/run/ - Running Thread "Winter Is Coming" Edition

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>started running again last month after 5 years of nothing
>23:52 5k
>my pr in high school was 18:30
Can I ever get back to a time like that, or is 23 just too old?

ran 4 miles in 22 minutes felt good brehs
>I ordered a gore-tex knockoff outdoor research jacket and it's shipping
>going to train on the offseason between xc and track for the first time
I'm gonna make it brehs

>>39097504
I took 3 years off after high school, so iktf. I'd run local races and get my block knocked off by kids still in HS. I found a summer track series that motivated me to get sort of back into shape (went from a 6:30 mile the first year I did it to a 4:50 by the end of the second). Now I run with XC at a JC and after training every week I'm 3rd fastest on the team. you really don't realize how much running with a team strengthened you back in HS until they're gone.

>>39097504
You can, you gotta give yourself time and consistent training. It took me about 7 months to get back to around 15:30 in the 5k, but I didn't gain that much weight since high school to be fair.

>>39097521
>>39097504
hell there could even be room for improvement. I never timed myself in a 4 mile effort back in HS, but 5:30 pace felt really good, it being midseason and everything. it really depends on how boneheaded you were in high school. I insisted on never training in offseason and didn't drink nearly enough fluids. now I drink at least a half a gallon a day and it's really paid off. after workouts I'm rarely sore and have noticed a much greater ability to recover.
>>39097529
how did you motivate yourself to run? did you make the comeback alone?

>>39097545
>I insisted on never training in offseason
That's how I was too; still sometimes regret being a lazy fuck in hs and not reaching my full potential

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>>39097545
one more thing I should mention is that I was professionally diagnosed with autism and schizophrenia while I was in high school. this means that I was put on psych medications which made me put on ~30 pounds. up until week and a half ago I was on an injectable form of risperidone. now I vape CBD and went from 24:00 in a 4 mile effort to 22:00 in about 2 weeks. I really like running but when coach makes us do core workouts (pushups and shit) I cry like a bicth lol

>>39097596
iktf. I am gonna go for a jog bc it's midnight and it finally stopped raining lol

How do I get a faster 1.5 mile time?

did 4km yesterday, left leg felt weird, like it had not yet completely healed.
should I try similar distance today or wait for it to heal completely? will a minor run help it heal faster? say, not a 10km, but maybe a 5k or 7k?

Aside from running shirtless, what kind of shirt will chafe the least when wet? I'm guessing I should get a running singlet/tank top?

>>39097642
just fucking run shirtless if it's really a problem

nobody will care

>>39097659
I am unsightly and jiggle a lot.....

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>>39097642
Basically anything made out of lightweight synthetics. You could also wear a compression top and whatever over it.
I actually lube up before going on training. Just smother your nips in vaseline (or your lube of choice). You can do the same for whatever hot spots on your body.
For instance when going out on trail races I cover in vaseline my armpits (possible chaffing due to camelback straps), the area above my hips (straps again),my groin (needs no explanation) and of course nipples.

>>39097664
If you do jiggle, compression apparel is your best bet. You will look like an overcooked sausage but it will help.

Any advise for runners knee?Should I just take a break from running or what

>39097481
>joggers sweat, runners bleed

what did he mean by this?

>>39097633
If you are worried about the impact of running try bicycling or swimming. When I was in HS I ran on a micro fracture in my foot and it was probably a bad idea.>>39097609
It's a beautiful night. I'm tempted to go on a distance run bc it's a full moon.

>>39097726
Idk I saw it on a shirt

>>39097699
I Vaselined my nipples and my running shirt had fucking Vaseline stains in them even after washing. I didn't even notice until midway through the run I noticed I had marks on my shirt that looked like I was fucking lactating.

No matter how moisture wicking, the shirt gets pretty heavy after being drenched with sweat and starts rubbing on my nips. Would a compression shirt stop this from happening?

>>39097714
You're probably over pronating. Look into that.

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>>39097757
It could. And if it doesn't you can always tape that area.
Get some surgical adhesive tape or waterproof bandage (at your friendly local apothecary), take your ordinary trimmer, trim the area around your nipples (depending of how hairy you are this step might be skipped), and simply tape over your nipps.

>>39097757
Maybe look at "corn" bandages but bigger. You'd have to make them yourself, but they're like donuts where your nips would go in the holes of. Just don't make them to big or you'll look like uve got tiddies

I went from not ever touching a treadmill at the gym to getting on it an hour a day and running atleast 50% of the time

feels good man, just gotta work my way up to more and more

>>39097938
Have you tried running outside?

>>39097726
Maybe he wants to start a fight with runners but doesn't have a problem with joggers.

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>tfw the brutal summer has come to an end

>>39097786
This could very well be the problem, thanks, any advise towards correcting it beyond just consciously correcting it while running?

>>39097963
i have not, for some reason i have never been good at running outside. i know it's different than treadmill running so my form is probably all screwy if i were to go out anywhere

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>mfw living in finland and running all year round

Anyone else /love winter/ here?

