>lift for 8 years >be vegan for 5 >current bench PR

>>38887043
Lift for 8 fucking years? I've been lifting for 2 months, started out at 75 lb bench, which is now at 155 lb today. Does going vegan fuck with your body that badly?

>>38887094
Yes

>>38887094
Vegan lifters and vegetarian lifters often need to take supplements if they want to make progress in the gym.

Says a lot about their lifestyle.

doesnt he squat like less than 2pl8 too?

>>38887043
he used to bench alot more im pretty sure but he got sick so he had to stop lifting

>>38887101
[spoiler]Is my progress good atleast?[/spoiler]

He doesn't look bad, used to look really good when he competed.

If he doesn't have a reason to go much heavier, why should he? Seriously.

>>38887134
you're fine.

Let me just give you some advice though. My biggest hurdle in the bench was the form.

Your form in bench and OHP have to be P E R F E C T to make consistent progress at heavier weight because you have less strength potential than your squat and deadlift.

>>38887134
Yes. Important thing for bench improvement is you need to fucking eat. Keep at a surplus and lots of protons and lifts will always get better. If you stall, eat more than you were before.

Ive gotten so sick i lost 15 pnds and still came back in a month. This vegan shit is so dumb. If you are his height and cant bench over 2p8 you might as well not lift at all. Seriously 8 years for basically being in terrible shape. Ive been lifting for a year and a half again and everything i do is for more weight from basically not stepping in a gym for 4 years.

>>38887141

Depends what you mean by "heavier weight." There probably is a point at which form is going to be the limiting factor, but that point is around 4 plate, at least. I bench babbymode 325 and my form is far from perfect, and there are guys in my gym that can retard up way more.

For most people volume (lack of it, specifically) is what's holding p progress, not form.

>>38887110
im not vegan , but i am vegetarian and dont take any supplements except preworkout when im tired from work. Doing that doesnt limit progress in the gym at all, I will say i have to eat alot more during the day since i switched off of meat. isnt he around 6'4 too so that does make it a little harder to bench heavy weight since he is moving it alot greater distances than the short armed people. I say this because im also tall and can only do 225 around 8 times, never actually maxed out

>>38887127
kek hes been sick like ten times since starting the channel

>>38887094
Those are fucking noob gains you pleb. You aren't going to just increasing your strength linearly like that.

>>38887140
holy fuck kys if you ever thought this jaundice monster looked "good"

>>38887276

wow are you jealous, super BBC with beautiful white women

most of his advice his pretty on point too

>>38887127
It's because not only does he have subpar nutrition but he's a sickly pale gymcel cuck that probably plays wow all day whenever he's not at the gym

>>38887300
his gf is a 3/10 and he looks awful and his advice is terrible kys

>>38887323

she pure breed euro, can't hate really hate on it really, and he made her grow her hair out

>>38887339
so shes a 3.2/10? yeh looks great you fucking loser

>>38887110
Bullshit, quit eating meat this January and lifts have gone from

Bench 105kg to 120kg
Squat 160kg to 182.5kg
Deadlift 215kg to 250kg

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>>38887276
He looked pretty good a few years ago mate

>>38887043
His bench is 185 m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykl5SbA6nhk

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>>38887043
He needs yo be called out on his delusions around the end of October

>>38887455
Fucking newfags don't know about lighting, pump and angles.

Maybe lift for a year or two before commenting here again eh?

>>38887591
>that head shape and hairline

JUST

>>38887590
In a recent video he said it was 216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBnYeUpIP-Y

>>38887591
He's at most adding 10lbs a week so he's super delusional

I've never seen a sickly pale black person before now

>>38887590
Fucking hilarious, i'm going for 185 5x5 next week.

I don't know why you would live a "fit" life style for SO long and some how not have at least a 2 pl8 bench.

>>38887400
no reason to lie on the internet, anon-kun

>>38887648
>lighting
He looks the same in standard lighting

https://youtu.be/npOb6mYc8Ww?t=6m11s

>>38887709
Your right I dont have a reason to lie.

