so when will you stop deceiving us and tell us the truth?

>mfw i still havent come down from the Trumpede.
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>>39455133
confirmed trol, doesn't even know about zzzz's prolific drug abuse (cocaine etc...)l, bye.
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>>39455120
>Schwarzenegger was born with a bicuspid aortic valve, an aortic valve with only two leaflets
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>>39455123
dont worry granpa is with you on this autism that all /fit/ people and compaines spout out.

i always acompany my most knowlable posts with anime, unless im retarded and asking about shit i dont know

lets not forget about the low fat meme thats keeping plenty of people low test but thats a seprate issue
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>>39455096
I dont like Trump, but it feels so good that he won.

Its a punch into the face for these beta numale gender activist rafugee welcome faggots.

I also hate muslims so thats the only thing i like about Trump
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>>39455132
is this a permanent solution?
or if i shave off the beard after it grows will i need to KEEP applying minoxidil to regrow another one?

or will it permanently make my beard grow faster and thicker??

help
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>>39455145
Why are you trying to defend that steroids doesnt fuck you up.
Its scientific,its proven,it has tons of examples.
Also what killed him was tren,not cocaine.
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>>39454880
>youre no different than a heroin addict

But heroin literally kills you. All of these things are side effects but the ultimate goal is to make the most of your body. Some may develop a dependency depending on their goals. Some people run a cycle of test to recompose themsleves into something nice and never do it again.

Anythinf can be an addiction, but being addicted to a body deteriorating substance for quick escapes is way worse than vain attempts to be strong and look a certain way.
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>>39455134
>I feel like it's better for my joints, that's the only reason I don't go every day.

Then you are doing the right thing. Dont listen to me when i say i lift 6 times a week.

Listen to your body and how it feels like. Listen how your joints feel.

Everything i do in the gym is coming from how i feel like and what i think is the best for me.
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>>39455158
The beard gains don't go away after you stop using it.
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>>39455156
>not loving the savior of the free world
>not helping to build the wall for grip gains
>not MAKING GYM GREAT AGAIN by removing all the shitskins doing meme exercises
>not lovin every moment of thug boss papa trump

What are you even living for?
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>>39454085
not just to mast but..
19 y/o guy that just surpassed dyel status. Want to get ripped and lean as possible, should I start 500 mg test or just get more natty gains?
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>>39455069
Mirin

This memeK677 bloat is real, up 3lbs already

I think 3 months of this and my blast of 500mg test will get me back to 260
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>>39454925
Pics faggot
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>>39455177
no but say i stop using it until its all out of my system of whatever, and then shave my beard off completely (or wax it for sake of arguement)

then to regain that same sort of growth will i need to start applying it again or will it grow back just as strong without continued treatment???
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A pumpkin seed oil ? The stuff i use into salads ?

When´s the punchline for this joke ?
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>>39455182
ur a fukkin female n.e way so fukkin die dipshit
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>>39455174
How much do you OHP?
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>>39455152
Yes this too.

>uhm bro how can you eat this? Its full of fat

And fat is bad for your body or what?

TRIGGERED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>39455165
Tren played a role, but Clen was worse.

it was a combination of all the things he did.

Tren + Clen + Harsh drugs + no Cardio + getting into a sauna in a country with very humid weather + undiagnosed heart disease.
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>>39455183
Look at this insecure beta, he wants pictures of me to masturbate to while he cries.

As if I would even allow you to gaze upon my mass, I put trips like MasT to shame every day.

Please don't embarrass yourself any further.
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>>39455187
lol man, you're really confused.

With beard gains I mean the new hair growing where it didn't grow before. It will keep growing back, even after you stop and shave a 100 times.
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>>39455199
Did he shoot clen along with tren ? I thought nobody can be this retarded to fall for this.
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>>39455202
so lets get this straight

you are saying to me

that if i go and get this minoxidil stuff

and apply it for a few months (however long)

and get a great big bushy beard

and then stop taking the minoxidil

and down the track shave that great big bushy beard off

that even without the minoxidil

i can still grow that great big bushy beard

even if i have a shitty nu-male neckbeard right now?????????

whats the catch? side effects?

i really want a great big bushy beard
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>>39455210
>shoot
>clen
>shoot
>clen
>inject
>a pill

You are a fucking idiot, die quickly and leave a buff corpse.
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>>39455214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHgpklQc34

fuck my sides
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>>39455181
Yes, plain 500mg test e, for 16 or 20 weeks is a good idea.

You escaped dyel status? You know how to make gains natty?
You are ready to join the boat.

Have PCT (clomid and nolva) on hand before you start, just like Aromasin to fight off bloat and gyno.

But wait...

>19 yo

I wouldnt do it.

>>39455187
Minox is topical. It doesnt get into your "system". It works where it applied on the skin and thats it.

If you shave, you keep your beard. Waxing is a different story, because you are ripping out the hair follicles

>>39455193
I dont OHP at all. But i tried it a few times just to see where i am.

