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Steroids generally

Big dick Chads fucking slutty milfs general.

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>>39090398
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>>39103629
My favorite episode
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I was productive for like 30 minutes at most this whole weekend..
What a waste.
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>>39103629
3rd for:
>got a new job
>got a mortgage with my fiance
>got tren in the post

life is on track
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>>39103675
It's the weekend, fuck it. There was stuff I wanted to do too, but the typhoon kept everyone indoors and everyone canceled plans.
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how do you into social life while juicing?

>no drinking
>no snorting

how can i go to parties and stay sober?
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>>39103694
Drop the tren or your fiancé will quickly become two sub sex kittens and a Domme with a fat ass. Your mortgage will be late. You'll be the weirdly aggressive sweaty guy at work. Tren will tear your relationships apart homie.
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Anyone here have an opinion on DLTBB's routine?
bodymaxing.com/2016/09/15/dltbb-routine/

>>39103615
>also is Pisek a nice region
Born and raised in 'Murca so can't help you there. Family is Slovak and from Muran and a couple other villages that I can't remember.
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>>39103629
Can anyone help me in regards to DNP?

>First cycle
>4 days 250mg, no sides
>Day 3 of 500mg, still no sides

My source is bulletproof so theres no risk there, only ever get hot when I eat lots of carbs. Should I up the dose to 750mg?
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>>39103713
drink anyways

you're already poisoning yourself with steroids and pesticides, might as well go all the way
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>>39103713
Easy. You just don't drink to excess, casually sip a cider or odouls or a hard root beer or something. Chill with people smoking outside. Anyone over 21-23 is going to respect a person who understands their limits or embraces some discipline in their life.

Especially if you're big boy big and say "nah I don't drink like that" or "nah I don't fuck with drugs" they say "oh okay cool I can imagine since you obviously respect your body. That's so cool".
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>>39103744
>a man was found dead in a pool of yellow semen and sweat
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>>39103700
Hm true and I do feel very relaxed atm.. just make a fresh start on Monday, its so much easier to keep going once you've already started working on stuff too.
>>39103713
You could drink if you don't do orals.
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>>39103739
That routine is fairly similar to something I was doing when I was focusing more on BB work. Seems pretty nice, actually.
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>>39103744
No wait a week before changing the dose.. don't you know shit at all? It hasn't even reached the steady state of the 250mg a day yet. Seriously you're gonna kill yourself.
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>>39103783
>750mg
>fatal
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>>39103729
nah bruh, i handle it pretty well, pretty much my perfect drug in that regard
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>>39103808
Huh. Literally everywhere I've read says to up the dose from 250 after 4 days.
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>>39103739
>Weighted dips
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>>39103814
are we gonna start this shit again
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>>39103814
Yeah yesterday 500 no sides, today 750 and just a little warm, tomorrow 1000mg and he feels okay but it's starting to work, 'maybe I just have a high tolerance' lets try 1250 today..
Even at 750 a day you can't say how he'll react if he hasn't even ran 250 for a week yet. He'd be putting himself stupidly at risk.
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>>39103834
Yeah but not 250 to 500 in 4 days and then to 750 in one day and so on. The way you're asking I'm assuming you're don't know what a halflife is and giving you an answer based.on that.
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>>39103876
Yes please stop. Just eat like a person trying to lose weight.

Last winter I went from 275 to 215 in like 8-10 weeks just psmf and then carb loading.
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>>39103694
drop your fiance you cuck
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>>39103917
>t. insecure shithead
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Knowledge but no links to steriods you will not get a source for those and i do not know any

https://tudorbompainstitute.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/vitamin-d-the-anabolic-switch/
http://www.anabolic-bible.org/ShowPage.aspx?callpage=Synthetic_Development
http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/methods/000191994.html
http://www.anabolicandrogenicresearch.com/pro-hormone-compound-info.html
http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/43097-DIM-for-PCT
http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/old-prohormones-vs-new-prohormones/
http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/bodybuilding-steroid-and-training-articles/69906-oral-steroids-ways-increasing-bioavailability.html
http://www.steroidology.com/
http://www.genome.jp/kegg-bin/show_pathway?sur00100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycloartenol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12519197
rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php
http://forums.steroid.com/supplements/100603-all-info-prohormones-youll-ever-need.html
https://tudorbompainstitute.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/vitamin-d-the-anabolic-switch
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129047551
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/295o6t/dhea_to_testosterone
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/hcg-during-a-cycle.134314657
http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/309685-understanding-esters-active-life-half-life.html
http://suppversity.blogspot.com
http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/vitamin-d
http://www.anabolic-bible.org/ShowPage.aspx?callpage=Synthetic_Development
http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product-category/prohormones-2
http://www.bulksupplements.com/diindolylmethane-dim.html
http://www.bulksupplements.com/dehydroepiandrosterone-dhea.html
http://blog.insidetracker.com/can-vitamin-d-restore-low-testosterone-levels
http://www.becarre-natural.com/bioperine.php
cooking
http://imgur.com/gallery/7QcBS
http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA

WEW LAD MILFS
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>>39103901
No don't get me wrong I've done plenty of research on DNP, I just wasn't sure if you upped by 250 every 4 days depending on sides, up to 750mg. I'd never go upwards of 750, but everything I've heard usually people are sweating and gasping for air by this point and I'm perfectly fine. Thanks for your help though, hope this explains where I'm coming from.
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On the current bulking blast my weight is roller costering like crazy. How am I supposed to adjust my kcals?
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just realized i had two tabs open in incognito
r/steroids and r/anime

what have i become
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>>39104067
Double them. Gotta eat big to get big, c'mon.
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>>39103952
All right, be patient it will start working soon enough.
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>>39104103
J-Jerry?
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>>39103578
m8, private source as in he only sells to people he had sold before

sorry about that

thanks for the proposition

mebbe if you around in prague we can go for a beer or two?
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>>39103713
Not drinking is hard. All my friends are beer snobs, and there's always something new to try.

>>39103776
>a cider
See now all that sub talk makes more sense. lol
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paging gorilla-medic

brick where are you

scream at me in a derogatory manner telling me how to structure, or even what specific routine, to do to start really deepening my progress in powerlifting

currently 5/3/1 simplest strength variation, and it's not that I'm bored, I just wish I was testing maxes more often
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>>39104156
>jano is in prague

say hi to my czech gf for me pls
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>win smash "tourney"
>basically walking normally
>tren artived
>drunk and watching girly anime
A good life is so easy when youre a god

>>39103776
>hard root beer
Little girl detected

>>39104103
Why incognito
Pussy

>>39104170
Make youre own routine, fuccboi
>on steroids
>doesnt know basic programming
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>>39104160
>>39104217
Fight me I hate beer. I casually sip tequila. I make getting turnt a process.
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>>39104217
>he doesn't appreciate hard root beer

it's like living your childhood all over again

it's not that I can't program it, it's just that other people know better than I do what works and what doesn't, at a base level. Of course I'll make adjustments as needed, but I can't spend all of my time analyzing other lifters like sheiko can, or someone in a similar position

so I want brick to yell at me and demean me and tell me what to do
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hlep
>I'm a Christian and I don't do hookups or one night stands.
>what are you looking for in a relationship?
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>when you want to hop back on but the wife still isn't pregnant
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>>39104202
[email protected]

if she hot mail me her contact info pls <3
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>>39104241
lmao faggit
It's cool we'll make sure to get you some girly drinks if we have a /fraud/ meet up.