There is no difference getting 200g of protein from plant and dairy to eating 200g of protein from chicken.

Only people who font make gains are fuck bois who don't eat properly and don't train consistently.

>>38887094
>lifting for 2 months, started out at 75 lb bench, which is now at 155 lb today
You are either doing it with shit form or fat as fuck

>>38887691
>>38887691

Not black

>>38887591
I don't keep up with his vids.
8 years to reach 216 is still fucking pitiful.

>>38887800
meant to reply to >>38887716

>>38887043
I've been lifting for eight months and i bench 220lbs. Vegans when will they learn.

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>>38887043
Don't forget that this faggot is also a cyclist. It's pretty hard to gain muscle when a lot of your calories go towards cardio

>>38887816
it shouldn't matter.
if you aren't an idiot you can account for the calories lost.

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>>38887272
Honestly if it take you another 7 years and several months to get from 155 to 225 bench than you might as well kill yourself/quit.

>>38887800
We agree there, his lifts are total shit

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>>38887716
>dat spine

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>>38887822
But it does matter. Maybe he rather spend calories on cycling than on weight lifting.

If you're calling someone weak at least assess why they're weak and be fair. If he considers himself a cyclist who weight lifts on the side for fun why are you going to compared your stats against him as if he's serious about his strength as you are...

That's like a truck shitting on a sports car for not being able to haul a thousand pound load

>>38887943
>If you're calling someone weak at least assess why they're weak and be fair

You expect a lot from the autists in /fit/

>>38887043
First time i touched a barbell was mid January of this year.

I have been pissed at myself for failing 225x5 (only got it for 3 reps) until reading this.

Holy shit i feel so much better about myself

>>38888037
>>38887943
vg please go
Even if you spent 3 hours a day cycling, you still have nothing to show for 8 years.
And how can you weight lift on the side when you make money doing weightlifting videos?

>>38888469
Not VG but I'm willing to debate a fatfuck on fit anyway.

>you still have nothing to show for 8 years.

Look at his pics. That's enough to show that he lifts.

>And how can you weight lift on the side when you make money doing weightlifting videos?

What does that even mean? You genuinely sound like a retard. He's a dedicated YouTuber who makes a living off YouTube videos His whole genre is diet and fitness. Ofc he's going to make lifting videos if it meant it would put a couple bucks in his pocket. Wouldn't you?

>that logic tho

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>>38887043
So I'm pretty sure you guys are going to mindlessly hate on me, but I'll bite.
I've been vegan since january, and I've been lifting heavy since the end of may. I've gained about 35 lbs (most of which is lean mass), and have made considerable strength gains.
I followed a 6 day push-pull split and did 1-3 hours of intense cycling every second day. I have not taken any supplements or protein powders (with the exception of creatine monohydrate),
and consume about 4k calories a day from whole food sources with macros somewhere along the lines of 50/30/20. Top pic was me in april, bottom two are about a week ago.

>tfw year of lifting and just achived 2 plate bench

FUCK YEAH

Now I have five plate squat in the bag, 4 plate deadlift in the bag and now bench.

>>38889330
>5 plate sqwat
>4 plate dl
absolute madman

>>38889092
>2000kal from carbs
Fuck man that must be hard

>>38889092
routine?

>>38888469
He's only made 5 videos showing his workout

>>38889771
>literally called virgin GAINS

>>38889431
Not really, man.
Most of my carbs come from fruits seeing as they don't really fill you up, and the rest come from beans and veggies.

>>38889495
Push:
3x10 shoulder press
3x10 lateral raise
3x10 incline db press
3x10 weighted dips

Pull:
3x10 weighted pull ups
3x8 weighted chins
3x8 rows
3x12 rear delt ros
3x12 rear delt flyes

My chest is pretty underdeveloped, though.