5x 1pl8 was doable
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>>39455193

Inb4 he doesn't Press
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>>39455222
>HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW CLEN IS A PILL
>clearly not a writing mistake
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>>39455158
The reason people who use minox to treat top head baldness is because what it does is stimulate hair folicles that already exist. It counteracts dht's effect to make the folicle weak and eventually die. Thats why when people stip using it on the top, they lose their hair again.

On your face, dht is much less present if at all. Minox stimulates dormant hair follicles that already exist causing growth. When you stop using it, it stays because the dht is not there to fuck em up. Your hair is already there, just not active.

I did a few month of it, filled in all types of patches on my neck and chin. Tried to fill my cheeks and got some gains, but still patchy, not full beard growth. If i use it longer i can get more out of it, but it dries your skin like a fuck. Best not to use it for longer periods because it just becomes annoying.
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>>39455214
Some side effects are possible, but I don't think that I had any. Keep in mind though that minox used to be a med to regulate blood pressure.

But yes, it actually works. I had zero facial hair back then and did two cycles and it made me grow lots of hair. Now my beard is ok. It's a little patchy, but I just didn't want to do another cycle. Don't know why.
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>>39455235
>not posting the superior version

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y5Q4q78k
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>>39455237
>I dont OHP at all. But i tried it a few times just to see where i am.
>5x 1pl8 was doable

Can I see a pic of your gains?

No homo.
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>>39455095
There were biscuits and home made apple butter too. =P
>>39455096
Oh man pic related was me dining on librtard tears ALL day on Wednesday. It was fucking epic.
>>39455182
Leaving humanity behind eh?
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>>39455257
You. You owe me those minutes of my life back.

What the fuck was that shit?
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>>39455201
Pics or it didn't happen. You know the rules.
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>>39455244
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>>39455201

My cruise is your blast son.
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>>39455237
What age then? 20? 21? I want to enjoy my gains as young as possible?
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Can I drown my sorrow with roids.
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>>39455414
roids make it worse
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>>39455427
Why.
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>>39455462
Estrogen, prolactin, progesterone

Extreme libido but no gf
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>>39455345
i started at 21.

>>39455414
if you are dyel, yes

>>39455262
ill post pics soon, gimme some time.

pic related is natty though.

1 year of lifting at that point

imgur link for better quality: http://imgur.com/a/cTyLs
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>>39455478
Natty pic looks good
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>>39455478
Train your abs, nice though
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>>39455476
Isnt there roids that fucks your libido up.
And isnt there drugs that counteract with est,prolactin,progesterone.
>>
>switching to a cruise dose
>accidentally do 300ng test 2 days in a row
Damn

>>39455414
No

>>39455277
Yeah well
You suck
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>>39455478
What was your height and stats at that point.
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>>39455502
Takes time to dial it in, then you have possibility of bunk

ROIDS made me more depressed then I came off and fixed that. Now I'm a happy roider

Tren REALLY fucks with my head too
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>>39455529
I have agression problems along with depression,I am pretty much at the natty limit of my genetics.
Why did they make you depressed.
>>39455513
Give me reasons.
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>>39455543
problay never knowing you'll be big even though you've gained 20lbs from a tren cycle
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>>39455543
It enhances your depression cuz you feel like a worthless fuk.

Shooting all this shit, still can't get girls, oh I'm 250lb 6'4 too small, pecs too small, etc

Body dysnorphia
Porn addiction
Escapism
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>>39455289
>p-please give me something to masturbate to
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>>39455568
I've nearly all of these,specially escapism.
I was considering to commit sudoku so I thought why not turn my natty card in,its not like I've got anything to lose.
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>>39455478
what do you look like now?
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>>39455543
It's not a xanax
If youre low test youll feel better
But its not fuark bro im fuark zyzz!!
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>>39455568
pls help me beat porn addiction
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>>39455594
workout till your so sore that the only thing on your mind is sleep
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>>39455488
thanks bb.


>>39455498
yes urgently. My back sucks too. Nothing roids cant fix tho.

>>39455524
5'11" master race, courtesan of lanklets, emporer of manlets. ying and yang, the balance between two worlds, the avatar.

82kg/180 lbs
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>>39455588
I am above avarage according to internet as test levels.
Are you depressed.
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>>39455594
NAC helps a lot with all addictions, helped me

Stay busy, do cardio, go to bed early, etc

I also think porn is beta af, you're jerking off to another guy fuckibg a girl. Then that's enough then you're watching a trap jerk off onto a guys dick then suck it off

Porn is EVIL!!!

Sex with a qt is so much better than porn
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>>39455617
The reason we are addicted to porn is we cant get sex with qts.
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>>39454085
I'm cruising on 300mg Test for life boys, will i make it to 80 years old?
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>>39455568
>>39455584
>>39455594
>>39455560
>>39455543
>>39455502

pease stoya and co. Stop fooling this guy.

If he does a 500 test cycle he is not going to end up a depressed suicidal cuck.

Steroids dont just equal steroids. Stoya has run Tren and shit like that, just stay away from that.

