Is barbell training really the best way to gain the most strength

>>39121510
Do dumbbell don't get memed.

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Dumbbell overhead press, dumbbell one arm row, and dumbbell incline/decline/flat bench will build more strength in the TARGET muscles than their barbell counterparts. This is simply due to the same reason barbells are better than machines - the stabilization factor and freedom of movement.

Barbells will build stronger spinal erectors and legs in exercises that you could never load properly with a dumbbell.

Examples:
>deadlifts and variants (sumo, RDL, rack pull, behind the back, jefferson, deficit, snatch grip etc)
>squats and variants (front, zercher, hack, bulgarian split, box, etc)
>rows with a barbell aren't as good as dumbbell rows for upper back or lats, but will hit your spinal erectors harder this includes pendlay rows and conventional.
>any Olympic lifts or variants, besides clean and PRESS regarding shoulder development (old school, not done anymore so it doesn't matter.

side note: weighted dips are arguably better than any bench variation besides incline, which hits upper chest like no other.

weighted pull ups cannot be replicated to equal effect, same goes for barbell/trap bar deadlift.

>>39122195
>side note: weighted dips are arguably better than any bench variation besides incline, which hits upper chest like no other
Can attest to this. Am lanklet, been struggling with bench for ages. After starting weighted dips go to 2pl8 bench ezbreezy

Dumbells are better if you can get them into position easily enough.

You need helpers when you get real strong for dumbell bench really. Kicking 50kg dbs off your knees into position uses quite a lot of energy.

Barbells are just easier to load and get into position which is why they provide a great balance between function and ease of use.

I laugh when people think barbell automatically = superior tho. BB rows for example, are quite far down the list of best rowing variations for back strength and growth.

>>39122195
Dips are really heavy on the shoulder though, I wouldn't recommend them if you have any shoulder issues.

>>39122228
This is true. Another reason weighted dips are king of horizontal push (especially leaning forward on rings or other suspended straps).

But as far as rowing and overhead pressing goes dumbbells are king. If you're strong enough to overhead press a single 150 lbs dumbbell for example, you can for sure clean it to position with two hands. If you can dumbbell row a 200 lbs dumbbell, then picking it up to position will be no problem.

>>39122249
Leaning forward and attaching the rings/suspension straps about 4 feet apart from each other helps a lot with this. Puts much more tension on pectorals rather than deltoids and relating ligaments.

ITT: phaggots that fell for the dumbbell meme hoyl shit what a bunch of dyel cucks

>>39122249
my shoulders can handle weighted dip but my elbows cannot

>>39122249
Problem with dips as well is loading them in any sensible way for novices. Most sedentary people will struggle to do even a couple body weight dips till their bench is decent.

If memory serves, Rip has said before that bench is to dips/push ups what lay pull downs are to chin ups. However chins are generally much easier even for relatively weak people to do.

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>>39122311
what's your overhead barbell press big boy?

>>39122359
If a male can't do a single dip or chin up they're not a male.

compared to barbell, dumbbell overhead press doesn't make my should crack and dumbbell row doesn't hurt my wrist so that's cool

I'd be set if I had a heavy ass dumbbell for everything besides posterior chain :(

>>39121510
Rip says that absolute beginners should use barbell bench press because it's easier to learn and do than dumbbell bench press. Rip is not coaching powerlifting, SS is not about powerlifting, PP is not about powerlifting, Rip's prescribed form is not optimal for powerlifting, SS is about beginners gaining most strength possible.

>>39122391
75kg phaggot come at me bro

>>39122905
Bench in any form should be abandoned once 250 lbs is able to be pressed due to the scapulas being pinned under the body and the weight during movement.

As the earlier guy said, dips are better. For multiple reasons.

>>39122928
bodyweight?

>>39122940
92kg 6'1

>>39122932
I never had issues with bench and I rep 3 plate but then my form is good.
Only thing I had issue with were handstand pushups.

