/OWG/ Olympic Weightlifting General

>>38832073
I focused on my snatch too much and added some kilos to my max, but now my clean is just shit. What should I do to regroove my clean?

I can't seem to catch it properly, or even rack it properly for FS. I know I fucked up /owg/ no bully..

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>>38832103
well first you have to analyze your tech and see what you're doing wrong

then fix it with increasing workload of clean

>>38832109
pls post more webms anon

>>38832125
I think I've just gotten lazy with my catch. I was thinking of doing some hang cleans instead of from the floor.

no vid soz, will post one soon.

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>>38832134
ok but i dont have too many

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>>38832144
if it works for you then fine but i dont really believe in variations

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>trying out oly lifts now that i hit 1/2/3/4
>can clean/jerk okay
>can't snatch
Good videos for overhead squat balance/mobility? Also. is the bar supposed to hit your pelvis as you thrust your hips in the snatch?

>>38832239
you shouldnt be kicking the bar out in snatch

and it's prob your upper back, shoulders and ankles that need more mobility

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>>38832073
General question:

Anyone have issues randomly with hook grip?

Been Oly lifting for about 1.25 years, no general mobility issues that I or my last two coaches noticed. And now have randomly developed a mild tendonitis at the base of my right thumb that I'm currently resting on until away. Regular grip of barbell when cleaning/snatching does not aggravate it - only when hooking the grip.

Does this happen to anyone else? Is it just maybe a random thing that you guys run in to from time to time? Or is there maybe a specific thing I'm doing that this is a consequence of?

>pic unrelated, just there to grab your attention

Oi
Juan is lifting today, 77B http://www.teamusa.org/usa-weightlifting/LIVE

>long arms with long forearms
>long legs with long femurs
>all around weak as piss
>zero natural strength

is there any point if you don't have any talent?

>upper back almost stronger than lower back
anyone else know this feel?
my cleans are stalling because I'm dying on the first pull lmao

Comp in precisely 1 week. Tested snatch and clean and jerk this week. Total went up 7kg. There is only 1 other lad in my weight class there

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fuckin mg end me

>>38833437
who still lifts in that gym? logan, richard, glenn sound familiar to you? anyone making gains at all or just lifting the same weights for the past 10 years?

>>38833437
Do you have to be this fast to do the lifts?

>>38833437
what that person at the end say to you?

shit lifts this week lads. tech felt all kinds of off. i also got my flu shot yesterday, so that threw off my mojo. Here's hoping to a better next week

>>38833437
You have to be 18 to browse this board.

>>38833475
logans there, he's in ireland for school again, hes also going university internationals or whatever. he's a bit of twink a twink but he seems to be doing fine. i met him when he came back in the summer.

i think glenn got popped for clen or just gave up or something, i never met the guy.

i've never heard of richard.

as for whether anybody is makin gains... just look at me. i progress at a snails pace???

>>38833498
he said that clean was heavy enough since i was failing to jerk 75 after cleaning it

>i can snatch 70
>cant jerk it consistently

>>38832730
Mark?

>>38833437
>>38833498

He probably told him to stop dropping the pussy ass weights. This is how equipment gets fucked up and its annoying to hear weights dropped only to see a dyel instead of someone lifting a motivating and respectable amount of weight.

>>38833608
Definitely not Mark. One of my "team mates" is mark though

>>38832109
>>38832125
Trappy returns.

>>38833739
mark haaksman??????????

>>38833437
Camera angle makes it hard to tell whether your triple extension is a hump or not.

>>38833754
No. Am Canadian BTW

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>>38833751
nah someone else

>>38833437
Don't tell me this frumpy looking fucker is still at it. If this is new, YOU STILL LACK ANY AMOUNT OF ATHLETICISM! How do you even?

How big is powerlifting in Maryland? Would like to get into it here but don't know anything about the scene except for having C&J form down and working on catching snatch low

>>38833795
ye me too youre in Bc or alberta arent you? you were posting before about a comp on the 1st.

im going to a comp on the 1st too here in ontadio

>>38833796
Interesting that he seems to be using a nylon belt. He's still a roid using fucker though.

>>38833824
Alberta. How's your comp looking?

>>38833830
>Interesting that he seems to be using a nylon belt

yeah that's so interesting right. ilya never used a nylon belt b4 u saw this webm

retard

>>38832073
Any Floridians here? New to the sport and not sure what gym I should go to/ what I should be looking for.

>>38834483
Where in Florida? I think there's someone from Miami here and Danny Camargo has a gym in Fl, he's considered pretty decent for an american

>>38834525
Camargo is considered a decent coach*

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Hi guys, how is the begining of the season going? Do you have weight/total goals?

I recently tested maxes after spending summer fixing technique, doing lot of accessories exercices. I've been cutting slowly to go down to 58 cat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzzF4ZQ_Gok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYaeIty9hso

>>38834525
In Gainesville atm m8. Not a student so can't join UF club. Am looking all around Fl as I'm on the move alot these days.

Is the snatch hard to learn? Been thinking of incorporating olympic lifts into my wildcard days

>>38832125

That training hall looks comfy as fuck

>>38834624
If you already know the movements, I can vouch for lifetime fitness, they have platforms and usually only half the oly bars are bent

Rest week almost over. Feeling very antsy. Hoping for 105/125 by the end of this next 'cycle'. Still don't have a proper place to lift.