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>>39098076
vittu ei

tiet jäässä ja polut lumen peitossa

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>>39098117
Bohoo

>>39098129
en oo löytäny nastoja kengille jotka tukee ylipronaatiota

>>39098129
ei auta vittuakaa epätasasta lunta vastaan, ei oo kiva juosta ku pitää koko ajan tuijottaa maahan ettei mee nilkat paskaks

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>>39098150
>>39098165
Ok

>>39098076
>>39098117
>>39098129
What would you guys suggest for winter run? Shoes, clothes, anything else that you do different?
I don't want to stop running but I hate treadmills.

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>>39098216
I actually run with normal shoes in a city environment so mix of trails and pebbled sidewalks, but there are also shoes made for icy surfaces. Check out Icebug. Truth is you cant run as fast as when its not slippery.
Atleast here they sell winter running thighs. For upper body normal winter sportswear? Like cross country skiing equipment. Layers and dry keeping materials. Gloves.

>>39098394
Also: theres no one answer since winter weather here varies from +5C to -30C

>>39098394
>>39098401
And cover your ears!

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>>39097481
>joggers sweat, runners bleed

>>39097481
>if you feel acute pain when you run, stop and consult a physician or the internet. otherwise pain is good
It's been a few years since I've ran, and reading this reminded me why I stopped. Basically, when I'd run or jog for basically anything longer than a half mile, I'd have to stop thanks to an extremely sharp, almost pinching sensation at what I'd call the base of my spine, rather than any real loss of breath. Until I find out what causes this for me, I don't think I'll be running in the future either, which sucks because I could certainly do with shedding some weight. Any anons have a clue? The best I could come up with was my running form being fucked in some way.

What is "good running form" and "proper breathing"?
>Keep your body straight and your core somewhat tight
>Look in front of you
>Land on the middle of your feet
>Don't stomp the ground but slightly touch it and propel yourself forward, as if your feet were springs
>Breathe rythmically, however fast you need
>Inhale from nose and exhale from mouth if possible, else breathe from your mouth
Are these right?

>>39098551
Stomach sucks in and chest rises when you breathe out, sticks out when you breathe out. May seem intuitive to a lot of people but I know I wasn't breathing with my diaphragm a lot in the beginning

>>39098551

"middle"; aim for the ball
honestly you know how to run already, it ain't complex, you learned it when you were 1 year old.
fast breathing is for beginners, and it can exhaust your lungs and the related muscle very fast; what you want is deep breaths that take maximum amount of O2 to your body. you aren't having a panic attack, you are performing intensive exercise. deep calm breaths with a relaxing tempo.

once you run enough you will discover that nasal breathing limits the amount of O2 you can intake, which results in everyone who runs choosing to breath through the mouth.

>run a 10k yesterday
>completly stoned
>notice I place my feet not on my ball, or even roll it from the side.
>more like, wrap it around the ground somehow.
>feel one with nature

I want to start running but I also just started lifting, will it effect my gains?

>>39098901
calories in, calories out

laws of physics may apply

Wintertime! Run on dirt nature trail near house. Only run outside, hate treadmill. Wintertime time means cold weather military boots and knee deep snow. 4 mile run makes quads burn like fire.

>>39097481
When I begun to move I weighed 97 kilos, took pills for my acid reflex and every part of my body ached. I'd be out of breath just walking up the stairs at work. At the first sign of a common cold my asthma would blow up and I'd be coughing for days.

In short, I wanted to die.

Something inside of me snapped. I bought myself a pair of running shoes and headed out. Jogging was terrible, and brief intervalls of running was rewarded with a veritable fist to my swelling gut. I wanted to give up, to go home and shovel my face full of crisps and coke and chocolate, and every lamp post and park bench looked like a tempting place to stop.

"Just run to over there and you can rest, it's fine, you're doing great. Listen to your body. Give up."

But that voice inside grew fainter with every step, and the feeling of absolute bliss after a run was done and I was standing in the shower fueled me.

Three kilometers grew to four which grew to six. Times started creeping down, and I found myself starting to long for the next time I'd get out for my next workout.

Last week I did my first straight ten kilometers and I'm down to just over half an hour on six kilometers, as well as having gone down to 81 kilos.

Running is the single best thing that's ever happened to me.

>>39098619
I can't imagine running stoned. Does the exertion feel worse or better?

Went to Decathlon (UK Sports store) and had a quick gait analysis.

They recommended me some Asics or Kalenji. Are kalenji a known brand?

I saw many people talk about asics in the last run thread, but Kalenji?

>>39099094
Good job man

Slightly related, but I'll still ask because you guys probably have more knowledge/experience with regards to sportclubs than the average gymgoers.

Does anyone here have any experience coaching sports? I'm thinking of taking a coaching course for my basketball club and becoming an (assistant) coach, since I want to stay involved even though I can't play (shin splints).
Is it any fun? Can it be combined with uni/work? Is it difficult?
Any other thoughts, advice, or experiences?

>>39099094
Nice

>>39099237
Kalenji is just Decathlon's house brand, which is why you never see anyone talking about them.