>>39122968
>80% of bodyweight

kek, and stop using kg you fucking retard

>>39122976
the reason for this is because handstand push ups engage your delts more, also your scapula is freely moving as opposed to benching 3pl8 where it is retracted aiding in your form and total lift, just keep going man you'll get them down

>>39122991
I can do them fine. I just got shoulder pain once from doing too many.

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>>39122987
its actually a decent OHP, whats yours m8-o?
also you missed the point completely.
when someone says 1/2/3/4 they aren't referring to 1xbodyweight, 2xbodyweight etc

it means 1pl8/2pl8/3pl8/4pl8 for ohp, bench, squat, and diddly respectively

>inb4 you don't post pics, try and argue against this common knowledge

>>39122391
So your gender magically disappears if your arms are amputated.

You so fucking stupid.

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>>39122987
also
>stop using kg you fucking retard
>i live in americuck therefore the rest of the world needs to use my measurements

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>39122391
Able to do a single dip or chin-up is different from able to do multiple sets and train them properly.

>>39122987
Metric is always better than imperial.

Always. You fucking retard.

>>39123014
Uh, the Fahrenheit vs Celsius thing on that image is retarded.

Choosing your temperature scale to be 0 when water freezes at Earth's atmospheric pressure is completely arbitrary.

>>39123069

Also, the notion of lifting KG is retarded as well. Lbs make way more sense since its a unit of force and not mass. Talking about lifting mass is completely non-sensical: when you lift you're exerting a force and it should be measured as such. You should be lifting in Newtons not KGs you stupid Eurofags.

>>39123077
>trying to excuse your shitty system that maybe 3 countries in the world still use

What weighs more fuckstick, 45lbs or 20kg?
>makes more sense

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>39123069
butthurt americuck detected

>>39123103
Uh, 45 lbs weighs more because weight is a notion if force. 20kg doesn't weigh anything because 20kg is a mass. 20kg at earth's surface weighs approximately 20kg * 9.8 m/s^2, which is still less than 45 lbs. :)

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>>39123142

>>39123142
>20kg alone doesn't weigh anything, it needs to be accelerated by a gravitational field*** and then its weight is not a unit of mass.

>>39123001
idgaf about 1234, I never mentioned it. Your OHP should be bodyweight.

Barbell 1RM is 228 lbs, single dumbbell is 110 lbs

@ 171 lbs 5'10"

Strict, no leg drive.

>>39123005
you're a bitch with female lvl strength, sorry it triggers you

>>39123014
Pounds are more precise, just like how Fahrenheit is.

>>39123153

Says the fag who doesn't understand basic units/physics.

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>>39123167
>defending imperial
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>b-but they're m-more p-recise
thats why we have grams and millimeters you fucking troglodyte

>implying the olympics would ever use something as filthy and backwards as lbs

>>39123167
>Pounds are more precise, just like how Fahrenheit is.

Just because a unit is larger doesn't make it more imprecise. That's why we have the decimal point you moron. Also let us not forget that the base unit of mass in the metric system is the fucking gram and not kg.

>>39123176
i dont understand physics but i know physiques and you are outranked here phaggot
>inb4 no pics

>>39123191
>>39123198
1 kg is 2.2 lbs.

It gives a better unit of measurement for weight training. I think the gram would be better than the pound for the same reason.

>>39123199
>i dont understand physics but i know physiques
This may be the funniest post I've read on /fit/.

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>>39123227
why do you think 99% of the civilized world just immediately accepted metric over imperial
>protip: america is not known for its IQ
the only people use still use that shit are myanmar, liberia and you phaggots

this happened for a reason phaggot
also if they are so precise, why does the olympics choose KG over LBS

stay imperial
stay mad

>>39123001
75 is laughable I don't know anyone training for a year who can't do that.

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>>39123263
>doesn't post pics
>doesn't even attempt to e-stat

C'mon now, spergy.