>>38833830
everybody uses roids at this level. you're fooling yourself if you think differently

>>38833817
>powerlifting

this is not powerlifting

>>38834608
u r hot and thicc

pls b my gf

>>38832694
Ur...
Ur me...

Just do it for fun and health if you can't compete

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hehe and u said i couldnt be athletic because im a fat PL????? take this u twinks, you can probably cant push press 60kg xD

>>38835672
>push press
>xD

typical powerlifter

>>38832239
Yes and no. As the other guy said, your hips shouldn't be kicking the bar out away from your body - the last point it should touch is your hips, then it should travel straight up about a milimetre away from your chest.

As for your mobility, do a few behind the neck presses with a snatch grip with JUST THE BAR if you can over the course of a few sessions. That was enough for me to get into a decent position for the overhead squat.

>>38835672
......................

>>38835351
>fun and health
>health

should have mentioned I am also glass man with a million injuries

>>38834608
what are weights?

>>38835351
post lifts

betting 10$ that I'm a fuckton weaker than you

>>38835965
62/72 kg at 59kg bodyweight if you wonder

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>>38834608
>"females" with short hair

>>38834644
It is if you do it as a wildcard. If not, it's basically the same principle as the clean but you rack it overhead rather than on your shoulders. Quite a few youtube vids out there on how exactly that works in practice.

>>38836062
hmm who could this be

>>38832694
Does that mean that I could do well with short legs and long back?

>>38834608
First comp next week. Just tested this week and managed 97/122. Aiming for 100/125 at the comp. As for goals I'd love 110 and 135 by new years.

>>38836327
squats of any kind should be very easy for you, which makes for an advantage in both the clean and the snatch

>>38835672

fake and gay

JESUS FUCK why is my mobility so shit?

I can't overhead squat. I can't even get in a good position without leaning forward and/or getting nerve compressions. I can C&J just fine but can't snatch.

Come to think of it my C&J is probably shit too. The coach said I have significant buttwink when squatting and that my front knee isn't aligned properly when jerking.

God damn it how can something so effortless-looking be so god damn hard?

>>38836938
Have you tried any stretching and doing mobility work? Nobody has the right mobility for oly lifting off the bat.

>>38837062

Yeah a few times. Coach reccomends three times a week 30minutes. Would that be enough?

>>38837081
>>38837062

Also how long would it take to become flexible enough? Is it up to the individual?

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THE CHINESE DREAM TEAM IS DEAD.

weightlifting is a dying sport.

no ilya ilin, no lu xiaojun, no liao hui, no klokov anymore
plus its lost momentum in the trend. less and less people seem to care about it now

>>38833437
That looked fucking terrible.

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>>38833845
worried that ill snatch more than i cj
my jerk technique is just god awful.

i also lift 7PM, not used to lifting that late at all.
i dont have any expectations. ill just go and see how it goes.

>>38838058
you have a good form in the pull. your body doesn't understand how to catch the bar at the bottom of the squat though. thats normal, a lot of people don't. i would suggest doing power snatches only for heavy weights and working with a low weight trying to catch the bar at the bottom of the squat. because right now you're just power snatching and trying to squat down with the bar after already catching it

>>38834060

imagine a 5 year old not paying attention and walking into that blender and getting hooked by one of those meat cylinders

what do you think would happen

>>38838144
what are you even talking about

>>38838116
i have le nasty habit of always powering my snatches, and not going into a squat.

my issue in catching snatches low is rigidity. mainly in my back, my hips are usually too rigid, which keeps me from hitting the bottom.

there's not much wrong with catching the weight high and riding it down anyway. when it gets heavy, once it gets heavy, you'll catch it low if you try.

>>38838278
in a proper full snatch, you should catch the bar below parallel if not at the very bottom. very few good lifters will ride it down. if you keep doing that you're going to find yourself hitting a plateau. its much easier to hit a plateau with poor technique than good technique

do oly lifters do any direct shoulder work? OHP and that kind of thing?

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Me Asian. Me lu xiaojun. Me Chinese love long time weifhtlifting. Me set world record next year

>>38838389
i think you're an idiot. you don't catch a 20kg snatch rock bottom.

>>38838560
yes but it's not meant to directly assist the lifts, because it usually wont.

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Hit 4kgs over my best meet cnj from April for a joocy double this week . m8s. Beard PR too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKtYManhoROx-kE57ZvySvq5lMXCnIUnxcbYG00/

>>38833437
Fucking hell I can hardly believe you're still at it, made progress somehow

>>38838650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p0kYllB4EY
just trying to help out. good luck with your power snatch-overhead squats.

>>38839489
blagoy blagoev more like ur mom blew my blagoy

>>38838597
you're 20+ years old 85kg totaling 260kg man. keep doing what you're doing but dont take it too seriously

>>38839489
have you nevsr seen someone do a submaximal snatch before?

at maximla weights its caught rock bottom, meaning WRs and other big lifts. thats normal.

pretty much any good lifter when lifting submaximal weights wil catch it and ride it down.

as it gets heavier, they catch it lower.

does that notmake sense to you?????