>>38887339
>having such low standards
His gf is 2/10

>>38889092

>vegan diet
>no supplements
>50/30/20

this is not possible what the fuck are you talking about

>>38889877
oh my god what the fuck is that program
>no legs
when you eventually turn into a chicken will you be able to eat the eggs you'll lay as a vegan?

>>38889976
As long as you get the same macros (and have multiple sources of protein to fill in the holes in their AA profiles), what makes a vegan diet inferior

Supplements are a meme. If you have a good diet you have no need for 99% of them

What's wrong with 50c/30f/20p?

>>38889092
>lifting heavy since the end of may
>I've gained about 35 lbs (most of which is lean mass)

35lbs of lean mass in 4 months?

Yea you can never be strong on a vegan diet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN83vRGQ4pE

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>>38889092
>I've gained about 35 lbs (most of which is lean mass)

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>>38890000
I can't train legs during the summer season because I'm a cyclist as previously mentioned,
but I'm really excited to throw some 5x5 squats into my new strength routine when the snow hits the ground.

Out of curiosity I did check my 1rm lowbar squat morning a few weeks ago, and it sits at 295. My whole family has big legs, too.

Pic related, my legs as of 30 seconds ago.
As you can see, 90% of my fat went there

>>38890066
Impressive, but he basically made that event/lift up, and is also roiding.

>>38890126
fair enough, I just realised we both got pretty good quads then

>>38890057
My guess is 25-30.
I still know that's a questionable amount

To be fair, my gains have slowed over the past few weeks and I haven't really put on much mass. Plus, the golden one claims he put on 40lbs of muscle, so I figure I'm on track for that

>>38890138
everyone else is roiding,
if the vegan diet is inferior why hasn't any of the many meat eating strongmans able to beat one vegan strongmans record

>>38887043
Started at bar and in a little over a year its at 175 for 5. If 215 is his 1rep max thats sad. Serves the cunt right for being a vegan fucktard that talks mad shit about other lifters.

>>38887400
>>38887755
>b-but muh anecdotal evidence

jack shit, there are vitamins/minerals that you can only get from eating meat. That is why the other anon said that virgins need some kind f supplement

>>38890188
I don't know, maybe the strongman competition pool just isn't as large as other specialties.

That being said, one gifted man doesn't really "prove" that the vegan diet is superior.

>>38890324
>there are vitamins/minerals that you can only get from eating meat.
There are not.
Please don't bring up b12 or vitamin d like a retard.
And non-essential amino acids like serine are created by our bodies.

For someone calling himself "gains" he sure seems pretty damn committed to not gaining. I've met vegan lifters who still manage to far outlift this clown, so I'm pretty sure he just sucks at life in general.

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>>38887127
Fun fact: vegans and vegetarians get sick more often than their meat-eating counterparts.

>current bench PR is 215lb
Wow, I was better than this guy as a fat fuck in high school, lmao.

>>38890755
>Please don't bring up b12

>There are no vitamins you can only get from meat
>Please don't bring up the only vitamin you can only get from meat

lmao, fucking vegtards

>>38887141
P E R F E C T form on the bench takes years to learn. Many top level lifters dont even have flawless form. Dont scare the noobs away with this bullshit.

>>38887591
Jesus he's as bad as Blaha.

>"Just wait a month mang I'll have a 6pl8 deadlift."
>claims to have been training for decades and his lifts are barely out of what you'd expect from a late intermediate

>>38887043
is this achievable natty

>>38891403
absolutely

>>38889330
>5pl Squat
>4pl DL
S A V A G E

>>38887755

>all protein is the same!
>biological value does not matter!

Fucking vegans, even for 4chan standards you guys are legit retarded

>>38890324
I find it absolutely incredible how confidently people spout this shit when a 10 minute google search proves it completely wrong. You're an embarassment as a human being and you need to improve the way you conduct yourself.

http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/plant

>>38891462
Yeah, and the absoprtion of plant proteins has been shown to be negligibly different you fucking dense cunt. You probably also think you need 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight as well top fucking kek.