>>39455587
I started 6 weeks ago breh

the same but with slightly bigger shoulders and forearms.

I am 6 weeks in on a baby 250mg dose.
So basically 2 weeks of mediocre gains.
Gonna blast soon though
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>>39455634
You're never going to have sex with a qt if you jerk off to tranny porn, have a dead dick and no sensitivity

Hire an escort

Fucking one on occasion is quite the ego trip
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>>39455617
>then you're watching a trap jerk off onto a guys dick then suck it off
Not even on tren, that's p-gay, dogg.
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>>39455641
High e will make your problems much worse

Steroids don't cure shit
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>>39455120
Tfw Arnie and I have the same heart problem. Must be us alphas with bicuspid valves.
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>>39455647
I have self loathing.
I dont think I can hire an escort.
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>>39455663
your on to something M8y
could be to much test in the womb causing it
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>>39455617
>I also think porn is beta af, you're jerking off to another guy fuckibg a girl

This so much. You are jerking off to a guy, fucking a girl that you would like to fuck yourself.

Like i can see how its addicting. But those few times i have watched porn, i felt so fucking cuckery and beta and pathetic. Never again.

>>39455594
Try not moving your mouse to porn sites and clicking on videos.

>>39455634
But you think watching porn will make you get qts?

lol
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>>39455682
I didnt say that.
I just mentioned the reason,you like strawman much dont you.
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>>39455674
Brb becoming cardiologist. I wonder if it actually gave him any problems or hindered his progress. I don't even notice mine.
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>>39455658
>High e will make your problems much worse
>Steroids don't cure shit

Lol why are you saying this. Stop acting like some cuck robot.

>life is pointless and steroids just make it worse.
>why even life
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>>39455616
Yep

It probably wont help you if youre havibg any issues but if you love lifting it let's you do that more so thats neat

>>39455617
NAC is underated

>>39455647
Not even tranny escorts help
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>>39455697
i dont know shit about it, but keeping a good cardio regiment is a must.

>TFW everybody on my moms side of the family has had some kind of heart problems and a few died

hence why i come from a cardio faggotry background

what would the symptoms be anyways ?
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>>39455702
Lifting is one of my escape mechanisms.
Gonna start roiding,if that doesnt work too just gonna an hero.
thanks.
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>>39455700
Putting a depressed fag on 500mg test won't change shit and it's likely that his estro will go sky high and it'll get worse

Not hard to comprehend

I say this as someone who was just like him for 4 year on and off gear. Then the 5 years of browsing this board, ROIDS can fuck your mental and emotional state up HARD

I don't care if he ROIDS but don't be silly and think he's going to turn into zyzz.

>>39455702
I banged a hot local tranny, not for me Kek
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>>39455751
Whered you meet her?

Ive just done escorts
Id rather suck dick for free though

>>39455722
I hope it helps
Certainly os a good release
Plus i drink less if Im lifting 2 hours a day
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>>39455716
>everybody on my moms side of the family has had some kind of heart problems and a few died
You gon die.

I never had any symptoms. Only reason I know is because I went to a cardiologist when I was younger for an MRI, I don't remember why I went.

>>39455751
>hot local tranny
RVA have a lot of trannies or something?
>>
>friends manage to convince me to hit the club after work/gym yesterday
>go there really late and have some drinks
>chat up a real qt
>really hit off,constant touching and shiet
>their friends tell me she´s there with a guy shes "dating" but he´s and idiot and i should make a move
>she basically tells me that her guy is really annoying her as well
>gives me her number and tells me to text her tomorrow asap
>text her like 7 hours after waking up
>she dosnt respond

ill prolly never make it f a m s
>>
did my first shot of 125mg test e + 50mg tren.

gonna up it to 250mg/100mg tren next week.

also needle pain is fucking overrated holy shit, it only hurts on entering and then it just feels like you're flexing your ass.
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>>39455756
School, I'm in LBGT central brah

The pics are related

>>39455763
Yeah they do but it's not my thing. This "girl" looked like Ariana grande but it was just odd.

My dick knew the difference, smell was off, tried picking "her" up and moving "her" around but she was heavier

Was just an odd experience, they're also 100x more insecure than girls
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>>39455770
I beg your fucking pardon?
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>>39455751
Ending an hero insentifies would help,I dont want to turn a faggot like zyzz.
As I said,just want to kill my sadness,sorrow.
>>39455756
I drink much.
How much do you drink.
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>>39455787
>>39455792
>>39455792
Get a goal, stop being a faggot .

Bodybuilding and the gym won't change shit

Are you in school?
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>>39455580
>Im all talk no show on a chinese cartoon discussion bbs
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>>39455801
Medfag.
But losing motivation to study lately.
Failed a class already.
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>>39455810
http://youtu.be/eky6qBx-lpw

Dig deep make it happen, have you been taking your vitamin d
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>>39455766
>at a club with a guy
She was there to fuck someone else you really messed up not banging her then

>>39455781
Damn shes hot
That would be expensive baka

They are so insecure lmao
Maybe i should hire one today
Hookers are busy on sat though I bet

>>39455792
Im drunk rn
And i spilled all my gin about 10 minutes ago
L I V I D
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>>39454085
hey mast can you level with me
how are you actually in personal?
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>>39455781
>tried picking "her" up and moving "her" around but she was heavier
Aw man, throwing girls around is like half the fun.