>>38839331
very impressive, but I think your heels are coming off the ground too much on the first pull.

have been having a lot of trouble with clean and jerks lately. every time i go relatively heavy, the bar seems to crash down on me, and really push my upper chest down. i feel a kind of internal pain as if it's pushing my bones inwards, or something. could it just be lack of upper body strength? could it be mistiming?

bw 86kg, snatch 93kg, clean and jerk 105kg.

happens to me anytime i'm cleaning more than 93kg or so. i hit 97kg fairly easily the other day, but couldn't stand from 102kg. honestly almost feels easier to snatch 93kg than to clean and jerk it

>>38838650
>you don't catch a 20kg snatch rock bottom.
every rep should be executed the same. your 50% should look like your 95%. catch every snatch rock bottom, dunkhead

>>38840098
except thats not true.

your power clean should look the same as a full clean, your clean oull shkuld look rhe same too.but its not the same????
t. you're stupid.

how do you snatch the bar and catch it in bottom pos without sacrificingnhuge amounts ofnpower in your extension? either you dont put much energy into the bar at all so you catch it low, or you put a normak amount of energy into it and catch it higher and ride it down. eithef way the lift is different.

if youre to do your 50% the exact same as your 95%, youre doing somethng wrong. because the movements will be different. timing will be different at heavier weights, mechanics will ideally be the same, but temoo and energy snd agression are different.

if you snatch 40kg and extend with full force (the same amount of effort you put into 100%), and you get under st the bar just as fast as yiu do with 100%, it doesnt matte.r the bar will stil be locked out before you reach the bottom, because it has so much energy going up. even if you do get down so fast youre in the bottom, youll be tugging the bar down and having it crash on you.

this is bad.

youre a fucking dumbo t-minus go fuck yourself kidd

>>38834966
While it's entirely possible, and maybe even likely that many top lifters are on roids, they are innocent until proven guilty

Nobody is fooled, when there's only one person on roids they stick out like a sore thumb, like boyanka did, for example

>>38836040
In English people usually use the present participle in this situation instead of just the regular present tense

>if you are wondering

>>38837081
>>38837086
You can stretch every day

But it's not something you do without concentrating on it, you have to try really hard when you stretch to do it properly, so maybe three times per week is better

After a month or so you will see a significant improvement

>>38839331
>bald + beard
v nice

I'm getting a little thin on top so I'm probably going to start shaving my head soon

>>38840080
Could be a million things going wrong senpai, post a video, my guess is you're pulling it too high and it's crashing down on you

Whats your fs max?

>>38840080
Get your elbows around and recieve in a tight front squat focus on this during warmup like power clean most of our warmup focus on tight rack position and ride it down to a full

Helps a lot. Watch Dimas or zlatan vanev or any good lifter really

Yo

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>>38840608
>pulling it too high
do you think this is the case? i'm unafraid of getting under weights and have a habit of sneaking the bar. i wonder if i'm just sneaking under weight i'm not supposed to be under.

>>38840661
sometimes i will get pissed that i miss and will go at it super aggressively and will receive it pretty tightly which really does help. also, i don't have this issue with power cleans, which signals to me that it's a timing issue?

this is only around 88kg, so it's still light.

>>38841997
same lift, slowed down

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>>38842011
oh wtf, forgot file. sage for triple post

>>38840608
best i've done is 95kg

>>38841997
>>38842020
hi, do you want to join us on wechat?
my id is poopybuns

>clean and press 95lbs
>shoulder instantly pins and needles
>pain becomes agitating rest of workout

The fuck

>>38840144
wait, are you actually talking shit after just posting a video of a failed 70kg snatch???

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>>38841997
i dont think youre pulling too high in the vid but if you want a drill you can always do this
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFvTbkUgNL0/

>>38840080
seems like youre just lacking leg strength or just simply need to practice clean and jerk more.
pic related

>>38842368
Yeah I'm down. Not familiar with wechat. Just search by username?

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>>38842446
Yes, or use qr code
everybody is sleeping now tho

>>38842433
Hmm probably both. Honestly I'm just weak as fuck. Not good at the strength thing. Some days I can't clean/jerk more than 5kg of what I snatched for that day.

I think I could stand to gain upper body mass, too. Do you recommend a squat routine? I've done RSR, but dunno if that's too advanced for my state

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>>38842469
I dont recommend any kind of squat program whether thats smolov, rsr, sheiko, squat everyday, or other program that is specific for one exercise.

too many people use program as if they are some kind of puzzle and try to mix and match. this only cause injuries and broken dreams because those programs dont calculate what you would do for the classics and other accessories.
at least thats the case for hobbyist who dont use drugs.

usually a standard periodized program would make lifters do 10-12 sets ending with 3 sets x 2 reps at 85-90%. this is ofc determined on what stage it is in the program.

for hobbyists, your goal shouldnt be to get fastest results but consistent results that are injury free.

>>38840454
Thank you, anon !

>>38833581
I don't believe you can snatch 70

>>38839544

>85kg
maybe eventually but he's 77rn

>>38843159

if he can't right now, he's close
I'm actually kinda impressed even though the self-harm shit is weird

75BW
100 FS

What are some squat routines I can run for my front squat only to reach a 3pl8 front squat? I won't really be backsquatting much. Not really sure where to look.