>>39099094
Can't people just run? Why does it always have to be some dramatic triumph of the will with you people

>>39099569
So i should go for the asics?

>>39099553
I kinda help coach my unis athletics club. If the players want to learn and you feel like you know what you are doing it can be nice.
Everyone at my uni sucks but some want to learn and it's nice to see them improve and thank you for it.

>>39099593
Is it easy to combine with uni/work? Also, is it difficult?
Any advice?

>>39099616
In my scenario yes because I train and coach at the same time, so it takes up 0% extra time for me especially as I'm only teaching the basics.

Your scenario is different though, best advice is take the courses, get the qualifications and then get an assistants job and move up from there. You already seem to know what you are doing, also ask any coaches you know for tips and advice.

>>39099652
Thanks m8, really appreciate it.

>tfw can't run or even lift cause of flu and light fever
it sucks

Hey can I just ask you guys what it's like being on /fit/. Do you guys just keep to this thread and not pay the rest of /fit/ any mind, cause you all are kind of on your own little planet here. Just curious.

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>>39099717

>focus on your breathing, then your form
Switch these two's position. Form is absoute essential since it helps you conserve more energy while reducing injuries.

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>GOTTA GO FAST!!!

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>>39097972

>tfw it is going to be 90 degrees in Oklahoma tomorrow

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>>39098394
thing is, I haven't found out proper size 46 shoes that give overpronation support AND have spikes to give better surface grip during winter runs.

from what I remember, last two winters we have warmer spring days, with February often having +5 during noon and than -10 during nights, meaning snow on roads would melt during day and freeze during nights, resulting in various snow covered roads becoming ice-roads where you had no chance of running.

my steps would be like half shorter with barely moving faster than walking on those icy paths... winter fuck yeah?

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>>39099094
>In short, I wanted to die.

Ha! I run AND I want to die.

good if running helped you, but I cay say from personal experience that once you start getting more and more addicted to it, you will tolerating ever greater distances, until your body becomes accustomed to the exercise, resulting in smaller rewards via endorphins; the runners high becomes harder and harder to reach.

whats a good one mile time? the lowest i was able to get it was 8 minutes. i eat like shit and have constant sleeping problems so i wonder how fast i could go if i went into it fully rested.

a year ago i wouldnt have dreamed of doing a mile without stopping so its cool, but i also find it hard to get past one mile at this point. how do i improve my endurance?

>>39100100
Sub 5

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>>39100100
repeating 100s; and the answer is repetition
keep doing that one mile if you must until you become good at it
then start doing two miles until you become good at it

repetition leads to improvement

if running is too rigorous, go for long walks.
even if they are long slow walks. keep repeating them until you can do long fast walks. fast walks can be quite effective cardio, maybe 70-90% of the efficiency of running. (some slow jogging can be less demanding than really fast walking)

>>39100100

Slow down to run farther. You need 3 30 minute cardio sessions per week at the absolute minimum to get cardio gains.

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helo fwamile daly remindar to stey hidhratted luv u soooo muhch tanks bye

>>39100100
>how do i improve my endurance?

By slowing down. If you can run one 8:00 mile, you can go out and run 5 at a 11:00 pace right this very moment.

The pace you do 1 mile time trials at and the pace you actually train at are two entirely different things. Most runners only hit their 1 mile race pace for a few minutes at a time when they do hard VO2max interval work (and 1 mile races, of course).

>>39099227
Hard to say, it like with everything on weed, there is just more of it. So you might feel more tired at times.
Gives great control over the body though. Also your body somehow uses oxygen better right after smoking, but I think everyone knows about that.

Anyone feel massive lung pain when running in the cold?

I just avoid it entirely... but then i end up not running 6 months out of the year.

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>>39100213
yeah, when it gets -15C.
air dryness can make it real brutal.
then again, it can be brutal even in warmer temp if the air is really dry.

>>39100248
>>39100213
>Live in the area with high humidity
> -15C feels like -40C

shit I d rather take the dryness probably

Ran my first marathon yesterday. 3:58 . Got a lot of advice from these threads

>>39097481
i havent done cardio in 2 years (used to swim) and my triathlon friend convinced me to do some 10km running event with him and i had 55:12 time

is it any good for non training person ? im wondering if i have predispositions to pick up running

the issue is that i hate doing things i suck at

im 21 180cm 64 kg if its any help

who /huntingland/ here?

My trail takes me through several popular deer hunting spots. last year they found a rifle round in the wall of a nearby fieldhouse.

Time for the blaze orange an irrational worrying, lads.

>>39100387

Grats brah.

>>39100387
Share your best tips that you learnt?

I have one year to train for my first marathon.

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>>39100431
well Lord Skeletor, your BMI might be very optimal for running, and for a firsttimer 55min/10km sounds very good.
if you enjoy running, go for it.

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>tfw threw up halfway through my usual sunday 6k

>>39100665
well, did you lick it back in or did you just let all those gains escape your body?

