Considering how obsessed with the opposite sex /fit/ is, why

PUA doesn't work on twinks

>>39192763

What does?

>>39192747
Too beta to even try?

I don't know, I've only read Models, and seriously, there's nothing there any normal doesn't know, it must be targeted to really insecure and socially awkaward dudes.

PUA irl: make an effort to look good, just have balls once in a while, try to be/have (non-clownish) fun, don't feel upset or ashamed if you are rejected.

>>39192747
PUA is just too autistic even for the standards of /fit/.

>>39192747
Because we're all too autistic to talk to girls

>>39192747
Because PUA are a meme

PU is too fucking hard, you'd have greater chances with a circle of friends

>>39192747
>opposite sex
Top kek

>>39192747

because PUA is too tryhard, comes off as beta, even if some of the shit works

putting in that much effort to get laid with some skanky club slut isn't very manly

> Considering how obsessed with the opposite sex /fit/ is

> opposite sex

Op i don't think you...

actually i had practised pua on my own,19 yo now.It worked great honestly and i met a ton of girls.Tinder is not an option for me since its not popular here and i figured giys nowadays are too much of a pussy to do cold approaches and rely only on social media to get girls.Anyways,i got some action but after a while i noticed that all of this is just an act,im not really that way,i always put up a fake persona appearing more interesting and entertaining that i actually was.I used almost the same jokes and openers,kinda pathetic desu so i stopped.Idk if that happens with anyone else but i prefer the whole proccess of getiing the interest of a woman than actually getting to be with her,i basically stopped contacting most of them after i thought i got her interested-they appeared shallow for getting invested in a persona like mine,besides im not even into girls that easy of a way.In my mind,if she accepted my approach she probably has with almost everyone else and that kills my motive,i dont want a gf like that.(side not,if you are really not the guy youre pretending to be sooner or later the girls will find out and they will leave you if that whats attracted them in the first place).

Wtf is PUA?

>>39192747
sorry to disappoint you, but I'm busy leaving humanity behind.

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If people on this board knew how to talk to women they wouldn't need to lift

>>39193505
pick up artist desu

>>39193535
>can talk casually to 9/10's even before I started lifting

>now trying to get ripped to ascend to chad mode

>>39192747
cause PUA is for faggots

/fit/ is about self improvement. PUA is kind of about wallowing and being a worse person.

>>39192747
>be ugly

>try PUA

>get rejected harsh

Why did I even try in the first place.

>>39193631
i think youre being a little harsh to yourself

>>39192747
>Considering how obsessed with the opposite sex /fit/ is

What?

>>39192747
PUA is for betas.

>>39193647
he's not being harsh enough

Because there's a lot of /pol/acks here and PUA is degenerate

the general concensus on /fit/ is that pua is cringy but self improvement through social gains is good.

PUA has a lot of different things associated with it. Some of it is (or should be) normal, common sense advice for picking up girls. The things that are not standard, common sense stuff are usually really cringy/awkward/fucked up.

>>39192747
>Considering how obsessed with the opposite sex /fit/ is

eeh not really, /fit/ has a lot of /r9k/ immigrants, they're 90% of the ones whining about being losers, then there are those that have browsed fit for years and never lifted a weight or been in the gym for longer than one month consecutively

>>39195943
this, /fit/ is a national socialist board

>>39193583
So why isn't there a bigger PUA culture on this board?

>>39193207
fkn this

>>39196633

homo/gay is not the same as faggot

>not just reading Pook

>>39196708
I feel like his book reads as more a guide to his loss of sanity.

>>39192766
money

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>be the absolute apex of autism and inability to engage with anyone
>read many, many social interaction guides and social anxiety help books
>go to place where people are, classes, icebreakers, college socials etc
>just stand on the outer rim of where everyone else is and occasionally try to say something relevant but its always autistic and retarded and i get ignored

it doesnt work

>>39192747
Because most of them actually think that being fit should be enough, even if they're socially inepts.

>>39193186
this

>>39193193
this
The only thing PUA's have that normies don't is no fear of rejection. These fags don't care if they get shot down 19 times in one night as long as girl #20 falls for it. Everything else is just a marketing scheme to sell books and seminars to insecure betas.

>>39192747
PUA is pure cope from autistic incels.

Do you think Chad has to "neg"?
Do you think Chad gets a "shit test"?
Do you think Chad has to "peacock"?

I've found some PUA tips helpful. As long as you don't get all militant about it, there is nothing wrong with understanding their points.

>>39196999
I think chad tends to do those things quite naturally.

This is the funniest part about pua on /fit/

Almost everyone here derides it, but they all know the terminology inside and out. It's almost like they tried and failed miserably and are now buttmad about it.

Top kek

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>>39197037
Cope. Pure fucking cope.
"M-maybe I can learn do what Chad does!" No. You can't, because he doesn't have to do anything.

Chad does not need to do any of these things because he's Chad.
He has height, face, frame.

I guarantee you no girl has EVER given pic related a shit test.

>>39192747
you better pick up some weights than artists

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>>39196999
>>39197111

welp, trips confirm.
Time to visit Gandy.

>>39197038
It has like 3 unique terms and gets made fun of constantly. Anyone here paying attention will know everything about it after a couple threads like this.

>>39197111
LoL, hot girls are pretty confident, I'm sure they give him a little shit as that's something all hot women do at some point of meeting a potential mate, at least in my experience.

>>39197154
Are you even close to Gandy in terms of looks?
If not, your "experience" is worthless.

>>39193175
You have to understand that finding someone to fuck seems like you need some sort of magic skill if you're a virgin/autistic.
I'm struggling with this right now - I've started to talk to girls with intent now for all of 10 days, and I'm amazed at how well they react when you just make the effort to show a little interest.
I'm thinking more and more that improving youself to the point where lots of girls are attracted to you and you are capable of meeting them may have been the actually hard part - it doesn't require anything special to actually fuck a girl once she's attracted to you, right?

