daily reminder >cave exploration is the manliest sport o

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also

THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED FOR FATSOS

BTFO

>>39297135

Nope.gif

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>>39297121
>being able to fit into caves

>>39297121
I'm claustrophobic

>>39297205

Who needs to be able to fit in a cave in a nuke fight? All you have to do is push a button. Sir.

This shit just seems retarded to me. It's less physically active than shit like rock climbing because the cave walls are supporting your weight pretty much at all times, you just need to be thin enough to fit in them. It can't be strategically stimulating (e.g. coming up with a plan to get through the cave) unless you find those shape blocks that toddlers play with fascinating since the thought process boils down to "can you fit in this hole?". And it's not like hiking trails or some shit where there's at least interesting views along the way since all you're looking at is fucking rocks the entire time unless you find a cave oasis or something, which will likely have a less retarded way to get to in the first place.

Seems like a shit hobby, desu senpai

>>39297225
If you disable his cave he cannot hide form the nuke.

>>39297319
> it's not like hiking trails or some shit where there's at least interesting views along the way
>find a cave oasis or something

U ARE SUCH A PUSSY
JESUS CHRIST

>>39297347
ikr it's like he isn't even a masochist.

>>39297356
i bet he likes lifting

itt the monster from ted the caver has gotten hungry and is baiting for gains

>>39297347
>U ARE SUCH A PUSSY
Actually the opposite. My dick is too big that I can't fit in most cave holes. Although I had no problem fitting into ur mum last nite, m8

>>39297121
I'm not some narrow shouldered DYEL that can fit in some small hole.

>>39297375
dont talk about my mom,
just dont do it again or im gonna get serious

>>39297383
u are fat
get out

>>39297121
your video makes me think you would get the same sort of psychological pleasure from cave exploring that you get from pushing out a huge poop, but externalized and full body experienced vicariously through the cave, like you have become the shit you want to relive yourself of.

>>39297416
DELETE THIS!!!

>>39297121
except for the fact that you have to be a dyel to get in those small as fuck caves like op's pic

dyel does not equal manliness

>>39297121
getting severe anxiety watching this, and I'm not even claustrophobic

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>>39297416
So what would you call it if someone got the shits while getting stuck in a cave?

>>39297135
This kills the John

>>39297343
kek

>>39297135
It took 137 people to rescue some retard who decided to go down a place where he could get stuck upside down. At a certain point, you should just let people kill themselves

>>39297523
I guess that would make it the Nutty Potty Cave

>>39297121
>forcing yourself through a tight, dark, slimy hole
>manly

Wanna know how I know you're a fag?

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dats sick

>>39297135
>>39298066
N O P E

N O P E

N O P E

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>Not cave diving
Pussy

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>>39298204
Pic related

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>>39297135

>>39298066
aww yeaaa, post dat story

>>39298222
How do you get kill when cave diving?

>>39298239
The cave creature gets you

>>39297677
he died anyways so i guess it all works out

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>>39298239
Get lost. Stir up shit and can't find your way out. Die of decompression sickness where your blood turns to bubbles. Breathe the wrong gas at Depth and you'll have a seizure and drown. Have your lights fail. Have something happen where you lose gas in your tanks and you can't make it out. Have the cave reverse flow and suck you 400+ feet deep 5000 feet back into the cave. Hit your head.


Literally 1000's of easy ways to die.

This thread is making me claustrophobic

>>39298290
https://youtu.be/PVmqK5YZuxM

Old ass video giving some examples of how easy it is to fuck up and die whilst cave diving

>>39297135
just to add to this, they actually got him partially out and started celebrating cause the most difficult bit was over and it was all going to be ok
he even spoke to his wife at this point
then the rope snapped and he fell back in

>>39297121
I've done regular cave exploring ( I.e. basically mine shafts) and that was fun, but I don't see the appeal to trying to squeeze through rock, get stuck, and die.

>>39298355
>Then he fell back in

Fuckin a

>>39298066
why the fuck do these idiots do this

>>39298204

> THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS CAVE WORTH DYING FOR!
> DO NOT GO BEYOND THIS POINT

well now I'm convinced there's treasure

>>39297135

> Don't wan't to break his legs
> Dead is better

I work in technical rescue. I would have advocated breaking his legs after hour three.