>>39100387
Congrats. I'm kinda of scared to run one, I've done a couple of halfs but i don't 20+ miles seems crazy

>>39097481
How hard is it to run a marathon in a shit time, say 5 hours?
>3k in 12 min
>used to play soccer so running for 90 mins has been pretty standard
>have completed 25k marches with about 30kg of equipment (wasn't that bad)

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>>39100956

Do a beginner marathon program and you can finish one. This is the basic Hal Higdon schedule.

>>39097481
I have a blister filled with blood just beneath my toes. I used to plasters for about a week to speed up the recovery process.

Is it alright to run and work out with it or should I rather wait for the blister to fully heal ?

>>39101007

Let it heal and get better socks before you start running again. I use wrightsocks, but any 2 layer running sock should work.

>>39100989
what does cross mean?
also only one 20 miler (+30km)... feels kinda weird?

might work though, with all those mid week runs stacking up

>>39101025
I have been using the socks for years. I think I got it during footy practice. The ground is less than optimal to run on

>>39101026

Crosstrain. Like biking or some other non-running cardio.

That's the most basic beginner plan. If it looks too easy, check out the intermediate ones. Can google Hal Higdon marathon for tons more info.

Wearing my new Asics GEL-Pulse 8 as I sit at my desk and round the house.

Hope to try and break them in before I take them for a run tonight.

>>39100457
It sucks that I have to do this on my own fucking land. We already got lots of trespassers and poachers arrested. I was actually shot once and spent weeks in the hospital. What is it about "No trespassing" do thes fuckers not get?

>>39099569
>Can't people just run? Why does it always have to be some dramatic triumph of the will with you people
Desu most people who weren't athletic as children and teenagers will find running to be liberating when they realize how much better they will feel when they're more active

>>39101581
Know a guy at work. He was a nice guy, but a bit short-tempered, bit whiny.

Recently his gf dumped him. He's decided to stick it to her. Has cut all unhealthy foods out of his life, running everyday. Eating healthy.

His mood is better, he's happier overall and his really committed to that running, and sticking it to the bitch that dumped him.

He's actually inspired quite a few people to join him in running at work sometimes.

>>39100535
about 6 months into it someone in these threads mentioned how much cycling helped with recovery. i started riding my bike a day after my long runs and it helped a shit ton with recovery.

also, heart rate monitoring. when you're running, you can go back and look at what your heart rate was at whatever mile. once you know where you can hold your HR during your running, youll know how hard you can push.

>>39100535
>>39101951
oh, also your flexibility...foam rollers are your best friend. also make sure atleast once a week you have a session where you do a bunch of static stretching after a warmup.

>>39101951
You're welcome

Finished my first marathon today! Didn't do as well as wanted, my goal was 3:45 or at least 4 hours, got 4:06. That last 10k was brutal. Pretty sure I was too nervous and just started out too fast, my half marathon split was dramatically better than the 2nd half.

>>39098901
According to Scooby at least the only danger of running and lifting at the same time is overtraining, obviously don't do leg day and an LSD back to back or anything. As long as you eat enough you should be fine.

>>39102342
Did you reenergise as you went round?

Last 10k being tough suggests you hit a bit of a wall.

>>39102478
Yeah, I had enough sugar, had 3 gel things and a bunch of gatorade. I wasn't really tired, it was just my legs were dead at that point. All my muscles were on fire and I had to stop and walk around mile 22. i could barely walk afterwards haha.

>>39102532
What distance were you typically running in training?

>>39101581
You're right. Running is kind of the adults entrry into fitness. You don't need to join a team or buy a bunch of equipment, you just get some shoes and clothes and you can run. Running just happens to he the most convenient so thats what people turn to.

>>39100178
are you the same person from /thin/, or just an admirer?

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pump

Hope to do my 5k route today in my new Asics. Hoping to get under 40mins this time!

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>Run a 40 minute Fartlek today
>Eat an entire pizza straight after it

Fuck my life.

>>39104003
Wow you're good
I started running last month but I can't do more than 15 minutes before throwing up. that's usually a mile for me, am I going to fast, any tips.

Any running technique tips as well as I'm retarded I have no idea how to put one foot in front of the other?

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>>39104072
Are you just running or sticking to a program? I've heard good things about 'Couch to 5k' (c25k) so I did that when I started. And it worked well for me.

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why is he running?

>>39102585
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51138/Marathon-Novice-2-Training-Program

I did this training program.

>>39104932
Thanks mate.

Just did my 5k run, which includes a couple of steep hills and managed it under 40mins. Happy with that :D

>>39105066
Although, my ankles are a little painful. I guess that will improve over time.

If I run 3 5k's a week will my 1.5 miles time improve?

I have 1 month

>>39105296
yes

>>39102342

Grats on the finish. Sounds like you learned a lot and should pace the next one better.

>>39105296

Over doing nothing? Yes. You should run more than that though.

>>39105066
Nice! Yeah, hills are a great workout.

>>39105745
I want to try and find new routes, but want to make sure that the hill still stays at the end of my route. As you say, great work out.

Might need to save the changed route for when I go to a 10k

>>39097504
23 yrs old is most peoples physical prime, why the fuck would you be too old

>>39102342
Congratulations! Good job on an impressive feat.