>>38887094
>he thinks 75 to 155 is harder than 155 to 175

>>38887094
Yes, even if you get your protein it still has less biological value than animal protein, even if you get iron its harder to use than the iron you have on meat.
All results in poor quality blood cells and substandard muscle growth.
Not to mention all those vegetables fermenting in your bowels are not good for you.

>>38890157
More like a bullshit amount

>>38890157
That's an insane amount. You're like the fat bitch on tumblr that claimed she could run a mile faster than the WR. If you're going to troll at least be believable and say you gained something like 10lbs LBM in 4 months, or say you started off skelly at the very least.

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>>38891309
you get b12 from unfiltered water, so do animals which is why we give them b12 laced food.

>>38887400

> Deadlift 215kg to 250kg

xDDDDD

>>38890498

On the other hand, one weak guy like OP posted doesn't prove a vegan diet is inferior

>>38889092
no dude youve gained 8 pounds of muscle and 27 pounds of fat. ill say 15 and thats insanely optimistic. youve still gained more than half that weight in fat

>>38891270

>make up something
>call it a fact

>>38891608
unfiltered water if it has dead bugs or animal matter in it. in cows b12 is produced in one of their stomachs from one of the nutrients in grass. we lace their food with it because cows generally arent fed grass anymore. other than cows idk specifically, but Im sure there are similar processes.

>>38891721

>in cows b12 is produced in one of their stomachs from one of the nutrients in grass

The only thing that produces vitamin B12 is bacteria. They make it from cobalt. The bacteria that produce B12 also exists in humans, but further down in the colon where it isn't absorbed. Living in close proximity with shit is the natural way to get vitamin B12.

considering how shit his diet is, yes, it's impressive.

>>38891746

His diet is pretty healthy, he just doesn't get nearly enough calories

>>38887043
Is he a mutt?

>>38891309

You get B12 from dairy and eggs and yeast so the only meat statement is still bullshit deluxe.

>>38890324

I'd be amazed if there was a mineral you could only get from meat. How did it get there?

lol vegans

>>38887043
Hey man Vegan bro is 6'3 and all the manlets hating on him shit themselves when they saw him in real life. srs not trole

>>38891658
Dyel.

>>38891462
I'm not a vegan, half my protein comes from dairy the half veg, take no supplements.

Bioavailability of soy is 60, and rice 74 chicken is only 79 it's not a huge difference. Eggs and milk have the highest.

>>38890324
No.

>>38887229
What's with being 6'4, not eating meat and making retarded excuses for progressing 4 times slower than everyone else?

>>38891816
Doesn't he follow 80/10/10?

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>>38891738
I let my dog shit because im a lazy cunt, I didnt know it had advantages to live near my dogs shits

>>38887110
Natty lifters often need to take steroids in order to get to 120kg 8% bf
Says a lot about their lifestyle

>>38892887
pls be b8

>>38891564
Honestly I have no idea how it's possible, either.

I'm not entirely sure if this would impact my weight gain, but last january I was a chubbyfat with bizzare levels of natural strength, then I cut until I was first pic in my collage. I obviously lost a lot of muscle on this process, and I did do a fair bit of hard labour before. I'm thinking muscle memory may have played a part...

>>38887400
>Deadlift 215kg to 250kg
within 8 months? hard to believe tb h

>>38892048

>eggs and milk have the highest

this is why you dont go vegan

>>38891539
>literally all of this is wrong
>especially veggies fermenting

>>38891539
I'm not even vegan, as I consider the whole move dumb, but mate, you're wrong on all counts.
Soy, for an example, has very high quality protein, not at all worse in an way than animal protein. And it's just this one plant, there are more that are complete sources of protein.
Iron? You're probably thinking of spinach, where the iron is strongly bound to a specific protein, but otherwise, it is freely available from chlorophyll.
Vegetables fermenting is much less bad than meat fermenting, which is the source of killer farts.
>>38894538
Yep.