And what are the best squat routines for this in your opinion?

>>38843563

you don't need anything fancy, just make sure you bsq and fsq once a week each at least and it should go up quickly. 100kg fs is nothing much at that weight, so it should be just a few months before 120 at least. Just introduce some periodisation in there so you don't burn out

>>38835672
you look like a young mart seim. keep it up. oh, and do actual classics.

>>38836040
nice

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No more bodyweight advantage in ranking + new weight classes for women

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>>38843236
thx

>>38844896
who is this dyel cunt and why is he posting in my board

>>38844896
nice gyno, faggot!

>>38843648
What if I'm stupid as fuck?
I've read that squatting to a max 5x a week is quite good but are the backoffs necessary?

>>38846042
not necessary but helpful

>>38846221
Nice, looking strong Commi

>>38846258
i think you mean fat

>>38846221
dude, walk backwards when you're unracking, not when you're racking

>>38846258
Thanks you my dode.

>>38846269
dude////////////////////////////// go fuck yourself??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>38846269
this way feels good man

>>38844819

more Olympic medals for fat ladies?

>>38846316
I would post lolis with you but I'm off to bed.

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>>38846485
g'nite

Here is new Olympic squat and pull program!!!!!

Texas Method for the Olympics

-MONDAY-
Squat: 4-6/4-6 @ 85-95% of 5RM
Snatch Pull: 2-3/6-8 @ 80-90% of 1RM

-WEDNESDAY-
Front Squat: 2-4/2-4 @ 80-85% of 1RM

-FRIDAY-
Squat: Work up to a PR 3-5RM
Hard Clean Pull: Work up to a PR 1-3RM

This make you very strong, only $20. You can't run program until you pay, part of why is it's very powerful and you don't know it all yet.

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>>38832073
After a couple of days of mobility work and trying to get my form in check, I tried putting weight on my snatches and clean and jerks and I have to say, my lower traps are fucking dead. Is this normal?

>>38839331
You're strong, but please work on your form, this is crossfit level
>>38839994
This is the least of his worries

>>38840080
>>38842020
You're right it's likely your timing. If your technique is good there's no such thing as "pulling too high," if you pull it higher you just catch it higher.

Experiment with getting under the bar a little later, so really finish your pull and focus on meeting the bar.

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>>38833437
>he's still at it

holy fuck, don't give up fampai

https://chinfl.blogspot.sk

3 new articles for anyone who wants to learn chinese secrits
>pls give me attention

>>38832694
femurs seeming long is often just because you have bad mobility
long arms solvable by getting hyug

>>38834608
trying to get to bw snatch in the next weeks. goal is 90 snatch and 200+ total by the end of the year.

anyone else having problem with the uni nationals streams?

>>38833437
i giggled thx

>>38835672
ur fat

>>38848239
fuck off Pas i can poewr clean your bodyweight for rep and almost power snatch it and i have better fighting levers therefore i can kcik the ever loving shit out of u

>>38838278
do more strength and core work
try and relax your face a bit when lifting and control where you're looking, its p offputting desu senpai

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>>38832073
/r/ing self improvement yt podcasts

>>38840080
timing, overpulling, not using arms to control bar, rushing
try to focus on catching the bar where it stops, guiding it with the arms, and riding it down
pause front squats will help with upper back strength too

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>>38848319
after comp this weekend i plan to deload, then run le texas method to drive up my squat and such, with classics no heavier than 80% done every workout.

and what do you mean offputting?

>>38840144
>>38842425
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDAkXrLpwh6
heres a nice example of how a light snatch should look imo

>>38848378
DUDE SHE CAUGHT IT HIGH...

AND RODE IT DOWN????????????????????????????????????

DUEDE U SHOULD CATCH EVERY SNATCH AS DEEP AAS U CAN DUDE THAT WAY 50% LOOKS THE SAME AS 99% LOKS THE SAME AS 0%

PLAY HOW U PRERFORM HAHA OR HOWEVER THE SAYIGN GOFES XDDDDDDDDDD

>>38848368
do more
paused squats
pulls and paused pulls
presses
pullups/rows
arm work
shoulder work
core work

offputting cos it looks so silly
>>38848297
i got some boxing shorts on friday dont mess m8

>>38848368
Latest PP has a texas/olympic hybrid split over 4 days. Good way to keep practicing/driving up yer lifts while also increasing strength.

Its one major weakness for overall strength is the ommission of bench in favour of press, but definitely worth considering if you haven't already.

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>>38848427
yeah thats the plan, i plan to make time to do all that stuff.

i have to be careful because i think im treading into injury territory. some hip probs (pretty sure glute activation is fixing it) and shoulder issues that i've had for the last 2 years (i feel that pretty much any shoulder is a no go for now, when I do heavy classics my right shoulder hurts so bad sometimes that it hurts to do anything with it but have ti dangle at my side), my back currently hurts because of just so much workload ive done and no deload of any kind for months.

hips and back should be fine, Im worried about shoulders though. but i've been doing dedicated rotator cuff work, i'm hoping that with stretching of lats/chest + deload will go a long way.

i just wish i could train more than 3x a week, i can/have been utilizing my first period of class to have a quick 40 min session in the gym, it's only an extra 1-2 excercises 5 times a week, but i it can go a long way.

i just find im too tired for school after training in the mornings, and its valuable time lost that I can spend studying. i also always end up late for 2nd period

please kill me??????????????

i just want people to be able to say "well he's not strong but he's not weak"a bout me or smthn

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>>38848454
i dont have access to the gym that much and i'm fine with just doing light classics while pushing up strength then driving them up later.

thanks though, do know of somewhere i can read about this program other than the book, just out of itnerest?