>>39097481
>focus on your breathing, then your form, then on building distance
>focus on form

What does this mean? Like when I run one leg is more tired than the other-- is that bad form?

I've just been building distance famalam, don't know what bad form looks or feels like other than hearing your feet bang into the pavement like gunshots.

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>live out in the sticks
>sand and gravel makes up all the roads
My calves are completely numb after just a 1.5 mile jog.

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>>39106454
>one leg is more tired than the other

>>39106513
I don't know what to tell you holmes, my right leg seems less tired than my left. I don't know if it's because of an existing strength imbalance or weird form or what. I guess I feel it especially in the calf area.

>>39106513
he could be overstriding with one leg because of cartilage/form issues.

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>>39097613
Run faster.

>>39098551
>>Land on the middle of your feet

I thought you were suppose to prevent over extension by landing on your metatarsal.

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>>39098619

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>>39104894

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I know this question is probably posted in every thread but what should I wear in colder weather?

Is it necessary to change out of shorts since legs don't get cold as easily?

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>first good storm of the winter
>went on rain run
it's been too long

>>39107739
If you're comfortable in the first 8 minutes you're wearing too much clothing.

>>39099227
Whenever I run stoned I just put on some appropriate music (usually eurobeat) and I feel like a machine. I'd highly recommend it.

Any tips on breathing? I feel like my breathing technique is bad and needs work cos im always out of breath

>>39107739
From my experience I usually wear shorts until it gets too cold, I find that warming up your torso is more important. Still keep in mind you want to pritect your groin, I remeber a coupld runs where my legs were fine but my dick wasn't feeling too happy by the end.

>>39099227
I don't do it often but exertion almost doesn't register in a way. It's hard to explain - logically I know I'm getting tired and at some point I'll be near my limit but physically, it doesn't register and there's no sense of 'I'm need to push myself or I'll give up' - you just keep going and time distorts itself.

>>39100665
That's just the weakness leaving you.....you're getting stronger, anon

>>39099717
Yeah I pretty much ignore the rest of fit.
>Ran 20km today
Feels goodman

>no matter how much time I spend working on form I still get back pain
>kill me

>>39109339
sorry anon :(

My fellow running anons I have a question, I hurt my ankle pretty bad, might be a fracture. Thing is I dont want to lose any cardio gains while it heals, what can I do to keep reaching that VO2max, but not put much pressure on Le ankle?

>>39097504
lol Im 31 and managed to push my time from 36 to 24 minutes this year.
Also my dick started working again hmmm yaaaa

>>39109376
Swimming, water-walking, cycling, walking, rowing(machine unless you own a boat)... just some kind of cardio that stresses lungs and heart

>>39109339
Planks, leg raises, squats and deadlifts. Do them

>>39106246
>Running a marathon slower than Oprah Winfrey is an impressive feat

>>39111183
Oprah finishex in 4:29.

4:06 < 4:29

Try trolling other threads about you squatting 4plates on your first day at the gym. Finishing a marathon is an impressive feat.

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>>39111183
>>39111229
I didn't know Oprah ran a marathon. Not bad for 40.

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>>39111257
...is she thicc?

>>39111229
Just wondering now if finishing a marathon is an impressive feat at what distance does finishing stop being impressive?

Is finishing a 10K impressive?
Is finishing a 5K impressive?
Is finishing 800 impressive>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wn85Ge22FQ

Always listening to this while running senpai

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>>39111295
these kind of questions never have good answers, which is why running is more about chasing personal goals. you should always race against yourself, try to beat your previous achievements. no point in comparing yourself against dedicated ultra runners or against Olympic elite racers.
running is a hobby and a lifestyle, you do it for your own benefit, it not just about hitting this or that number, but a way of life.

I've got a slight fever and the flu. Should I run today or just wait it out?

>>39111295
Id say it starts at 10K
However if you go from not being able to do 800 to being able to do 5K Ill be impressed

>>39111332
nah, you may cause damage to your heart, which kinda sucks

try walking, it may help and still keeps your leg muscles active.

Is two cardio's a week good enough?

>>39111523
maybe, better than the average hambeast for sure, but if you want high cardiovascular capacity, you need more.

than again if those two cardios are 2 x 21km at race speed, then it should be enough ;^)

>>39098448
Are you me? It starts out as a dull pain and escalates into the sharp pain you describe within 1-2km. After that I have to walk for a few mins. After that its not too bad, but the walk definitely ruins my pace. Really sucks since running is the only consistent exercise I enjoy.

>>39109339
Strengthen your glutes.

Want to improve my 5k time, and then when my time is decent, swap to a 10k.

Is running 5k daily too much?

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>tfw got a 5k pr during a 10k race.

>>39111490
I'm cycling anyway (Dutchfag), so that's ok. Thanks though m8

Posted this in the other running thread but it got archived before i got an answer

>start running with work shoes
>realize it's bad for my back and get 30 dollar sneakers from walmart
>they're terrible and my right ankles get fucked up before i realize it's the shoes

What are some good, $50-100 shoes that are good for running on concrete?

