Just found out I'm 350ng/dl test at 20 y/o. Give me ONE

>>38809708
No reason not to.
You should be happy, you'll make way better gains now.
Just do 250mg of test e a week.
That should put you in the 1500ng/dl range.

>>38809802
I rlllyy want to get legit trt though.my chances are nearly nonexistent though. Right?

So is there anything holding me back now? I've always suspected low T, now I know for sure. Any other reason NOT to start?

>>38809708
How your physique looking like OP?
Always been curious to see what guy on low test look like

>>38809830
Your test is still to high for most doctors to prescribe trt.
Look into sarms if you want to lower your test levels and get prescribed trt.
Only reasons not to do trt is the sides (hair loss, acne, shrunken balls) most can be mitigated though.

>>38809872
>Look into sarms
he said he wants to go on trt, not to go 6 ft under the ground

>>38809872
How the fuck

350ng/dl is the average test of elderly men

>>38809899
Thousands of people have taken sarms and none have had any serious side effects....

>>38809802
Haha no, 250 will put you in the 3k range
100mg is all you need for peak natty levels

>>38809915
280ng/dl is the low end of the scale that doctors use.
Your average general practitioner is gonna want you below 200ng/dl before they even mention trt,

>>38809931
So I basically have to be at castration levels?

Ridiculous.

>>38809916
this shit does nothing besides fucking up your health. He can get underground lab test, pin for like 2 -3 weeks, go off and his test levels will drop under low end scale

>>38809830
Test is healthier than the androgens your doc will peddle

if I've been cutting for three months(slowly though) will my test levels be lower when I test them?

>>38809931
yet you can be some sick-ill minded individual that thinks he's a girl and get prescribed all types of hormones and even sex surgery?

what a world we live in

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>>38810066
>>38809931

wat do?

>>38810097
Post pic of physique first
Guaranteed you're fat and have a terrible diet

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>>38809947
Slightly lower than castration levels really.

>>38810120
I am kind of fat but id say that's more cause and effect when I gain almost no muscle from hulking all fat from low as fuck test

>>38810166
If your diet was shit, no
If your diet was good, maybe

>>38810184
I suppose my diet could be improved

I was 330ng/dl at aged 18 and deadlifted 405lbs for 5. Aged 22 (now) 565 for 1. Haven't had my test checked since but as long as you're within normal range it shouldn't hinder your ability to make gains.

>>38810498
damn how

Shouldn't low test have stopped you? Or does it more apply to muscle mass than strength somehow?

Eat very little, take opiates, sleep very little and take sarms

If you can do this for about 2 weeks you will have a good chance of getting a low t score

>>38809931
Can't he do a low dose cycle (maybe solo dbol) just to crash his natty test so he gets legal trt?

>>38811674

>low test

You really need to get off /fit

>>38811896
What?

I posted my results look at
>>38810097

>>38809802
With levels like that naturally, you can just lower them slightly and get legit treatment. Tips:

> drink a ton of alcohol + beer
> smoke a ton of weed
> take a lot of stimulants like caffeine and black tea
> eat mint or drink peppermint tea
> get less than 6 hours of sleep each night
> don't sleep at all the night before
> stop all exercise
> eat a ton of processed shit like candy, fast food and soda
> go on a low fat and low protein diet
> eat a lot of licorice + licorice root & tea
> eat more flaxseed
> jerk off as much as possible
> stop taking Vitamin D and multivit, kreatine, BCAA, etc.
> try to stress yourself somehow before doing the test
> behave like a weak pussy just before the test + have low-power body language/posture
> eat menstrual blood (for real)
> avoid high-test foods
> avoid sex

Gonna try this myself soon.

>>38812151
they still wont give a fuck or will prescribe you androgel or something

could i get gains and still be low test?

i have gotten good gains and a good strength level but nothing expectacular for two years, but i'm also a turbomanlet

I also had performance anxiety and porn induced ED for some time

how do i ask for a testosterone check?

>>38812151
>marijuana lowers test
[citation needed]

>>38812151
>flaxseed lowers test
p-please tell me this is a meme i eat so much of that stuff

>>38813882
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6090909
citation given

>>38811937
Dude, don't fall for retarted /fit/ memes.
I was in the same trap like you last year. I got my test checked, my test was low and I became depresses as hell.
Testosterone heavily fluctuates and these numbers alone dont have much relevance because they dont take the effectivity of your receptors in account.
Some people have low test and highly responsive receptors which gives them a high testosterone sensitivity.
That's also the reason why some people basically blow up on gear while others stay relatively small. Just look at the /fraud/ fags, there are people on gear who look like absolute shit.
As long as your dick works fine and you have a "normal" sexdrive, I can alomst guarantee that everything is alright.

Of course you could still juice up if you aren't satisfied with your natural gains but don't think you HAVE TO because there's something wrong with you. That's an unhealthy mindset that fucked me up for quite some time.

>>38809708

Because you're a GDE and should consider suicide instead.

>>38812151
I-i do half of this while trying to make it.

A-am I gonna make it?

Imagine how much smaller your balls could be

Did you check your LH, FSH, estradiol, TSH, T4, T3 and prolactin? Isn't more sensible to check everything well perhaps you have a treatable reason for this not so low test (perhaps you are not even low test, if you recheck the hormone it could be fine) before hopping on exogenous testosterone and being sterile and life dependant on it?