>>39123263
he means 165lbs, hes writing in kilos you burger

>>39123263
>I don't know anyone training for a year who can't do that.
That's because you don't know anyone, senpai. You have no friends.

>>39123227
The gram IS the unit you use. Kilo literally means thousand. A thousand fucking grams.

You aren't lifting sacks filled with grain where you periodically add a couple of grains. Weights don't come in some retarded 232g plates. There is no point in using bigger numbers.

>hurr durr yoctogram is the most accurate
>are you even trying imperials?

>>39123260
top kek

the only two universities in the top 10 worldwide that aren't american are cambridge and oxford.

And I'm Canadian.

>>39123260
>protip: america is not known for its IQ

What are you talking about? The US consistently has the best universities in the world and scientific Nobel laureates are overwhelmingly associated with American universities. We might have a ton of stupid people, but the US is also a scientific superpower.

The only other country with comparable universities? England. And you know what they use to measure weight? The fucking stone, whatever the fuck that is.

>>39123271
Look man just stop embarrassing yourself by telling people you only OHP 75kg and being proud of it. Instead of providing an argument for why barbell pressing is superior to dumbbell pressing you come in here with anecdotal evidence of you pressing a novice weight thanks to the wonders of barbell training. For the record I train with barbells exclusively because I'm at an oly lifting gym and one I would look like a faggot if I went to the dumbbell rack and two it has better transfer to what I'm trying to achieve. You should be mildly satisfied with what you've achieved so far but you're not strong and won't be for years so just keep humble and keep working at it, be open to other methods and actually listen to their potential merits

>>39123271
I'm the guy that didn't post the pic, because I'm not a bodybuilder and I actively try to avoid gaining mass so my strength to weight ratio stays high. You don't have to believe my stats, but you asked for them.

You're replying to another anon, anon.

>>39123198
>>39123295

More-educated-than-you burger here. Kg is actually the base unit of mass. That being said this anon >>39123227 is almost certainly retarded. This anon >>39123142
brings up a good point though.

No >>39123165

>>39123319
>>39123321
>universities
>foreign professors
>chinks, chinks everywhere

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>>39123319
>still attempting to defend an OUTDATED system
>implying american universities are respected by anyone besides americucks

AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

>>39123370

Fuck off, I went to an Ivy League for undergrad and more than half of the profs were American. You're just making shit up.

>>39123289
maybe he just doesn't associate with weak people?

>>39123331
This guy has good points. For his goals, training without barbells exclusively would be dumb as fuck. He's an athlete that competes in a sport requiring as much agility and skill as it does strength.

But if you want strength that actually translates to being able to put heavy shit over your head irl, where sometimes you only have room for one hand, or things aren't perfectly balanced like a barbell, or you want to be EQUALLY strong with either arm, then use dumbbells. Or don't idgaf.

>>39123331
>>39123335
>no pics
>proceed to inform others their lifts are shit

confirmed for dyel

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>>39122987
>>39123069
>>39123142
>>39123167
>>39123227
>>39123077
this cannot be real

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>>39122274
>rings/suspension straps

What the fuck? Where i do dips it looks like this. What the fuck are you talking about with these "rings" or "suspension straps?"

>>39123331
>embarrassing yourself by telling people you only OHP 75kg
>a novice weight
>you're not strong
>doesn't post pics

oh yeah man i'm embarrassing myself here by being proud of what i've achieved, while you e-stat and talk shit with no proof whatsoever that you have ever picked up a weight
if you are gonna try to argue and pics are already involved and you don't post your opinion is invalid
>inb4 fatty/skelly here doesn't post pics

>>39123362
>Kg is actually the base unit of mass
It is the base unit because it is the most sensical choice, but it is defined as 1000 grams, not the other way around.

The gram predates the kilogram. Saying something weighs X kg is LITERALLY saying something weighs X thousands of grams.