>>39112175
ASICS GT2000 or something similar. Pricier usually means more durable and higher drop.

>>39112262
>Higher drop

What does that mean?

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>>39112364
basically how much "buffer" the shoe has

heavier runners require bigger drop, whereas people who want to race fast usually choose minimal drop. better cushioned shoes have higher drop

say front has 10mm cushion, back has 20mm cushion, the drop would in that shoe be 10mm

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>>39112364
also found this

>>39112432
>>39112449
Thanks!

>>39111295
The reason people generally use marathons as goal is because
>A marathon is the first race you can't comfortably do in practice, regardless of your training
>It's the first race where energy needs become critical
A half marathon is impressive for sure, but a marathon is notable for being so hard on your body compared to shorter races.

>>39112483
this

>>39112483
So if a healthy 30 year old man does a marathon in 7 hours it's impressive?

>>39112511
most races have a 6 hour limit

then again, walking 42km is still quite a nice feat, it requires a lot of energy and can be quite taxing on your feet

Bout to run bois
Gunna do it

>>39102342
I'm this guy, oh Jesus fuck I'm sore. Can barely even walk haha.

>>39112262
>ASICS GT2000

I'll be on the lookout then. Thanks.

>>39111295
That's subjective and based upon personal values. I think even 5k is impressive since I see many struggle. I have witnessed many 70+ seniors complete it when they never done any physical activity in their lives while having many debilitating diseases. In the first half-marathon I ran in had a 68 year old lady who had MS and lupus and completed it in 2:15.

How important is a good pair of shoes, do I need to spend tons of money if I dont wanna fuck anything up? Or will a cheap set from sport chek cut it for 5k runs a few times a week.

>>39113290
I think the fact that 70+ seniors completing it "when they never done any physical activity in their lives while having many debilitating diseases"

Shows that finishing isn't an accomplishment because a bunch of old lazy and nearly dead fucks can do it

I've been doing 5ks for a while now and I can seem to get my time to sub 30 minutes. I have issues just getting below 40 minutes. Am I just not trying hard enough or is there something im missing?

Note: I run outside and there's hills. I'm running downhill just as much as I'm running up hill though

>>39113574
Try it on a flat surface one of these days. Is there a school with a track near you?

Can I get some motivation? I've been getting in shape primarily for a job I was going for, but I just found out I wasn't getting it and lost most of my motivation to continue.

>>39113414
Few 5ks, it's fine. Longer distances and a good pair is good idea.
>>39113574
You can get to sub30mins, but not sub 40, what?

>>39112175
You should be able to find some good deals on Saucony Triumph ISO 2 now that version 3 is out. I recently got a pair for $85 and wore them for the first time during an urban half marathon yesterday. My legs felt great the whole race and my only soreness today is DOMS.

>>39097504
you can absolutely smash that time, 23 isn't even old you tit

So I'm well on my way to losing fat. Currently weigh 210 lbs and eating 1700 cals. I do calisthenics 3 days a week and run 4 days a week on my cross trainer. I run for 30 mins and average 2 miles per session. I'm feeling thinner which is good. Is this a good start? Today is supposed to be calisthenics day only but I'm going to start doing cardio everyday for the same amount of time 30 mins. In two weeks of doing this I'll do cardio for an hour everyday like I used to. Is this a good plan?

None of these sound healthy at all and you don't even end up aesthetic. I'm aghast.

>>39097481
I had to take a break from running for a few weeks after the left side of my left foot gradually developed a shooting pain while walking. Its gone now but I'm not sure if it was the 10k I ran that started it since it didn't start till like 2 days after.
Any ideas on what it could have been?
I'm gonna start again tomorrow since it's been a week since I felt any sort of pain there. Wish anon luck.

>>39113751
oh, sorry. I meant I CAN'T seem to get my time to sub 30

>>39113632
No tracks near here and the nearest school is too far for me to go and even then, it doesn't have a track. The road I run on is flat for the most part but there's a 1km stretch of hill in the middle which I run both up and down on.

>>39097481

>started lifting this summer
>most of size gains is legs
>started c25k yesterday, legs chafe like never before

how do I get around this?

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>>39114378
>cardio
>not healthy

>>39097714
When your foot pronates, your knee twists. When your hips sag, your knee twists. Try building foot and lower leg strength, hip and core strength. You'll be more stable and less prone to injury.

That's my off the cuff guess at what's going on.

>>39109376
Biking is good since you don't carry your weight on your legs, if you're well enough. Still uses the ankle a bit.

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I can't break the 30 minute limit when running a 5k on 1% incline

at around 24 minutes everything inside me is like "FUCK THIS SHIT" and that's when I quit

I can run a 5k in 28 minutes when the incline is 0%, but with 1% everything is fucked...

why is it so much more difficult? I mean the difference is only 1%....

>>39114347
Ramping it up slowly is certainly wise, especially if you don't have a history of exercising. Are you planning to go running outside at all? Personally, I love running through the woods.