>>39104277
Invite her over for netflix and pizza.
Then fug.
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>>39104309
Using hcg?
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>>39104241
I had so much beer yesterday

Today is rosę and monster though
Cant beat a classic

>>39104265
Im still living my childhood
My life is dedicated to a stuffed toy and I spend all day watching anime and playing videogames
I dont have to drink a barely alcoholic sugar bomb to get that back.

Lift heavy shit with proper variations and accessories on a good mesocycle you fag
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>>39104320
long islands for me, thanks.
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>>39104320
Give me all of your long islands. Look so I fuck men on screen for money, you can't demean my masculinity.
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>>39104067
good face gains desu
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>>39104334
Just checked my monitor to see if something had gotten on it.

Jerry you pretentious fop.
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>>39104340
>>39104343
longislandmind.

Found out who had the strongest one downtown when I was there last. The hipster bar tasted like they used rubbing alcohol, and the karaoke bar's song selection sucks.
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>>39104145
>yfw when this is my goal body

>>39104217
hiding my power level at all costs
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>>39104316
wait a minute are you trying to cuck me

I'd better get free raw testing 4lyfe for this

>>39104334
>barely alcoholic
fair point

>tfw I take hard rootbeer to family gatherings and switch the labels with that of normal rootbeer before throwing it in the cooler
>tfw every single relatives child is piss drunk after cooking out

>training talk
maybe I'll just do a mixture of westside and 5/3/1

keep the monthly mesocycle idea alternating between max effort/dynamic/max effort/deload in weeks

whatever
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>>39104364
Yeah duder they're chill. I went to Hearthfire last weekend and instead of eating I just had 40 dollars worth of long islands. They tried cutting me off at 2 but then the manager came by and was like "you're too big not to handle your liquor here's a free one you're good".
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>>39104343
>Look so I fuck men on screen for money, you can't demean my masculinity.
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you aren't catching.

>>39104370
I wish I was alpha enough to get my waifu tattooed on my chest.
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>>39104350
Lol
Should get a higher resolution monitor

>>39104370
Nobody cares
Own yourself

>>39104378
I like alternating 1rms or triples with speed work

>implying I do anything but 4 variations of curls for 2 hours eod
I hope my joints fix themselves lol
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>>39104396
I've bottomed but I'm only getting dom and top work now, which is kinda a bummer since it pays less.
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>>39104390
Hah, I went to The Foundation in Seattle and they've got two bars in there, one up front and one in back. I pounded two jack and cokes to start off with then just maintained with long islands for the rest of the night, got 3 in front and 4 in back. Was all good, ubered back to my hotel, only bad thing was I forgot to close my tab.
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>>39104432
>it pays less.
huh.
I wonder why that is.
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>>39104446
Lmao do they still have your card? I remember some clubs in Seattle have like atrocious holding fees. One buddy owed a club like 800 bucks for forgetting his card and not closing a tab until the bar realized my buddy was friends with the owner.
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>>39104321
HCG isn't foolproof on its own.
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>>39104450
Because less straight men are willing to get fucked in the ass without the right monetary compensation.
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>>39104422
>alternating 1rms or triples with speed work

on a weekly cycle I presume?

what four curl variations jerry, I need joocey arms, all of that deadlifting strength is actually stored within the bicep, little known secret

>>39104432
>bottomed before, only getting dom and top work now
>kinda a bummer
or not a bummer, yknow?

hehehhe
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>>39104468
Yeah, I know, Im just asking if you're on it, and from your response I assume you are.
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>>39104422
>Nobody cares
>Own yourself

haven't you hidden your pillow wife's when people visit?
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>>39104475
Didn't think there were that many straight guys in porn.

>>39104485
>or not a bummer,
lmao
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>>39104466
I emailed them asking if/when I could pick it up in the morning, since I was leaving before the next evening, no response so I just got a new debit card issued. They don't have any holding fees or anything, their policy is just to close the tab and add a 20% gratuity fee.
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>>39104485
Depends what im trying to focus on. If its only 1 lift ill do one at the start and one at the end of the same week

Ez bar, cable, reverse grip, hammer, cae hammer, bb, db, i rotate them around based on how I feel, usually cable as a warm up though, and hammer at the end since its hard to cheat

>>39104491
I used to have plans to, but nobody cares
And if they did we wouldnt be friends anyways
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>>39104500
Every actor I've met aside from 2 have been straight. The producers or directors are usually bi.

Makes sense if you extrapolate population data and assume that 10% of any given population of people in the us are gay or homosexual, that would still apply to the porn community. It's probably a tad higher since porn/bdsm crowds are openly accepting of literally all types but gay men really don't produce a lot of their own porn and even if they did, most have a huge fetish for turning straight guys.

I imagine half the fun for my audience is knowing that I'm not actually gay.
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>>39103629

Do you guys plan on staying on test for life? Does testicular atrophy matter to you at all?
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>>39104422
>Should get a higher resolution monitor
I've got a 4k monitor, I use it in 1080p because not so coincidentally that's about the break even point in image size, focal distance and average human visual acuity. 4k just makes the text and UI impractically small in exchange for desktop real estate I don't really use and video resolution my eyes can't fully resolve at comfortable viewing distances.

FACE
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I think Odesza is the most consistent chillwave artist. I can always zone out to their shit.
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>>39104605
>test for life
yes
>nut atrophy
no, in fact, I've got huge balls when I'm not on, and mine seem to shrink down to a relatively normal size, which is nice
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>>39104616
>I've got a 4k monitor
Arent you unemployed
Why do you need a 4k monitor
Smh
Smdh

>less than a month until 4k Idolm@s
Now thays exciting
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>>39104552
It's gay porn though.
You'd think dudes who actually like dudes would undercut a lot of the straight dudes.
I guess I was just under the misconception that g4p was it's own sub genre instead of the norm.

>>39104605
Doesn't bother me. I still get compliments on my balls, even with shrinkage.
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>>39104605
>Do you guys plan on staying on test for life?
its better off to do a bulk while on cycle and workout more than it is to blast and cruise for your health but some would say otherwise since injectables are muuuch safer

>Does testicular atrophy matter to you at all?
The new science now is saying that you can prevent shutdown while on cycle, while that is mostly BS even with HCG. AI, Anti E while cylce its not like its impossible with the right dosages

besides that you can almost always fully recover your balls while off cycle so it isnt a big deal
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>>39104628
Nujabes puts me on chill.
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>>39104652
Nah. Nearly all of my scene partners have been straight or bi. I mean I think it just describes a group of people acting, and audiences really just assume most of the product they're consuming is "g4p".

