What you were doing when you realized girls like ottermode because

>>39018470

I have the exact stats of most attractive. I like a dyel unless I wear a tight shirt.

I'm trying to push into the 16 inch arm range at least.

>>39018527

Look like*

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>lifting for girls

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>>39018470

>>39018561
>I like to put myself on a constantly strict diet and exhausting workout routine that has no health benefit so I can lift heavy things in specific positions

I don't give a fuck what girls like

How is shoulder size measured in that pic?
Is it circumference, or just width?

>>39018470
>ottermode because it signals tallness?
What kind of broscience is this?
Do you mean being fit with a low bf makes you look taller as opposed to being fat or athletic built?

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>Lifting for girls
If you want to get laid with Jamal's cum can just get abs and youll be """""built""""" enough for those holes

4/10 not even read ur post

>>39018846

it has to be circumference because having more than 25" width is impossible

>>39018879
Yeah you're right
Should've thought more, thanks

girls like charm and confidence
make her laugh, be grounded and secure in yourself
and she'll be swooning over you

muscles don't attract girls
muscles give guys confidence
confidence attracts girls

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>>39018802
Yeah haha, im ww2 those soldiers died just for the girls cuz
>I like to shot nazis for no health benefit in diferent ways
Stupid fucking idiot

>>39018871

yes

when girls see photos they automatically think about the height of the guys

that's why they can see someone ottermode but when they see irl that he is a manlet they lose interest, and that's why when they see a bearmode they think he is short unless they see irl that he is 6'5" and go lustfully insane

>>39018909
Actually, that's a perfect analogy. You got me.

Here's how attraction works, and how it differs between the sexes:

Men see a woman, and for every good feature she has, they add points. If she has enough points she is considered 'attractive'.

Women see a man and deduct points for everything he lacks. So if you're trying to get a woman, you better be fucking flawless because they'll leave you in the dirt as soon as someone better comes along.

>>39018911
This is high levels of autism mate, no offence
Did you dig through some backwoods "research center" data to find this or was it all just made up?

>>39018872
First and foremost I lift for myself, I want to look fucking great.

Secondly I lift for women, as I want to fuck many of them with as little effort on my part as possible. i.e fucking them without all that relationshit bullshit. I'm just sick and tired of the bullshit that women spew, so the best way to deal with it is fucking many with as little bullshit/commitment as possible, and bodybuilding gets you a great step closer to that.

>>39018802
>that has no health benefit
Eating healthy and exercising have no health benefits, OK m8

>>39018994
chloroform too

>>39018802
>no health benefit
u wot m8

>>39018470
Can I be o-ottermode even with shoulders only 18.5 inches wide? I'm 6'2"

>>39019105
Lulz Enjoi ur No Gainz auswitch mode version of danny de vito

>>39018977

laugh all you want but you know it's true

i'm creating fucking knowledge here

>>39019186
Im not laughing
I dont "know" its true

Creating knowledge, what does that even mean?
Are you making stuff up?

You havent really posted anything except a picture of dubious origin and some statements that seem contradictory
Check your data and present it for scrutiny, faggot

>>39019225

it's my hypothesis

i wrote it so people could give discussion and see if it can become a theory and then start asking my friends for empirical data

for example, giving photos to girls and asking what they thought were the heights of the guys in the photos

you lack the scientific mind it seems, everything can be handy

>>39019171
stay mad manlet

>>39019317
Ah, youre doing the christian method of doing science i see
Create a hypothesis, no need for evidence and skip to presenting it as hard fact

Good for you anon

>>39019317
Show them photos of dicks and ask for measurements as well.

Maybe the hypothesis can also highlight their complete lack of spatial ability and fixation on their imaginations rather than realistic expectations.

Like, show them an ottermode black man and his dick, whose measurements will by the average be far smaller and shorter in both instances than they would imagine.

>>39018470
>2016
>Centering your life around females and what THEY want
You've already lost.

>>39018973
>leave you in the dirt

Google branch swinging

>>39019434

if i wanted unrealistic expectations i would ask for your lifts numbers

>>39018470
>tfw when attractive
Finally made it bros

>>39018802
>that has no health benefit
You're fucking retarded

>>39018470
>mfw Very Attractive
Wew

Thats not how height works op

being skinny and toned is for women

>>39018994
>lifting to look good for girls
I personally enjoy constantly hitting PRs. Then again, I don't really focus on "aesthetics" anymore. As a natty, aesthetic lifting won't get you shredded enough for it to be any more noticeable than a healthy strength trainee in a girl's eyes.