>>39455810
Gotta get dem drugs. Armodafinil or Adderall if you have adhd. Or pick a different career that you actually enjoy.
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>>39455823
Meh the next escort I fuvk will be high class blonde babe

>tfw she won't let you touch her cock

What's the point you dumb tranny whore
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>>39455829
Perfect body right there

Can't wait to transfer out of this LBGT, hipster, BLM SHIT TIER SCHOOL

rich white preppy girls await me next semester
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>>39455810
>medfag
I did that for a bit
Expensive and miserable

Now ive got a decent job, working on my mba (which is so much easier lmao), and actually am paying off loans instead of accruing massive debt

>>39455835
Seriously? Why even be a tranny then, feminine dicks are goat

No homo
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>>39455829
My life and past is wrong,not career.
Might aswell just suck a dick instead of taking these.
>>39455823
What is your motive to keep going.
>>39455822
My nutrition is on point,these things motivated me in the past,now I just feel bad because of how many times Ive fallen back to same hole Ive been trying to escape.
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>>39455751
>I don't care if he ROIDS but don't be silly and think he's going to turn into zyzz.


Im not saying that, but you say that it will make him worse.
You also ran all kinds of shit, dont compare that to test only.

>estro
what is asin

Im sorry but you are just being an idiot right now.
And the fact that you are spouting your depressing shit to other anons makes it worse.

>>39455766
you have made a step forward senpai.
Its not like you are going forwards.
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>>39455856
Ever tried LSD and thinking through your shit?
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>>39455865
LSD is really promising, i want to do it too.

Anyone know if this 1P-LSD Clone is the same thing?

Everyone says its the same effect. I want to order it because its legal.
>>
>>39455878
Just take the real thing, it's impossible to get posted with LSD in the post
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>>39455878
you can also try shrooms, pretty sure those are legal af.
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>>39455843
Shouldn't you almost be done?
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>>39455909
Didn't go to school for the past 1.5 years

I have about 2 years left
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>>39455856
I wish I knew
Maybe azusa?
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>>39455865
Only alcohol.
And alcohol makes me think 'why dont you put a bullet in your head,pull the trigger and everything will be done'.
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>>39455930
This actually made me kek.
I cant blackout with alcohol left.
Sende me alcohol senpai.
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>>39455933
Should try it

I know a good Sourve if you're in the USA
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>>39455864
Any reason you prefer asin over adex?
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>>39455933
Well then howabout don't fucking drink? Maybe you'd benefit from some therapy, not psychiatric medication but just talking and shit.
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>>39455950
Thanks man,but I can get it if I want to.
No need to bust your ass for me.
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>>39454085
take a damn picture where you are actually standing up straight instead of leaning into the camera to make your shoulders look bigger, you are clearly big enough to not have to use tricks like that!
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>>39455957
Just don't want you to get the bunk

If you're a medfag, what would your self diagnosis be ?

I know most unis have a counselor you can talk to, that might be interesting
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>>39455955
Drinking allows me to laugh,jack off without self loathing.
Suicidal thoughts are side effects,like walking on thin ice,I might actually shoot myself in the head one day.
Dont know maybe I will try talking shit.
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>>39454135
are you taking 3000mg of finasteride? Please tell me you're joking
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>>39455965
If I really tell them what is going on in my mind they will give me psychiatric medication and even might lock me in a hospital.
Fuck that.
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>>39455478
Can't believe you're 5'11". Your arms are so short. I thought you were like 5'5".
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>>39455948
I was serious ;_;

Me either
Life is shit
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>>39455988
No, he's taking 3g of PSO.
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>>39455671
So... I've never been on /pol/ but... that's obviously the bored for retards right? The kind of kids you couldn't stand in high school because they would read one (psychology) book and proceed to clamber atop the highest of high horses, and preach to you of all the wrongs in your life... despite being sad worthless sacks of shit themselves.

I would rather hang out with shamefaced degenerates, than degenerates too proud to be ashamed.
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>>39456031
You are a decent guy.
Shall buy more whiskey.
WHISKEY
H
I
S
K
E
Y
>>
Alcohol tastes groce and fucks with sleep quality too much. Really the only novel thing about it for me are the wild, many hours long nightmares.
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>>39456132
I have chronic insomnia since childhood.
Alcohol doesnt change anything.
Get on my level.
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>he doesn't do cardio
>he doesn't do GPP work
>he doesn't play a sport to supplement his lifting

>being a juice head
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>>39456162
You been drinking too m8?
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>>39456176
Drinking my hibiscus tea and flipping a tire
>>
So this palmetto works?
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>>39456193
No everyones been ranting and ravving about it for 2 threads str8 for shits and gigs
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>>39454085
it seems expensive? since you're taking such high dose it seems like its almost 40 bucks a month, and takes like 3-6 months
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>>39456253
Heres my fav degenerate whore.
Whatsup.
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>>39455954
adex has rebound.

forget to take it for just 1 day and you wake up with full blown gyno the next day.