Twenty six hours? Fucking cowboys.

/x/ here

http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/page1.html

Enjoy your caves, /fit/.

>>39297121
I'm not claustrophobic but one of my many fears is being trapped in a right tunnel where I can't move my arms. I would die just from panic

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wanna livestream this movie
lets watch together, fags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSYg7Z1KS_I

>cavediving

sorry im not a retarded white person

>>39298665
I think I read they were worried the shock/blood loss would kill him

>>39298313
Did his face die cave diving?

>>39298799
one of my fav movies
good stuff

>>39298355
Source?

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>>39298724
Get spooked /fit/ CMON

Caving is much more strenuous than hiking. I burn approximately 5000 calories per hour. Caving is like hiking except you are underground and you have to climb over rocks constantly and water is a bigger Danger then it is on the surface. Not all caves require crawling and squirming. I live in the southern caving Mecca known as the Cumberland plateau. We have everything here from tight miserable caves to massive boreholes. Lots of caves required vertical access using rope or climbing up near vertical faces. The deepest cave in Tennessee is around seven hundred feet deep. the deepest pit in Tennessee is approximately 300 feet deep. Caves have lots of pretty stuff to look at and contain mini fossils and unique geologic formations. The most important thing to remember about cave exploration is that if you become injured you may very well die because rescue takes many hours compared to above the surface and the cave environment is constantly 58 degrees.

>>39297135
> the natty patty

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>go into cave
>get skin stolen

>>39297474
I want to try it someday but I can't get over how low the oxygen might be in there

>>39297121
>Are you small enough, /fit/?

ftfy

>>39299301
Sorry, we can't read good

>>39297135
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705347362/Man-trapped-in-Utah-Countys-Nutty-Putty-cave-dies.html

uhh, he died though? Why is this picture implying they rescued him?

>>39299754
It's not implying that.

It's showing how the poor bastard suffered and died extremely slowly in a horrible place in a horrible position.

>>39299771
And what some may not realize

all the blood pooling in his brain would have forced him to stay conscious the entire time

so if you're going caving

I'd bring a gun to finish myself just in case

I'll do some crazy shit, but the last thing I'd ever want to do is drop face first into some narrow ass hole. That sounds like an absolutely god awful way to go.

>>39298231
NOPE

>manliest sport
>not mountain zorbing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKEuQ__9rmk

>>39298231
Did he died?

>>39298368
Mines are not playgrounds

Don't fuck around in them

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_aMAlAaeU

>>39298290
This nigga knows what's up.
Went cave diving in those huge open caves in south america that go literally miles until the ocean.
Our goal was from one popular opening until another a ways down.
We had glow sticks that we regularly dropped like bread crumbs and we were required to stay in sight of eachother at all times.

Literally one of the most terrifying moments of my life, without a guide I could see how someone could die easily, let alone still having a high chance of death with even an experienced cave diver.
I've jumped out of airplanes, climbed up and through caves, climbed mountains, all kinds of shit.
Cave exploring is pretty close, but cave diving...
You'll get tired out pretty easy, it feels freezing, and everything looks 100% the same.

>>39298724
Not falling for that shit again, 2 spooky 4 me mate.

>>39297121
This is only possible if you are naturally thin. I have massive legs and a huge rip cage. There is no way my body will be able to crawl through a cave like that.

>>39297135
Holy fuck I couldn't breathe while I read that

>>39298277
what the fuck

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705347362/Man-trapped-in-Utah-Countys-Nutty-Putty-cave-dies.html?pg=all

son of a bitch

>>39297135
Didn't he die? I remember an anon saying they kinda just flooded the hole he was in.

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>>39297121
>that video
what is wrong with these people

>>39297121
what is they hit a dead end?...is there a rope tied to their feet?

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>>39297121
>manliest sport
>literally mostly lying down squeezing through tight spaces

Not only is this not active, it's fucking terrifying. I think this is honestly one of the worst ways to die. Imagine just crawling through and getting STUCK in some dank space where you can barely move and it's impossible to turn around. It makes me uncomfortable just thinking about it. I think I'd rather burn to death or drown than be subject to that shit.