>>38848591
bodybuilding work shouldnt be heavy and should help fix your injuries if done right. try lightish upright rows with a plate/bar/dumbbell, rear delt flyes and lu raises

in your morning sessions do bodybuilding, stretching and core, and maybe a bit of empty bar tech work if time, added bonus is sick pump for class and it wont tire you out as much

>>38848641
>bodybuilding work shouldnt be heavy and should help fix your injuries if done right. try lightish upright rows with a plate/bar/dumbbell, rear delt flyes and lu raises
yeah, i tried to do upright rows the other day for sickening delts, i couldnt do that properly, my shoulders kept shrugging up, shulders coming forward, and felt a werid grinding in my shoulders. you probably think its nbd but i believe that's bad for the shoulder. bodybuilder style lat raise i cant do righgt either, but lu raise is good and probably wont hurt, rear delt is fine too. that, and i'll include lots of cable rowing. i've been doing lots of rowing on a chest support machine lately, its pretty nice. but rowing with elbow flare works more rear delt and low trap and is good for shoulder.

>in your morning sessions do bodybuilding, stretching and core, and maybe a bit of empty bar tech work if time, added bonus is sick pump for class and it wont tire you out as much
yeah maybe i'll do this hehe, it takes like 30 mins to walk to gym though and i have to shower because im a sweaty bitch??????????

>>38848718
na grinding is bad, if you do it right it should be pain and click free
aim to keep chest up and just pull it up to your forehead, finding a shoulder position which is comfortable
doing it with a plate is probs best

just spay with loads of deoderant ezpz :^)

>>38848775
so i abduct then externally rotate my shoulder?

desu i think this is a meme excercise hehe but maybe train like chinese isnt too bad :)

>>38848823
idk external internal rotation stuff always hurts my head, idek what abducting shoulder means
just chest up, pull to forehead and find a shoulder position which is comfortable
china coach says its the exercise anyone with any shoulder issues should almost definitely be doing, gave it to a guy at my old gym with chronic shoulder issues for like 10+ years and he said it completely fixed it after a couple of months or so, and it helped me with some mild shoulder pain too

>>38848624
Not sure - I've never seen it mentioned anywhere else and it's only covered briefly in the book as one of the examples of how adaptable the Texas method is for various sports.

If memory serves it was the same program used/developed by some of the US junior nationals who used to train at Witchita Falls, so if you go searching for 'four day intermediate weightlifting program' on the Starting Strength site you might find it mentioned.

It's almost exactly as you'd expect it to be with the addition of a little bit of dynamic effort work to facilitate tapering before a meet. I'm planning to run it myself once my current strength cycle is up.

>>38848880
send a vid please but i think i get it

i suspect the reason it helps the shoulder so much is that pulling to head strengthens exteral rotators wich often cures shoulder prob

>>38848887
man i hate mark rippetoe

>>38848624
You need to concentrate on conditioning your spinal erectors and glutes into lifting heavy loads. Don't focus so much on classics when you're a newcomer, they're not important until competitions are a few months round the corner.

It's better to be stronger than have better technique, because the latter takes less time to build up.

>>38848943
oi
>>38848924
kinda like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhw_5Nl92As

>>38848924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRZSO_pI9o

>>38848214
>because you have bad mobility
why do people keep trying to tell me this shit

I can literally turn my knees in opposite directions and squat down till my ass is 5cm off the floor, without shoes or any heel support whatsoever
hip mobility is literally the only problem that I don't have

>>38849040
>hip mobility is literally the only problem that I don't have

So you have poor mobility.

>>38835351
>>38835977
anon pls respond I'm legitimately curious about ur lifts

>>38849062
>reading comprehension

>>38849040
ankles you goof

Explain to me how clean and jerk isnt dangerous as fuck?

Why would you ever use momentum for a lift?

Hurr durr 300lbs over my head huuurrrrr duuuurrrrr

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>>38849108
it's pretty dangerous dude dont even try

>>38849040
squats are confusing and complicated, there are ways to magically make femurs appear shorter which i dont get but have something to do with mobility

>>38849108
entry level b8

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>>38848977
>>38848980
i think i might just be retarded

>>38849162
elbows as high as you can get them, try and get them above wrists or something
chest up more i think but cant rly tell
then try making some minor changes so your shoulders feel good

>>38849193
they say elbows up high (shoulder abducted) and internally rotated (like rotating your arm so your forearm is behind your back) is bad for rotator cuff???

i felt some weird feelings in my shoulders just filming that vid

im very skeptical pas i dont want to explode m shudler

>>38849221
you should be able to find a way thats comfortable to do
if you do it controlled it often feels better than less controlled
but if you dont wanna dont do it, but pls do lots of other bbing stuff and eat more
as long as u can find a way to do it not hurting the shoulder at all there shouldnt be anything to worry about

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>>38849108
it is, thats why you be extra careful out there lil buddy!