>>39455988
>posting that pic and feeling all smart and high
>missed the 200 posts people talking about pumpkin seed oil (PSO)

one way to make yourself look like a faggot

>>39455999
>what is bending your arms

They reach down to my quads. How long are they supposed to be?

>>39456193
PSO works better, and unlike palmetto there is a study done about it
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>>39456274
i pay 5€ for 100 caps.

i take 3 caps a day.

do the math yourself
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>>39456278
Bored as fuck probably going back to bed desu
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>>39456344
Well, I just bought both of them
>>39456358
It's quite cheap, where did you find it? On amazon is like 20 €
>>
masT is actually a pretty decent guy. the dude actually gives genuine advice to beginners and people who ask questions, and is pretty helpful and is surprisingly humble the second hes not baiting insecure faggots.
>>
holy shit I'm so goddamn thirsty
gonna skip my accutane today & make a lot of gin/tonics
do my assignments


>>39456372
gimme my dubs pic first
>>
Man this Hcg has me feeling greats, libido is great, feel "alive" again, balls are back

Wont use roids again without it desu
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>>39454097
>biceps smaller than forearms
Thanks, popeye
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>>39454085
MasT when will we get some fresh back pics?

I need more fap material and full frontals aren't cutting it for me. I need to witness your thicc lats and traps or I can't get off
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>>39454085
Is here hope for me?
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>>39456358
Why not drink the oil itself ?
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>>39456406
Eyyy forgot about that

I'll go shower and mememan it senpai
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where can I get test cream? my friend wants to rub it on his gf so she starts coming to the gym
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mast, how beneficial do you think adding 600mg mast e per week to a 600 test 500 deca cycle would be?

or should I stop fucking around with deca, let it clear for 3 weeks, then do 250 test 500 tren 600 mast recomp
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>>39456474
>not injecting her in her sleep

It's like he doesn't even want to be a homosexual
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>>39456454
lol you look good you have size on you

what are you running
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>>39456410
What brand? I'm using hucog premixed until I run out then I'm switching back to lyophilized ovidac or whatever.
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>>39454176
This kek
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>>39456379
here

https://www.amazon.com/Puritans-Pride-Pumpkin-mg-100-Softgels/dp/B0048F5QZM/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1479582290&sr=8-1&keywords=pumpkin+seed+oil+puritans+pride

>>39456388
someone actually noticed, gz

>>39456410
hcg is an injectable, roit?

>>39456464
im not sure what you mean. The pumpkin seed oil is filled in these caps. You are essentially drinking it when you swallow those caps.

>>39456474
That girl is so fucking hot.
Fucking saved.
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>>39456505
the shit from clearksky pharmacy

https://www.clearskypharmacy.biz/product.php?search=hcg

i use the alpha pharma one and it works

>>39456512
its sub q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ1xuXZ9I_4
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>>39456344
I hope that was a joke about adex, and that you've actually done your research before starting your first cycle?
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>>39456512
https://www.instagram.com/laurenlf/
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>>39455617
>>39455647
>>39455702

What is NAC? also no escorts where i live
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>>39456530
no rebound with adex? everyone says so.

also
>cycle
EBIN MEMES

>>39456534
n-no. I feel like a cuck when i browse insta profiles.
Thanks for pic though
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>>39455722
i h8 ppl who say this
>im gonna try roiding
>if it doesnt work im gonna an hero

like, what a waste of perfectly good roids
>>
>>39455864
>that fucking pic

More like, being /fa/ will limit your options to ONLY the rare girl on the left.

Being /fit/ will let you pick and choose any girl you please from both categories depending on if you want a qt to spend time with or a slut to fuck.
>>
>>39456563
There is a rebound, but not nearly to the extent of waking up the next day with gyno lol
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>>39455878
Fucking synthetics have nothing on LSD

Remember it first came about naturally like mushrooms or weed.
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>>39456575
Who gives a shit
Not like there's a roid shortage
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>>39456561
https://examine.com/supplements/n-acetylcysteine/

you must live in a cave then bro, every place on earth has sex workers

>>39456592
what is the difference in dosages for LSD?

ive only done 100ug and 150ug, gonna try 250ug next time
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>>39456561
>NAC
N acetyl l cystine

>no escorts where i live
Literally impossible. You just don't know where to look.

>>39456523
ReliableRX is cheaper.
>>
>>39456492
natty af atm but wanna get on the gain train am i natty limit yet
>>
>>39456587
uhh yeah, that part was just a joke.

>>39456586
pic was prolly made by some /fa/ cuck
>>
>>39454682
>taking anything on this website serious
>the same website that tells me to mix bleach and amonia for cool crystals
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>>39456604
About 400ug it gets a completely different level.

I had synthenasia at those levels and above.