>>39123385
>more than half of the profs were American.
>more than half
wow
such genius
much american

>>39123404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYmSXFa39k

>>39123077

I understand anon. Eurofags are retarded

>>39123418

No, the kilogram is defined as the mass of some shiny ball of metal in a vault in france somewhere. A gram is literally defined from the kilogram.

Kys brainlet

>>39123414
>I can't see people on the internet so they're wrong

lol k dude we don't give a fuck what you do, in all honesty I regret trying to help you seeing as you're probably some leftist aussie or euro

have fun with your barbell bench/OH pressing gains and minimal transfer lol

>>39123414
you're never going to make it

>>39123454
>No, the kilogram is defined as the mass of some shiny ball of metal in a vault in france somewhere
>shiny ball of metal in a vault in france somewhere
>in a vault in france somewhere

Are you high?

>>39123362

>>39123142
>>39123165

Are the same person, namely me. I was correcting what I wrote. And I don't get the "no".

I'm sure we all know that F = ma, so there is no force associated with a mass without an acceleration. So 20 kg in the absence of a gravitational field accelerating it (or something else accelerating it) doesn't have a force acting upon it.

That's why in outer space, your 200 kg squat remains a 200 kg squat but a 440 lb squat would become a 0 lb squat.

>>39123465

It's not a ball, it's a cylinder of platinum and he's right. Although it's being redefined in terms of Planck's constant soon.

>>39123463
jelly as fuck

>>39123457
you opinion is invalid, in laymans terms you could be 400lbs giving out advice.
there is no evidence you aren't baiting/trolling.
until you post a pic of yourself or proof you lift even close to what i lift, what you post literally means nothing.

get it?

>the fact you aren't posting pics proves more than if you did. it shows you are insecure with your physique and thus don't want to show it.

which proves my point - dyel?

>>39123469
brb gonna go to the moon to film myself doing 10,000 kg world records on every exercise

>>39123484
anon i know this post is meant in jest...but TECHNICALLY you are right.
if you lifted on the moon you would break every world record in existence

>>39123465
>>39123478
what the fucking shit, i just looked this up and its true. my world is collapsing around me fit please help

>>39123484

Yeah, you could 100% do that. They wouldn't be world records if measured in lbs, though.

That's why this shit is so retarded and why measuring weightlifting in terms of masses makes zero sense. It really should be Newtons.

>>39123457
>>39123331
>>39123263
>>39122987
dude, you know you can just stop posting? this is all anonymous.
right now you really look autistic and desperate
that ohp is proficient, but you wouldnt know that since you probably dont even lift
>bringing politics in it out of nowhere
pathetic

>>39122261
My dumbells jump from 30kg to 40kg in my gym. No in between it's fucking stupid. What can I do?

>>39123484
>>39123489

>going to the moon
>to break world records
>WORLD records
C'mon now, anons.

>>39123077
>lbs is a force
>Excempt from Wikipedia: "The avoirdupois (or international) pound, used in both the imperial and US customary systems, is defined as exactly 0.45359237 kg,[3] making one kilogram approximately equal to 2.2046 avoirdupois pounds."

>>39123454
No, you stupid fuck.
First they defined the gram as the base unit, based on the mass of melting ice or some shit. At this point, the gram was the base unit of the volume/mass system. Then they realized having such a small base unit is fucking stupid and produced the metal object 1000 times the mass of a gram that became the base for the kilogram and made that the base.

You don't fucking create a unit called thousand grams before knowing what a gram even is.
>American education

>>39123454
>>39123478
>>39123490
yeah that's how unit of measurements work.
You pick an object that has unchangeable characteristics (at least the ones you are using it to measure) and use it as a point of reference. but I guess you guys dont even know what the Internation System of Units is.
jesus christ american education...

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>>39123504
>avoirdupois
>avoiddapuss
>avoid the pussy

/fit/ as FUCK

>>39123167
>Pounds are more precise, just like how Fahrenheit is.