>>39301037
>literally mostly lying down squeezing through tight spaces
so sex isnt manly?

>>39301049
HAHAHAHA good one!

But with sex you're thrusting! Sometimes moving around a lot and throwing around a girl, that shit gets your heart rate up!

>>39301037

it's happened quite a few times,

>>39297392
Why so defensive about the old cave hole, man?

>>39299809

> Go caving
> Bring gun to kill self in case things go wrong
> Get stuck upside down
> Arms pinned against sides
> Can't reach gun

>>39301037
I've gone caving, there are a lot of less scary caves than this one with a lot more space and it can be really fun

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>>39302102

>>39300884

He died in there. His remains are still there. They've blocked off that section since, though.

fml ive just been reading several pages about this topic and caving in general. Super interesting and scary, which excites me! Chances are I would have done this if I wouldn't have lifted. Now with 245 pounds its not gonna be that easy anymore

>>39299309
>5000 calories per hour

>>39297135
This story makes me feel physically ill every single time.

>>39298204
I'm going for a cave dive at fish rock at the end of the year, wish me luck

>>39299309
>5000 calories
>burns more calories than rowing
Kill yourself pls

>>39297135
it's really fucked up, probably the worse possible death I can imagine.

Feel bad for Kowallis having to hear his screams and cries in his nightmares forever.

>"THAT HOLE WAS MADE FOR ME"

>>39300884
They didn't flood the hole, they concreted over the entrance after he died.

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>>39297135
>Be faggot cave explorer
>Get entombed in a cave
>It's the Nutty fucking Putty Cave

>>39303280
I know this reference. What was the story called though? I can't remember.

>>39303707
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=That+hole+was+made+for+me

>>39297135

I read the full detailed account. The main rescuer got his face totally fucked up when a pulley wrenched free of the wall, broke his jaw and filled his face with stone shrapnel, he had to tap out early.

Dude died in there with a skull full of blood, talking to his wife who wasn't there. Still down there too, they blocked the tinnel with him still in it. No way to die, alone, starving, cold, upside down in the dark with your brain shutting down.

>>39303707
the enigma of amigara fault


DDDDDDDDRRRRRRRRRRR

>>39303725
>>39303766
It's more popular than I thought I suppose, thank you though.

>>39298066
I always find this image a bit disturbing.

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>mfw this whole thread
I'm not that claustrophobic but man, i would never be able to do this shit, i'd be too scared of one of them tiny ass tunnels collapsing just enough to get me stuck, how the fuck do people do this?

>>39303812
they die

>>39303812
By being skeleton instead of 4SCOOPS

>>39303618
lmfao

Why the fuck would i go caving when i already did it on my way into this world?


>>39298617
seconded. if WW3 ever broke out and i liquidated all my assets into gold ingots, id probably find somewhere like that to store it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAY-t32vyds

yikes

>>39299754
a better question is why they wasted effort getting his body up

should just wait a few months till he is mummified and pull him up then.

>>39299309
>5000 calories an hour

>there are 4 calories per gram of fat
>there are 4000 calories per kilo of fat
>for every hour caving, you lose a kilogram

holy shit, do i have to fat load before caving or something

should i bring a few sticks of butter?

this is fucked up

im out of here

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>>39297135
Damn. Didn't know the story.

>>39297319
I agree in part, you need to be in shape for most trials. Arms and legs should me trained hard. Also, climbing is part of the job, so....

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>>39304027
>there are 4 calories per gram of fat
>there are 4000 calories per kilo of fat
>for every hour caving, you lose a kilogram
Literally every one of these statements is wrong

>>39297343
Now I have to go watch Starship Troopers.

Not even mad.

>>39304027
>there are 4 calories per gram of fat

anon no there are 9 kcal/gram

>>39298231
TELL ME THAT'S REVERSED
PLEASE

>>39298799
Never watched it but really want to.

>>39304731
Nope, rip in peace.

>>39304731
>>39305380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI0GIMQANtY

"While out diving in Maui, one diver was sucked out into the open ocean by a dangerous swell. After being pulled out, he was able to swim safely back to his group."