I was blasting music at a gathering and the trees were bouncing up and down with it.

Had to take a few moments to myself to get my head right though. Then walked for 4 hours to the nearest beach.
>>
>>39456344
Contain that roid rage mister shrunken balls
>>
>>39456604
>>39456607
fuck you guys you dont know me there are no escorts where i live fucking know it all imbeciles
>>
>>39456652
Like we said, literally impossible. Where do you live?
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>>39456674
holy see you cockhead dont you feel stupid now there arent any at all escorts here its maybe one of the only places but there arent and i can only rarely jerk off if im careful but i always use porn so fuck you dickmuncher
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>>39456638
Was it a good experience?

i want to try LSD. I usually dont buy into this "bad trip" meme, exspecially because im a very optimistic and happy person.

Should i have friends around?

Whats the best thing to do when you are tripping?
Is it okay to just do usual shit at home?
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>>39456683
Wtf you mean like Vatican City? Surely you can't be /fit/izen and live in the same city as the Pope.
Do you lift/juice? Whats the story here?
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>>39456652
You can be killed for prostitution in Saudi Arabia and other middle Eastern shitholes yet there are tons of Russian escorts there.
>>
>>39456685
Nah, try and go out and do something, but I find most importantly set and setting.

I've only ever had one bad trip and that was because I got busted by the cops while I was mid trip. I still managed to talk to them fine, convince them I was good to drive and get in the car with a bag of tabs no problem.

But I would consider that a bad trip because I was anxious driving until I got home.


I think the best thing to do is to pick a place with a few close friends you are honest with and make sure it is a place you can just sorta run free, run amok, cause a bit of havoc and get shirtless and music.

Make sure there is good music with a mad beat.

Thats about all. Just dont go doing it at home or in public somewhere.

I used to take it at festivals because you can just run about and get away with anything.

But I wouldnt take it at a shopping mall/friends house. Its very tedious like that.

Dont waste trips on shitty sets/settings.

Wait it out until you "just know" and you will just know. Thats when you dose.

Also keep in mind its 8-12 hours so keep the day free and don't drop too late at night if you wanna sleep/have any potential fear of the dark.
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>>39456692
yeah the vatican city and yeah i juice but i get it sent in from outside and pick it up across the border. nobody suspects anything they just think im "blessed" in the body and i just give them some spiel about how they are blessed in spirit its fucking awesome only downside is all the girls dont want no fuk unless married it sucks
>>
>>39456592
>acid
>natural
>not made in a lab
kys cuck
>>
>>39456737
this is good
really good
you have pics?
>>
>>39456609
how long have you been training
>>
>>39456745
>what is rye?
>what is ergot?
>what is the origin of the term "lunatic"?

im a fucking baker, trust me on this one sonny
>>
>>39456764
almost 2 yrs now
>>
>>39456765
I just googled all those questions and learnt the fuck out of some shit.

Thanks brah.
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>>39456737
So leave vaticuck city and go fuck some Italian hookers. Or helicopter dick on the nude beaches until you attract a mate.
>>
>>39456796
cant dickface my job is here you dont get to leave except for holidays if you work here cockface
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>>39456820
So are you swiss guard or do you work for the state dept? Pumpin iron with the Pope would be cool.
>>
>>39456820
Are the Catholic girls qts? Why not marry one?
>>
>>39456777
height/weight?

wud deepthroot ur cog m8, no homo

if you want to jump on le ebin cattle hormone meme, why dont you just do it?

nothing to stop you.
>>
>was gearing up to buy personal gym equipment.
>was going to put it in an outside shed
>the works with a deadlift platform, heater, fan.
>get into a horrible car accident a month ago
>lucky to be alive
>debilitating back pain that hasn't gotten any better

Why even life lads.
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>>39457014
Stay positive breh. You will make it through.
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>>39457014
>>
>>39457014
>debilitating back pain
Time to join the degenerate heroin addict ranks senpai
>>
god damnit. Every time I pin glutes they bleed even with z-track and airlocking. Reeeeeeeeee I hate losing gear like that.
>>
>>39457345
>z-track
>he actually does this

WEW

The amount of oil that dribbles out is not going to make a difference don't worry

>thigh masterrace
>>
>>39456843
mad guess swiss guard but not as good as you tink best benefits tho
>>39456928
>falling for the marriage meme ever
>>
>>39456971
6'4 109kg
>>
>>39457380
I do pin quads but glutes take 3ml reasonably well despite my shitty pippy test.