>>38849270
yeah i dont think im going to do these
i think u could be secretely plotting to destroy my shoulder

i also already feel fat but ok???????????????????????????????????????? i'll eat more???????????????????????????????????????

and what do you think of doing this sort of split for my mornings i get to lift:

monday
back/delts + rotator cuff work
tuesday
abs/lower back
wenesdeyday
biceps/triceps
thursday
back/delts + rotator cuff
friday
abs/lower back

????

>>38849381
need more biceps and triceps senpai

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>>38849270
yeah i dont think im going to do these
i think u could be secretely plotting to destroy my shoulder

i also already feel fat but ok???????????????????????????????????????? i'll eat more???????????????????????????????????????

and what do you think of doing this sort of split for my mornings i get to lift:

monday
back/delts + rotator cuff work
tuesday
abs/lower back
wenesdeyday
biceps/triceps
thursday
abs/lower back
friday
back/delts + rotator cuff

????

>>38849403
chins n rows n bench n whatever works the arms good though but i'll do more when i feel like it i guess?????????

>>38849418
ye looks like u still need to try lifting elbows up harder and ur hyperextending lower back loads there but nvm just dont do it

>>38843236
I'm impressed desu his snatch relative to his strength is actually very good. All memes aside his technique in the pull is not bad at all.

>>38848943
Do you think so? Ive hit 90/102 (yeah I know... 120clean tho) with 160/140 bs/fs and ropey technique and poor flexibility... Recently started drilling technique with sub 70% to focus on not pulling with arms, proper catch etc while working on mobility

Realistically with this approach for a few months how quickly do you think I'd see my classics go back up?

>>38849673
thats a troll post

https://twitter.com/USWeightlifting/status/780143607084789760

>tfw waifu won

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>>38849621
is this good tech?

>>38849698
are you saying i should train classics heavy then??????????????

>>38849712
has she gotten weaker? i swear she's done more
must suck being a female lifter tbph

>>38849698
Even so it's obvious it's my technique that needs work. Just wondered if you had any idea after working at low % and correcting errors how quick you can work up again

>>38850385
idk
stick to working at weights you are in control of, except on rare occasions you decide to test maxes

>>38849733
nigga about to unleash a spirit bomb

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WOULD OYU FUCK MY TWINK ASS??????????

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dont die on me now

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what are good bodybuilding/accessory exercises for upper chest? specifically, how can i add more muscle to the small muscles that insert around the collarbone/ribs?

>>38853320
Low cable flyes

Hey Seanzie, did you learn all your oly lifting through YouTube videos only? How did you get your form right, was there someone you could ask for coaching when you first started off?

>>38854041
wow lol. fucking weird that i saw this almost exactly as you posted it

yes, i learned by obsessively watching youtube videos. mainly szymon kolecki, taner sagir and clarence kennedy. (you need to find someone with similar body proportions to yourself if you're going to try to emulate them)

>How did you get your form right
dude, that's the thing. my form is DOG SHIT. coaching yourself is very hard if you suck ass like me

>was there someone you could ask for coaching when you first started off?
no, i was completely on my own and still am. i posted form checks here in /owg/ fairly often back in like 2013 though. that's what i would recommend you to do , there are a few guys here who know a bit an are willing to help out (deliuge, pas, schtangist but he's gone, pent, geordil)

>>38854146
Cool thanks. I had to ask here because yt isn't anonymous enough. I enjoy watching your lifts.

>>38854241
yeah i understand. i'm still not really sure why i started that channel lel

thanks man, maybe one day i won't be shit

good luck bro

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>>38833437
>tfw blueshoes probably has better tech than me
why live

>>38846221
be honest, how are your knees feeling now?

How do I get into Olympic lifting without fucking my shit up/making an ass of myself?

Eg I don't want to be dropping a half pl8 snatch on my first attempt.

I think I can do the movements but I'm honestly scared to try. Eg, sometimes I clean the bar into the rack before removing weights.

>>38854764
some people try reaching 1/2/3/4 before starting olympic lifting

>>38853320

>isolation

wrong thread

>>38854764

Honestly, you kind of need to embrace the assery. Oly lifting is hard to get right, you're gonna fuck up when you start. Everyone does. Being strong doesn't stop you making an ass of yourself, just means you make an ass of yourself with heavier weights (see: fat, norse).

>>38854787

shut up retard

tired of people acting like olympic lifting should only be obtained after reaching some arbitrary strength goal

that's honestly so dumb that I can tell you aren't training right

>>38854816
>implying its smart for dyels to be snapping their backs out

oly weightlifting is not safe and you dont just jump into it

>>38854805
olympic weightlifter here, i could use the upper body development. would like to put a little more meat around my shoulder girdle area to help cradle the bar a bit better.

also, i sometimes suffer from costochondritis, and in general tend to have a somewhat weak rib cage. figure the isolation might help.

what's wrong?

I keep tiptoeing when front squatting above 95% of my 1RM.

Help.

>>38855303
weight in heels

>>38855303
dont listen to guy saying weight on heel.

just learn the stay balanced.

dont shoot hips up or round back.

if thoe things are such an issue, dont lift above 95% of max until they are not.