>>39298724
>>39299301
>http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/page1.html
Who the fuck would read all that shit with the horrible page design and formating? Though I am interested in those fucking chickens. What do they know that we dont?

>>39298724
Fuck you for making me read that again. Good read though

What's the purpose of caving? There's nothing in these barely-moveable areas, so why risk your life?

>>39297523
Inception

>>39297121
Nope. If I had to choose between climbing through a cave like that and becoming a sissy I'd buy the wig and wax my boipussy today.

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>>39298799
This movie is great. Besides the horror plot, there's an actual approach to speleology that really creeps you out.

>>39304529

mah nigga i fucking love this movie

and i love it even more that they changed the anti-war narrative of the book for a pro-war one in the movie

>>39307260
You've got that the wrong way around lad, it's the book that was all about dat war.

>>39298799
Stream it right now, lad.

>>39298204
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY HIDING?

>>39307329

i dont agree at all, man, but i would like to know your thoughts on it.

i think it is anti-war, the consequences all derive from mistakes made in the urge to pursue aggression. to me even the cadets dying in training are an example of "the cost" of war

i don't agree with it at all, too, war is great btw

>>39298799
>>39307343
This.
Let's watch the damn movie c'mon son.

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>>39303740
why didnt they just kill him before they closed the cave?

>>39307749
Because

>>39297474
Same, fuck.

>>39297135
>>39298355
At least he already used up a lifetime's supply of fear and pure unadulterated terror so there's no gas left in the tank to give any fucks about anything for the rest of his life.

>>39308369
Nevermind I didn't see the part where he ded. RIP John.

>>39301037
Drowning sounds like a fucking visit to the candy store compared to this shit.

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>>39307260
>badass evil insects from space
>Denise Richards at her prime
>blood and blood and blood
>Paul Verhoeven
>Argentine hero (white)

Can't help falling in love.

>>39303947
>9:40
>when the ass is too fat

>>39307260
The book wasn't anti-war, ya dingus. And the movie was satire

>>39298665
>i work in technical rescue
>i would advocate killing him from shock
Sounds like youre pretty great at your job

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>>39307260
>they changed the anti-war narrative of the book for a pro-war one in the movie

>>39307396
>implying Heinlein was anti-war
>implying Starship Troopers wasn't the first Sc--Fi book to become recommended reading at West Point
>implying the movie is anything like the book

iirc the director read like half of the book and said he didn't like it. He took out the suits, which make the book what it is.

The 'metal gorillas' have been inspiration for weapons designers for decades

>>39297367

Kek how does this not have any (you)s

>>39297135
>>39298355
>Once Jones was free of the 18-by-10-inch crevice, rescuers said an "equipment failure" caused the rope system that was hoisting the man out of the cave to drop him back into the same, narrow gap.
Holy shit

>>39297121
I'm getting claustrophobia just looking at that picture

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>>39297135
Enjoy your feels...

>>39297135
Apparently, there's been a movie made...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865659429/Utah-Nutty-Putty-Cave-accident-to-be-depicted-in-new-film-The-Last-Descent.html?pg=all

>>39309042
The movie was outrageously better than the book by a long shot.

Pissed me off they cut out the power armor, talking dogs and psychics doing literally anything though.

>>39305821
The know where the feed was put on the ground. They are eating that way because the owner spread feed in a spiral to make them stand in that shape while eating.

>>39310716
Had a baby, and his wife was pregnant with a 2nd one when he died.

>>39297121
First criteria for something to be manly is that it doesnt sound gay.

Cave exploring sounds gay as fuck. It can never be the epitome of manliness.

Still I respect the hell out of anyone brave enough to do it, but it sounds gay.

>>39297121
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYEKhgFrpd4

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooooooooooooooooooooou

Why would you post that? Holy shit, I'm never going to get to sleep tonight.

>>39307749
because that would be considered murder

>>39312628
what a selfish asshole for doing dangerous shit like that when he had a wife and kid to feed

>>39312683
I kind agree man. I'd never be able to do this kind of shit.

>>39297319
>It's less physically active than shit like rock climbing

I don't think that's true. Watching that godawful video OP posted, they're clearly using all sorts of muscles absolutely all the time, shimmying along like a snake.