Retarded on more than one level

>>39123496
but 80% of people, and 99% of americans dont know what a Newton is, and since all weightlifting comps are made at roughly the same altitudes it doesnt really matter

>>39123504

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_(mass)

The real unit of mass in the imperial system is the slug. And from the same article,

"Usage of the unqualified term pound reflects the historical conflation of mass and weight. This accounts for the modern distinguishing terms pound-mass and pound-force."

ITT: Americucks getting BTFO by the rest of the world, and one anon defending himself against jealous betas

>kek of the week

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>>39123497

>>39123516
>yeah that's how unit of measurements work.

Not it isn't. Almost every other SI base unit is defined in terms of physical constants. And the kg will be soon as well. The meter, for example, is defined by how far light travels in a vacuum over a set amount of time.

>>39123537
holy shit if you look closely as the ending of the quotes you can see where he has edited the picture to cut out the You's

>SAD AS FUCK

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ITT: americucks

>>39123530
Meant to add: 1 anon desperately trying to explain physics like his degree somehow matters on a fitness board

i'm almost crying with laughter here guys pls stahp

>>39123516
i didnt learn this in school, and im not 100% sure why it would be useful to me in every day life aside from feeling superior to strangers on a south american basket weaving forum

dont worry, youll move out soon and find out how useless most of your education was

>>39123469

I was mostly being pedantic, it doesnt need to be a gravitational field, but you already know

>>39123509
>>39123516

>Euros in charge of understanding the nuances of their own system of units

It's like I'm talking to cavemen

>>39123559
>fantastic except for one detail
I don't think you know what a hook is. That shit is straight out of Pinocchio.

>also obligatory back2pol.jpg

>>39123564

> like his degree somehow matters

Hey man I've long abandoned physics for CS grad school. But if I'm not gonna use the degree for my career, might as well use it on an anime-theme fitness image board...right?

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>>39123578
Fuck off, JIDF

>>39123498
I had that problem before. Lets assume you can do 1 rep with the 30kg.

Do 6 sets of 1 rep, then next time do the first 2 or 3 sets with 2 reps, and the last 2 or 3 with 1 rep.

The time after that all sets of 2 reps, then the time after that 3 reps for all sets, etc, etc/ until you get to 6 reps for 6 sets.

At that point the 40kg should be doable for 1 rep, it's okay to make it a push press when starting out. Repeat with the 40kg onwards to the 50kg friend.

>>39123580
wrong, not only does nobody care, you are trying to explain this to people whose biggest struggles in life involve such classics as:

1. how do i get a gf?
2. is creatine causing me to bald?
3. why don't women approach me?
4. why am i a jawlet/beardlet/manlet/dicklet?

C'mon now, Anon. As technically correct (the best kind) as you are, this is not the place to flaunt it.

>>39123509

The kg as it was defined in like 1066AD is only superficially the same kg as defined today.

But I wouldnt expect you to be able to understand that

>>39123601

I mean...it is literally like 9th grade level physics.

>>39123526
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_(mass)
>"One slug has a mass of 32.174049 lbm or 14.593903 kg based on standard gravity, the international foot, and the avoirdupois pound."
>14.593903 kg
>americucks system literally doesn't work without the use of the metric system

>>39123552
i dont see it

>>39123601

Some people literally all of their time outside of the gym browsing fit. A nice small step to gf is not being retarded

>>39123622
but does nofap work? can i get a bigger dick by jelqing? is this girl at my gym in love with me? why don't i have any friends? how come i can't lose weight if all i eat is doritos and pepsi? why are my shits liquid after a gomad? how come women find me weird and strange? how do i become a person named chad?

i know what you mean but you are preaching to the wrong choir

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>>39123573
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram
>On April 7, 1795, the gram was decreed in France to be "the absolute weight of a volume of pure water equal to the cube of the hundredth part of the metre, and at the temperature of melting ice."
>Since trade and commerce typically involve items significantly more massive than one gram, and since a mass standard made of water would be inconvenient and unstable, the regulation of commerce necessitated the manufacture of a practical realization of the water-based definition of mass. Accordingly, a provisional mass standard was made as a single-piece, metallic artifact one thousand times as massive as the gram—the kilogram.