I mean there are gay dudes who act but there aren't nearly as many hot gay dudes as there are straight dudes.

It's really strange my man, all my gay friendos in college would pursue straight folk more often than gay folk. This includes my lesbian pals.
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>>39104698
>all my gay friendos in college
I never had any of those. I live in a pretty rural/conservative area.

You're the only gay friend I have bimbo. lol
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>>39104552
>assume that 10% of any given population of people in the us are gay or homosexual

That's still 4 times higher than the actual number m8
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>>39104719
I'm not gay.

And doggo I went to uni in Kentucky lmao there are rural gay people.
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>>39104698
gays tend to like the idea of hunting for there food. idk what it is but its what ive noticed from my gay friends, im guessing its some kind of disease they have that would make that mentality possible, but the reality is they know there are far more in the closet than there are openly gay. i mean shit before jewish and christan exterimist became a problem for the romans being gay was no more weird than having a drunking holiday whilst offering a sacrifce to there gods
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>>39104720
Oh is it? I thought like 10% of the pop was gay.
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>>39104742
Idk dude like the past 5 ladies I've actually dated preferred ladies to men. I like hunting for my food too.
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>>39104170
Look up Greg Nuckols Bulgarian method
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>>39104743
NPR reports 3%
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>>39104731
>I'm not gay.
lol You were complaining you couldn't take dicks more often just a few posts back.
>I went to uni
We'll look at me with my fancy education.

>>39104742
>being gay was no more weird than having a drunking holiday
Naw. They thought you were a bitch if you were gay. Unless you were the top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome
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>>39104827
Nice. I guess I'm just super entrenched in it. I see it everywhere.
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>>39104757
that or you have femine features wether it be personality or physically speaking. some gay/lesbian talk about how they prefer either side of the specturm and would be fine dating the opposite gender if it had fit there prefered ideals.

Futanari is another matter entirely but there are plenty of documentarys saying the same thing of straight porn is gay since im not the man and lesbian porn is boring since theres no penetration, so futanari is that weird inbetween thats a compromise of both since you can mentaly put your dick in the futas place whilst still haveing lesbians fuck, i dont have problem with gays i just have a problem with media promotion of it and the current cultural stuff thats being pushed onto kids and the society as a whole, that its always white people being gay. but im still not against it and i accept it as something natural
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>>39104831
That's dope money dude. This is business buddy.
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>>39104839
I like giving. Outside of physical dominance and general arrogance, the ladies are always the dominant personality.

Futa are dope.
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>>39104831
nice link i need to pick up more reading of classical history anyways, roma surrectum 2 taught me a lot but i dont have time to finish reading every unit and building description and it wont tell me the finer details of the countries history
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?251-Roma-Surrectum
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>>39104743
The most authoritative source currently is a survey of over 36k people nationwide, the total LGBT came in at 2.3% I believe.
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>>39104839
>Futanari
Always seemed extra gay to me.
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>be me
>22%bf
>frontload 2 grams test e over first 2 weeks
>for no raisin
>500mg next week
>in 4th week now

This week I had some pretty great pumps at the gym, making some steady progress.

No sides, unless u count a bit of water retention...I am taking asin every couple of days cause I'm just paranoid. I was going to do a dbol kickstart but im glad I didn't. Morning wood has returned, almost never used to get it.
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>>39104875
I only remember it, because a bunch of the graffiti at Pompeii was homophobic, which doesn't fit the modern concept of Rome as accepting gay dudes.

I think the idea comes from christian writers painting Rome as a sort of Sodom and Gomorrah, to vilify paganism.

>>39104884
>2.3% of people who answer surveys are gay
Good to know.
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>>39104378
deal
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>>39104930
funny how they still vilfify paganism and deny that marriage was only a christian thing when countries like modern day japan works fucking great with its paganism.

but history will always be rewritten becuase its doubleplusegood for peoples minds to think of the past being more barbaric than the current.
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>>39104927
I don't mind morning wood. It's kind of nice.
What I don't like is 3 am, can't go back to sleep till you masturbate wood.

>>39104971
I think it's pretty entertaining, that what was once used as a smear campaign is now seen as highly progressive.
>Look at all those disgusting faggots having sex!
>Look at all those faggots having sex! Isn't it great!


Don't get me wrong though, Rome was a pretty fucking barbaric place. Decimation, crucifixion, obliteration etc. not a place I'd ever want to visit.
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No bit really do raws ladt longer brewed???!?

>>39104971
>modern day japan works fucking great with its paganism.
Its not paganism though
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>>39105046
Shinto isn't real worship it's just like weird space cummies and foxes and ogres
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which one of y'all said meetmee was good?
It's all fat chicks
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so why do you guys choose to do it the non natty way?

you do realize no one will mire you if you aren't natty right?
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>>39105063
Youre right the omnipotent old dude who keeps killing everyone until he decides to run the whole thing as his baby son is way more sensible
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>>39105067
Course it is. Non fat/ugly chicks don't need dating sites to get a guy.
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>>39105046
i use that term lightly to describe the belief in multiple gods
>>39105043
>Don't get me wrong though, Rome was a pretty fucking barbaric place. Decimation, crucifixion, obliteration etc. not a place I'd ever want to visit.

not like it was easy to hunt down criminals when cameras existed, srs its better to have more brutal methods than it is to send criminals to jail or slavery when your more liable to have shit go wrong on top of wasteing money. prisons only exist because of liberals yet there still pro-choice(atleast blacks use the clinics more often than whites
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>>39105080
Don't forget he's a ghost force too
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>>39105091
Decimation was something they did to their own guys though. Killing 1 in 10 randomly, to improve morale.
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>>39105080
>he
>his
I think you mean Ze and Zer. Check your cis normative privileges.
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have been getting crippling back pain after squats and hamstring work. thought i did something wrong, figured out it is the tren pumps.

>>39105043
>What I don't like is 3 am, can't go back to sleep till you masturbate wood.
currently going through this. day 3 of no fap.
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>>39105135
No.
God is a black male.
This is indisputable.
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>>39105108
oh i know that term well its easiely the best form of punishment to do for maintaining manpower while in a war time situation annnnd keeping them in line so they dont run away again
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>>39105136
use Taurine and eat more bannas to reduce the debilitating back pump. you will also get shin pumps if you run and those suck alot
>>39105136
to avoid faping i recomend you do a burn out set after your done with your sets so you can be so tired that being horny or looking at porn is not worth your time.

but to me no fap is a meme
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>>39105072
That's what I thought too my first three years lifting.
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>>39105212
if you had been lifting for three years then your body looked good already, so why go full retarded and cross unnecessary limits?
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>>39105247
Because he was hungry. You seem like someone that's okay with being comfortable.
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>>39105247
>never having had dreams the post
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>>39105148
>god is a black male

for christ-cucks, yeah :^)

>it's time for this again

BETTER REV UP THOSE MEME MACHINES LADS
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>>39105148
I guess that would explain why fried chicken and watermelon tastes so good.
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>>39105308
And why white Women are so hot
It all comes together
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>>39105316
I dunno man mixed ladies look better every day
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>>39105278
got any graphs on the genetic distance between humans and neanderthals ? i still havent seen any while on pol
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>>39105278
>pol tries to understand science
meme machines in full motion
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>>39105308
>fried chicken and watermelon

Why are these always memed together? Do they eat these in combination with one another? Why don't we include grape soda in the watermelon/fried chicken stereotype more often?

