Pic related is considered an 8 or more for a woman. How to achieve

>>39178133
I bought 3 inch shoe inserts and honestly I just stopped lifting after that. Ill the problems I thought /fit/ could solve were actually solved by some foam.

>>39178133
Don't worry mate they will look like fridges when they reach their 40 I mean where the fuck are thier hips whereas you'll be fit and in your best moment
Don't give up

>>39178133
you probably have a shitty personality and no interests other than complaining about how unfair your life is.

fuck off.

>>39178133
The way i like to see it is that they have to wear makeup to be pretty, and their attractiveness falls off drastically after a certain age. Guys, on the other hand, dont wear makeup and we can get more handsome as we age due to girls loving older guys. Much easier for girls to get sexual partners when they're young, but we got the late game advantage.

>8

Don't worry, if that's your idea of an 8 (6.5) there's millions of them walking around.

Better ugly and swole than ugly and skinnyfat

>>39178133
>basing ego off tinder matches

That's just tinder dude, there's no mass of hot girls swiping left on you, there's like 2 hot girls and 1000 fat girls, or course you're getting fatties.

Girl's have crazy standards on Tinder dude, by girlfriend won't swipe right on literally any guy. Meanwhile you gotta just be swiping right on everyone

>>39178133
Also, would you think both those girls were 8's with clothes on? Probably not. Ever think of the fact that maybe it's the same for you? If you've truly been training hard for 2 years you're probably big, just take your shirt off more.

Would ops girls like rimjobs?

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>>39178500
>but we got the late game advantage

Only if you take care of yourself while young. You likely already do since you're on /fit/ but aside from lifting you should be eating clean, looking after your skin and hair, managing your finances and constantly learning useful skills.

>>39178582
You'd need to break them in first, but I imagine they would.

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> How to achieve it? Don't eat too much. Thats it, and you're a bombshell.
>Why even bother training as a man if you aren't tall and have a good face?

You seem to think face and frame doesn't matter for women.

Some of you idiots are so bitter it's pathetic.

>>39178620
Does frame refer to shoulder width?

>>39178672
Just general bone shape (not including face)

>>39178620
I wouldn't say bitter, probably just disillusioned. I didn't realize how disillusioned I was all throughout high school until I got off of /fit/

>>39178555
>my girlfriend won't swipe right

she's not your girlfriend

>>39178547
Whew lad... th-that's actually true. Good point.

>>39178133
Even if you're 10/10 body, face, frame, height, personality, career, and money, women will still expect you make the first move, pursue her, and "win" her over. This makes sense because mating is a super genetic thing, and genetically men are suppose to be the hunters.

Personally, as long as you never entertain the thought, "why the fuck should I spend my time and money to pursue a woman who is only going to consume more of my time + money and birth kids who may possibly have my genes but who will definitely consume more of my time and resources when, at the end of the day, I'm going to die anyway regardless of my genes being passed or not, so why not instead just make money, be healthy, and enjoy porn / sloots?" As long as you don't play with that idea for too long, you should be fine with women.

>>39178607Imagine being Arnold in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Jamie Curtis, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Arnold and not only sit in that chair while Jamie Lee Curtis flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, JAMIE LEE CURTIS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Austria. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Arnold. You're not going to lose your future political career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

>>39178928
>being self conscious about your girlfriend messing around on Tinder

>>39178178

It actually makes me really insecure seeing shit like this. I'm 6'3 and fit I'm still a major sperg with low self-esteem. Was a KHV until I was 21, had to bite the bullet and take a 2/10 on a bunch of dates. Never had a girlfriend because I was literally so introverted I felt tired socialzing with Grandma. These posts make me feel like I'm a failure with life in general. The thing is I get a lot of IOIs and mires from women but I see the attraction leave their eyes the moment we talk for more than a minute. I can't carry a conversation to save my life

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>>39179090
what

>>39178133
Do you know how much fucking time and money these cunts spend on makeup and hair?

>>39179090
I understand this reference bro, and it is quite sickly

>>39179150
looooooool enjoy the complete lack of respect your girlfriend has for you.

>>39178133
What do you do if you have an "angry face"? I got drunk with some people from my department a few weeks ago and one of the girls jokingly brought this up. She's right. I have a /neanderthal/- tier brow ridge that makes my eyes look sunken in and really heavy eyebrows that are naturally at an angle.

Unless I put on a total fucking show and act fake as fuck, I just look pissed even when I'm not. It's killing my game. What can I do?

>>39179326

Assuming you're male and not just talking about resting bitch face -

You just have to get the girl's attention first, then fall back to natural. Default angry face makes people think you want to be left alone. Once she's even slightly comfortable she'll start talking.

Source: no fucking source I'm angry and drinking

when women age past 18 they gain a pound from eating one donut

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>>39178133
anon....who hurt you? its ok

>>39179367
Kek. I'm definitely a guy. It's mostly ok when girls know me because they get whats up, but it kills me at clubs/bars/day-to-day spontaneous shit. I guess I just look scary, which sucks because I'm really not. I just have facial features that emphasize/resemble angry expressions. I have to work overtime to put women at ease around me and thats just the ones that are willing to show interest.