>>39113414
Running shoes are important, but that's not the same as having to spend a lot of money. Main thing is that they fit well and give as much support and cushioning as you need. A good way to save some money is to look for last years models (usually, the main thing that changes is the colour).

>>39097481
I'm slowly easing back into running after overdoing it this summer (too much time on my hands an no bicycle around). I didn't know an Achilles tendon could hurt that much :-/

I just hope I'll be smarter this time.

>>39113420
So you are a special snowflake?

>>39115419
Stop running on a treadmill.

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>tfw today is week 9 day 1 of couch 2 5k

>>39116428
I can't, it's cold outside and I have no idea what to wear so I don't end up in hospital (it happened last year)

>>39114461

Vaseline or lubricant that women buy for chafing bras etc.

>>39116947
>m...m...muh cold!
Learn to layer.

>>39116413
?
I just think you have to run fast to be impressive

Is squatting a thousand times with just the bar impressive? No. So why should running a 5K slow be impressive?

>>39117074
>layer

what?

>>39117115
Because it's a test of endurance and not many people are capable of that endurance

Newfag to cardio, will a 2 mile jog hurt my performance with leg day the day after?

>>39117365
Dress in multiple layers of clothing?

>>39116087
I do plan on running outside soon. I just don't want to weigh too much and end up hammering my knee joints. I think I'll approach it slow and slowly work towards 30 mins on cross trainer and 30 mins outside

>>39117365
Are you from fucking Africa? How come you don't know what layering is?

>>39117115
For fucks sake man, enough of your hysterical insecurity. No one is required to live up to your arbitrary standards. Not to mention your rants are getting boring.
Give it a rest already.

Do you guys take your phone/wallet when running? Currently only take my keys but don't like leaving the house without phone/wallet

>>39118051
I use my phone for music and couch 2 5k app. And bring my keys as well. Can't run without music now

>>39118076
do you just have your phone in your pocket? or one of those unwieldy arm bands?

>>39118051
Phone sometimes. Wallet no. The pocket in my shorts is big enough to carry my keys and a credit card and drivers license. I never actually bring the cards, and if I did I'd have to put them in a ziplock cuz my shorts get drenched in sweat.

>>39117991
>>39118014
that's what I did the last time I went to hospital, I was soaking wet inside the "layer" and this fucked me up when I stopped running

>>39118085
My pocket. It doesn't really move back and forth so it doesn't bother me

And it's a note 4.

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>>39099094
>>39100060
I ran my first marathon a couple of weeks ago.and finished under 4 hours

I still want to die

Never had nipple chafing so I guess I'm not fast or nipple hair ftw?

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MY IT BAND IS FUCKED! HELP!

Amigos, I don't mean to derail the thread, but I'm at the end of my rope. Literally less than a mile into my run, I experience IT band pain. This is after four months of stretching, strengthening, and foam rolling every other day.

The pain has diminished, but it's still there.

Does anyone have experience with this shitty injury? Please, help me beat this.

>>39118247
I think my chafing has to do with cold weather, sweat, and an ill fitting shirt that's made of bad material. My nips get hard, cuz the cold, sweat weighs down the shirt, it's loose so it keeps rubbing against me.

I just got a new shirt, actually branded as a "running shirt" instead of just a moisture wicking shirt. I'll find out tonight if my nips will chafe.

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>tfw finished week 9 day 1

only did 2.75 miles in 30 mins

should i do week 9, 2 weeks in a row until sub 30 or move on to 10k?

>>39119996

I'd move on to 10k. You'll get faster as you put more miles in per week anyway as a noob.

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>tfw shin splints two weeks before a race

>>39118051
Why take a wallet or even a phone? I want to get as few things sweaty as possible. Sometimes I'll take my ipod with my on long runs so I don't get bored, but I have a few shorts with a pocket on the center of the back where it won't bounce around.

>>39118051
I take my wallet, phone and keys.
The phone is for the C25K app and music.
The keys are self explanatory.
The wallet is there to stop the keys from rustling(i pop the keys into the wallet)

All these things i keep in a fanny pack.

>>39119996
Keep with the program. When you finish it, keep running 30 minutes every other day for a month. You'll get better at it. Anon please focus, this is not about ego. Let that shit at home. Running gains come slow, but they come as long as you are consistent. You overdo once, and it's a week rest and gains go to the trash. I made that mistake a couple of years ago believe me don't be as stupid as I was. Form>>>>>>>>>>>>pace

>>39097481
>30 year old ex smoker out of shape desk jockey recovering from knee surgery
>ran my first 5k on 2 weeks of training
>35 minutes
>literally 2 weeks earlier I couldn't run for more than 2 minutes.

Aiming to get my time down as much as I can for the next 5k. But is it ever plausible for me to consider the 5 minute mile or should I give up and focus on distance and maybe aim for a 8k/10k/half?