>>39123614
>pic
lol kys

>>39121510
>does a routine like Starting Strength really build as much strength possible in every muscle?
No. Things like calves, forearms and many more things are not even considered and it's a dumb program overall. Good bodybuilders, natty or not, don't train like that.

>>39123650

>The gram, 1/1000 of a kilogram

Think about it anon. You could use it

>>39123321
theres a good reason for that.
see, what is the size of USA? How many inhabitants does USA have?
do YOU think that with 318,9 millions, USA would be inhabited by stupid people?
u must be fucking stupid to think that non of those people are gonna be smart.

for the universities. how rich are USA? okay? so you say they are the richest country in the world and thats why they can build HUGE campusses and aford the best teachers? is that also why they can build top of the line facilities for their athletes and train their athletes like fucking genetified mise?

okay big boy, well i think we have come to a conclusion

>>39123077

how are you this autistic

>>39123667
Everyone take a look at this faggot, take a look at him and laugh.

Listen up dyel, compounds like the deadlift are going to build more strength in say for example the forearms more than your pussy ass wrist curls ever would.

>Good bodybuilders
Clearly he's not talking about hypertrophy since he's talking about strength, you illiterate cunt. God you dyels make me mad knowing fags like you are the ones giving shitty advice on this board.

>>39123599
or whatever rep/weight % of 1RM you want.

depends if you're training for strength or hypertrophy

>>39123752
irony

>>39123698
>The gram, 1/1000 of a 1000 grams
really makes you think

>>39123667
Retardedsesstt comment in this thread.

>>39122932
never give fitness advice again

this is your only warning

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ITT: americans thinking they are better than any country at anything

even your football sucks dick
>pic related

>>39123805

yerh right

'actually mass is not equal to force and if we're measuring force then you should be using newtons'
'how much do you weigh anon?'
'1779.28865 newtons, without my glasses of course *snork*'

KYS

>>39123856

There is no intellectual difference between using kg and Newtons. One just happens to be more common place in today's society than the other.

There's nothing inherently autistic about a Newton.

>>39122359
>Problem with dips as well is loading them in any sensible way for novices. Most sedentary people will struggle to do even a couple body weight dips till their bench is decent.
Assisted dips?

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>>39123594
those wide hips on the girl

>>39123846
>ITT: americans thinking they are better than any country at anything
it's actually true tho.

>>39123915

there's plenty autistic about using them in a casual setting though
it's like turning up to a football match in a tuxedo

there's nothing inherently wrong with tuxedos, but in that context you're going to look weird and autistic and girls won't want to touch your weewee

>>39123846
...thats actually impressive as fuck thats a vertical jump of about 5 and a half feet followed by catching a funny shaped ball and landing with what looks like a head injury

consider me interested...have you got any more of these? what game is this? gaelic football?

>>39123954
yeah like being obese and retarded

>>39123594
Fuck off my /fit/,/pol/lack

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>>39123980
it's fucking afl m8 and its the best game in the world bar none

check this one out

>>39124007
wtf i love australians now post moar

>>39123993
lmao america invented everything worthwhile in the modern world, bucko. like freedom, internet, cars, planes, fast food, and body builders.

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>>39124021

>>39124031
>freedom
Democracy was created in Ancient Greece.
>internet
Not only is the internet Worldwide, it's creator is a Jewish man, Bob Kahn.
>cars
Karl Benz invented the car in Germany.
>fast food
Congratulations, you are responsible for obesity.
>bodybuilders
Eugene Sandow is from England.

The only thing you listed that America created is easily accessible and cheap carbohydrates and sugars.

Hence the term, BURGERLAND.