I've read a couple places that glutes are being phased out for IM sites because they're so inconsistent.
>>
>>39457345
>>39457380
what is z tracking?
do you really lose gear if you bleed?
cant you just bandage your injection point immediately to keep it in?
does the amount you lose directly relate to your syringe gauge?
if so is this a case for slin pins?
>>
>>39457424
If you're getting bad pip from quads opposed to glutes try adding more oil to your test

Might help
>>
>>39457380
>degenerate tranny hooker with a crippling heroin addiction
>uses the term "thigh" not "quad"

do you even lift?
>>
>>39457430
>what is z tracking?
Useless disregard it's existence

>do you really lose gear if you bleed?
He's referring to when a bit of oil dribbles out alongside it. It's insignificant and nbd don't sweat it

>cant you just bandage your injection point immediately to keep it in?
It comes out as you pull out the needle but again either way it's insignificant

>does the amount you lose directly relate to your syringe gauge?
No but if you're using the wrong size of needles it could cause unnecessary leak or discomfort

>if so is this a case for slin pins?
No; you can't use slinpins for oil based test and it still won't make a difference

Tl;dr - THE SMALL AMOUNT OF OIL THAT MIGHT DRIBBLE OUT AFTER AN INJECTION (USUALLY FROM YOU INVOLUNTARILY FLEXING YOUR MUSCLES) DOESN'T MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE

the end
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>>39457442
Nah it's bad regardless. Something with the test. Volume wise I do .8ml test 1.2ml tren 1ml mast so it's pretty well diluted.
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>>39457444
>crippling heroin addiction

Where the fuck do you retards even make this shit up from

I can tell you're such a gr8 contributer when you're busy trying to nag on me but I'm the one replying ontopic kek
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>>39457492
Shitty deals friend
Best of luck to you with your pins
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>>39457418
are you fucking serious?
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>>39457500
>jerrbears
come to toronto
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>>39457484
woah there, so knowledgeable suddenly.

mirin non-degeneracy
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Found out that the only personal trainer at my gym who is not DYEL is on gear.

The guy is not even that big, like 17" arms at 5ft10 and been lifting 6 years.

Is there any point being natty at all? he uploaded a progress pic and you can clearly see when he hopped on gear look average as fuck before going on.
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>>39457773
So? He makes money marketing himself as knowledgeable on fitness. Best way to do that is to look good.
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>>39457732
Moosey you're STILL here, the fuck you doing with your life? You've been on this all day. Fucking get out doors or something you NEET
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>>39457668
Give me 1k and pay my travel expenses and I'll even bring a friend

>>39457732
I've always talked ontopic in the past retards just yell about no girls allowed!!!! Whenever I chime in unless it's fucking VAR cycles and degeneracy ends up being the only convo I can have

If you read from my first posts in fraud to now you'd see quite the contrast
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>>39457784
Honestly i am just surprised can you actually even look good natty or is it a meme.

I am natty currently, and lifted 4 years i can Pull 6plate and bench almost 3 but im still pretty much DYEL when i get to low bf%.

Thinking about hopping on gear, a bloke i work with has been working out 2 years and has 19" arms claims he is natty but in the last 2 years he has gone bald and is only 22. Is gear really that good.
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>>39457808
Yes it is you're a fuckup if you're not on gear and you take being big seriously.
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>>39457794
but, its saturday anon and i do have a job.

Im playing games all day today though.

>the fuck you doing with your life?

DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>39457522
yeah bro why?
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>>39457808
>can you even look good natty

this is me after 1 year of lifting anon. Natty that is

http://imgur.com/a/cTyLs

I think most people would consider that to be good looking.
Now imagine i lifted for 3 years.

>should i hop on gear
If you look dyel after 4 years of lifting, yes do so
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>>39457822
Good point.

tfw people dont even realize i lift unless i wear a tight top. Whats even the point, i am healthy lean and can outlift most guys in the gym but people still laugh at the idea of me working out.

I have had people actually tell me that lifting isnt working because i am not as big as there "Mate/uncle" who lifted for a year and is jacked. Its irritating as fuck.
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>>39457850

those delts are pretty gud.
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>>39457831
>6'4"
>109 kg lean muscle mass
not even bimbo is that big

Why would you even roid when you are bigger than 95% of the people around you?

Im sorry but i dont believe you. I think you are some random anon posting in his name.
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>>39457850
I dont even know if i am DYEL anymore, i used to think i looked like i lifted but i dont know anymore

I have a 53" shoulders, 43" chest, 32" waist, 15" arms, trex legs and i am leanish have 6pack abs in lighting not so much at the end of a day. 6ft tall.
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>>39457850
>>39457915

I hope that you do not look like that bottom pic now m8.
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>>39457926
serious question?

kek, no

>>39457916
i think a body pic will answer all your questions.

Dont hesitate, we are nice people over here and enjoy to mentally support dyels
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>>39457951
I am to scared senpai, what if i am recognized.

I am starting to think i am a genetic dead end, i have not missed a gym session in 2 years, and count every calorie unless i go out drinking then i am screwed for a few days.

You went from skelly to that first image in a year natty? Fair play that is insane progress.
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>>39457975
recognized? by your upper body? lol

did you buy into the powerlifting meme too much maybe? Im saying that because you are pretty strong.

Hyperthrophy and isolations are kinda important for le asthetic look.

Heck, i didnt do ANY of the 4 main lifts until that point.
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>>39457975
Not sure if i was skelly. I was just plain normal. Not buff or thick at all, but also not auschwitz mode.
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>>39458023
Yes i did buy into the powerlifting meme, i honestly do not know how to write a body building routine for myself and i want to try one.