>so many questions

fried chicken and waffles are fucking based though, like jesus christ who knew these two things would be so delicious together

>>39105316
concur

>>39105325
Things I would fuck until her pussy lips are raw and swollen, but never nut inside for 500, Alex.
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>>39105355
I've spent a lot of time cumming inside mixed ladies recently
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>>39105325
I want a pure japanese gf
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>>39105355
Mostly because the reconstructionist America economy really only allowed free blacks to farm cheaply: watermelon and chicken. It's a literal meme.
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>>39105067
why the fuck aren't you using tinder
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>>39105351
I'll have to dig through my folder, but I don't think I've got any on-hand

something to look into acquiring

>>39105353
>

>>39105366
you're a daring man, far more than I
>>39105385
this makes sense

>>39105378
I'll never get tired of these comparative graphics
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>>39105378
Is there a corrupted option
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I am pretty sure I have legit ADHD and need actual medication for it.

Is there a way to tell if I actually need it? I think going to some stupid ass doctor, they will just say I need it no matter what so they make money off me.

I don't want to take the drugs unless I actually have a problem though, because I heard while they are good for you if you HAVE ADHD, they fuck your brain up if you don't have it.
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>>39105409
no pictures, weak game
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>>39105449
It's just speed you probably need it regardless.
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Why would anyone take arimidex over aromasin?
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>>39105468
more potent mg per mg iirc, cheaper

given those two things, as long as you understand the rebound effect it has, it's a non-issue to manage it.
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>>39105418
No
Japanese women are made to stay pure for superior white genes

>>39105416
Youre in luck then

>>39105468
Its cheaper and stronger
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>>39105481
you can literally see how beta the person who drew this is just from looking at this image
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>>39105481
Why would you just look at the lady
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>>39105607
How would you fuck a dream

>>39105591
>wanting a dependent gf means youre beta
I want all subs to leave
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>>39105631
I fucked my dream girl
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>>39105631
>dependent
>shy and gets lonely easily
>not too pretty
>not too popular
>it's alright if she's weak

this is way past just dependent, this is "I want a girl who doesn't have a chance of meeting someone else other than me because I'm a low tier beta male who would lose her instantly"

smdh jerry
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>>39105631
do you have a tulpa jerry?
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>>39105631
>How would you fuck a dream
shes not real :C
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>>39105661
Dakis are tulpas for retards. that said, stop this.
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>>39105673
Did you just call jerry retarded?
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>>39105712
I've called him a lot worse chill
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>>39105640
Omg stop
Smh
Smdh

>>39105652
More like
>I want someome who I would cope well witj and understand where I am as a person
If youre not outgoing it would never work if your gf was

>>39105661
No
I dont get loney in long showers, dont need one

>>39105666
Shes always real in your heart

>>39105673
Other way around
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>>39103629
should you do a test cycle when youre a higher bf% than youd like and trying to lose weight or should you lose the weight first
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>>39105749
I'd lose weight first, you wanna eat everything on test unless you run weight cutting stuff
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>>39105758
watcha got in mind when you say weight cutting supps? the asthma meds that are supposed to increase your bodies temperature and lung capacity / effectiveness for cardio?
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>>39105770
Yeah, u can run clen and alb and it will decrease appetite, dnp otherwise and some other stims

Personally I can cut with gabapentin when on test
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>>39105787
There is zero reason to introduce this many drugs to the body.
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>>39105787
would test and clen along with a pct and estrogen inhibitor be a good first cycle? im trying to drop weight while kickstarting my gains. ive been in and out of the gym for years and im by no means dyel but i am fat
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>>39105787
i remeber you i cant belive i forgot to send the links to you eariler
http://www.stevecarper.com/li/list_of_lactose_percentages.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signature-Acting-Lactase-Caplets/dp/B000HI0CKS
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Do you guys get this horrible itchy rash all over the body, almost painful like (like needles pining you) when your estrogen gets too high?
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>>39104628

same here. sometimes i even listen to that while lifting (for warm up for cool down work)
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>>39105814
post pic

either cruise on 250 and add dnp to cut

or just stop being a fatass
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>>39105885
well no shit im gonna stop being a fatass. i wouldnt come to this board or this thread if i wasnt gearing up to start cutting. i lost 95lbs the last time i had a successful cut, went through a bunch of drug abuse and depression and put it back on

what do you mean cruise on 250, im a newb to gear
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>>39105920
>i lost 95lbs the last time i had a successful cut, went through a bunch of drug abuse and depression and put it back on

so you are not a fatass you are obese... might want to step away from the gear
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>>39105809
I mean, yeah not at the same time lol
>>39105814
I'd rather cut on Dnp, much faster and quicker. If I were you I'd do a normal 500mg ew 12 week test e cycle with ai+pct and then dnp after
>>39105829
Thanks my man, appreciate it

Also boys rate my dinner, chicken stew with sushi and salad with like everything in it
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>>39105954
6'4 300lbs. not sure of my bf%. i wouldnt say im obese, but im fat for damn sure.
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>>39105973
>over 94lbs of body fat

>>>>"i wouldn't say im obese"

post pic then if you're so sure

i'd like to see the 300 lb guy who isnt obese
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>>39105920
most TRT doses are 125mg weekly injects while a decent begginers doses is 250mg and if you cruise that for a year you will still receive good gains with minimal sides, AAS often start at 500mg weekly for Test and anything extra can be used for specific goals such as Dbol kickstart for 4weeks is good for strength and quick gains on a 12 week cycle and masteron while on cycle is great for body,composition since you want to be as lean as possible to show off your muscles

but stay away from steriods just use
daily dosage of
take 20,000IU of vitamin d 3 for maximal results
500mg DHEA test boosting its a legal precurssor hormone
500mg DIM estrogen blocking so your test doesnt convert
10mg Bioprine by source naturals to boost your absorption of the supplements (DO NOT TAKE WITH METHYLATED PRODUCTS)
shit works for old people and is legal and its worked for me as a bridge between cycles and on cycle for that extra boost
THIS IS FOR PUSSYS NOT WANTING TO ROID but want to play with there hormones.
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>>39105966
for cooking ideas you hungery skeleton
http://imgur.com/gallery/7QcBS
http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA
>>39103943
also check my links if you still need to learn or want to learn
>>
what are your red flags for your tinder matches?
stuff that makes you insta drop a girl
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>>39105255
>>39105274
hungry about what? to look like a freak?
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>>39106024
I don't cook, my mom does. She's damn good at it too since she cooks like 2-5 times a day cuz my family all eats at different times and until after midnight.
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>>39106042
If they have my sisters or ex's name. Anything else who cares.
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>>39106042
thank me later
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>>39106042
is she fat?