>>38855303
stop doing it

>>38854146
seanzie y did u delet instagram

It's been a fucking while since /owg/ got so many posts.

Quick question here: my knees hurt. (i think it's because when i go down the squat, i do it too loosely and i go too low)

Should i train oly today or just some regular gym stuff?

>>38857224
you are maybe not bracing yours knees properly, hamstrings or glutes not being used going down or something. Stop doing that mang.

train oly boi, never stop

>>38857254
alright, thanks bby

>>38854764
If ur embarrassed to fail a few lifts u have no chance just quit now

>>38854833
That's why you learn it properly baka famalam the idea of getting a retarded powerlifting standard before oly lifting is dumb, ur not gonna die if u learn technique with the empty bar and you're gonna be getting stronger while u do that why waste time and do then separately

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I realize that I'm basically an injury meme now but you may be interested to know that my CT showed some scoliosis. I always passed this off as one side being tighter than the other, but wahey, turns out it's always been there. You can see it clearly in this pic, even though I always rationalized it as nothing.

I also have minor L4-L5 disc bulging. It's not impacting any nerve clusters so the radiologist said it's not really causative of my ongoing SI joint problems, which have not improved in around 3 months

I'm going to take 3 months off from WL and try to hit 130 bench @ 80.

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le bulgarain

>>38857426
???????????

>>38857426
If you weren't so soft and wobbly in the receive you'd be so much better, the pull isnt even bad

What's your current 1rm back squat blue my boy

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>>38857793
115 probably good for 117 and a half :^)

best front squat is 85 for few reps, i kept failing 90 though ?????

best pwr snatch is 60 best pwr clean is 80
best clean and jerk is 70 (??????????)

bst snatch 65

>>38858030
All jokes aside about you, your classics numbers are pretty good in relation to your squatting.

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>>38858047
theyre piss

after comp im just focusing on pushing up squat and pull anyway

no classics above 80% except on specific occasions

also going to do alot more upper body work... you know why (i bench 50% of my back squat)

who cares about efficiency anyway

>>38838058
keep your fucking chin up when catching dude, or else you'll bomb even harder

>>38849485
fucking kek

>>38832073
Went to the local clubs gym this morning. Had a little session with the coach and he told me what I needed to fix with my snatch (hipping out instead of up, not finishing the pull etc.). Also said that while my squat form is good and mobility is solid I'm not putting up enough weight and will put me on a heavy squatting program. Was good fun and learned a bit. Thanks for getting me started senpai.

If I work REALLY REALLY hard, could I make the European Championships if I'm starting from scratch @ 24years old?

I've been lifting for two years so not completely unfamiliar to barbells but not really flexible or familiar with oly lifting.

>>38832073
Yes, lets put things up and down like a fucking degenerate,
Faggot kill yourself

>>38858073
whats ur next comp famalam

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>>38832073
REEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE MY FUCKING LIFE
E ERYTHING HURTS NY HIOS MY KNEE MY IT VAND MY SHOULDER MY BACK MY CALVES

MY SHOULDER AND H8O WONT STOP FUCKIBG CLICKINT AND POPPING

I PROBABLY WONT MAKE PRS 9N COMP

IM SO FUCKING DEPRESSED AND AMGRY AND TIRED I CWNT EVEN STUDY

IM PROBABLY OVERTRAINED AND I CANT DO FUCKING ANYTHING REEEE EIM GIING TO HUMP IN FRONT OF A FUCKING YRUCK I SWEAR

IM SO HUNGRY BUT UM TOO TIRED TI BUT FOOD

IM JUST DOINGNLIGHT CJ TONIGHT ANDNMAYBE PUKO MY BACK DELTS AND SOMENROTWTORNCUFF WORK AND IM REEEEJXIXJEIEIC FUCK OFF>>38832073
>>38858591
RAY HAMILTON OPEN REEEEEEEEEEE


>>38832103

>>38858689
thats rly soon aint it? you gonna be doin ON juniors?

>>38858323

Yeah, maybe, depending on the country you're repping.

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>>38858769
yes on saturday


and yes and im hoping u show up again?????????

...and hoping u stick aroud since in not in a twink class hehe

>>38832073

Is that supposed to be a Klokov pepe?

He usually lifts in 3/4-tights and adidas shoes

>>38858073
You shouldn't care about efficiency because you are efficient. Power clean -5kg below your fs is very efficient. But you're weak as fuck. Just work on it. The bulk of your classics should be 70-85% anyway if ur god tier ruski style

>>38858869
nice, and yeah this is gona be my last time, probably gonna be competing as a light 77

>>38859028
russian training is kind of dumb

>>>38859053
Ill be light or maybe heavg 105 :^) maybe ill make 105+ if i really let myself go

>38859028
65 snatch at 80 pc and 60 psn is bad efficiency, same with 70 cnj

>>38859107
i meant to say its dumb cuz good luck ttying to kick ass in comp lifting maximal weights when all of ur training is submax

>>38857037
idk, when i had one all i was posting was videos of other lifters anyways lol

i think most social media is a sewer basically. >inb4 but you have a yt channel
true, but i just started that because the loneliness was starting to kill me inside :^)

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she getting thicc

>>38860042

I can always tell when I see an American Olympic lifter. They're always just sort of slow/awkward/imprecise.