#rekt

>>39124039
Afl is a fag game, real blokes play rugby league or union if your a fancy cunt

>>39124092
Rugby is a bunch of men grappling each others balls and and sweating all over each other for a ball just so they can run and be chased by other sweaty muscled up men and get tackled in end anyway.

Totally not homo.

>not to mention AFL requires more skill and athleticism then rugby

>>39124092
>implying ANY rugby player could make a specky EVER

>>39124072
>Not only is the internet Worldwide, it's creator is a Jewish man, Bob Kahn.
actually objectively false

>>39124122
>>39124122
Robert Elliot "Bob" Kahn is a Jewish American electrical engineer, who, along with Vint Cerf, invented the Transmission Control Protocol and the Internet Protocol, the fundamental communication protocols at the heart of the Internet. Wikipedia

Stay mad.

>>39124110
Real men can't jump 5 feet in the air, something only fags can do

AFL is literally worse than aids, worst supporters, game is shunned internationally, the players are all fuckwits.. apart from cousins, he goes alright

>>39124128
>American electrical engineer, who, along with Vint Cerf
>American
>Vint Cerf
>Vint Cerf: the father of the internet
lmao

>>39124128
anyway, American is the best country in the world. Stay butt-mad.

>>39124136
>cousins is the only good afl player
Opinion disregarded completely.
You just made yourself look retarded AF.


An eyewitness said former AFL footballer Ben Cousins was "kicking and screaming" and "completely out of it" as police arrested him in the Perth suburb of Canning Vale.

>he is a druggie loser
>hasn't played afl in 6+ years
>got busted literally TODAY with drugs

You've just shown how little you know about the greatest sport in the world, m8.

>also: real men can't jump
>implying all basketballers are gay
>implying having a vertical jump carryover from heavy squats is gay

So much delusion.

>>39124139
>proud of inventing the wireless jew and soft serve ice creams

AHAHAHAHAHAH AMERIKEKED

>>39124186
the internet isn't wireless, goy.

>>39122249

after 2 years with weighted dips i can do them at 4-6 reps per set with no shoulder issues

although i go for parallel ROM only

if you have problems with your shoulder it's because you lean too much forward, same for sternum pains, actually i do just tricep dips (the one you do almost vertical) to avoid injuries

>>39124176
That's the joke

>>39124189
>the internet isn't wireless
Ahhh that's why I trip over the international internet cable every time I go to the beach?

>retard detected

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>>39124206
>having an inside joke just for yourself and nobody else

>>39124210
and this is why America is better than everyone else: access to education to keep our population from being simpletons who don't know the internet is literally a big ass cable that is ran through oceans.

For some lifts like rows and curls I prefer dumbbells and don't use barbell.
For some lifts like bench and overhead press I prefer barbells but use dumbbells as an accessory. Not a powerlifter or a bodybuilding I just want to be strong and look strong.

THIS WHOLE THREAD GOT THE FUCK OUT OF HAND QUICKLY.

THE TOPIC WAS BARBELL v DUMBBELL AND SOMEHOW IN THE LAST FEW HOURS WE HAVE DISCUSSED:

-Imperial v Metric
-Physics
-Universities
-The Moon
-Jews
-Autism
-Australian Football
-Ancient Greece
-Cars
-The Birth of the Internet
-Fast Food
-Democracy
-Drugs

HOW IS ANY OF THIS /FIT/ RELATED, FAGGOTS?

>>39124234
>everyone else
>not everyWHERE else

Great education you've got there, Amerikek.

>>39124268
every American carries America with them, idiot.

>>39124277
James Holmes
Aaron Burr
Al Capone
Alger Hiss
Benedict Arnold
James Earl Ray
Jim Jones
John Wilkes Booth
Lee Harvey Oswald
Timothy McVeigh
Ted Bundy

Great logic there, Amerikek.