Climbing definitely takes strength, and effective climbing uses muscles you probably don't use much (e.g. core for stability, hamstring to pull your lower body up the wall), but goddamn. At least on a climb you can just fucking give up and rappel down. Exhausted halfway through a cave route? You're fucked. Gotta make it through to turn around and go back. Jesus Christ, I'm getting anxious.

>>39312669

If I were to do anything like this, I'd keep a tank of argon in my trunk. I'd request that, in the event I was trapped, that they crack the argon open and drop it down where I am. Hopefully it would flood and displace all air and I'd asphyxiate happily within a few minutes.

>>39298617
>>39303916
>>39307362
/v/eddit needs to fucking leave.

>>39298724
This is going to be a screamers isn't it

>>39312785
>>39298724
bump what is it /fit/ I wanna see

>>39312856
I don't see what's stopping you from checking it out yourself.

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>>39312863
could be 2spooky4 me

>>39297135
>>39309938
he apparently left the group to explore alone. why the fuck would you do that? how do these people even know where these tunnels will take them? youre pretty much fucked if you hit a dead end

Anyone stupid enough to do this completely deserve their fate.

>>39307260
The book was about sacrifice for the grater good, honor, family and spess mehreens, the movie was about HUMANITY FUCK YEAH.

>>39312897
No jumpscares, it'a a good read. Go and read it and starship troopers too.

>>39307396
>pursue aggression
Confirmed for not reading the book.
Gigant spoders with roid clits were attacking us because of competition for real state and resources.
Buy a farm.

>>39297319

even if you do find an oasis it's likely to be teeming with hydrogen sulphide or something similarly toxic

>>39297523

defecate in silicate

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>>39299387

>>39298355

who was co-ordinating the rescue? Charlie chaplin?

>>39298617
kek

>>39313384
>poop mummifies
>some new new age hipster finds it years later
>yeah man, feel the power of the cristal, man

>>39313461
You could almost call it some new age shit

>>39310716
I'll fill the hole he left in her

>>39299387
fuck this thread

im out of here

>>39297121
>cave exploration
>too much of a pussy to do UNDERWATER cave exploration

I also play russian roulette every single day when I wake up.

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>>39299387

>>39298799
>https://youtu.be/CSYg7Z1KS_I

It scares me but also calls me

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>>39298799
>1:15
hahahaha NOPE

>squeezing through tight, manly holes
sounds pretty fuckin gay to me

>>39298066

DRR... DRR... DRR

>>39304027

You go in fat, lube yourself up with butter so you can get your lard through the tight squeezes, then when you're /fit/ again, you turn around and breezily follow your butter snail-trail back the way you came and lap it up along the way so you don't die of starvation.
What's so hard to understand?

>>39312617
Oh come on, why couldnt you make up some chicken conspiracy?

>>39309938
>>39298355
NONONONONO

>>39310807
WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO DO AND SEE IT?!

Holy shit, and the cave just had to have a stupid name, too, way to add insult to injury. But it does kinda take the edge off, so maybe that was the lord's intention.

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>>39301037
Ok, let me tell you why spelunking is pretty much 100% /fit/ manly sport. I'm getting my MC license in eastern europe as of now so know a few things.

>it's defined as extreme sport, need regular medical checkups
>cave actions can last from 6-8 hours to couple of days underground in the cold wet dark, just like your mom's vagina
>you have to take all your poop back to surface, else it will stink as fuck in caves, also be careful where you pee
>most caves are in the mountains[sic!], you have to carry ~20kg(44lbs) or more of gear per person up the fucker for few hours just to reach a hole, if it isnt fit defined I dont know what is
>gearing up the rope in 100m well
it's 2:16 on this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MoWGyrzBUw

>>39314892
Faggy as fuck.

>>39314892
>spelunking
urgh, it even sounds like spunking

>>39300415
You can easily tell the bald guy is big. Fault's on the the guide, he shouldn't let him access the cave.

>the scare of his life

>Would get panic attacks

Fuck that sorry folks

>>39298239
One time a dude from bulgaria got lost and shortly before running out of oxigen he stabbed himself in the heart with a knife to spare himself from the pain of drowning.

>>39297121
I've went caving a few times, its a blast. Very peaceful and fun.