>>38860048
spotted the retarded

megan has good techniccc

>>38860126
look at juan keem (hwan kim), or even deliuge for an even more extreme example. his tech is very good mechanically, yes. but hes slow and unagressive. which cucks him bigtime.

>>38860288
i literally guarantee you don't snatch 100

>>38860288
says someone who only seen videos of people lifting

you dont realize speed till you actually watch in person, different lens, fps its shot on and shit changes how you perceive speed on film

>>38835672

>pointlessly narrow stance
>Can barely press 60kg
>Heels constantly coming off floor
>Knee wraps for 60kg

What an absolute waste.

>>38860452
In other words:

You jelly

>>38860359
>>38860406
Yankee Internet defence forces?

>>38860561
no , it's just a meme from retarded newfags like yourself to insult american lifters to try and fit in with us

it's very obvious and pathetic, so we all gang up on you

>>38860359
what if i dont?

>>38860406
youre right, ive never seen deiuge or juan lift in person. however, im pretty sure the cameras are calbirated ti the proper timescale???

>>38860582
The point is that you're a newfag that doesn't know anything so you're attempt at critiquing other lifters technique is laughable

>>38860598
trip on, deliuge.

youre a real oldfag right, been in /owg/ for, what was it, 2 decades????????

>>38860042
W H O
H
O

>>38854374
zero problems

>>38860005
was wechat social media for you too?
hehe

>>38860979
i only had the wechat for like 3 days, tyvm

i couldn't keep up with the amount you guys posted in that group lel

>>38860288
when i was lifting in the training hall at uni nats the guys on the platform next to us were commenting on how i was so incredibly fast under the bar

>>38861017
you can mute notifications, we started a chat for exclusively weightlifting talk too

>>38861048
>not realizing it was sarcasm

>>38861180
>i was just pretending to be retarded

>>38858323
Doubtful desu. The qualifying standards are fairly high. Unless you're a woman in the c group. But does partly depend on country

>>38861048
ur speed is slow everywhere and normal speed under the bar, it makes your speed under the bar look fsster than it is

>>38859129
That isn't how Russian programming works you goon

Can some explain squat every day to me? I've read about it but don't grasp it.

What increments should you increase daily max by? 5kg? And at which point do you stop? Before grinding, whilst grinding?

If people have off days, what would an example week look like of DMs? Would they all be very similar?

Has anyone run it and are the back off sets necessary at first?

>>38861272
just squat ot a max every day

when you're feeling good go for pr

do backoff and focus on weaknesses, if you want or if you feel like you even need it

keep grinding to a minimum

daily max should be minimally 92% on average %94

>>38861272
>>38861360
u should also take time to build up to it, e.g. if u currently swuat 3x a week, do 4-5x, wait toll you fele comfortable doing it (could take weeks or months), add another session, add another, repeat till u sauat like 7x a week.

they will never be a true grinder max, id never exceed 95% except on very special occasion. also realize intensity and volume are inversely proportional, and since frequency is so high, when u do volume/bsckoffs, depending on hownmuch you do, id keep it suoer light, esp at first (like a 5x5 at 50% of tru max or 60% of your light non-grindy "daily max")

>>38860048
Megan isn't slow ya goof. Have you ever been to a local comp or any weightlifting gym? You'll realise what slow and awkward is then

>>38861272
Don't do it

All the explanation u need

today coach at club i train at told me i cud become mega pro if i just follow his programming
im scared

>>38861982

unlock ur true potentielle bb

just let the key slide right in

>>38862048
this guy says a lot of p bs stuff tho, and only has 1 good lifter afaik
m8 this is tuff

>>38861615

i need more, y not m9?

>>38848182
This blog is cool, gj

>>38862061

You could try him out for a few months, see how it goes, and if you're not making any progress after that you can just tell him to fuck off. Politely, though, so he can't kick you out of the gym.

>>38862140
ye i may do this
i asked china coach what he thinks, he always told me i train too hard and now this coach is saying i dont train hard enough

>>38862276

Don't you train like 8 sessions a week?

>>38862289
i think he thinks i dont go heavy enough on my normal working sets i think, and probs doesnt like how i deload every 3 weeks

I just lifted today. Tomorrow I'm tempted to go to the local weightlifting club and sign up. Would I be able to do anything tomorrow despite lifting today? Or would it mostly be stretching and technique work with the bar since I'm new to this?

>>38862388
He a stupid dummi
Don't pay him pas pay me instead hehehe

>>38837183
i look at it as 'my time to shine'

Honestly, can I be decent if I have long legs short torso and I have a 6'3 wingspan at 5'9 ?

>>38858323
if uk you won't beat me at qualifying

>>38863172

I'm from norway. I don't think we have a big presence in the sport. Would be nice to some day compete, even at a local meet. Dream would be international competition.

>>38863180
i'll see you at euros sometime then champ if you can hack it
also
>norweigan lifters anyone knows of
>emmahald
hnnnnng wowsers that girl is 10/10

>>38863219

kek she lives in the same county as me, although not in the same city.

Scenes if I ever meet her.