>lifting for grills

lel

>>39018470
> "attractive" according to this body type image
> also a specky manlet

Fuck life brehs

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>>39021854
>unironically falling for the manlet meme

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>>39018470

Am I middle mode?

>>39018470
>it signals tallness
>it signals shortness

The fuck are you talking about? Muscularity doesn't signal anything about height, your height does.

>>39018470
How tall the guy on the picture is supposed to be?

5'11''?

Lets just ignore the fact that "ottermode" looks DYEL in clothes. No one will ever be able to tell you have a decent body unless your shirtless.

Also its entirely dependent on genetics and your own muscle insertions. You need to have 9/10 chest, ab, and clavicle inserts to pull it off. Most guys simply don't have that. Most people have something off about there physique. Abs looks weird, waist too wide, chest gap, clavicles a bit short, ect.

Everyone has something. Most people can never look like an Abercrombie model. Simply because they don't have that body type.

95% of guys will look much better with more mass.

>>39021926
You look like me and I'm a twink dyel so no

>>39021978
This senpai

>>39021989

But, the middle one IS a twink DYEL

>>39018872
>name 2 things you can offer a man except your vagina
Holy shit
I am a very bitter man because I am too afraid of rejection after the last couple of breakups and I found this motivational as fuck

>>39018561
who is this semon demon?

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>>39018470
women lie, a lot. There is no way to see something like that by asking them.

>biceps 13-14
lol right

what were you doing when you realized girls are individual human beings who have a very complex and varied sense of attraction and that many things they are drawn to have nothing to do with physical appearance??

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>>39022404

that's objectively false, you just have to see how many fetishes women have compared to men

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>>39018470

>>39018470
Idk short strongman/powerlifter types really get me going

>>39021882
>you are automatically less respected by other men for being short
>women like taller men more
> glasses look worse than noglasses, and laser eye surgery (which I want for reasons aside from aesthetics) is expensive

>>39018906
Being this beta. Sure confidence will help. But if you look like shit manlet and have the same personality as someone that is aesthetic and tall as fuck who do you think they're gonna pick. Women are always thinking of how is his man juice gonna stack against chad.

That picture is absolutely retarded and is obviously made by people who have no idea what any of that shit looks like irl.
The very fact that it doesn't take height into account but goes and throws random measurements and weights around is proof that it was made by a retard.

Scientifically proven that a mans shoulder to waist ratio is a huge factor in attraction, the bane of a mans sexual attraction is if he has narrow ass shoulders and a huge waist

>>39022427
The difference is that 90% of the women's fetishes are focused on herself.

At any rate females are WAY more subjective about what makes a guy attractive to them.

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wtvr dude im beating it to loli anyway

>fags still fuck 3D grills

lmfao kys

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>>39018470
>if you are short and have a strong v-taper you look goofy
>>39018802
>routine that has no health benefit
1/10, dumbest shit i've read all day

why this shitty thread is still going

>>39018802
>no health benefit
You went full fkn retard now didn't ya bubba
>inb4 twas pretending to be retard for lulz
no, no you weren't

0/10 THREAD
YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD

>>39018470
but what if... what if... just bear with me on this one.
What if I don't need to
>signal tallness
Because I am already tall in real life?

>>39022352
>womens chart peaks at 2.5/10 and practically ends at 7.5/10
whats the sample size of the women doing the rating? its mind boggling that women see the majority of men well below average and practically no men as well above average.

>>39021926
M E G A
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>>39022352

Women are not objective at all. One reason why men dominate non-medical STEM fields.

>>39022249
A trans gender boy

>>39018470
these conversations are fucking pointless

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>>39022404
Yeah guys who are 6'+ and over 200lbs with low bodyfat, wide clavicles, a slim waist, a 2d:4d ratio less than 1, flared zygos, forward grown maxilla and mandible, protruded lateral orbital rims, positive canthal tilt, positive eyebrow tilt, NW0 hairline, straight white teeth, North Atlantid phenotype and clear skin would do just as well as a <5' guy whos over 200lbs and over 30% bodyfat with narrow clavicles, a wide waist, 2d:4d >1, invisible zygos, recessed maxilla and mandible and lateral orbital rims, negative canthal and eyebrow tilts, NW7 hairline, crooked yellow teeth, currycel phenotype and cystic acne because girls all have different preferences and don't care about looks

I decided a long time ago to embrace my dwarven heritage.

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REMINDER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFnJMPQow7A

>>39025853
whose name is??

When we first got together my gf told me she liked skinny men, then when I got bigger she told me she actually preferred it because it makes her feel safe and small.