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>>38887591
>stop riding your bike as much since you are in a new place
>start eating more junk because your "vegan" girlfriend is just lazy shit and eats things that doesn't require preparation
>sit on your ass at home for the first time in years
>strength went a bit up
>go to the gym
>bench 205 for 4 reps
>be happy about it
>go on the internet
>claim it was 215 for 5 reps
>start calculating in your head how much stronger you would be if your strength would go up like that every day
<delusion kicks in>
>start talking about 300 lbs bench in a month

we haven't seen him benching since his 175lbs for 3 reps

>>38894145
I find DL easy, i had hit 230kg bulk before, but 215 was my current max after cut.

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>Vegan lifters and vegetarian lifters often need to take supplements if they want to make progress in the gym

vegan is vegetarian short pronounced. They're the same thing. duh

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>>38892887
Jesus Christ

I'm just gonna pretend this is b8 and then sign off and go the rest of my life with the comfort of not knowing if I was wrong

>>38890188
>if the vegan diet is inferior why hasn't any of the many meat eating strongmans able to beat one vegan strongmans record
for Christ's sake
555kg for 10m isn't a sodding world record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6DAbD467ww

>>38890498
>I don't know, maybe the strongman competition pool just isn't as large as other specialties.
I can think of at least a dozen people with a stronger yoke walk than him
It's a very good walk, but by no means is it a world record. I'd hesitate to call it world class.

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>>38891525
this exactly, many get bogged at that point, took me a while to get out

75-155 comes easily

>>38887043
Post a pic of your body OP. Usually it is lifting noobs that shit on others for not being big enough after XY amount of time because they don't realize that goals differ.

A vegetarian or vegan diet is not per definition worse than an omnivore one. In fact eating meat has been linked to many different chronic illnesses but I guess you numbnuts will just ignore that anyway.

>>38895408
His arms are so disproportionate.

>>38892887
dude what the fuck is wrong with you
shape up you degenerate fuck

>>38891838
vegans don't eat those things
I dunno if they can even have yeast, do they consider bacteria animals?

>>38887716
Is it just me, or does he have snap city dead lift form?

>>38887686
That is bullshit, is he really putting .5 lb plates on the fucking bar or is he also counting the clips? Fucking liar.

>>38895408
Is that Christian bale

>>38896353
Yeast are not bacteria, they are single celled fungi, and yes vegans can eat them (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_%28biology%29). I think the majority of vegans are more concerned with capacity of the organism to suffer, than on taxonomy

>>38889330

Just wondering, did you start doing bench presses a while after you started deadlifts and squats?

>>38896404
Yes he does

>>38895408
>>sit on your ass at home for the first time in years
Accurate post except this part
>>38896471
What? No, it's Chris Evans

Hes training to look good naked and building a mind muscle connection. Please fuck off.

>>38891823
His mom is white and his dad is black, yes

The rest of his family is white if you look at his Christmas videos

>>38887043
>shitpost with this many responses...
>people knowing so little about nutrition and diet

>>38898723
what did he do wrong? ass too high?

>>38887943
>>38887816
Ive been lifting a little over a year
I bench 275 and run a 17:50 5k
Fuck off

>>38887101
No*

*VG, however, might be doing it wrong. In a recent video he talked about adding half a fucking teaspoon of oil in the pan with his tofu like it would dwarf the biggest cheat day anyone ever had.

About 95% of my meals leave out animal products. For economic, ethical and health reasons. About once a month I eat a steak. Sometimes I don't care if there's butter in my bread or shit like that. I'm making batter progress, than I have the last 4 years, although nothing will beat the first.

>>38890324
Do your homework. The only problem might be D and B12 and they are easily substituted. You just like eating dead animals, and that's okay.

>>38887300
No, just no.

I like VG and his research is solid, but even his autistic ass would be ashamed of this post.

>>38898883
No amount of "mind muscle connection" can justify not being able to bench 2 plates.