that's literally it

I'm just banging these women, there is no gf material on tinder
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>>39106045
>I don't cook, my mom does
>posts rtz
lol
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>>39106045
>weak chin = low test
now i can see why youd want to roid in order to fix such a horrendous facial problem
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>>39106042
>stuff that makes you insta drop a girl

she uses[used] tinder
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>>39106114
what a coincidence
>>39106130
that's not me, i've got a decent chin lad
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>>39106064
This is insanity. Stop posting this.
>>
So I finished my test cycle. Put on 15lbs over 3 months, and lifts went up majestically. Researching and finding out information about what to do on roids, I forgot something fairly important.
What the fuck do I do now? Do I keep bulking as long as my testosterone levels are still high? Do I maintain for X amount of time and let my fat burn and build muscle? Or do I start cutting immediately?
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>>39106281
Only 15?
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>>39106298
Sorry, eurofag so conversion went wrong. ~22 pounds.
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>>39106281
are you cruising or did you pct?

if you're pcting, you can't cut just yet unless you want to deflate like a popped balloon

if you're cruising, yeah just start cutting

> Do I keep bulking as long as my testosterone levels are still high
what do you even mean by this
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Cheers mates, indigestion tiem
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>>39106338
any fruits to go with it ? i honestly dont know if its gonna help but id like to know
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>>39106338
Where the fuck is your mouse
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>>39106312
Cruising.
Your testosterone levels don't drop down to normal until about 4 months afterwards on test E, and for the first month after last injection they're still fairly high compared to normal. Was just wondering if I should keep bulking for ~3 more weeks or start cutting/maintaining now.
I'll start cutting now, bored of stuffing my face full of food already anyway.
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>>39106361
I don't know where you got this but no.
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>>39106064

That is some of the most ridiculous stuff I have ever read. Who came up with that?
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This is directed at the weaboos in /fraud/ (jerry)
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>>39106343
I had some pineapple before
Now I'm drinking my milk with pressed grapefruit juice

>>39106348
Here my man
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>>39106408
r9k
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>>39106423
Joan is my waifu tho
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Why does 99% of peoples DNP results look like shit? Every time I use it I drop INSANE amounts of fat but all these fucking people look exactly the same
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>>39106423
>waifu
>worst rub raibu

>>39106504
Its almost like drugs dont fix poor willpower and diet
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Benching fucks with my supraspinatis.

Can I get all of my benching in on decline without my chest ending up looking fucked? The slightly shorter ROM means it doesn't mess with my tendons.

Program includes incline DB and strict ohp as well as push press, and cable flies as the primary chest isolation.

tl;dr will my chest look fucked up if I don't flat bench.
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>>39106504
Post example pic.

If they take the after too soon they could potentially be covered in water waiting to be shed, as one possible explanation.
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>>39106558
Arnold is my ideal chest, for reference. I know insertions play a role, but his pec is evenly developed.
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>>39106606
Who drinks wine like this?
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>>39106558
Pull overs
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Dear lord my stomach is rumbling really loud

I'm gonna drive to the store to get some probiotic yogurt and shit
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>>39106625
Iunno but it's my favorite Arnold pic.

Pic related is what I dont want. Looks like lower chest is much bigger than the upper attachment.

>>39106637
Isn't that a lats exercise? It's like a stiff armed pullup with the bar
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>>39106672
He just had no delts is all
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>>39106672
That's just lighting and genetics brah
upper chest lower chest isolation is a meme
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>>39106581
Don't wanna post pics cuz they are from when I was natty and dyel as fuck. First run I went from 18-20% bf to 10% (maybe less because i had literally 0 muscle but visible abs relaxed) over 3 weeks of 500mg first 4 days were 250mg. Didn't really track weight. I already had cutting experience tho and a pretty strong willpower, just wanted to speed it up

Second run (tried bulking as a low test natty and just got fat again over 6 months or so) lost 33lbs in whatever this timespan is. 10-11 days was with no dnp, 11 days of 250mg, 18 days 500mg.

33lbs of fat in 40 days. i was on psmf for probably half the time of this, but the first half I had college finals so I was giving myself ~1300-1400 calories a day total, because I needed some carbs for my brain to function to get good grades.

my abdominal skinfold went from fucking 33mm (HOLY SHIT) to 6mm. do you realize how insane that fucking is in 40 days?
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>>39106683
I disagree, they're two sperate muscles. One attaches at the sternum and the other at the clavicle.

Insertions and shoulder structure may favor one head over the other, but you should be able to structure your program to avoid rampant hypertrophy of one head over the other.
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>>39106706
>>Second run (tried bulking as a low test natty and just got fat again over 6 months or so) lost 33lbs in whatever this timespan is. 10-11 days was with no dnp, 11 days of 250mg, 18 days 500mg.
checked log it was actually 17 days with no dnp, because i took a 1 week off of dnp towards the end because i ran out and wanted to keep cutting while it left my system

so 47 days whatever. 33lbs in 47 days is retarded
>>
>>39106706
No I mean from these people who got no results.

And you cant compare a 40 day run complete with psmf with people who run 400mg for two weeks at 500-1000 deficit.
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>>39106711
Honestly I've just never noticed either chest muscle looking off. If somebody looks like they have shit upper upper body it's usually because of tiny delts and narrow shoulders imo
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>>39106743

it was only 29 days on dnp the rest was without it

and that's what i am saying people are retarded. they just want to take the dnp and eat like fat fucks. like really 500-1k deficits, you're taking a fucking poison, do it right

heres a shit ass example
https://www.reddit.com/r/bodybuilding/comments/2wx22p/dnp_diary/
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r8 don't h8
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>>39106800
You lost that much fat and then gained that much muscle in 12 weeks
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>>39106761
Every once in a while you notice a dude with lower pecs way more hypertrophied than upper. That pic was an ok example but I've definitely seen much worse.

I just personally like the look of either a flat chest or huge clavicular head. I know frame and insertions play the biggest role but I want to influence it as much as I can, which is why Im asking about decline bench.

Pic related is what Im talking about as far as massive upper chest. It looks cool as fuck.
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>>39106826
the two last pics are 12 weeks apart

the cut took months
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>>39106846
But my insertions are much closer to Dolph than this guy, which is, again, why Im worried if my main benching movement is decline I might over favor my sternal head over the upper one. Incline and flat benching with the barbell fucks my supraspinatis but benching is easily where I feel my chest working the most.

Im just neurotic and was hoping someone had an anecdote of experience with something like this.
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>>39106800
Needs more sun and back work/10
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>>39106902
Work cable flyes often
>>
When you reach the fraud limit is it reasonable to start systematically killing everyone that has a higher limit?
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>>39107033
I do but they never leave me feeling like bench does.