Girls don't know what the FUCK they want, just remember, what a woman says she wants, what she thinks she wants and what she actually wants are three different things.

>>39022404
yes, sexuality, and female sexuality in particular, is complex. but, its not hard to spot trends, which is what we're discussing. no one is saying "EVERY woman likes X".

>>39024634
women are picky as fuck in regards to physical attraction, my friend

average guys have to make up for it through other factors like confidence and money.

>>39018802
>I like to put myself on a constantly strict diet and exhausting workout routine that has no health benefit so I can lift heavy things in specific positions

It's called self-respect. Respect for me and my body

>has no health benefit

Look at me, I am a complete idiot.

>>39026256
>Girls don't know what the FUCK they want, just remember, what a woman says she wants, what she thinks she wants and what she actually wants are three different things.
exactly,

it drives me crazy when guys take advice from girls about what they find attractive. just fucking observe their actions and that's all you need

>>39026239
>Video made using micrisoft sam by some 13 year old red piller

yeah not gonna watch this one buddy

>tfw i like bear mode

>signals tallness

That's bullshit. Women like thin men because they don't like fat and, they don't like really fit men because it make them feel insecure about themselves. If you wanna attract girls then just be on a permacut.

>>39018470
>tfw "most attractive"
>actually ugly
nice meme

>>39026324
>hurr this video might disagree with my current preconceived worldview so I'll say a 13 year old made it and not watch it
nice cope

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>>39025853
NAME

>>39018470
>no height in diagram

Useless

>>39026410
GET FUCKING KEKED /r9k/ BOY!

>Microsoft sam voice
>Cherry picked arguments
>/b/ tier trolling

Nope not copeing.

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>>39026522
nice cope boyo

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>>39026687
Nice cherry picking bro only took you like 30 minutes to find 1 pic

>>39026298
You're half right.
It's not that women are picky about looks, it's just that looks don't do as much for us.
Picture a hot 10/10 fashion model, but with a crippling autistic personality. He is never going to get fucked. Now a 10/10 autistic girl? I imagine she would get poked at least once.

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>>39026924
>Picture a hot 10/10 fashion model, but with a crippling autistic personality. He is never going to get fucked.

>>39018872
It must be right boob left boob, no?

>>39026924
Nup that is bullshit. One of my friends in high school was a literal 10/10. 6'2, 90kg jacked at 18. 10/10 aesthetic face.

He had limited / no social skills e.g for talking to girls etc, few friends, quite intelligent, possible autism spectrum.

But girls literally just come searching for him to talk to him and ask him out even from other grades and girls that he doesn't even know who they are.

>>39018470
>claiming I'm attractive because of those stats

Pft jokes on you and your dumb picture I'm actually hideous.

>>39018470
>and that women doesn't like fridge mode because it signals shortness?

What if I'm full on fridge mode thicc and juicy but also a full foot taller than the girl in question? Would I still be short in her eyes?

Dumb heightposter

>>39018802
t. health minister of belgium

>>39026212
Did you just describe Jason Blaha?

none of that matters if you're ugly.

>>39021701
That's what he said, it has no real life application and is just an illusion for photos.

>>39021968
Yes it does, being stocky and wide makes you look "shorter" in photos.

So does this mean as me being part of the 6'5" masterrace I can choose whatever mode I want as long as I'm not fat?

>>39022404
Biological instincts drive them to find the best possible mate they can, based on their perceived genetics, they don't give a fuck about the rest of the men.

Men have lower standards, they would like the top of the scale, but are often more than happy to talk near the top, and accept taking average or slightly below average. The female brain hates picking betas, unless the beta is actually an Alpha who looks beta, but controls everyone in the room when he wants to.

The only value men see in women is either ignoring the fact that they are a woman (i.e. shes my mother or coworker or doctor etc), or almost purely in the value of their body primarily, and nurturing. Women do base their attraction partially on attraction, but largely on status and position and dominance. I've seen males who are manlets with teenage facial hair and a lot of money and little respect for a woman that doesn't suck them dry. I don't think I've ever seen a guy with a fat disgusting blue-haired dyke even if she's Putin's daughter or a rothchild. Dirt poor uneducated women with a good face and a set of tits have no problem attracting the top men though.

>>39027924
>Biological instincts drive
An appeal to nature can only take you so far. Humans are complex animals. our higher brain functions and all the things it brings like society, knowledge and so forth can help to override natural instinct.

Cultural influence is also a factor in attraction

>>39018802
i lift because lifting heavy shit, getting strong and looking good is fun

fuck off faggot