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I've been running almost entirely without foresight or real goals, just "get better, run faster and longer", and feeling it out, and I'm new here, so apologies if something I ask is obvious or trivial
first, is it normal to need a longish time to recover after particularly long runs? I'm talking on the order of days, I first felt it when I jumped mileage from ~6 to 10 miles, and had dull hamstring pain for several days/couldn't replicate the distance for about a week, and I ran 15 yesterday jumping from around 12, and had a similar ache today
second, and maybe this is stupid/useless to ask, but what should I be aiming for/what do you all have as targets? choose a marathon a while away and just feel it out, try to push speed instead of distance for something like a half marathon, ?

No one talks to me or acknowledges my existence when I run...

>>39121554
do you want to talk to people or do you want to run
get a running buddy if you want to make conversation, but you could be using that oxygen for breathing

I have an PT test for Army ROTC coming up. I'm running about 16:45-17 minute two mile (for the reccord i graduated high school with a 13 minute 1 mile so this is actually progress for me). Any tricks to shaving off that last minute, or keeping up endurance for the last mile. Does pre-workout or any other supplements help?

>>39121610
I'm just interested in running but it would be nice if people like at least nodded at me. I don't wanna initiate conversation but they could at least smile at me..I sometimes even look at them hoping they would stare back

>>39121624
my friend with asthma ran a 6:30 mile after eating a pot brownie. before he hadn't gone sub 7:30
>>39121529
As someone who ran 4 miles in 22 minutes, took 2 days off, then ran 12 miles (about 4 miles longer than I have trained at since I've started training again 2.5 months ago), I can say the 12 miles left me aching more than the 4 miles did, in spite of it having been much less intense of a workout.

>>39097726
bloody nipples m8

>>39121629
I don't really get reactions from anyone but other runners, but I run with earbuds in
maybe smile at them, or give them a wave/nod or something? the sad truth is pretty much everyone's self-obsessed and doesn't spend much time thinking about other people, and to them you're a transient utterly undistinguished entity who's gone from their lives after you pass by, so "common courtesy" doesn't really exist, especially if you're on a path/low-pop road/somewhere where they aren't societally shamed into it
>>39121624
drink a lot of light-roast coffee 20-30 minutes before your run

>>39121624
Cadidiot

I always forget how much easier and faster my runs are coming out of a humid summer.

Come the first humid run next year I'll have lost all my humidity cardio gains and adaptations, and feel like I've never run a day in my life.

>>39121694
>people don't give me enough attention because they're self-obsessed

Started running, and find my biggest problem is nausea. I think it's mostly caused by swallowing air.

Any idea what I can do other than practise more?

>>39122786
How long since you started running?
If its only a week or so then just keep at it and it will get much better.
You just need to get your body used to it is all.

>>39121694
most people on long runs zone out after a while
>>39122786
try to fight your instinctive faggotry of swallowing with every breath

>>39122811
Yeah, only a few weeks.
>>39122821
Mostly try to breath through my nose.

Guess I'll just keep going until I git gud. Thanks sempais.

>>39111946
Ive been doing 5x weekly trainings with a minimum of 5k(3x5 2x8-16) this was my first time training this much in my life and I would recomend making sure your running correctly so you dont end up in pain

>>39117882
Do you really believe this a 5k is nothing and every remotely activ person can do it given enough time

>>39118156
Dont stop running then :^)

>>39121629
Most people don't run so that they can talk during it

>>39122926
So far I've only run twice. After the first run on Wednesday I was very sore and pained.

Sundays run, I had some a very slight shin splint in my right leg and some soreness in the bottom of my ribs.

Both I put down to being a "I'm not used to this". Once I get over these first few runs, I should be more able to go regularly. But I guess build up to every day.

Going again tomorrow, so from a 3 day gap to a 2 day gap. Then should be able to go every other day and then probably try it out.

>>39118156
>soaking wet
Are you really this idiotic? Are tge trolls starting to invade these threads? Remove layers as you warm up.

>>39121529
Is that skyrim

>>39117115
>squatting a thousand times with just the bar
That does sound impressive desu. In a
guiness book of world records kinda way.

>>39118156
Stop wearing cotton and use a breathable outer

>>39113668
u can do it anon

>>39118718
How's your obliques and glute medius?

>>39121624
Oh hey, we're in a similar situation. I also had that time a few weeks ago. Can do 15:20 now. I've been doing intervals twice a week and a long run every week.

>>39118051
I only take my watch, minimal keys and if I need to keep a card for tram eg I take it, but don't regularly

>>39118051
Currently run with an Armband that has space for my phone and a front door key. But wondering about getting a fanny pack or mini back pack to carry them in.

And use Bluetooth headphones, not wired.

>>39115419
Run outside.

>>39118051
Keys and sansa clip only. People are too tied to their phones. Spending more time texting than lifting at the gym, stop their runs to check msgs, then drop their phone on pavement. You don't need it. And what are you going to buy on your run that you need your wallet?

>>39118156
And this is why moisture wicking base layers are important. We're you wearing cotton or something? Also, shed layers, unzip stuff as you heat up so sweat can evaporate and you don't overheat so much.

>>39124194
Phone for me is playing music and tracking my run.

Only time I stop to mess with it was when I switched my headphones off instead of skipping the track, but that only took 30 second to sort out