Got a video of someone explaining perfect technique? I know Im overthinking things but if it helps, it helps. Thanks
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>>39107065
Bodybuilding isn't like dragon ball I don't think.
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>>39107065
>>39107078
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
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>>39107076
No I don't. If you can feel it easily though.
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>>39107078
Fuck you I'm not gonna be second best
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>>39107166
I can't argue with that.
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>>39106902
you could always do grease the grove with your pushups on the daily to help build up your chest more and you get the benefit of working on stability for your abs as a sideffect

do no less than 150 reps of the movement of your choice in the video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_fdeSQhMLk

https://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/greasing-the-groove-how-to-make-it-work-for-you
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How to get a fraud bf?
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>>39106672
Hits both dummy

>>39107166
Youll never beat big ramy
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>>39107330
look like wonder woman
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>>39107330
Actually just have that body and we're set also be gorgeous but good luck I'm picky
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>>39107355
Tfw you can't girlyfraud
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>>39107377
You can? Easily too.
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>>39107331
>Youll never beat big ramy
So I'll slip him some poison
>>
Brehs I drank two glasses of milk and currently am feeling fine, no bloating or anything, wooo
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>>39104628
muh negro. Listen to Big Wild and Rufus du sol if you like Odesza. Nujabes is also tight
>>
What's the highest you guys have EZ bar curled? Are there people that can comfortably curl higher than 1 plate?
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>>39107388
How?
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>>39107410
success ? when do you receive your shitty symtoms ?
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>>39107330
>want to restore the glory of the white race to the greater European geographic area through breeding and spreading culturally traditional beliefs
>be at least 7/10
>offer to help pin glutes when rotation no longer possible
>don't be anything like westernized women
>want to settle down and have children as early as 24
>have good birthing hips
>enjoy the outdoors
>be well-spoken, but not up-tight

oh wait these are my personal ideals

basically just look like your pic to get a fraud bf


>>39107410
I hate this picture

every time I see it, it triggers some primal autism deep within me

It's not even the message of the picture, or the motive or whatever

I just want to strangle this woman to death and bury her in a shallow grave by a river where some lonely child will wander out of the trailer park while his father beats his mother within inches of her losing her life, and have him discover the body
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>>39107434
>want to restore the glory of the white race to the greater European geographic area through breeding and spreading culturally traditional beliefs
Aren't most of you sterile?
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>>39107434
>hating redheads
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>39107330
be fit and well read. then want to have dozen kids is enough for me to get a hard on for. dumb women is an instant turn off for me
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>>39107433
Usually stomach rumbles 15-20 mins after drinking milk
1-2 hours after I get bloating and constantly fart
currently 2+ hours and barely any bloat, feeling good man
>>39107434
damn lad thats harsh
>>
Any /fraud/s have any experience with SARMs?
MK-677 or YK11 specifically
>>
>>39107078
>I don't know what the movie "The Highlander" is
>>
>>39107449
MEME its all a MEME most people who abuse it tend to PCT with HCG and anti estrogens, as a result it restores the balls to working order and you can produce test again at orginal levels majority of the time
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>>39107458
I don't hate redheads

redheads are my favorite second only to brunettes with green eyes

I just want to fucking murder this woman and bathe in her blood

>>39107449
that's like 50% myth

it's true sterility can be induced on cycle (especially on compounds like TREST) but more often than not sterility doesn't result from running other compounds, and it can be countered anyway.
see>>39107476

>>39107465
no personal experience but people like MK677 quite a bit. Going to be running it for a few months starting with my next blast.
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>>39107331
Ok fine I'll try them out.

What works best, low intensity lots of volume, or high intensity lowish volume?
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>>39107428
Eat anavar or winny. I don't recommend winny.
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>>39107388
Please don't leave me hanging
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>>39107495
german volume training

bulgarian method

both are high volume

and

http://www.powerliftingtowin.com/powerlifting-programs/

for everything else refer to this glorious website
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>>39107503
I meant fraud girly features, not fraud as a girl. Anavar won't get me >>39107330 looks. And I can't increase estro because we're naturally near the limits of our receptors
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>>39107516
>tfw just finished plotting my excel sheet for customized westside-based routine

decided to scrap the 5/3/1 components in conjunction with westside, mostly because there wasn't enough carryover to warrant it

>>39107534
that's like me asking for the genetics of masT

I could only ever dream to be that beautiful of a human being
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>>39107534
workout more and eat more eggs(with yolk) whilst cooking in butter is your only natural option for increasing testosterone, that i would go to this website if you want to learn how and why you should workout a certain way see>>39107516
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>>39107516
Im talking specifically pullovers.

And seriously youre trying to sell Bulgarian as high volume? And then recommend me a list of powerlifting programs when I cant flat bench?

AND you were recommending greasing-the-groove as a hypertrophy technique?

Dude you need to take a step back.
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>>39107552
>tfw a beautiful human being

Too bad I'm tobacco spit and used condoms on the inside.
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>tfw oneitis

Someone make me snap out of it.

Shes in Boston living with her bf right now, just moved. She doesn't want to be there but I told her I didn't want her to resent me if she stayed and things didn't work out.

We decided not to talk for a bit and to reconnect in a month or two and see where things are.

I still think about her every day. I wonder if she still does ;_;

She called me when she was drunk a few weeks ago and asked me if I loved her, though.

Meanwhile in roid-town, I just switched gyms. Shoulder is feeling better but I decided no more bar benching and no more OHP. Sadly my gym's DB don't go up past 110lbs. The universe just doesn't want me to be jacked.

/blog
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>>39107552
5/3/1 is shit m8

It was good for me as a natty who was stalling but the progression is lame. What is it, 5lbs every month? Fuck that.
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>>39107558
I.. I'm saying I wish I could fraud for GIRLY features. In what warped interpretation could you get that to me wanting to raise test?
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>>39106064
>someone actually went to the trouble to write all this sperg shit

christ
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>>39107552
Look up GZCL jacked and tan 2.0

Perfect /fraud/ program if you like to lift heavy.

Westside isn't going to do you much good as a raw lifter, and without all the crazy equipment Louis has at his gym. Speedwork is mostly useless unless youre crazy strong, and I mean CRAZY strong, and then it's only good because if you lift heavy your recovery takes forever and neural drive goes to shit.
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>>39107552
>that's like me asking for the genetics of masT
True but at least you can cheat yourself way beyond what mere mortals considered normal a few generations back
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>>39107605
>bulgarian method
that image you posted is a FIT woman women who are fiter eat healthier and as a result have higher test levels so eat and workout more if you WISH instead of WILL fraud for those figures
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>>39107586
cut off all contact if you want to move on
no text, no fb, no nothing
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>>39107586
I feel this shit.
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>>39107622
is the standard template okay for natties?
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>>39107641
She's not particularly fit
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>>39107605
>fraud for GIRLY features
Plastic surgery?

>>39107566
pullovers used to be THE chest exercise since the 20's
>squats and oats
literally used to be
>squats oats and pullovers

Also, Arnold credited to giving him his massive pecs, Ronnie his back and Zane his serratus.
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>>39107578
>tobacco spit and used condoms on the inside
you and estp really should've dated desu

>>39107601
hence why I'm moving away from it. The progression is fine on it, but like you said, it's way too infrequent.