I am kinda tempted to upload an image, the only one i have that is half decent is from 2 years ago i have not really got any bigger since then just stronger. Just dont know who browses this place.
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>>39454173
Do you have similar swelling in your armpits? Joint pain? I'd probably see a doctor. That could be rather serious.
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>>39458086
>I'd probably see a doctor.
We've tried, anon. He refuses for some reason.
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>>39458099
>>39458086
because hes a fucking idiot. he thinks the doctor will rat him out to his family because they are all close or some shit.

faggot never heard of doctor's confidentiality.
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>>39457915
well i wouldnt say im 100% lean muscle mass but im getting more defined every day i usually hang between 102-105kg but my bigger (that pic) is 109kg i eat about 3500 or more cals a day and I do cardio 3x a week with heavy weights 6 times a week

i have an athletic background but i want to keep gaining and for the last couple of months i feel like im stagnating no matter how hard i push so im wondering if i should get on the juice

im sorry you dont believe me bro
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>>39458132
I think I've figured it out, senpai

Swollenglands lives with his parents always talking about waiting for inheritance, right?

And he doesn't have a job

Argo, he doesn't have THE MONEY to see the proper doctor for his issue

He needs to ask his parents for it

And if he does, they'll want all the deets in exchange (since they are 'doctors') and thus find out he's on roids (probably still wouldn't but he's paranoid)

I'm basing this hypothesis off of the presumption he lives without free health care, anyways
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>>39458086
>see a doctor

oh, you dont even know how many times we told him to do that.

>>39458041
Its just your upper body anon. How can anyone recognize that.
Even if, lets say some buddy recognized your body. How does it matter?

Im a nice guy. I wont hate on you or make fun of you for looking dyel after 4 years of lifting. (or 2 years for that pic you are talking about.).

You wanna know if you are dyel or not, i am going to tell you.

Your choice tho
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>>39457915
6'5
250
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>>39456725
thanks bb, gonna keep that in mind.

>>39458145
again, bimbo has been roiding since years and he is not even as lean or heavy as you.

You look good and you are certainly bigger than everyone around you, exspecially at 6'4".

Thank god for these genetics and be happy. desu if i was you, i wouldnt even think about juicing.
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>>39458188
but anon, bimbo is roiding like fuck, since years.

that guy is natty and has been lifting for 2 years and is way leaner than him.

how can you even compare these two.

i also thought he was 230, not 250
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>>39458188
that fucking shoulder to hip ratio

FUCKING CHRIST
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>>39458216
6'5
250
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>>39458216
i think they are different anons the first pic had a different filename and no tattoo

amazing how many swole anons there are among the tripfags
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>>39458202
yeah but then what do i do im as big as i feel i can get even if i up my cals by 500 i just start turning into bearmode with no noticeable muscle gains so if i dont juice should i just maintain i kinda wanna leave humanity behind but i worry about the sides ruining what i have achieved already i dunno im stuck between a rock and a hard place i really wanna juice and get swole as fuck while staying lean but i guess this place fucked me up with dysmorphia i still feel like im barely above ottermode
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>>39454162
>implying masT hasnt shown in his face in that cute bubble butt pic

#getrekt
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>>39458271
not sure what you mean, but both of these pics

>>39458261
>>39458188

is bimbo, thats for sure

there is a tattoo in the second pic
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>>39458293

>barely above ottermode

how can you say that when you dwarf everyone around you.

being 109kg muscle at 6'4" is insane dude.
maybe your pic is just fooling me with le lighting and myspace angles, who knows.

i wouldnt worry about the side effects. Doing a basic 500mg test e cycle for 20 weeks will not harm you at all.

If you are not being retarded, that is.
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>>39458175
As tempting as it is to get an honest opinion i fear that if i am recognized it may have negative repercussions that may lead to me losing my job etc.

Plus if someone recognized me and read the conversation they would think i am a faggot, i would rather just wait and send in unlinked to this.

And i am drunk.
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>>39458375
>And i am drunk.
Eyyyyy cheers m8
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>>39458333
awesome trips from a trip
alright im gonna take the literal plunge then
i know a bro who can get me a few vials i can get 3-5 should i go for 5 and really push my body to its limits?
i wanna try and hit the rocks level that was always my goal body will 500mg test e for 20 weeks get me there? isnt it meant to be better to blast and cruise? i already have ai on hand
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>>39458472
th-thanks mate might go out and get a bag of coca cola.

yolo
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>>39458489
>the rock
>500mg teste
>20 week

oh buddy....
>>
whats your guys opinion on running low amounts of tren (100mg) alongside 500mg test?
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>>39458489
jesus no...you wont get rocks level with 20 weeks of 500mg test e.

There is no amount of steroids that can get you there that quickly.

I think you need to taper down your roid expectations bro. They are magic, but they arent THIS magic
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>>39458502
Lmao have fun. Never really got into coke.
I like drugs that slow my roll not speed it up.
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