>>38809899
been taking sarms since I was 16, now 19. no adverse health effects. get bloods done on regular they're all fine

use lgd or rad instead of orals to kickstart cycles

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>>38809708
>tfw 870ng/dL at 25.

>>38814878
That's the thing man.

I have every symptom. I knew I was low teat way before I checked it.

I have:
- no sex drive
- always tired even sleeping 9 hrs a day
- muscles recover very slowly
- low sex drive
- rarely ever get erections
- no facial or body hair
- No fucking gains

>>38815002
I only checked estradiol.

>Being sterile and life dependent
[Citation needed] because all the research I've done shows that isn't the case, but even if it were I don't care.

Ill blast and cruise for 10 years into my 30's before getting trt prescribed.

Want to get mine checked. Where do I got / how di I test.

Any natural ways to free test?

>>38809708
Serious question here

What signs would a 20 year old look for if he has low test?

Or did you even notice any OP?

I dont know if I should really pay for bloods since poorfag

>>38815064
"Production of LH and FSH is inhibited by negative feedback from estrogens and
androgens at both the hypothalamus and pituitary levels. Androgen excess may
induce a hypogonadal state whether from exogenous sources or endogenous
production, such as a metabolic abnormality or an androgen-producing tumor."

https://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uthsc.edu/endocrinology/documents/ch08-syllabus-Childress.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwili_GMrKTPAhUCFh4KHVacAVwQFggoMAQ&usg=AFQjCNFbCP3is6VW1NR7N4k2hk3Ah7hF0w

>>38809708
What state do you live in? Go to a hormone doctor. I go to a place called genemedics

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>>38809846
Last blood test put me at just above clinically low test

>>38815150
Wat do?

Ask doctor to get it checked or just self medicate?

>>38815231
Damn you don't look bad, skinny but better than a lot of people.

What are your lifts at?

>>38815064
Most of these symptoms often have other reasons and aren't reliable but if you really have no sexdrive...
I would still try to fix them the "natural" way, zinc and vitamin-d supps, lots of healthy fats etc. The Human body is insanely complex and efficient and yet I get the feeling every 2nd /fit/izen thinks that his body is a genetic failure that isn't even able to produce it's own hormones. If it was like that, we all would've been extinct.

TRT is the last thing you should want, I just see no good reason why young people should need that to properly function.

Everyone gets incredibly paranoid over their test level, it's unreal.

Good luck OP!

>>38815239
Haven't tested 1RM in 4 months, but squat 235, DL 315, and bench 165 for 5x5. At 6 ft 180 lbs. Was 170 in that picture

>>38815270
you look like you bench the bar desu

>>38815257
Preach man, you hit the nail on the head regarding a ton of the paranoia I had regarding my low test readings about a year back. Im >>38815231 fwiw. I haven't sought TRT treatment and I still don't have much sex drive but most of my other symptoms seemed to be mental issues rather than testosterone induced

>>38815270
>same weight
>higher lifts
>don't look nearly as lean
GENETIC REEEEEEEEEEEEE
also, nice lack of pecs

>>38815301
Try cardio one time. I'm a rower so I don't expect to have a ton of upper body strength, but I guarantee I could crush you in any sort of work capacity

>>38815317
yeah well my uncle works at nintendo

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>>38815301
>>38815284
different lighting/pose just for you :*

>>38815257
Man.

Weighing the pros and cons, on a logical level I see no reason to not cruise test. I've done tons of research. I see no reason at all for me not to.

>Low cost
>Minimal side effects
>Tons of benefit

>>38815270
Nice dude. How long lifting?

>>38815400

Cause if you got a conscience, it'll feel like cheating. Plus look at the old time juice monkeys..

You barely have any muscle mass. Why bother with trt when you can already make significant gains by eating more and lifting more?

>>38815450
How is it cheating?

If I was diabetic or had some other health problem requiring medication is that cheating too?

I'm not a competing athlete in any tested sport, it's not cheating.

>>38815468
Because test dramatically helps? I have the testosterone levels of an elderly man.

>>38815450
Also TRT is allowed in tested sports too.

There's no way a guy with 70 year old man-test can be expected to compete with a guy with high end of normal range.

>>38815481
That's a fair point, but have you tried it without test first?

>>38815498
Yes I've been lifting.

Trying to eat well for the last 2 years - no soda, no alcohol, healthy fats, protein etc.but only lifting and counting calories for 4-5 months

>>38813622
>tfw perscribed androgel
Jesus /fit/ when you say shit like this it really makes me fear that my life will never improve or reach normal happiness levels. Eating a bullet sounds better every day.

>>38814599
>.gov
You lost me right there.

>>38815651
Lol it can work but it's really iffy. Absorption is iffy

Also it's dangerous if you're around kids, women or pets.

>>38809708
Eat a lot of protein/meat, get good sleep, workout harder/more than you are currently, have sex/fap
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
Do all that and you'll increase testosterone naturally and won't need extraneous test

>>38815080
Bump for answers

>>38812151
Right, but what causes your low testosterone? Disease? Then they will be more focused on finding and curing the disease rather than giving your TRT.
Genes? Then you don't need TRT.

Young people don't get testosterone prescribed just for having low testosterone.

>>38816881
Wow thanks bro, amazing advice now my clinically low test will increase by 3%