>>39107622
>crazy equipment
I'm

C O L U M B U S
B
U
So my gym has most of the gear that Louis implements in all of his variable exercises.

It's mostly a strongman-centric gym, so they incorporate pretty much everything from his principles in their equipment already.

Speedwork I've supplemented with alternating repetition work (speed week, rep week, speed week, rep week during deload)
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>>39107655
It's self regulated, so yeah.

Maybe go easy on the T2/3 stuff if you have problems with recovery but you should be fine. Tons of natty4lifes run it over at r/weightroom

It's just a better template for /fraud/ than most other strength-based programs IMO because there's so much room to include volume and Bodybuilding work, while still prioritizing the big lifts.
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>>39107690
No that would have been a murder suicide.
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>>39107644
we did that already. Deleted everything, unfriended etc. She broke protocol that night she called.

I don't want to move on tbqh... I know she doesn't either. She's kinda stuck there because she made this commitment before we ever even met. If she comes back, she'd still have to pay rent at his place until he finds someone to live with him. Who knows where she'd live.

I told her it was the right thing to do, to go up there with him at least for now. If she truly doesn't love him like she thinks and it wasn't just a fling with me, then she'll be back.

I'm not sitting around waiting for her... but I am kinda.

>>39107649
Your situation is diff m8 stay strong.

Or maybe its not that different, dunno.

>>39107690
oh ok, haven't caught up on the thread yet
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>>39107683
I guess, but that's a lot more expensive, and I don't think I'd be very happy with being synthetic
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>>39107690
I'd still cut the speedwork unless youre equipped, the only purpose of it is neural conditioning and you probably don't need that unless you're at or close to your LBM limit.

But otherwise glad to see youre not some newbie who got sucked into a meme cause WESTSIDE BARBELL BABY and you have a good setup. Good luck.
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>>39107728
Wait are you a trap or actually a woman?
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>>39107727
It's not that different. Mine just contacts me obnoxiously often for someone who needs to be done.
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>>39107751
Actual woman
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>>39107683
Cool I like oldschool stuff cause autism.

Any idea why I never see them nowadays though?

Do you have a favorite video or guide or something?
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>>39107747
thanks m8

will look in to alternatives for the speed week and try each for a mesocycle and see which I prefer

part of what makes me want to keep the speed work is diagnosing a personal issue with explosiveness, self-acknowledged for the short time I was doing oly lifting is I just lack an explosiveness in movement, figured speed work could help to remedy that.

>>39107727
don't think I made mention of it so nbd

>>39107751
there's no difference you fucking shitlord, jesus christ tag your post with a fucking trigger alert next time
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>>39107752
Your shit is volatile af tho isn't it?

I had one of those... on and off and on and off. Fights, making up. She jumped on the roof of my car butt ass naked after chasing me out of the house. She dropped kicked the fuck out of me when I caught her cheating and kicked her out of our apartment. I accidentally ran her over in my car kek

After we cheated on each other a hundred times I moved away and then a year later moved back. We tried again. Then she got preggers with some dude and got married. Thank god because I bet we'd still be fucking (thats all we really had, good sex and drama).

She STILL texts and wants to fuck soemtimes. What a whore
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>>39107802
That's true love hold on that special thing.

But yeah that sounds right.
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>>39107767
Oh. Well muscle looks better than flab anyways. Do you mean you just aren't very curvy? No tiggles?

Some things you just can't change. Worry about the things you can. Squat for dat ass, trim up for a lean look and get some nice legs/arms. You'll be 7/10 in no time.

>>39107774
>By the 1970s and '80s, bodybuilders had access to more fully equipped gyms with an assortment of specialized machines to better target specific bodyparts. One of those machines was the Nautilus pullover.

>Invented in the early '70s by bodybuilding guru Arthur Jones, it was nicknamed "the upper body squat" as a credit to its relative importance among exercises.

>But the new variety of machines also led to a lesser reliance on certain old standards, such as the free weight pullover. In the '90s, popularity of the lift dropped sharply, likely due to the rise of "functional training" and a general wussiness creeping further into gyms.

>By the 2000s, non-lifting "exercise scientists" had successfully spread pullover-phobia, citing everything from impending shoulder injuries to plain old ineffectiveness, and the lift became something only seen in black and white photos.

>https://www.t-nation.com/training/pullovers-bodybuildings-most-controversial-exercise

>>39107814
Fuck that man, Im too old for that crap
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>>39107802
>that essay
man i don't know how people put up with that garbage/drama and still want the other person.
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yay or nay? pic related
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>>39107841
That was over like a 3 year span. We dated other people here and there also.

It was just intense and the sex was amazing. She knew me better than anyone else. Still does, probably. This was a long time ago, btw
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>>39107839
I'm old enough to known better but in enough hormones that I don't give a shit.
>>39107841
You've just never fucked a pussy that felt as if it was made for you? Like a literal perfect fit.
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>>39107860
I'm telling you I know exactly how this is. You have to crave the highs and lows.
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>>39107853
why so low?
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>>39107776
>explosiveness
Do you have a reason to be explosive or do you just think explosiveness helps you lift better?

As far as barbell compounds your time and work capacity is WAAAAAY better spent just lifting heavier shit or higher volumes. Speed work usually only comes into play when youre pretty much at your limit for intensity and volume, as sometimes it can get you an extra 2-5% without demolishing your ability to recover. Effect on total bar velocity is pretty minimal.

If you need to be explosive in general for a sport, I would do throws, jumps, and sprints. I would check out Chad Wesley Smith's stuff first and go from there. For barbell lifts youre better off doing your explosive stuff with the lifts youre already working on, to really wire in that neural drive and specificity.


This is all just fine tuning though it seems like you have a decent idea at least of what youre up to Im sure you'll make good gains.
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>>39107885
because first cycle? maybe I could increase it for cycle 2

do you think 100 e3d is bad? or not enough?
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>>39107839
>Do you mean you just aren't very curvy? No tiggles?
Look I'm alright, I was just making banter that there's no female equivalent of the fraud path
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>>39107853
That's barely over high natty levels, if that. Might not even go over 1200ng/ml

Go for 250mg E3D like everyone else.
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>>39107904
100 E3D is a cruise dosage

if you're hopping on for TRT, it would put you within normal ranges if you are an average or poor responder to the compound.

If you're hopping on to blast and cruise or cycle for training purposes, you need to go higher than that. It won't (likely) put you in supraphysiological ranges

>>39107891
>need for explosiveness

mostly it's just an enjoyment of training for it, I find that it probably has the most carryover to daily life out of any strength training (or relatively related to strength training at least) principle, so I enjoy incorporating it for that reason

no real quantifiable reason otherwise.
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>>39107909
Yeah being a man is pretty great, in almost every way.

Smarter, bigger, faster, stronger, etc.
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>>39107909
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>>39107931
I would nix the compound speed work then and do stuff with throws, jumps, and sprints.