I don't understand the need to go down these insanely tight passages though. There's nothing to see.

>be EXTREME SPELUNKER
>so EXTREME I just squeeze my body through tiny holes
>see EXTREME things like dirt and tunnel to the left I can get stuck in and die

wow sounds like fun

>>39300881
Fucking hell, that was terrible to read.

Imagine having to explain to your daughter that your dad died like a moron in a place called nutty putty cave.

>>39297135
If only he was a DYEL manlet, they they could have probably got him out.

>>39315287
fuck this earth

>>39315410

He didn't even have buddies telling him they were gonna get him out of there.

>>39298231
>tfw just went open water diving with nothing but snorkels on with friends
>right beside an underwater cliff, close to a shipping lane
Welp guess that was the last time doing that shit.

>>39315287

>you are now aware various scavengers probably began eating him before he died.

>>39315602
>you are now aware most animals start eating their prey before it's dead

>>39315860
>>39315602
>you will never take down a moose and eat it ass first as it screams in pain and eventually goes into shock

>>39297135

holy fucking shit, this is some final destination level

>>39315287
Oh shit

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>>39315287
>>39315410
>>39316326
You're gonna love this.
>Lacking the surgical equipment to save her from the effects of an amputation, the doctors present agreed that it would be more humane to let her die.

>>39297121

seems to be a good method for retards to get themselves killed

i mean, i like adrenaline sports, i get skydiving and shit like that, but cave crawling just seems boring

>>39300881
The rescuers are celebrating and eating PIZZA while john is being DROPPED back down into the same tunnel to his DEATH

>>39303177
Goodbye, sweet prince

>>39316813
I'd be happy to be done with that bullshit too

>>39316813

kek

>>39316358
Once again, another situation solved by breaking legs

>>39297135
Damn, I spent last half a day reading about that story and watching videos. Extremely powerful stuff.

>>39317994
what did u learn?

>>39318417
He died apparently, other than that nothing new.

>>39317920
You're not solving anything if your solution is also killing the person.

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>>39297135

First of all
>sport
Second of all
>being small enough to fit into those little anuses of the earth
>being /fit/
Pick one

>>39297135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiHRSBAMwU

>www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/376ln6/my_experiences_as_a_cave_surveyor/
i love me some caving spooky stories

>>39315287
Did he die?

>>39315141

this, like i'd go checkout a cave i could walk around and stuff. that's cool. caves are cool.

but shimmying into fucking cracks in the ground, no thank you.

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Is this now a creepy caves thread?

>>39298066
>doing this for fun

>>39310716
Story happened in 2009. I wonder how many guys she's fucked since.

>>39321192
All of them.

>>39308708
>argentine hero (white)
>tfw white hollywood swapped out the filipino main hero for a white one

>>39297135
Ahh hell nah...

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>>39298066
IT'S COMING THIS WAY

DRR DRR DRR

>>39297121
people who do this should be gassed

releases the zyklon and seal up the caves

make america safe again

>>39321065
its been

>>39321403
not me...

>>39307749
They didn't fucking close it off while he was alive kek, he was long dead before they closed it.

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>>39297121
The cave divers who went back for their friends

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36097300

>>39322130
Did you make you appointment?

>>39315602

I went to bed minutes before this was posted and I'm so glad I didn't see it. I had nightmares about spelunking anyway, but still.

>>39322300
perkele :DD

>>39298231

>split fins

He had it coming t b h

>>39322300
Brutal. Anyone got more of stories like this?

>>39297121
A tight cave like that metaphorically represents vagina, meaning that those "men" just want to be babies again.

[spoiler]Do whatever the fuck you want, shaming threads like that serve only to your own detriment.[/spoiler]

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>>39297121
4:57.......

>>39310716
I'd nut in her putty

>>39307260
Thanks fucker, now I have to re-read the goddamned book for the bazzilionth time.

Every time some asshole mentions it, I read it again. Why can't I just forget?...

>>39322130
Then again, neither did anyone else.

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>>39297319

>can you fit in this hole?

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Yo, bro. Let's go swimming.

>>39314813
no people need to see this shit

>>39298204

Tangentially related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzhi5a0M3jM