When I let my beard go because I was too lazy to shave, it got even worse. I literally looked like a caveman. I think my older bro did 23andMe and got something like 99th percentile neanderthal dna.

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>>39178133
>How to achieve it? Don't eat too much.

This is generally bullshit. There are a lot of guys out there that can stay skinny their whole lives and still be considered attractive. It's largely genetic. With guys, if you have an ugly face, you can browse /fit/ all day and hope to build muscle to make women feel more attracted to you. Same with girls. If you have a horse face, you can just squat all the fucking time and get a huge ass in the hopes of getting men to find you more attractive.


Grow a spine and quit complaining about how hard your life is you faggot.

>>39178133
It's their faces that matter. Change the girls faces and they could be a 5/10.

You fell for the lifting meme again, lifting won't make you more attractive.

It's FACE
HEIGHT
FRAME

>>39179326
Wear a fun, brightly colored hat. It makes you more approachable.

>>39180114
Kek. Do I have to tip it and say "mlady"?

>>39178133
I've thought about this before but who cares honestly? Lift for yourself faggot.

>>39179150
>rationalizing your 'girlfriend' using a dating site

what a cucker motherfucker, you have accepted the role now you have accepted the mindset

>>39179090
have you seen the mexican maid he cheated with? I'd rather fuck boris over that fat shitpig every day of the week

>>39178133
>get haircut
>go to clothes store
>take selfies in change room

>>39178133
>Meanwhile in Asia
>Be 6 foot tall Asian
>Fit
>Meh face but good sense of style and hair
>Girls are all shorter than me even with heels
>Getting matches with qt 3.14 asian chicks

Life's not all bad I guess!

>>39178133
protip, girls really arent that big of a deal. Once you experience them, its nice but they arent something you need to fuss over. Same with sec btw.

But i know this will be really hard to understand until you go through it all yourself.

>>39178620
Good form crabber

>>39179150
oooooh, this is unfortunate. I didn't need to see this

>>39178133
I don't know how to make it if you don't have the perfect face and you're tall as a motherfucker. But I know one thing:

I lift because it is fun. I've made pathetic gains in my 6-7 months, but I enjoy being in the gym and just bust out my sets. If oyu realistically won't get a qt3.14 don't make your life revolve around getting one.

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>>39178133
NOT FIT RELATED NOW FUCK OFF

>>39178133
Those are 9s in my book hhnnngg

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>too much of a lesbian to lift

how many know this feel?

>>39182817
You're not a real lesbian till you can deadlift 315.

>>39179188
>had to bite the bullet and take a 2/10 on a bunch of dates.

holy shit are you me

>lift for a year
>start dressing better
>read and apply the advice from various self help books
>make a okcupid / tinder profile but take couple weeks to edit it to my liking
>get matches and see what jokes get me the most positive responses
>first girl that meets up with me fucks me on the first night after coffee
>realize sex isn't all that great besides the warmth of her body
>pussy doesn't taste that great
>girl starts texting me all day
>tells me all of her personal problems
>stop responding to her for a week
>get horny again and realize I just pissed off the girl let me fuck her
>try to start back talking to her but its too late

its a endless cycle lads

>>39181685
thanks, I needed that. at 23 it's getting a bit sad tho

>>39182997
hieght?

>>39183800
5'5"

>>39182997
>realize sex isn't all that great besides the warmth of her body

Either you have a small penis or she had a large vagina. Sex is great if you have a good genital match.

>pussy doesn't taste that great
Be glad it didn't taste vile. It varies wildly from girl to girl though.

>>39178133

>no tits
>no hips
>probably no ass

Lol 8\10

Get some standards m8

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>>39186258
we get it she is not lifting but those guys on her instagram look like 8+ at least.
if she can choose that HEIGHT FACE and FRAME her attractiveness must be quite high

>>39186534

That is an average looking dude with a normie tier body dude

From how you are posting you'd think she had a photo of her with lotus or jeff or something

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>>39178133

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>>39186565
>That is an average looking dude with a normie tier body dude

>>39186534
Disparity in sexual strategy means men have a hard time fucking up or across. We fuck down, usually about 2 points. She is a 6 fucking a male 8.

>>39178133
Why even bother trying as a woman if you don't have good boobs or a good face?

If life is only worth living if skinny chicks message you on tinder, you have bigger problems than your body
Also, why would you expect 8s to respond to you? Through the power of sexual capitalism, the market says those fat chicks you are disgusted by are your peers. Deal with it.

>>39178133
dude you have to do more than just look good for women. While yes, women do like attractive and appealing looking men - the real game for them is mental. You can't just have six pack abs and expect models to start blowing up your phone just because you liked them on tinder.

>>39178133
>And drop it with the ">lifting for girls", thats why we all do this, don't fucking lie to yourself.