>>39193501
Or you could just improve yourself to the point where you don't have to put on a fake persona, then use your lack of fear of rejection to get laid like a motherfucker without having to fake anything.

>>39197111
>height,face,frame
This meme is just as retarded as PUA - only that the PUAs at least try to do something instead of exuding the disgusting stench of pure defeatism.
Chad simply has a life, therefore he doesn't really need to give a fuck whether he gets laid or not and is capable of just having fun with girls independent if the interaction gets him laid or not. Also self-respect and actual confidence born out of actually BEING someone helps alot.

>>39193647
He's gonna have to post pics, i swear some of you white people try to look like shit.

>>39193647
He's gonna have to post pics, i swear some of you white people try to look like shit.

>>39192747
PUAs are fags

the whole idea of a community focusing on girls is sad tbqh nightfamalan

ironically the more you focus on improving your life outside of getting women, the more women you usually end up with

>>39197691
and Im a virgin

here's the thing, guys.

when i was 19 or so, i was still recovering from the insane middle school/high school religiosity that had me preaching abstinence in the hallways and wanting to become a destitute prophet in life.

i went through several insanely cringy crushes on girls and stuff. had no idea how anything worked. thought if i was really nice and did things for a girl, they'd come after me or something. retardation.

one day i read 'the game' by neil strauss, and then more PUA stuff i torrented, watched davids videos and stuff.

it changes your entire perspective and for a lot of people is a harsh awakening out of a completely retarded perspective on the opposite sex and human sexual behavior in general.

the gimmicks and stuff, that might actually help someone who is basically autistic. (just not for the reasons they think it will).

but if you're a fairly well equipped guy with a head full of shit about human sexual behavior, this stuff, it can completely flip you upside down.

true enlightenment is hating women for what they are. if this doesn't turn you gay, you become capable of abusing them, and if that doesn't get you in jail, you become sexy to them because your strained tolerance of their pathetic existence comes off as an erotic arrogance. any interaction you deign to have with them will really interest them. but, your hatred must be pure and true, it has to pump through your heart and in your veins.

>>39196999

he doesn't have to but he does these things naturally. the point is to get guys to recognize what is going on, to imitate it, and eventually replicate it. the good teachers out there constantly try to impress upon the poor saps that 'what they are teaching is not what they are teaching'.

>>39197425

exactly, the actual value of this shit is simply the transmission of the idea that it's not magic.

>>39197812
>True enlightenment is hating women for what they are
Nope, it's just the height of being completely fucked in the head. If that's what you need to have confidence and self-respect in your dealings with them , you're pitiful at best.

Realize that women are just like sexier, more fragile dudes. Everyone has insecurities, hangups, and unsavoury features about them. You shouldn't put pussy on a pedestal, but it's equally retarded to look at women with contempt and anger.

Just treat girls like dudes you can fuck. You'll be a lot happier, actually get laid, and get some meaningful relationships.

>>39197949

This is excellent advice, women want to be treated the same way you treat you good buddy Chris. Just some real personal bonding .

>>39197949
>Just treat girls like dudes you can fuck

But they're boring. Dudes I wanna hang out with have opinions, a world view, hobbies, personal interests, sense of humor, they take initiative and make decisions, if they have a problem they first try to solve it themselves before resulting to asking for help - women are NOTHING like that, in fact the vast majority of them are the complete opposite.

>>39197899
Reward this mangina with a sex!

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>>39197812
edgy

>>39193191

We're all gonna make it

>>39198300
>tfw this is soul crushingly true

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>>39193594
PUA is about mental improvement. But its so big that anyone can take whatever they want. Some of it's message is to be a man that people want to spend time and girls want to fuck That doesn't mean to be pretending. You just can try t self improve to be that person.

Obviously people may focus just on openers, approaches and getting a quick fuck. But if they want that, why not just go to NLS

>>39193203

PUA requires approaching girls, thus has a chance of rejection. fit/ prefers eight years of backbreaking hard work lifting literal tons of iron, to avoid being rejected.

>>39197812
>ex religious nut
>literally hates half of the earth's population because he's bitter
>"look guys i have it all figured out"

you are pathetic and fucked in the head, and it saddens me you will never understand how borderline retarded you sound.

really your post summarizes why everyone thinks PUA stuff is so fucking cringy. literally a tumblr feminist who hates all men, turned upside down.

>>39197500
Just be more kunfident bruh

Fucking lol at you retards who actually believe this

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beyond common sense advice like "don't put girls on a pedestal", pua is mostly nonsense

if you're attractive, successful, not autistic, girls will like you. if you're not, they won't, no matter how many approach strategies (or whatever) you study

in fact, reducing social interaction to a bunch of lines you stole from a book and analyzing every conversation you have will only make you more of a sperg

>>39199671
cut a bit too close to home there pal.
I'm willing to approach and get rejected once in a while but I think I need to know how to do so with at least a chance of success.
Lets say I meet a qt shopping for my broccoli and chicken, and I see she's got healthy food too, maybe I comment on it, and by chance she doesn't RREEE at me or find a reason to leave, where do I go form there?
Can you give me a bulleted outline like you might for an actual retard?
Its like I talk to new people, not just women, just new and my wit goes out the window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zF90Jg3uCo
>watch this shit. Jordan is CHAD

>>39197111
Wasn't Gandy a virgin until his 20's?

>>39200009
You reek of defeatism, you despondent little man.

There is no doubt that physical attraction plays a smaller role in the overall context of getting women. This would be evident to you, had you ever actually attracted a woman