Of course he doesn't have to be powerlifter strong, but 2 plates is something random gym bros who don't even know what the fuck they're doing can put up. VG is weaker and smaller than than a fair share of ordinary gym goers.

>>38889330
Nice. I anticipate a 2pl8x5 bench by the end of the year. I'm at 90x5 kg now and have three more month. Feels good.

>>38898957
That and that he's lifting with his lower back arched like a retard and barely using his legs

>>38891608
I drink tap water occasionally at night from my bathroom so I dont wake anyone that sleeping. So this is good for me?

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>215 bench
>biceps bigger than his head

Dafuq. My friend has those biceps but he has a 340 bench. fucking curlbros. I can do 225 7 times and my biceps are nowhere near that

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I hate that mongrel, mulatto, clickbait making nigger so much

>>38887094
up to 155 you go in no time. 225 is a different animal. Most people it takes at least an year to get there. Still, a year isn't 8 years, lol.

>>38899141
He has higher insertion points for his biceps

They look bigger but he's still weak as fuck

>>38894145
>>38887400
It's not hard to believe. He probably weighs 250kg himself.
The only strong vegans are fat vegans. It's a scientifically proven fact. Scientifically meaning with my buddies when drinking beer.

>>38887043
he has such a feminine face

>>38887043
Yeah it's kind of pathetic. He doesn't look terrible but I would literally kill myself if I lifted, watched everything I ate, etc for close to a decade and looked the same as a skinnyfat 19 year old who started lifting in senior year.

>>38899601
Low test vegan

So low test he's dating Harry Potter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hOuEzuoHM

I missed the fucking boat on this video from seven months ago. did he ever explain this?

>>38887043
Kek I can ohp more than this fucc nigga benches.

>>38887043
>vegan
>mix
Its always lightskins being mentally challenged.
Can't even call him my nigga.

>>38899965
As in how they got back together? The dude is a cuck and made videos about his spirituality to try to get her back.

And it worked. He moved to Belgium to live with her for a few months and now they're moving back to Toronto permanently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miRmmB7T33M
>having your girlfriend tell you you've made no gains

>>38887043
>lift for 6 months in freshman year of high school
>bench max goes from 185 to 265
>tfw life fuckered up and I didn't get to stick with it
I'd be the fuckin gigadwarf, god of manlets by now, but noooooo.

>>38887716
His legs are stick thin.

Hamstrings? not even once.

>>38887400
liar

>>38887816
he's not a cyclist by choice though. he has never had a real job and can't afford a car, that's why he bikes.

>>38889092
>35 lbs (most of which is lean mass)
Jesus christ how are you that fucking stupid.

>>38900191
yeah I saw his bullshit video about his mushroom trip discovering empathy spiritual enlightenment, just wondering if he ever explained in a video the circumstances of them getting back together? at first I thought maybe she got hacked, since she broke up with him over text while 'busy doing chores', which is one cold-blooded-cunt thing to do.

I had no idea they were broken up. am just about to watch the new one. I know I shouldn't care about this but she reminds me of my ex so I can't look away. I was looking on her channel and around the time she dumped him she made videos called "letting go", "unconditional love", and the one that rages me the most:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5RyBtQnqV0

(in the breakup video VG states she broke up with him because he's "not spiritual enough", just for the anons who are sensible enough to not give a shit about this) /blog

>>38900272
He uses that he got run over by a car and had several knee surgeries as an excuse

>>38900294
He also lives in the hipster as fuck Toronto

>>38889092
good progress anon

>>38887272
Ive been lifting for 2 years and i can bench 2 plates 3 sets of 6-8 at 13% bodyfat, 5'7. Cant beat the meat.

>>38898871
>Accurate post except this part
but this is true. When he was still in canada he was constantly going out with his dog, he was riding his bike or stationary bike and now when he's with bill gates they sit on their asses and eat all the time. just look at his gf, she's pretty chubby and has nothing related with fitness. I bet she doesn't even go to the gym.

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2 plate is not impressive

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