And you were told countless times it doesn't fucking work. You will never be so hot any woman would be yours, it doesn't work like that. Sexual attraction for women isn't the same as it is for men. Personality, status, looks, dedication, confidence, it's the entire package that decides if you're attractive or not.
You can spend all your free time trying to max out the physical attractiveness stats and you will still be an unpopular loser if you don't work on anything else.
Strictly speaking, if your goal is to get laid, your time spent at the gym is almost wasted. Spend 2 hours a day socializing instead, and after a few months you're guaranteed to have a girlfriend.
We're talking hard fucking work here, getting out of your comfort zone, reaching out to people, putting yourself out there every single day. If you do that, qtgf guaranteed. Of course no one does that because it's scary so we spend that time in the gym instead.

>>39186620

His face is totally normal.

it's not handsome or ugly

His body is the product of not counting calories, bulking, cutting, just lifting 3 x a week for 30 mins for a couple years and eating at matience

I am super unimpressed

You guys just think he is so handsome and so ripped because HE IS WITH A HOT GIRL.

I bet this guy is charming and rich.

>>39186625
Nah, only the autistic, 2d zyzz wannabes of this board whose only aspiration in life is to get pussy underfuck consistently by two points.

I'm a semi-autistic fat fuck and I could easily get a gf that atm would be considered 1 or 2 points above me.

Ffs, I have a friend who's 5'8, doesn't work out, no frame, 6/10 face, doesn't really take care of himself and scores chicks in the 8-10 range consistently. Because he has a wide social circle, has game and is not a complete asperg.

>>39186820
So this is what lifting autism is like

>>39186838
PD: "could", in the sense that I actually have, not that I haven't but could.

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Sexuality is different for men and woman. I can't believe its 2016 and we are still going over this, but for a man to get turned on all you have to do is be visually attractive. For a women to get turned on you have to engage their feelings and emotions in a way that excites them. Even though they are pants on head retarded, PUAs know and understand this, just the execution is uhh alternative cringe. Learning to communicate to women effectively will get you laid 10x faster than working out at the gym.

>>39186853

What did I say that is incorrect?

'You are autistic' is not a checkmate to stuff you don't agree with

>>39186899
>cringe jeans
baka

>>39186925
obsessing like that over a guy's physique trying to pick him apart when he looks great to 99.9% of the population
pure autism, who gives a shit about your nitpicking you massive muscles nerd
like out of all the things you could be a nerd about you picked muscles when star trek and dwarf fortress were available just what is wrong with your autistic ass

>>39186925
Not him. But you stretched the definition of average quite a bit. He has a body that's better than that of 95% of the people overall, maybe better than 70% of this board. He's toned, somewhat muscular and has good proportions (wide shoulders mainly).

You can't really see his face crearly but he seems to have an aesthetic face. Proportions are in check and he has a wide jaw and an attractive hairline shape.

>>39178133
You don't have this problem if you lift FOR the fatties, like me.

>my dirty bulk is eating fat girl pussy.

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>>39179090
> and later alleged rape victims

I know it's pasta but it's good pasta.

>>39186838
Obviously you can by making up for it in other ways. If your game is so strong you can consitantly score 2 points higher, you're that high because of social skills.

I wouldn't call that level of seductive ability being "not a sperg" though. That's true charisma.

>>39186820
Post your pics.

Women dont just eat less, they spend a lot of time on make-up, buy appropriate clothes and have to work on personality way more than men

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>>39178500
It's true what anon says. Read this OP.

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>>39178133
whats a 10/10?

>>39180086
>>39180095

>Faces matter
>When contouring with makeup is a thing
Shut the fuck up. Load up tinder right now and look at how many women on there look exactly the same. Faces loaded with makeup, contoured to hell and back, eyebrows that are nothing but drawings. The only prerequisite is to be relatively slim, not have massive facial scarring and have practiced makeup for a few years and there's a 90% chance as a woman you can have this look.

And if you're below 25 and pull this, you've got your choice of dick all. day. long.

Even if you choose not to go down this route and go with "natural" beauty, if you do the following as a woman you're sorted:
>Get "chubby"
>Look at your proportions, see the ratio of ass to waist to bust
>If you look good, stay at that weight
>If not, cut down until you go fridge mode and see OP for the rest

The worst bit about this? Not a single mention of the word "muscle". Remember that Summer cut you just did and how it took a few months at best? Do this once as a woman and you're done, and even that's assuming you don't have good fat distribution to settle as "chubby".

The only challenge as a woman is to land a man that can provide for you before you hit the wall, which is undeniably easy as long as you don't let the ego from all the validation you get from being pretty in your youth go directly to your head.

Men don't have makeup and even the one thing we can do to improve our chances, lifting, has been discredited in this thread. The game is rigged against men as far as physical attraction goes, don't try to imply otherwise.

>>39187248
>girls caked up on makeup
>attractive

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>>39187225
>posting the shit version

>>39187465

>like 2 inches from her tits
>if you read this ur gay

OK