It'll give your joints a bit of rest from the specificity of BB strength training, introduce some variety, and will definitely do more for your "functional explosiveness" than speed work.

Just my unsolicited advice. Take it as you will.
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>>39107904
>>39107885
>>39107853
>>39107931
>If you're hopping on to blast and cruise or cycle for training purposes, you need to go higher than that. It won't (likely) put you in supraphysiological ranges

well yeah I'd like to make a standard bulk with my first cycle

I'd like to run 2 cycles of 12 weeks each, then start a PSMF on month 7

so 250mg E3D then?
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>>39107940
I'm not sure I personally would feel that was an improvement. Very impressive tho.
>>39107935
Sure, whatever
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>>39107956
How would you recommend replacing the speed work while still maintaining roughly the same schedule that westside provides, then?

Asking because it would be easy enough for me to just add in jumps, sprints, and the like with my max effort days currently (in which I already have some conditioning work such as sled pulling)

Always good to discuss training, always room for improvement, so I welcome the advice.

>>39107962
do more research is all I can say, but 250mg E3D is a good point to start, add an oral to kickstart that if you'd like

people will advise dbol

I highly advise against dbol for a first cycle. Fucks with estrogen too much, and while you're already attempting to dial in an AI when dealing with the increased test, you don't want to have to micro adjust for that as well
>>
>>39107962
>Two cycles back to back
What

That's just an extended blast.
>>
>>39107994
my interpretation was that he meant 2 12 week blasts accompanied by a bridging cruise, then coming off
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>>39107962
>>39107986
>people will advise dbol

no thanks, if I add a cocktail upfront, If I get any sides, I wont know which compound is fucking me up

I'll stick to Test-E only to start
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>>39103629
hey guys, super low t fag here, anyways, been on 250mg test C for 4 weeks, then up to 300 for the past 3ish weeks, cutting at 1900 cals per day, 230 protons and low carb. good combo or nah? should I fuck with tren after my next bloods for my doctor?
>>
>>39107986
Personally I wouldn't run Westside outsode of Louis' gym. Pretty sure Louis himself has said the same. From what Ive seen it's most useful for those much closer to their strength limits than most people ever get, and as such not as useful for intermediate lifters.

All that is to say I really dont know what you should do to fit those into the program. If you're not competing Id say just put them wherever they seem to fit and just have fun with it, this is just a way to relieve stress/have fun/get-fuckin-hyyyuuuugggee and you can accomplish all that in lots of different ways.

Keep the thread updated as to how Westside does end up working for you, please.
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>>39108002
He said "psmf on the 7th month"

That implies 6 months of blast, or two 12-week blasts back to back (i.e. just a 6month blast)
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>>39108061
>shouldn't run WS outside of his gym
yeah he's made a comment to that effect

I'd tend to agree, but I think the greater columbus area is about as close as anyone can get to westside without being invited to the gym itself, so may as well attempt it for the hell of it anyway

will keep updated on it m8y

>>39108070
didn't think about it that much

you're correct in any case, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of knowledge of what he's about to inject into his ass anyway

r/steroids wiki
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>>39107940
>3 years and that body
what shitty genetics
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>>39107868
>You've just never fucked a pussy that felt as if it was made for you?
Yea but there's a limit to how big a pedestal I can put pussy on. To each their own I guess, but I'll never see things your way.
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>>39108123
Pin more tren.
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>>39108051
MORE TESTOSTRONE
try 500mg for 8 weeks then think of using tren
theres no need to add more compounds until you reach that bench mark doesage tbqh
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>>39108157
issue there is that due to post college career goals, I need to not buy illegal "drugs", so im working with what I have stockpiled from my trt, I have enough test to run 14 more weeks @300, and I want to lean out and add size, blah blah. I also have to have bloods done for the doc in mid Jan, would I be better off blasting 500 until mid december?
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>>39108199
> I need to not buy illegal "drugs"

unless your company does steriod specific testing you are completely fucking fine still using them it will not show up in a standard drug test

>would I be better off blasting 500 until mid december?

depends upon if you have Anti estrogens to go with it for your PCT if not then extending it out with 250 or 300 sounds just fine if your looking to stretch out the success with little sides and little need for a proper PCT although you still need to consider it if your not used to it or knownly have bad sides while comming off of it
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>>39108233
not worried about pct, on trt for the foreseeable future, so lifetime test atlest 100ew. since ive been at 250ish for about 5 weeks would 500 kick in quickly? what should I have on hand for AI? ideally going into law enforcement with polygraph where they ask about illicit drugs
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>>39108233
sounds to me like a lie detector test bypass

technically didn't buy "illegal" drugs, just used legal ones in an illegal manner.
>>
Who has the boggest most perfect dong on fraud?
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>>39108271
thats the idea, I want to mess with tren but havent reached the fuck it why not mindset yet. not sure how hard they will press about that kind of thing
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>>39108267

if you take 500mg doseages then your gonna for sure need PCT as far as kicking in quickly all depends upon the ester entirely
http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/309685-understanding-esters-active-life-half-life.html

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
http://www.anabolicsteroids.net/post-cycle-therapy.php
http://www.postcycletherapy.net/#forward
https://www.steroid.com/post-cycle-therapy.php
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>>39108267
>not worried about pct, on trt for the foreseeable future
>>39108341
>if you take 500mg doseages then your gonna for sure need PCT
you REALLY need to stop posting with your retardation, shit tier broscience links and awful supplement shilling
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>>39108353
my logic here is that since ive been on 250ew for a while, upping to 400 or 500 should have a quicker effect than going 0-500, and that since I will never be off test, this is more B&C and therefore dont need to worry about pct. also, if I need to have my test in the 250ng/dl range in mid Jan, when should I quit blasting lol, i was thinking drop to 100ew 4 weeks prior to the blood test
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>>39108353
>comming to fraud and not expecting broscience
WEW LAD how many doctors precribe AAS doesages unless its paid off athletes?

>awful supplement shilling
wish i was a shill my life would be so much easier im just sharing my knowledge so the newfags on the general can GTFO
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>>39108373
in case it wasn't clear, >>39108353
was directed at >>39108341. everything he says is FUCKING STUPID

yes, your testosterone will hit its peak levels much faster going from 250mg than from 0. plot your shit on http://steroidcalc.com/

no you won't need to PCT, that's why the other guy is fucking stupid
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>>39108407
perfect, thank you. what should diet look like on 500ew? 5,11, 183, 14bf. like I said, currently at 1950 cals per day cuttting, cuts not going so great, want to ad lean size
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>>39107839
So should I do pullovers on flat or decline for best activation of chest?
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>>39108115
It's called being a woman.
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>>39103841
this is a shit reaction photo. you
seriously saw that and thought "lol it says autism awareness on her hat so I'm gonna save this picture and send it to a stranger I disagree with later"?
>>
so /fraud/ was it worth it? also i am interested does any of you live outside the us if so when asked do you say you are natty or tell the truth?
>tfw live in mexico and almost anything is legal do to taco cops
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New thread.

>>39108528
>>39108528
>>39108528
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