Is lifting natty a waste of time? Roids gains are the only way

>>38884843
If you have the money, don't care about the health risk or the fact that you will have to use more or less your entire life to maintain, have no ethics (if pursuing sport) and Tbh have quite a lack of self-respect, persistence and faith in your own ability to succeed, then by all means, go ahead.

>>38884883

What a melt

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Welcome to /fit/

>>38884843
Tru that.

You'll make more gains with roids in 4 months than somebody who has been lifting with perfect everything for 10 years.

Not roiding is for cucks

>>38884843
numbers?

>>38884906
>>38884843
yeah, but honestly don't do it till you're at least 26.

my friend who's 20 is on some serious shit..he trains like 7 days a week, the gains are incredible but last month he was in the hospital for chest pains..

>>38884968
my neighbor in college who was blatantly on roids had the same problem

>>38884843

your photo is achievable natty

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>>38884843
>Not training with a musket to kick the French and Indians out and take the Ohio river valley for yourself

>>38884843
>Is lifting natty a waste of time?
if your goal is big muscles with low body fat, then yes, you'll never get there natty. it just won't happen. you can be lean with a little bit of muscle, or big and strong with some chub, but big and lean is impossible for the vast majority of people.

>>38884883

How noble. You probably stare people down while they are enjoying a beer or cocktail.

>>38885003
my buddy has pushed it to the limit. I've spotted him benching 3pl8 and 4pl8 squats 4-5 a week. the amount of shit needed to recover from that is ridiculous.

also his aggression level is retarded. snaps over the littlest thing. whenever im out at a bar with him, he always ends up getting slapped or starting drama with a girl. "you're a fucking pig" is what a girl said one time when he devoured two huge plates of food at the bar

>>38885045
my photo is me mate. tahts the problem

>>38884883
Ok cool thanks, I will.

Should I cruise on test if I can only bench 100lbs and OHP 70lbs? Wouldn't that make everything go a lot faster?

>>38885189
yup

>>38884843
>Is lifting natty a waste of time?

Depends on your goal
Nah who am I kidding, whether you want to look good or to be the strongest motherfucker you will need roids.

>>38884968
Yea I know someone 20 heart problems been hospitalized a few months lost all his gains Lmaoing at him rn dumbass

lose some weight

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>>38884843

>>38884843
does everyone on /fit/ have shitty genetics ? or do you all not work hard enough

>>38885080
How defeatist. You should try before giving up and sacrificing your retirement fund and 20 years of your life for #sickgainzbrah

>>38884843
That's disgusting he needs to pull his fucking shorts up

>>38884883
>have no ethics
It's pretty much a given that everyone roids in sport. It's just part of the equation. They still need to work their ass off.

>>38884843
Jesus i swear people on /fit/ have body dysmorphia. You look great compared to what the average man looks like. Getting any bigger is going to start looking unnatural.

>>38886610
They need to work their asses off because everyone roids. Taking roids just ended up raising the cut off point.

>>38885839
> [citation needed]

>>38885135
What problem? You look good, nice arms and shoulders. No homo.

>>38884843
Do what you want, but I think you look good mate

>>38886611
This

Do a small cut tho