>>39124261

Imperial vs metric and physics because they relate to weights

universities cause they have gyms

the moon affects the tides which is important if you open water swim

jewish people also partake in fitness you bigot

same goes for autistics

Australian football is a sport, how is it not /fit/ related?

ancient Greece birthplace of THE OLYMPICS

cars - they lift cars in strongman competitions

/fit/ is on the internet

fast food - IIFYM

drugs - steroids are drugs

so only democracy is not fit - related

1/13 you brainlet

>>39124327
>having the freedom to lift weights
>not /fit/ related

0.2323/500000000000000000000
absolute brainlet

>>39124322
America wouldn't be America if we didn't produce the best at everything.

>>39124338

implying communist Russia didn't lift weights

are you being satirical?

>>39124343
None of those are the best, they are just shitty Americans.

Stop, you are embarrassing yourself and your country.

>>39124346
they lifted filled vodka bottles you fucking dunce

>>39124346
>implying communism isn't just another form of freedom

is this a joke you are making?

>>39124352
says Mr. I didn't know commie sharks attached the freedom internet on a daily basis.

>>39124375
>says Mr. I didn't know commie sharks attached the freedom internet on a daily basis.

Coming from a guy who can't string together a coherent sentence, I'm gonna go with "Shit autistic people scream into their pillow" for $500, Alex.

>>39124386
americans don't care about being grammatically correct on the shit they invented. its like going to another country and learning their langauge and trying to correct their grammar

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>>39124395
>americans don't care about being grammatically correct
Agreed.
>>39124395
>langauge
You can't even speak your own fucking language.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>39124411
its not our language its some language we plundered and stole because we're badass

>>39124419
>stealing
>badass

No wonder your country is chock full of niggers, Tyrone.

>>39124428
yeah conquering is badass. just like we conquered everyone with our culture via the internet and then conquered everyone again with bombs from the planes we invented.

>>39124440
>proud of being a degenerate
Explains your country being a shit hole, though.

>>39124465
sounds like jealousy imo. stay buttmad we export culture to whatever shit country you live in.

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hello guys whats goin on in this thread?
i had a very nice gym session just now and tomorrow is boxing time

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>>39124471
Guess where, and it's better than living the United States of Esoterica.

>>39123540
>The meter, for example, is defined by how far light travels in a vacuum over a set amount of time.
That came later. Initially, they just got a length of some metal, and defined it as one meter.
All measurements come from convention. Only later did we refine the definition.

>>39122391
chin-ups are way easier than dips, though.

>>39126329

hahahahahaha teh most dyel thing i have ever read

>>39123069
fahrenheit scale was supposed to be based off of the thermal properties of water as well, but there were errors that they found later, and they decided to just roll with it. Fahrenheit scale is a retarded version of centigrade.

i love how this thread turned into a metric vs imperial

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>squat upside down

There. I just squatted the earth, including every single retarded /fit/ poster

>>39126964
I wish there was actually some decent discussion on relevant topics for once on this fucking board.

>>39127548
The problem with anonymity and with perishing threads is that every discussion has to start from the top. The same surface-level arguments have to be made, then discredited or qualified, and by then the thread has hit the bump limit and the whole process has to start over again.

It's like the difference between a sitcom and a drama. Most sitcoms are written so that a person can jump in on any 1 episode and understand most of it, and the plot of that episode is resultantly shallow. Whereas a typical drama won't make sense unless watched from the first episode, with a correspondingly more complex storyline.

The design of this board really does not allow for in depth technical discussion, its design produces memes and often wrong/oversimplified 'community knowledge.'

For actual fitness discussion, this is a pretty bad place to look. I think it's a good gateway for highschool losers from /b/, but other than that its really only good for feels and high test threads.

>>39127548
this is a good place to discuss shit if you aren't a numale faggot and actually make a decent thread or post.

>>39128715
The format of the site objectively makes it a bad place to have serious/technical discussions. What makes you say that this is a good place for that?

>>39123517
TopKekLmao 7/7